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Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
bird11 said:
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
gdrocks said:
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Well deleing them doesn't mean they aren't still there. I'd rather they not be there to begin with. But from your first point then yes that's all I really want it to do.
bird11 said:
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
bird11 said:
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
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I am pretty sure there's a way to just not get it to install the google apps. gdrocks mentioned it in this thread. Something to do with getting rid of the zip file which contains them.
Making calls, sending messages and using the internet is all I need.
PsiPhiDan said:
CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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gdrocks has said you can get rid of the google stuff by removing the google apps zip. I have also read this in other places.
I don't consider google products an advantage. As somebody who doesn't use google products, not even their search. It's not something I really want. Unfortunatly the market doesn't really offer much else. Apple or android. Android should be a better option considering I should be able to use something that doesn't compromise my privacy from the start.
Thank you for the recommendations.
Android is based with google just like ios with apple.....well use custom roms and delete useless system apps !!!
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
Should've Gotten a Windows/Blackberry phone if you wanted a smartphone that doesn't the Google stuff. D:
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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No, Cyanogenmod removes everything EXCEPT for the google stuff.
And we have CM10. Flash it if thats what you want
Get the blackberry or webos rom
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
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Simply put I'd like a device that has many of the same hardware features of the evo 4g lte while not having to worry about my privacy. I see android as an open source OS which if there was any ridiculous measure being taken by google or other companies it would be found quickly. Though you can't say the same for other apps which aren't open source. These may be from anybody, not specifically google.
I don't use google's products so their apps and integration don't appeal to me.
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
Android is pretty much Google.. if you want to remove everything Google.. buy a phone without Android..
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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Rxpert said:
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
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It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
PsiPhiDan said:
Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
Sorry, I misunderstood your point. I see what you meant now.
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bird11 said:
It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
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Actually being open source makes it easier for devs on xda to discover privacy issues not being fully disclosed. Look what treve discovered about HTC. That was huge and it was just some amateur dev who shook up every company who used keystroke data logging.
And google isn't bloat. That's just a bizarre statement. Your phone runs google software. Period. You really should get a different phone.
Non google roms? I don't mean to be a douche but you really should change the title of this thread if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing wrong with having privacy concerns but that statement makes you look completely clueless
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http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/9/25/3403928/samsung-touchwiz-reset-vulnerability
I saw this was a problem for the galaxy and wondered if anyone knows if the note could be reset by this too?
Edit...I searched the comments and found this:
******OMG this just worked on my Galaxy Note so I just ripped the battery out of it before it was able to reboot. It said " phone will reboot after factory reset!! If I put my battery back in will it continue the reset or should I be ok. Galaxy Note 1717R
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E_engineer said:
I saw this was a problem for the galaxy and wondered if anyone knows if the note could be reset by this too?
Edit...I searched the comments and found this:
******OMG this just worked on my Galaxy Note so I just ripped the battery out of it before it was able to reboot. It said " phone will reboot after factory reset!! If I put my battery back in will it continue the reset or should I be ok. Galaxy Note 1717R
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OUCH! That's a bit of an issue, I'd say... Thank heavens for Non-Touchwiz ROMs! =]
On a bit of a sidenote, it looks like the method used by that exploit uses similar formatting to standard service mode access commands built into the stock OS... I wonder if this method can launch other service mode functions? If so, that could be a bit scary... Especially if it happens to someone unaware of this sort of thing...
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OUCH! That's a bit of an issue, I'd say... Thank heavens for Non-Touchwiz ROMs! =]
On a bit of a sidenote, it looks like the method used by that exploit uses similar formatting to standard service mode access commands built into the stock OS... I wonder if this method can launch other service mode functions? If so, that could be a bit scary... Especially if it happens to someone unaware of this sort of thing...
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Yes , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905371
It's time to locate the exploit within the build and disable it .
Wow ...and I'm running a touchwiz rom ...
Saurom 2.3.6 is all ..but I'm sure it's still vulnerable ...g
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ng-exploit-it-was-already-fixed-in-an-update/
It would appear it is not just a Touchwiz issue. While not necessarily applicable to our phones, this has apparently been known for quite a while and has been fixed in JB and other incremental updates on other phones, so maybe the same can be done for us.
gregsarg said:
It's time to locate the exploit within the build and disable it .
Wow ...and I'm running a touchwiz rom ...
Saurom 2.3.6 is all ..but I'm sure it's still vulnerable ...g
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I agree. Sadly I had to leave the JB ROMS due to issues experienced. Came back to FJ ICS b5 due to it's completeness. But now I fear this exploit. I did the test run and the results were that I am vulnerable.
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Until a patch is released, use another dialer.
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Until a patch is released, use another dialer.
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The vulnerability test failed for me using exDailer so it is unclear to me of this is actually a fix.
It's not the dialer but done via HTML code through a browser.
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stock browser seems to be the most vulnerable....but others as well...g
gregsarg said:
It's time to locate the exploit within the build and disable it .
Wow ...and I'm running a touchwiz rom ...
Saurom 2.3.6 is all ..but I'm sure it's still vulnerable ...g
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stock browser seems to be the most vulnerable....but others as well...g
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Hi gregsarg, I'm running Saurom 2.3.6 - v7.1 too, and my Note's not directly vulnerable to the USSD exploit with GrooVe IP installed. To clarify somewhat, the stock touchwiz dialer is set to default, so the system should be vulnerable to a direct url attack. Nonetheless, when I test for the USSD exploit vulnerability with the stock browser, using a safe test like dylanreeveDOTcom/phone.php ***, the select dialer window pops up instead of the system initiating the touchwiz dialer like it normally would by default. This at least stops the exploit from being initiated unless the stock dialer's manually selected. Nevertheless, when I manually select the touchwiz dialer with dylanreeve's USSD Exploit Test url, the touchwiz dialer does show my IMEI, d'oh! This confirms that Saurom is vulnerable to the exploit without a third party dialer installed. Moreover, as you mentioned, the next step should be to test other browsers in order to see if the exploit can be stopped without the need for a third party dialer. On that note, have you found any browsers yet that prevent the USSD exploit?
*** If anyone would like to safely test for the exploit, just type dylanreeveDOTcom/phone.php with a "." instead of the "DOT" into your browser, and please post your findings, including your browser, dialer, & specific touchwiz based ROM build.
Best to all,
R
No concrete list at this point, however it is logical to assume that with so many browsers sharing the same engine, and simply skin changed ....that many browsers are affected .
The fact that the GB stock builds require an additional step to access the TW dialer, is at least a small safety net, unlike ICS and JB ..
These builds forward directly to the dialer, and execute the exploit.
I knew that GB was my favorite for a reason ....LOL
I know the development community is very aware of the issue, and we shouldn't have to wait long for a patch...or even a modified browser Apk to shield the exploit....
Meanwhile....Samsung is hard at work patching the issue on their end.
What I'm worried about, is the possibility that an official update will be pushed out, and to get it, we would need a return to stock option until our devs can patch around the problem ...g
What do you have to do for this bug i have ran the test and i am apparently vulnerable
Running flaps ics+fjmod, stock dialer/browser
The exploit is a crafted HTML code, that opens the stock touchwiz dial pad, and auto dials the hard reset code for samsung devices....(SGN, SGS, skyrocket ...pretty much all of the devices using a TW rom base )
It is indigenous to the touchwiz UI, and the touchwiz dialer in any current Samsung rom or it's variant.
The solution at the moment, was thought to be the use of a third party dialer, but the exploit will persist there also, but does require the user to select the dialer of choice, whether it be the stock pad , or a third party app.
Either way ...the exploit will trigger once the code runs, or the user selects a dialer option.
The result is, the device immediately wipes data, and will hard reset the contents.
Although the exploit does no permanent damage I.E. chips etcetera, it is certainly malicious in it's design and intent.
Nonetheless, its a bug that has no business in our affairs, and needs a permanent patch...g
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No concrete list at this point, however it is logical to assume that with so many browsers sharing the same engine, and simply skin changed ....that many browsers are affected .
The fact that the GB stock builds require an additional step to access the TW dialer, is at least a small safety net, unlike ICS and JB ..
These builds forward directly to the dialer, and execute the exploit.
I knew that GB was my favorite for a reason ....LOL
I know the development community is very aware of the issue, and we shouldn't have to wait long for a patch...or even a modified browser Apk to shield the exploit....
Meanwhile....Samsung is hard at work patching the issue on their end.
What I'm worried about, is the possibility that an official update will be pushed out, and to get it, we would need a return to stock option until our devs can patch around the problem ...g
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Thanks for thanks, heads up, & info.. Cheers! & cheers to DAGr8 for Saurom 2.3.6! Hehehe, it was the first ROM I loaded my Note, and even after testing my share of ICS & JB builds, it's still my daily driver - go to ROM, due to it's combination of stability, decent speed, built in line recording, and the ability to add in ad-hoc wifi support. Yikes... getting off topic.
As far as the USSD exploit goes, I'm not at all worried about having to revert to stock to patch or even the actual exploit hitting my Note, due to regular CWM backups, the extremely low odds of it actually happening, and faith in all the incredible developers. My concerns are mainly for the other xda members or anyone with an exploitable system, as I'm sure yours are too. Anyway, like you, I'm betting a patch will be available soon.
Best to all,
R
rhacy said:
Thanks for thanks, heads up, & info.. Cheers! & cheers to DAGr8 for Saurom 2.3.6! Hehehe, it was the first ROM I loaded my Note, and even after testing my share of ICS & JB builds, it's still my daily driver - go to ROM, due to it's combination of stability, decent speed, built in line recording, and the ability to add in ad-hoc wifi support. Yikes... getting off topic.
As far as the USSD exploit goes, I'm not at all worried about having to revert to stock to patch or even the actual exploit hitting my Note, due to regular CWM backups, the extremely low odds of it actually happening, and faith in all the incredible developers. My concerns are mainly for the other xda members or anyone with an exploitable system, as I'm sure yours are too. Anyway, like you, I'm betting a patch will be available soon.
Best to all,
R
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Agreed .....it will be fixed soon I'm sure ...
And you bring up an excellent point ...that is ...users must run regular backups for just such an occasion.
And I've seen countless users fail to backup anything at all..
And then are left starting over from scratch if something goes wrong like this bug.....g
gregsarg said:
Agreed .....it will be fixed soon I'm sure ...
And you bring up an excellent point ...that is ...users must run regular backups for just such an occasion.
And I've seen countless users fail to backup anything at all..
And then are left starting over from scratch if something goes wrong like this bug.....g
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Yes... completely agree... current backups are a must have, especially for any mission critical device, and everyone should backup on a regular basis regardless. Even if it's just to save the time and trouble of having to set up from scratch again. Heck, it's mandatory for me to have current completely cloned spare drives for my laptops etc..., and on as well as off device complete backups for smartphones etc... just in case some type of system failure, data loss, or data corruption occurs. Plus, as they say, time is money, and backups have saved myself as well as millions of others plenty of both in the long run.
Best to all,
R
Erik Thauvin recently released an app (available for free on Google Play) that stops the USSD code from automatically being dialed. The app is called noUSSD and is free.
I am not associated with the developer and am only passing along what I found in my search.
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ptgptg said:
Erik Thauvin recently released an app (available for free on Google Play) that stops the USSD code from automatically being dialed. The app is called noUSSD and is free.
I am not associated with the developer and am only passing along what I found in my search.
Thanks,
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There you have it folks .....the first of many fixes ...
Many thanks for posting ....g
While some of our roms have Google Now baked in, is there a way to update it, cuz the Play Store will not let us.
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up to the ROM developer to fix that
Google Now on ICS
Has anyone successfully gotten Google Now to work on ICS? I see posts about it here and there per the ROM threads but I have not been able to get tapped links to actually open in a browser.
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Has anyone successfully gotten Google Now to work on ICS? I see posts about it here and there per the ROM threads but I have not been able to get tapped links to actually open in a browser.
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Now was never intended to work in ICS, some dev's hacked the APK and got it to work, other's not so much... and updated to Google Services (mandatory for other apps) broke most implementations of it in ICS. I have not seen a general ICS hack for Google Now that is still functioning.
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Now was never intended to work in ICS, some dev's hacked the APK and got it to work, other's not so much... and updated to Google Services (mandatory for other apps) broke most implementations of it in ICS. I have not seen a general ICS hack for Google Now that is still functioning.
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I thought google now was supposed to just be a kit kat thing? Because that's the only time the launcher will work. Or the only time I've gotten it too.
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I thought google now was supposed to just be a kit kat thing? Because that's the only time the launcher will work. Or the only time I've gotten it too.
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True, for full integration KK and Launcher3 are required, but several devs hacked the APK way back in the early stages (Now has been around since JB 4.1 or 4.2 I think) to use it like an advanced Google search in ICS, problem is its integrated too heavily with Google Services, which either ICS didn't get or it broke then"old" Now that devs hacked.
Either way, Now was never supported in ICS officially and with the constant changes by Google, devs didn't keep it up and it became a broken relic on the few ICS ROMs that implemented it.
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Hey forum! Verizon note 2- touchwiz roms
I have played around with most of the touchwiz roms available, and the one thing that I actually use is the samsung account to sync my snotes with my note 8.0. VZW roms have the syncing disabled within the account(thanks vzw). I have been running Cleanrom ACE 4.7 for ever, as its the only ROM that has every feature I need (Sammy account, 5 minute setting for syncing exchange email). I did try to upgrade to Clean ACE 5.0, but the native email sync went to 15 minutes. No good, for me. Push tends to keep the phone awake and affects battery. Really, its the flasher in me that just wants to try new stuff, as there is so much good stuff to play with.
-Basically looking for International based roms that work on VZW, with Samsung account syncing capabilities and 5 minute sync in the native email setting.
-If not, the ability to ad the samsung account to a ROM that doesnt have it that works on VZW.
I feel that I am so close to finding the perfect "newer" rom. Every time I flash a new one, it is just missing one ingredient that I need. Its a vzw vs the world thing- and because of work I am stuck on vzw. Great coverage, just affects the fun with the phone!
Anybody know of a rom(besides clean 4.7) that can achieve what I am looking for?- thanks
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Hey forum! Verizon note 2- touchwiz roms
I have played around with most of the touchwiz roms available, and the one thing that I actually use is the samsung account to sync my snotes with my note 8.0. VZW roms have the syncing disabled within the account(thanks vzw). I have been running Cleanrom ACE 4.7 for ever, as its the only ROM that has every feature I need (Sammy account, 5 minute setting for syncing exchange email). I did try to upgrade to Clean ACE 5.0, but the native email sync went to 15 minutes. No good, for me. Push tends to keep the phone awake and affects battery. Really, its the flasher in me that just wants to try new stuff, as there is so much good stuff to play with.
-Basically looking for International based roms that work on VZW, with Samsung account syncing capabilities and 5 minute sync in the native email setting.
-If not, the ability to ad the samsung account to a ROM that doesnt have it that works on VZW.
I feel that I am so close to finding the perfect "newer" rom. Every time I flash a new one, it is just missing one ingredient that I need. Its a vzw vs the world thing- and because of work I am stuck on vzw. Great coverage, just affects the fun with the phone!
Anybody know of a rom(besides clean 4.7) that can achieve what I am looking for?- thanks
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hi. I have the exact same problem but im on i9100 I want to use custom roms but they don't have samsung account option. some roms even include samsung link app but its useless without being able to add the samsung account. you will receive an error that it cant find the Samsung account. Please somebody must know how to do this. I understand that its because that part of Samsung software is proprietary and therefore any custom rom cant include it but surely i can do it for myself?
Can you push the APK's manually from ROMs that have them? Idk if it doesn't work, most of the time I hear people try to get rid of samsung rather than inject it, lol.
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Can you push the APK's manually from ROMs that have them? Idk if it doesn't work, most of the time I hear people try to get rid of samsung rather than inject it, lol.
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I figured that would be the way about it but what packages. who knows? ... and yes I feel a deep sense of irony in the fact that im actually seeking out Samsung foulness
indeed I think the only reason im interested is because I can't have it
I don't know. Make a nandroid, wipe rom, install rom with Samsung apps, use tb, find all Samsung apps, back up those, wipe system, restore nandroid, and restore tb.
Otherwise just find a rom that has it, download, change it to a zip extension, extract Samsung files, push apk
wow. it was litterally as simple as googling samsungservice.apk
I used one from 4shared as I have a 4shared account. the app updated on first launch and works as expected.
yodaco said:
wow. it was litterally as simple as googling samsungservice.apk
I used one from 4shared as I have a 4shared account. the app updated on first launch and works as expected.
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That's excellent. Nice work! Did it ad all the Samsung apps, and sync for snote? I know I actually added aosp mail to satisfy my then needed, mail sync settings thru exchange. My company now went to Google apps, and I moved up to the note3 which vzw didn't disable snote sync. Which is a surprise!
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I think this thread may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-tutorial-samsung-milk-music-samsung-t2704314
Glad you got it fixed, I need to do that on mine.
yodaco said:
wow. it was litterally as simple as googling samsungservice.apk
I used one from 4shared as I have a 4shared account. the app updated on first launch and works as expected.
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yup:good:
Before anyone says it- yes I have searched. I've read the threads about root and 6.0. I know there is *currently* nothing, but some Vietnamese guy or guys are rumored to be releasing something soonish.
I'm wondering if it's possible to flash Lollipop back so I can root that. I read one thread saying I can't, but I don't know how current that was. This is a pretty big deal for me because Titanium Backup is the only way I've found to backup Google Authenticator, which I need for like 10 services (including work). I can't send the old phone back until I have Authenticator setup on the new phone, and I can't do that without root.
So...am I stuck?
If you're already on Marshmallow, you cannot flash back to Lollipop. Your only recourse is to wait until there's native Marshmallow root. It's been said about 300 times here already.
For the future, switch to Authy, it backs up all your 2-factor accounts to a password-protected cloud backup, so when you set it up on a new device, you just enter your phone number and backup password and you're good to go.
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If you're already on Marshmallow, you cannot flash back to Lollipop. Your only recourse is to wait until there's native Marshmallow root. It's been said about 300 times here already.
For the future, switch to Authy, it backs up all your 2-factor accounts to a password-protected cloud backup, so when you set it up on a new device, you just enter your phone number and backup password and you're good to go.
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I was afraid of that Thanks.
Authy sounds convenient, but for anything requiring real security (like 2 factor auth) I don't trust anything "in the cloud", no matter how secure they say it is. But that's always the trade-off - convenience vs. security.
Thanks agian.
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I was afraid of that Thanks.
Authy sounds convenient, but for anything requiring real security (like 2 factor auth) I don't trust anything "in the cloud", no matter how secure they say it is. But that's always the trade-off - convenience vs. security.
Thanks agian.
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To play devil's advocate, you simply cannot know if Google Authenticator does not send any data back to Google.
siraltus said:
To play devil's advocate, you simply cannot know if Google Authenticator does not send any data back to Google.
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Well, I can know, if I turn on traffic sniffing while using the app from home. But I get your point. My concern is more that everyone is jumping on the "cloud" bandwagon without necessarily knowing how to do it right. Just because something is password protected doesn't mean it's secure. I trust Google to be secure a whole lot more than I trust a company I've only just heard of.
timekillerj said:
Well, I can know, if I turn on traffic sniffing while using the app from home. But I get your point. My concern is more that everyone is jumping on the "cloud" bandwagon without necessarily knowing how to do it right. Just because something is password protected doesn't mean it's secure. I trust Google to be secure a whole lot more than I trust a company I've only just heard of.
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How will you know for sure? What if Google Authenticator communicates via a common Google framework or service that all other Google apps use?
Good news for you! Tungkick has come up with a tot for rooting 6.0. Check out this thread. I think it might be what you're looking for... (what we've all been waiting for!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3382631
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