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Hey guys I've read some posts, reviews and watched some video samples of the Amaze and from what I can tell..it's true, the audio recording on this phone is horrible.
I wanted to ask if anyone from this forum could compare it to the MT4G?
That's the phone I am currently using now and want to know how does it measure up to the MT4G's audio recording when shooting video.
I ask because I record a lot of videos with my MT4G and it's important that the audio quality on the Amaze isn't less than my phone.
1080p would be awesome to have (mine has 720p) but I don't want to sacrifice audio quality.
So with that being said, could anyone tell me from personal experience whether it's worse or better when compared to MT4G?
Thanks a lot.
I would ask if you are so concerned for professional reasons and then I realized a pro would use a real camera...
Not trying to be a prick or anything. Just curious.
What is with the concern of how well the audio is recorded off your phones camera?
Turboboxer said:
I would ask if you are so concerned for professional reasons and then I realized a pro would use a real camera...
Not trying to be a prick or anything. Just curious.
What is with the concern of how well the audio is recorded off your phones camera?
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Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
nguyendqh said:
Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
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If you want good audio quality on a phone camcorder, you're not going to have any luck with HTC, put simply. The Amaze is a fantastic phone and video quality is among the best out there, but audio has never been HTCs strong point. If you're looking for great audio, I'd suggest looking into a Motorola device, though T-Mobile really doesnt support Moto anymore it seems. If you do go with Motorola, just know that video quality will not be the best on most, at least from what I've seen. The Razr looks solid on both fronts. Then there's the iPhone 4S, which undoubtedly has the best of both worlds. Either way, I'll stick with the Amaze. I love it in every way.
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nguyendqh said:
Because I don't own a point and shoot camera so I rely on my phone to do all the recording.
I have two kids, 5 and 4, and I record them all day, everyday.
So yeah I just don't want to sacrifice the audio quality for better video quality.
Cause if you have kids that young you should know the audio is the most important part!! They say some of the craziest things. Lol.
Anyway, thanks for asking though. I don't mind explaining. Do you have any thoughts here?
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AWESOME!!!! Way better answer than anything I could think of. I definitely see where you are coming from. Audio would be very important.
Not that I have taken a lot of video with mine yet but I have to say it does not sound any better/worse than my iPhone's ever did. Video is a ****load better though
Turboboxer said:
AWESOME!!!! Way better answer than anything I could think of. I definitely see where you are coming from. Audio would be very important.
Not that I have taken a lot of video with mine yet but I have to say it does not sound any better/worse than my iPhone's ever did. Video is a ****load better though
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So it's not like a horrible difference yeah? Well that's good.
I mean my biggest thing was whether it'll be worse than my current phone.
myTouch 4G.
That's really what I'm trying to get at.
I don't have a problem with my phone's current audio recording.
I just don't want to be downgrading. =P
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If you want good audio quality on a phone camcorder, you're not going to have any luck with HTC, put simply. The Amaze is a fantastic phone and video quality is among the best out there, but audio has never been HTCs strong point. If you're looking for great audio, I'd suggest looking into a Motorola device, though T-Mobile really doesnt support Moto anymore it seems. If you do go with Motorola, just know that video quality will not be the best on most, at least from what I've seen. The Razr looks solid on both fronts. Then there's the iPhone 4S, which undoubtedly has the best of both worlds. Either way, I'll stick with the Amaze. I love it in every way.
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I can understand what you're saying, but my thing was just whether it's an audio downgrade from my current phone, the HTC myTouch 4G.
That's all. But thank you for the suggestions and yeah I'm not a big fan of Moto phones either.
Thank you.
What about Music quality?
How is the audio quality for music and video? I use my phone as mp3 player.
saulcho009 said:
How is the audio quality for music and video? I use my phone as mp3 player.
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The audio quality is very good. But not stellar. Much depends on the source. If you use badly compressed mp3 files and cheap earbuds don't expect much. The phone can play .flac files if you install a 3rd party player like PowerAMP. That combined with a good set of headphones (I'm using Klipsch, which are also very good but not stellar) then the audio quality is more than adequate.
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The audio quality is very good. But not stellar. Much depends on the source. If you use badly compressed mp3 files and cheap earbuds don't expect much. The phone can play .flac files if you install a 3rd party player like PowerAMP. That combined with a good set of headphones (I'm using Klipsch, which are also very good but not stellar) then the audio quality is more than adequate.
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I'm not that much of an audiophile but I do have good earbuds so I guess I should be set. Thanks
Why don't you take you're kids to a t-mobile and take some test videos too compare? Seems Luke that would be the easiest thing for you to do and you would not have to rely on any the opinion of someone else.
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As far as recording, the audio is just as good as my vibrant...take that as you may--I am not a huge video guy. Plus, once you record, you can edit the audio on your pc.
PowerAmp is the single, most important app for me...in the car, at work, everywhere, the output is amazing.
alexp162002 said:
Why don't you take you're kids to a t-mobile and take some test videos too compare? Seems Luke that would be the easiest thing for you to do and you would not have to rely on any the opinion of someone else.
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Sounds like a good idea there. Lol. I will probably do just that. Thanks.
Beats Audio
Do you know if Beats Audio will be in the Amaze anytime soon or in the dev posts?
audio seem ok to me...I had the SGS2 which only provides MONO audio, and audio quality seemed good . This phone provides mono and Stereo so I played around with it and when I put it on mono audio the sound quality is much better, but then again you get mono....So It might have something to do with the extra microphones trying to pick up extra sound and cutting out the background noise....Personally I feel the sound on the Amaze is much more clear with high treble, than the SGS2, is the only phone I can compare it to. sound on SGS2 was muffled a little. also the speakerphone on the back and front of the HTC device sound much less muffled than My SGS2, I have no experience with motrola or any other brank of phone.
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Do you know if Beats Audio will be in the Amaze anytime soon or in the dev posts?
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We already got a couple of roms that have Beats Audio Hack. Check them out
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We already got a couple of roms that have Beats Audio Hack. Check them out
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Ok Thanks...
nguyendqh said:
Sounds like a good idea there. Lol. I will probably do just that. Thanks.
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I installed a app from the marketplace called Volume+, it was less than 2 dollars. But you can go to the dev website and download it for free. It boost up the volume from the audio playing from the loudspeaker and headset. I don't know if it will boost the recorded incoming audio. To me I had the MT4G rooted with a sense 3.0 Rom and I already love this amaze. As long as your hand doesn't block the microphones on the phone it is fine. Plus for 15 dollars you can buy the adapter to hook up to your tv and watch the glorious 1080p via HDMI. Also my Amaze is all stock. Plus the reception and call quality is very good.
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keepzero said:
I installed a app from the marketplace called Volume+, it was less than 2 dollars. But you can go to the dev website and download it for free. It boost up the volume from the audio playing from the loudspeaker and headset. I don't know if it will boost the recorded incoming audio. To me I had the MT4G rooted with a sense 3.0 Rom and I already love this amaze. As long as your hand doesn't block the microphones on the phone it is fine. Plus for 15 dollars you can buy the adapter to hook up to your tv and watch the glorious 1080p via HDMI. Also my Amaze is all stock. Plus the reception and call quality is very good.
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This may seem odd but I found that, to me at least, it sounds better with the "stereo recording" off. That's how my MT4G videos sound.
Anyway, volume is not the problem here. It's sound quality.
I get the best recording with an app called rec forge, mono, wav and 22khz sample rate. The stereo recording does not improve the fidelity of the sound. I have yet to try an external Mic.
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So i have heard and saw that the audio through headphones on the lumia 800 has been hideous but the update was said to improve the quality. I was just wondering if anyone had any improvements ?
Someone said that syncing the songs through Zune makes the audio as good as any other device, can anyone confirm ?
If there are still problems, We should try to identify it; Codecs, The Jack (With it supporting TRRS, Could = problems), The Nokia player, Bit rate capping... If you have any other ideas on what it could be post them and i will add and maybe someone with the know how could look into it for us.
My opinion leans towards it being Codec and Player related, Maybe Zune optimizes/translates the music files into a format that the codec reads best, This being said i doubt Nokia would go to the trouble in using a specifically optimized codec versus the range of high quality lossless codecs available at no expense.
Does anyone know if the Lumia 800 plays .FLAC (one of the highest bit rates and quality music formats) ?
I use JVC HA-FX34 in ear headphones, I cant really say much about the earphone qulity side of problems but my Blackberry (Yeah i had one ) and my android tablet played 320Kbps Mp3's well, As far as my experience goes in producing bass these are up there, There is no song i haven't listened to where the bass hasn't been sufficient with these earphones. I Listen to alot of bass dependant songs too, Over 800 Drum and Bass and Dubstep songs between my two devices, That said when i get my Lumia (2 Days ) ill tell you if there really is something wrong with the bass after the update and to see if we can troubleshoot the remaining problems.
Audio quality seems fine to me. Rather average, but certainly not poor. I do hear some barely audible ticks through my headphones when nothing is playing, but haven't noticed them during playback. Some of the complaints about audio quality might be coming from those who dare to use the headphones supplied with the phone, as they are truly awful. The only real complaint I have is that button presses from my Sony headphones, which worked fine with my Titan, aren't recognized. Wonder if the music control / answer button works on any headphones other than the ones supplied.
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So i have heard and saw that the audio through headphones on the lumia 800 has been hideous but the update was said to improve the quality. I was just wondering if anyone had any improvements ?
Someone said that syncing the songs through Zune makes the audio as good as any other device, can anyone confirm ?
If there are still problems, We should try to identify it; Codecs, The Jack (With it supporting TRRS, Could = problems), The Nokia player, Bit rate capping... If you have any other ideas on what it could be post them and i will add and maybe someone with the know how could look into it for us.
My opinion leans towards it being Codec and Player related, Maybe Zune optimizes/translates the music files into a format that the codec reads best, This being said i doubt Nokia would go to the trouble in using a specifically optimized codec versus the range of high quality lossless codecs available at no expense.
Does anyone know if the Lumia 800 plays .FLAC (one of the highest bit rates and quality music formats) ?
I use JVC HA-FX34 in ear headphones, I cant really say much about the earphone qulity side of problems but my Blackberry (Yeah i had one ) and my android tablet played 320Kbps Mp3's well, As far as my experience goes in producing bass these are up there, There is no song i haven't listened to where the bass hasn't been sufficient with these earphones. I Listen to alot of bass dependant songs too, Over 800 Drum and Bass and Dubstep songs between my two devices, That said when i get my Lumia (2 Days ) ill tell you if there really is something wrong with the bass after the update and to see if we can troubleshoot the remaining problems.
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Personally I would never use my phone for listening to music. The problem with each and (nearly) every one of them is the DAC, which is generally cheaper and less efficient compared to the one that comes with dedicated devices (just with some actually, the Cirrus DAC of the 4S/latest gen Apple devices is quite crap). Also, if you're an audiophile WP7 is probably the worse choice ever since the OS doesn't support FLAC. Honestly that's not a big deal to me because I still have to find a phone sounding as good as any device with a Wolfson DAC. To my knowledge there isn't a way to troubleshoot hardware, which is the main issue here. This coupled with the limits of the OS (limited audio format support) should really make you think about getting serious and grab some good music player, like Cowon ones, or even Sandisk or Creative ones if you wanna go cheaper. The only drawback is that once you've tried some real good audio hardware you'll never be able to go back to the crappy quality of a phone.
Anyway if you really want to use your phone for your music (which I don't recommend) then you should really consider getting an Android, the hardware might be more or less the same **** but at least you can play every format and you have some almost decent EQ solutions. Just my 2 cents...
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Personally I would never use my phone for listening to music. The problem with each and (nearly) every one of them is the DAC, which is generally cheaper and less efficient compared to the one that comes with dedicated devices (just with some actually, the Cirrus DAC of the 4S/latest gen Apple devices is quite crap). Also, if you're an audiophile WP7 is probably the worse choice ever since the OS doesn't support FLAC. Honestly that's not a big deal to me because I still have to find a phone sounding as good as any device with a Wolfson DAC. To my knowledge there isn't a way to troubleshoot hardware, which is the main issue here. This coupled with the limits of the OS (limited audio format support) should really make you think about getting serious and grab some good music player, like Cowon ones, or even Sandisk or Creative ones if you wanna go cheaper. The only drawback is that once you've tried some real good audio hardware you'll never be able to go back to the crappy quality of a phone.
Anyway if you really want to use your phone for your music (which I don't recommend) then you should really consider getting an Android, the hardware might be more or less the same **** but at least you can play every format and you have some almost decent EQ solutions. Just my 2 cents...
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Never knew about DAC's, Did a little research on the Lumia's DAC and found that
It might, but most decent mobile DAC internally don't process above 600kbps or so (at least the zune HD does around there), though a bad studio also might use audio sources not upto the quality.
But I think there is noticeable noise with decent cans, even on a good audio source, at least with my ATH-M50s in a quiet area. Audio set to 5/30. It's noticeable every once in a while. Just a little bit of hissing after a song ends, and a little pop before the hissing stops. I'm using CD lossless rips (Zune converted to 256/320k) of Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, and Eminem CDs, for reference. If it was something like a recent Metallica CD, I'd blame it on the studio for sure .
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I bolded the relevant bits, Even at 600Kbps the audio should be more than decent, As for the Zune thing to the people who are complaining of ****e audio quality with the Nokia Music app, Make sure you have a 320Kbps .mp3 and have a listen i'd like some feedback please.
Back on topic, I'm 15 and you know how it is money is tight, Do you know of any stylish, cheap and good sounding audio players, Small and discreet would be a bonus, Nothing smaller than 4GB or a Micros SD slot would be nice too. £40/$63 Is probably the most i can afford.
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Never knew about DAC's, Did a little research and found that
I bolded the relevant bits, Even at 600Kbps the audio should be more than decent, As for the Zune thing to the people who are complaining of ****e audio quality with the Nokia Music app, Make sure you have a 320Kbps .mp3 and have a listen i'd like some feedback please.
Back on topic, I'm 15 and you know how it is money is tight, Do you know of any stylish, cheap and good sounding audio players, Small and discreet would be a bonus, Nothing smaller than 4GB or a Micros SD slot would be nice too. £40/$63 Is probably the most i can afford.
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A year ago I wanted to purge myself of Apple, so I sold my iPod and picked up an inexpensive Sony Walkman E Series for $65USD. I'm quite impressed with its size and performance.
Also, I would check your Zune settings before syncing music. By default Zune will compress anything above 192kbps down to save space on your device. Most of my collection is 256kbps or 320kbps mp3s so I unchecked that option.
Honestly I have to admit I've never tried CD rips on a WP7 device so I cannot tell if it's good or bad. I'll try that as soon as i get the phone. Anyway some issues with non-dedicated devices are e.g. the fact that generally they have some noise in the output due to the fact that they have a radio unit and a noisy cpu. I had a GS2 a while ago and that was really painful. Looking at the review on gsmarena it seems like the lumia has some problems with stereo crosstalk and tends to cut-off bass frequencies, so that may actually be a concern for someone listening to your kind of music I guess...
If you want a good player, both decent looking and powerful you may have alook at the Creative Zen X-Fi Style. Other options may be the Sandisk Sansa Clip+, with the same sound quality and half the price, but that's definitely not so fancy looking. Cowon devices are very good too, but some of them, especially the lower end ones have a pretty gimmicky interface and they're not exactly "hair-thin" or cool to look at, despite packing the best output quality and EQ (hardware based); anyway they also cost a bit more (around 100€), so they may not be your cup of tea. I have the C2 right now, it's rather plain and the interface is super-gimmicky and unituitive, but the the sound quality is worth it for me. It also has a very long lasting battery (almost 50 hrs) and has a microsd slot which is a pretty cool feature IMHO.
Even Nokia agree with the quality of the sound being poor, that's why they are updating it, anybody who believe that it ain't are just in denial, defending Nokia, god knows why, I hope they're getting paid for it. I hope the update solves it, would love if they added an equalizer.
sHaHiN786 said:
Even Nokia agree with the quality of the sound being poor, that's why they are updating it, anybody who believe that it ain't are just in denial, defending Nokia, god knows why, I hope they're getting paid for it. I hope the update solves it, would love if they added an equalizer.
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People who prefer lossless audio codecs and use $100+ headphones (aka audiophiles) might have that opinion, but not the average person. I'm no audiophile, but I am definitely more picky than the average person about sound quality. I can greatly appreciate the difference between low end headphones (the ones included with most devices or any that can be purchased for less than $40 generally) and even a mid-range pair ($40-$100). I have no problem with the Lumia 800. Sound quality isn't as good as my old Galaxy S that had a Wolfson DAC, but it's still acceptable and allows me to enjoy my music on the go. I definitely have no reason to defend Nokia. I haven't owned one since the days of dumbphones, I own three other high end phones, and I didn't even pay for my Lumia 800 as it was a gift.
Ricehead said:
So i have heard and saw that the audio through headphones on the lumia 800 has been hideous but the update was said to improve the quality. I was just wondering if anyone had any improvements ?
Someone said that syncing the songs through Zune makes the audio as good as any other device, can anyone confirm ?
If there are still problems, We should try to identify it; Codecs, The Jack (With it supporting TRRS, Could = problems), The Nokia player, Bit rate capping... If you have any other ideas on what it could be post them and i will add and maybe someone with the know how could look into it for us.
My opinion leans towards it being Codec and Player related, Maybe Zune optimizes/translates the music files into a format that the codec reads best, This being said i doubt Nokia would go to the trouble in using a specifically optimized codec versus the range of high quality lossless codecs available at no expense.
Does anyone know if the Lumia 800 plays .FLAC (one of the highest bit rates and quality music formats) ?
I use JVC HA-FX34 in ear headphones, I cant really say much about the earphone qulity side of problems but my Blackberry (Yeah i had one ) and my android tablet played 320Kbps Mp3's well, As far as my experience goes in producing bass these are up there, There is no song i haven't listened to where the bass hasn't been sufficient with these earphones. I Listen to alot of bass dependant songs too, Over 800 Drum and Bass and Dubstep songs between my two devices, That said when i get my Lumia (2 Days ) ill tell you if there really is something wrong with the bass after the update and to see if we can troubleshoot the remaining problems.
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The update for the audio and camera is coming soon by the way, no eta's so far.
sHaHiN786 said:
Even Nokia agree with the quality of the sound being poor, that's why they are updating it, anybody who believe that it ain't are just in denial, defending Nokia, god knows why, I hope they're getting paid for it. I hope the update solves it, would love if they added an equalizer.
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From what i can make out Nokia cant do anything to the firm/software to improve it, In my eyes they should make a revised version with as many bugs as possible fixed and offer a straight swap for your current Lumia.
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Also, I would check your Zune settings before syncing music. By default Zune will compress anything above 192kbps down to save space on your device. Most of my collection is 256kbps or 320kbps mp3s so I unchecked that option.
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Noted, +1, Thank you
vnvman said:
Honestly I have to admit I've never tried CD rips on a WP7 device so I cannot tell if it's good or bad. I'll try that as soon as i get the phone. Anyway some issues with non-dedicated devices are e.g. the fact that generally they have some noise in the output due to the fact that they have a radio unit and a noisy cpu. I had a GS2 a while ago and that was really painful. Looking at the review on gsmarena it seems like the lumia has some problems with stereo crosstalk and tends to cut-off bass frequencies, so that may actually be a concern for someone listening to your kind of music I guess...
If you want a good player, both decent looking and powerful you may have alook at the Creative Zen X-Fi Style. Other options may be the Sandisk Sansa Clip+, with the same sound quality and half the price, but that's definitely not so fancy looking. Cowon devices are very good too, but some of them, especially the lower end ones have a pretty gimmicky interface and they're not exactly "hair-thin" or cool to look at, despite packing the best output quality and EQ (hardware based); anyway they also cost a bit more (around 100€), so they may not be your cup of tea. I have the C2 right now, it's rather plain and the interface is super-gimmicky and unituitive, but the the sound quality is worth it for me. It also has a very long lasting battery (almost 50 hrs) and has a microsd slot which is a pretty cool feature IMHO.
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Might get the Sansa has some good features and is super cheap, +1 for the input.
Lumia is lacking of bass, it's ok with monster purity, but with my Creative EP630 it's almost poor quality
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The update for the audio and camera is coming soon by the way, no eta's so far.
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Looking forward to it
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People who prefer lossless audio codecs and use $100+ headphones (aka audiophiles) might have that opinion, but not the average person. I'm no audiophile, but I am definitely more picky than the average person about sound quality. I can greatly appreciate the difference between low end headphones (the ones included with most devices or any that can be purchased for less than $40 generally) and even a mid-range pair ($40-$100). I have no problem with the Lumia 800. Sound quality isn't as good as my old Galaxy S that had a Wolfson DAC, but it's still acceptable and allows me to enjoy my music on the go. I definitely have no reason to defend Nokia. I haven't owned one since the days of dumbphones, I own three other high end phones, and I didn't even pay for my Lumia 800 as it was a gift.
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Have you ever experienced such "problems" as described by other users before the update perhaps, or have you enjoyed it from the start.
As a random question to everyone, Do you know if Windows Phone 7.5 users will be able to update to WP8 or will there be a new range of phones.
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Have you ever experienced such "problems" as described by other users before the update perhaps, or have you enjoyed it from the start.
As a random question to everyone, Do you know if Windows Phone 7.5 users will be able to update to WP8 or will there be a new range of phones.
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It's my understanding (read it a while ago) that major Windows Phone software updates are supposed to be compatible two devices back.
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It's my understanding (read it a while ago) that major Windows Phone software updates are supposed to be compatible two devices back.
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Not so the HTC HD2 running 6.5 was not upgrade able to WP7, Attached is a screenshot of a question from the answers.microsoft site, No WP8 for WP7.5 makes me a sad bunny.
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Not so the HTC HD2 running 6.5 was not upgrade able to WP7, Attached is a screenshot of a question from the answers.microsoft site, No WP8 for WP7.5 makes me a sad bunny.
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I know it's semantical, but the HD2 is/was not Windows Phone. It's Windows Mobile... a completely different OS.
And... yes... the HD2 is fully capable of running Mango with ease. It's just cannot be officially updated to it.
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Have you ever experienced such "problems" as described by other users before the update perhaps, or have you enjoyed it from the start.
As a random question to everyone, Do you know if Windows Phone 7.5 users will be able to update to WP8 or will there be a new range of phones.
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I haven't received any firmware update, but I got the 8107 OS update the first time I plugged in my device so I never really used the phone on 7740 or whatever it was on previously.
I did try the headphones that came with the phone and audio quality with those was indeed awful, but that's something I expected and with my own headphones audio quality is fine (average for a modern smartphone).
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Have you ever experienced such "problems" as described by other users before the update perhaps, or have you enjoyed it from the start.
As a random question to everyone, Do you know if Windows Phone 7.5 users will be able to update to WP8 or will there be a new range of phones.
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Yes, it will, it has been confirmed that our handset will, can't find the link for it.
The link to confirm the audio issue is being dealt with: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2012...bout-lumia-800-battery-life-audio-and-camera/
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I know it's semantical, but the HD2 is/was not Windows Phone. It's Windows Mobile... a completely different OS.
And... yes... the HD2 is fully capable of running Mango with ease. It's just cannot be officially updated to it.
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So really im just a dumbass because i didnt even realise there was a difference and that the lumia will be more than likely be able to run Apollo
This may be a thread that makes more sense in headfi.org but since it's related to the SGSNote, might as well tell you guys know.
Reference thread (one of many): http://www.head-fi.org/t/555006/samsung-galaxy-s2-vs-iphone-4
The Samsung Galaxy S had an exceptional Digital to Audio Converter or DAC that was a pleasure for Audiophiles to use.
The iPhone family due to its ultra popularity has multiple external DACs that are audiophile quality and bypass the POS Apple gifted on the iPhone.
But the SGS2, Skyrocket, Note and variants of the SGS2 (family) have been bestowed with a sub par quality Yamaha DAC. Now, if you read the thread, you will see that through PowerAMP and other means, such a bypass through the usb to use with an AMP, it fixes the atrocious headphone socket, but source quality is still poor. No one has as of yet created and most likely will not create a product that is compatible with the SGS2 family to bypass the awful Yamaha's.
So, we're stuck with sub par quality audio... Great. This is the only aspect I regret of selling my iphone 4. I was buying the HRT Streamer II meant for the iPhone, an exceptionally priced dac that bypasses the iphones source component.
My all FLAC/ALAC library and Beyerdynamic DT990's are very angry. There goes my music listening on the go.
Wait for Voodoo sound.
And stop using Flac. 320k mp3 is more than enough. Flac is a placebo.
Anyway. 320k mp3s sound great on my ATH-AD700s
Maroon Mushroom said:
Wait for Voodoo sound.
And stop using Flac. 320k mp3 is more than enough. Flac is a placebo.
Anyway. 320k mp3s sound great on my ATH-AD700s
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I notice the difference on my External Dac , and I have a crappy Fiio E9. All my mixtapes are 320k mp3s.
I can't wait for Voodoo, it helped get through Samsung's awful deving around the dac, but the yahama it self is still awful.
Voodoo Sound isn't coming, the stuffs it does do not apply in our situation.
We might however be able to pull some better quality out of the YDA165, I did some research on that with the SR, but didn't take it anywhere.
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Voodoo Sound isn't coming, the stuffs it does do not apply in our situation.
We might however be able to pull some better quality out of the YDA165, I did some research on that with the SR, but didn't take it anywhere.
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I wonder if I could remove the surface mounted (I'm guessing) chip from the mobo and install something nice, like a burrbrown. too bad I don't know anything about software to set it up, or if it is even possible to pull this off.
Here's hoping someone tries though.
We probably won't even get Voodoo LOUDER since supercurio doesn't support Skyrocket and other Qualcomm flavors of the GS2.
I'm not an audiophile, but I still find the sound quality disappointing. I guess most people don't realize or pay enough attention to sound reproduction to make Samsung put a better DAC in their recent phones. I'm sure they save money using the Yamaha, but I'd definitely be willing to pay a little bit more for the Wolfson they had in their last generation of phones.
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We probably won't even get Voodoo LOUDER since supercurio doesn't support Skrocket and other Qualcomm flavors of the GS2.
I'm not an audiophile, but I still find the sound quality disappointing. I guess most people don't realize or pay enough attention to sound reproduction to make Samsung put a better DAC in their recent phones. I'm sure they save money using the Yamaha, but I'd definitely be willing to pay a little bit more for the Wolfson they had in their last generation of phones.
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couldn't agree more!
yeap i do agree that samsung is doing a bad.job on that
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yeap i do agree that samsung is doing a bad.job on that
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I agree... The last at&t phone with the good sound DAC chip and supported Voodoo sound was the Samsung Infuse. The skyrocket and note are a no go, at least for right now.
And I thought I expected a lot from a phone...
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
Unfortunately htc probably didn't spend the money on the audio hardware. Poweramp, volune+, dsp manager, and beats mods improve sound (depending who you ask). There are other apps but nothing that revolutionary.
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Juan685 said:
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
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You have two choices to get the best sound possible on your 3D:
1. Buy Poweramp
2. Install "Android Revolution HD" ROM and flash Beats on it.
As someone who owns a Zune HD, I understand exactly what you are talking about. It's audio quality is simply unmatched. I still carry mine around, it's small enough that it fits in that little "sub-pocket" that most jeans tend to have on the right pocket.
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Unfortunately htc probably didn't spend the money on the audio hardware. Poweramp, volune+, dsp manager, and beats mods improve sound (depending who you ask). There are other apps but nothing that revolutionary.
Couldn't we create something to imitate the same sound as that of the Zune, if Volume + can emulate Beats audio why couldn't we create something similar. Plus I think if can get Chad's kernel with the improved sound drivers I am sure it can surpass that quality and make it audiophile acceptable.
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You have two choices to get the best sound possible on your 3D:
1. Buy Poweramp
2. Install "Android Revolution HD" ROM and flash Beats on it.
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I think Ive done that in the past, I had Poweramp with beats enabled and Chad's kernel on top of that with the better drivers. It sounded great, even the htc's music app sounded better than with just stock Beats. However, Im still fiending for that Zune quality! When I had my Zune HD music was great and I could listen to it all day without any discomfort, even in loud places with cheap headphones. With Beats its cool too, but sometimes its better when you are in a quiet place.
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As someone who owns a Zune HD, I understand exactly what you are talking about. It's audio quality is simply unmatched. I still carry mine around, it's small enough that it fits in that little "sub-pocket" that most jeans tend to have on the right pocket.
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Yeah, I feel you. I have the Ubermusic app and it sounds somewhat better than any other music app but I cant remember if its quality is the same as a real zune hd.
This is one reason why I can't use this as my main phone. And HTC isn't the only manufacturer whose sound quality is like this. I really hope this changes
I think Bose should make HTC speakers and drivers
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I think Bose should make HTC speakers and drivers.
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So we could have an over-priced phone?
Let JBL or Shure handle it.
"Ain't got no highs, ain't got no lows...must be a pair of Bose."
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This is one reason why I can't use this as my main phone. And HTC isn't the only manufacturer whose sound quality is like this. I really hope this changes
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I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to sound quality, so just using a decent pair of earphones\earbuds doesn't give an htc phone good quality?
ZPlayer
I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
It's not free, but you shall try it. I can send the API or you'd know how to get it
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I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
It's not free, but you shall try it. I can send the API or you'd know how to get it
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It's not about the look of the app. It's the sound quality. The hardware inside the Zune HD gave it a truly wonderful sound (way better than all the iPods and the other MP3 players of the time) and the OP is looking for a way to fix that.
I still think we can fix this some way or another. I am not a developer but I am willing to learn to develop a service or app or maybe even just port the way the zune hd handles audio. Or someone else can do it who has the experience. I am thinking we could probably hack and tweak our audio chips just like we can overclock our cpus, couldn't we overclock it the same way? Moreover, I found out that the 2009 Ipod touch used a similar chip as the zune hd's. Yet, audio sounded different because maybe there is a software aspect that helps also. Also, the zune had a tegra processor plus a dedicated audio core, although I do not know if this is the same as Wolfson's.
Wikipedia has some specs if this can help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zunehd
Here is the audio chip the zune used according to Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/15/microsofts-zune-hd-already-cracked-open-and-photographed/2
http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/power_management/WM8352/
and this website has more information if anybody is interested:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Audio-DAC-chips-does-anyone-care-anymore
Couldn't we also replace our audio chips with this one:
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/cs4970xx_family.html
Does anybody know if the decoder, or whatever makes music sound good on the Zune HD, can be ported to our phones? Or be used to create a service like Beats or dsp manager to run in the background?
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I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to sound quality, so just using a decent pair of earphones\earbuds doesn't give an htc phone good quality?
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Yes and no. From what I understand, the quality starts at the sound file. If the sound or song is bad it will sound bad on cheap headphones and maybe even in expensive headphones, too. The next step would be probably the chosen media player, which will send the audio signals it gets from reading the sound file to the Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) to be "decoded" and played out through the jack by the headphones.
I do not know if this is 100 percent correct, but this is the way it seems. Correct me if I am wrong.
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I have never tried a zune, but I know that the App ZPLAYER looks exactly like zunes' UI and has a pretty good equalizer. I actually use this player more than any other, even though I got beats installed.
It's not free, but you shall try it. I can send the API or you'd know how to get it
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I already tried it, but it sounds more like google's stock music app, at least to me.
greeeeetttt
Juan685 said:
I do not know if any of you know how good the Zune HD's sound quality is, but I was wondering if it is possible to get the same kind of quality on our 3D. I know the quality depends on the DAC and circuity from what Ive read, but our phone's hardware is more recent and therefore I assume it has to have better parts than the Zune's. Would it be possible to create an app or a background service that can give the same quality?
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I have posted the same thread to seek a way to enhance the audio quality. Some guys gave me some advice that flash the chad`s kernel. Yes, the man who has been banned from XDA. I dont know the exactly the reason why his kernel will improve the audio quality but some guys who flashed his kernel did approved it worked. I still not tried it because I dont know the way to root & s-off my EVO 3D. You can find his kernel through infected rom .com(please google) If you try it, please post your experience. Thanks
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It's not about the look of the app. It's the sound quality. The hardware inside the Zune HD gave it a truly wonderful sound (way better than all the iPods and the other MP3 players of the time) and the OP is looking for a way to fix that.
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I see, I'm sorry then.
I'll go and give the Zune HD a listen asap!
Anywaay, Zplayer is a good app
Zune HD is the best media player I have had, and still rattling my civic trunk.
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I have posted the same thread to seek a way to enhance the audio quality. Some guys gave me some advice that flash the chad`s kernel. Yes, the man who has been banned from XDA. I dont know the exactly the reason why his kernel will improve the audio quality but some guys who flashed his kernel did approved it worked. I still not tried it because I dont know the way to root & s-off my EVO 3D. You can find his kernel through infected rom .com(please google) If you try it, please post your experience. Thanks
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My bad. I must had forgotten to reply back. The sound quality was good on his kernel, but it is still not like the Zune HD's.
have you tried v4a? ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
Read all the top 5-6 posts from the OP for instructions and understand them carefully before installing.
There are many services and equalizers that offer very different audio qualities....Never listened to a zune but there are many settings and presets that might help.
Here is list of some of the IR samples that can be used with V4A ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2216193
There are lots of people wondering whether to buy the Axon 7 or go for a competing phone with similar price point and features *cough op3T*. This usually ends up on different QnA threads asking for the same thing: is it worth buying? And the result is a myriad of answers with different, opposing views. So here are the facts. If a fact isn't too factual, feel free to comment about that.
So, let's cover the basics:
CAMERA: 20MP Samsung with OIS. Good at high lighting conditions. Films at [email protected] and supposedly [email protected] (Motorola Camera seems to be able to record at that speed). Rather bad at low light. Has improved quite a bit on Nougat anyways. I suggest you search for comparisons to draw your own conclusions. No idea about the front 8MP shooter, but I'd say it's not too good. Has RAW support. The camera app has its fair share of manual control sliders (I personally love the white balance slider, no "Cloudy" nonsense). Seems to have a high amount of postprocessing on the image though, so again, look at comparisons.
RAM: As of now I'm using less than 2GB, only XDA open, some apps like Whatsapp on the background. It's more than enough to drive anything, probably for the next couple of years or so. And usually people don't need 20 apps at the same time...
BATTERY: Your mileage may vary. There are lots of comments about it on the real life review thread, but it really depends on your usage. It's not spontaneously explosive, so that's a bonus
SCREEN: Samsung AMOLED 1440P panel. enables Daydream, which is good. No always-on support, possible to do through an app but you might have battery drain. One thing that is important to mention is that games work worse than on a 1080P screen. And not by a small margin. With root you can use wm size 1080x1920 to get more FPS on games, but you have to root.
NOTIF LIGHT: Not the end of the world, but ZTE decided to save some cents by using only red and green. so no blue for us...
SPEAKERS & SOUND: The speakers are really well mounted, they fire the sound at you and not the wall beside you. They are pretty good. Especially with Dolby Atmos. Pretty loud, but as someone said, a dollar store Bluetooth speaker will be louder than any phone's ½ cm²'s speakers.
The sound is really good when you use the AKM DAC. The problem with it is that it only works on some apps. For example the only player capable to use it that I know of is the totally BS stock music player. Supposedly the DAC works with every music player, but it's only at 48KHz at the moment (the stock app does [email protected]). Some say that the DAC is truncated to 16 bit of the 32 that it should support. And when you use the Snapdragon DAC the sound is different, but it's not bad anyways. Dolby Atmos helps on YouTube for example, and on movies, since it has the dynamic equalizer thingy you can adjust your headphones' output as you like. Also adds Surround Virtualizer which is awesome
CAPACITIVE BUTTONS: Best description: Too close together, lacking backlight. They're pretty doe They're reversible as well (back on the right, Recents on the left
BUILD: You may or may not like the design, that's your own taste. But the build quality is good. In theory the phone's screen should resist corner hits since the screen is separated from the borders. ZTE offers you one free screen change though, so as long as you can claim the warranty it won't be a problem. No water protection. It's only open on the headphone jack and the USB C. the speakers have small holes and a very thin cloth covering the hole.
FINGERPRINT SCANNER: It's a good placement. No wasted area on the front. Front mounted ones are more comfortable but you get used to it.
PERFORMANCE: Considering 1440P it's flawless. The SD820 chips are likely to be cheap binning processors though. They are still very nice
UI: Maybe too obtrusive on international version. Considering this is a flagship it should have some more updates. That's not necessarily good since they add a pair of things, fix one or two bugs and break another pair of things... (like Whatsapp and Play store). Everything gets fixed eventually. The update to N was fast. Too fast on the US version where they had a ton of bugs...
Consider custom ROMs too.
DEVELOPMENT: there's a fair share of ROMs for every version. Unlocking the device is a little risky and tedious though. TBH doing what we do here on the Axon is very limited by ZTE, they even removed fastboot on Nougat. But our cozy community fixed those things
SERVICEABILITY: Hopefully you won't need to... But be aware, it's really hard to find replacement parts. It's easier to get another broken Axon and "Frankenstein the parts that work" until you get something useable. Disassembling it is not hard and not risky. The only part which is hard to take out is the battery, but it can be extracted with care. ZTE offers a pretty massive warranty for phones other than the chinese one too.
So again: I'm probably not right on everything. Some things may be influenced by using this thing. But it's the best I could do, and it's definitely better than picking between the opinions of those who think that 1440p is useless and those who think that 1080p is uglier.
I have a question regarding the SD820. What do you mean when you say they are likely to be cheap binning processors?
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I have a question regarding the SD820. What do you mean when you say they are likely to be cheap binning processors?
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Overclocking the cpu could lead to errors.
But the whole reading process of the binning is not cleared right now. You have to check many things like your kernel and rom and just on a fresh reboot etc.
Finally it doesn't matter, because the overclocking abilities of the SD 820 are limited anyways.
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SPEAKERS & SOUND: The speakers are really well mounted, they fire the sound at you and not the wall beside you. They are pretty good. Especially with Dolby Atmos. Pretty loud, but as someone said, a dollar store Bluetooth speaker will be louder than any phone's ½ cm²'s speakers.
The sound is really good when you use the AKM DAC. The problem with it is that it only works on some apps. For example the only player capable to use it that I know of is the totally BS stock music player. Some say that the DAC is truncated to 16 bit of the 32 that it should support. And when you use the Snapdragon DAC it's not a day and night difference anyways. Dolby Atmos helps on YouTube for example, and on movies, since it has the dynamic equalizer thingy you can adjust your headphones' output as you like.
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I don't think it is true that only the stock player uses the DAC. In fact, I believe all players use the DAC.
I have confirmed this with VLC and PowerAmp. Switching between Standard and Super in Sound settings gives a notable improvement.
This is for the headphones of course.
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I don't think it is true that only the stock player uses the DAC. In fact, I believe all players use the DAC.
I have confirmed this with VLC and PowerAmp. Switching between Standard and Super in Sound settings gives a notable improvement.
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Using Poweramp on Android MM shows it using 192KHz on the Snapdragon DAC and on Android N it shows 48KHz on whatever DAC...
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I have a question regarding the SD820. What do you mean when you say they are likely to be cheap binning processors?
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Low binning quality means that the CPU is not able to achieve stability at lower voltages. This in turn results in bad overclocking capabilities. But these lower quality CPUs are cheaper and some asian OEMs buy those
I'm not sure if they're all bad quality. To be honest I don't even know what quality they are. But it's a 400 dollar phone, let's face it
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I think that's just an issue with poweramp interpreting the info from the DAC. On the forums for the alpha/beta builds, the dev seems to take requests for this kind of thing.
In any case, the sound is notably different when switching from Standard to Super in settings.
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Overclocking the cpu could lead to errors.
But the whole reading process of the binning is not cleared right now. You have to check many things like your kernel and rom and just on a fresh reboot etc.
Finally it doesn't matter, because the overclocking abilities of the SD 820 are limited anyways.
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I see, so overclocking the kernel makes the processor unstable with these SOC. I always wondered because on the HTC 10, you could overclock the SD820 higher than 2.26 ghz when the axon 7 is overclocked.
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I can see the value of overclocking in a none mobile device, but this is a cell phone which runs on a battery. The ideal situation would be max performance with minimal power consumption. It's a balancing act of sorts. I see no benefit in overclocking a cell phone, other than perhaps benchmark scores or bragging rights.
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I can see the value of overclocking in a none mobile device, but this is a cell phone which runs on a battery. The ideal situation would be max performance with minimal power consumption. It's a balancing act of sorts. I see no benefit in overclocking a cell phone, other than perhaps benchmark scores or bragging rights.
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I can understand that. I typically overclock the kernel if I need some extra juice for emulation, but there's only a small difference when I do so.
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gpz1100 said:
I can see the value of overclocking in a none mobile device, but this is a cell phone which runs on a battery. The ideal situation would be max performance with minimal power consumption. It's a balancing act of sorts. I see no benefit in overclocking a cell phone, other than perhaps benchmark scores or bragging rights.
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Lol no that's not the full picture.
Binning determines the minimum voltage at which the processor will be able to work without errors at a given frequency.
Voltage = Joule's Law = heat. If you're able to get the stock 2.15 GHz clock and lower the voltage you'll be able to run your CPU at less heat and it will throttle less. Also your battery consumption should be marginally less. And you have the option to overclock the cpu some.
So if you get a Slower processor it should come with more voltage than a Faster processor. They will run differently since the Slower processor will need to throttle down on heavy loads. Supposedly the difference is in the 200 mV i think.
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I think that's just an issue with poweramp interpreting the info from the DAC. On the forums for the alpha/beta builds, the dev seems to take requests for this kind of thing.
In any case, the sound is notably different when switching from Standard to Super in settings.
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I never tried switching to Standard, that's a good idea. I'll edit the OP later.
I'll see the forums, I actually have poweramp beta
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I never tried switching to Standard, that's a good idea. I'll edit the OP later.
I'll see the forums, I actually have poweramp beta
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Great. Let me know what you find. I am on the beta too and only briefly looked at the forum when I installed it, but saw a lot of requests concerning specific DACs.
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Great. Let me know what you find. I am on the beta too and only briefly looked at the forum when I installed it, but saw a lot of requests concerning specific DACs.
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I searched some about the Axon 7's support, and it might seem that the DAC worked on Marshmallow but the hi-res support is not even possible on Nougat, just like with a ton of other phones. I'm unsure whether the DAC is being used or not - there's this one guy that practically confirms that it is not used, but i'm unsure.
I think I'm going to cross out that line for now. It is true though, Standard sound has very different sound. Don't know whether it's only the DAC or also some software effects on top of that though. no way to be sure
I have thought of putting a thermometer against the DAC to test if it is working or not. But I hope I won't have to disassemble it again, it's the 3rd time already
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I searched some about the Axon 7's support, and it might seem that the DAC worked on Marshmallow but the hi-res support is not even possible on Nougat, just like with a ton of other phones. I'm unsure whether the DAC is being used or not - there's this one guy that practically confirms that it is not used, but i'm unsure.
I think I'm going to cross out that line for now. It is true though, Standard sound has very different sound. Don't know whether it's only the DAC or also some software effects on top of that though. no way to be sure
I have thought of putting a thermometer against the DAC to test if it is working or not. But I hope I won't have to disassemble it again, it's the 3rd time already
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You are completely right. I was just looking at that earlier and even posted the error on the PowerAmp forum (that hiRes mode doesn't kick-in). I was still on the 703 alpha build. I updated to the 704 where HiRes is in the Ouput settings menu, but it seems not to be supported (any change results in a pop-up message on the bottom of the screen saying tha it failed and fell back to OpenSL ES mode).
However, as you say as well, the sound is different when switching in the settings of the Axon 7. We're probably not getting (with PowerAmp at least) all we could with the combo. I unfortunately don't have the tech knowledge to see any further on this issue. Logs would be needed probably to see if the DAC is being used.
Since this is a thread about 'worth buying the Axon 7', I'm in the market for a new phone. My free Samsung J320A from AT&T lacks some features I want (stereo speakers, better screen) and because the apps I like, won't work properly with it. (No compass, no 802.1ac, etc.)
I really like the enhanced version, 6/128 GB RAM/ROM with Force Touch on the ZTE site (wish it was gray). And was hoping someone would talk me out of buying it and recommend something else with the same (or close to) features and price-point. Spending upwards of $700 - $900 for a 'flagship' phone is not for me.
Thanks.
I am inclined to disagree with assuming the Axon uses a slower binned chip. ZTE put this phone out to get their foot into the US market and the impression I get is they wanted to get away from the Chinese knockoff stereotype.
Since before I got interested in this phone I've been following their business news and they have been doing anything they can to smell like roses here.
Pauli Urethane said:
Since this is a thread about 'worth buying the Axon 7', I'm in the market for a new phone. My free Samsung J320A from AT&T lacks some features I want (stereo speakers, better screen) and because the apps I like, won't work properly with it. (No compass, no 802.1ac, etc.)
I really like the enhanced version, 6/128 GB RAM/ROM with Force Touch on the ZTE site (wish it was gray). And was hoping someone would talk me out of buying it and recommend something else with the same (or close to) features and price-point. Spending upwards of $700 - $900 for a 'flagship' phone is not for me.
Thanks.
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How much does it cost?? 6GB ram is totally unnecessary. 128 GB storage is a lot, but you also have SD card support as long as you don't use dual sim, and that's a plus. And the axon 7 is ~330 USD on Ebay on some places. I think you should go for the vanilla version
At any rate if you buy the enhanced version from china you can put it a skin, there are some good skins available. Can't recall the name though
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I am inclined to disagree with assuming the Axon uses a slower binned chip. ZTE put this phone out to get their foot into the US market and the impression I get is they wanted to get away from the Chinese knockoff stereotype.
Since before I got interested in this phone I've been following their business news and they have been doing anything they can to smell like roses here.
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I've been trying the OPPO way of seeing the binning, but it seems to be only for Krait CPUs