Question.
I just came from mean ics and loved it and now I'm mean bean and absolutely love this too. (And thank you fit sure) Will any of the options from the folder (4x5, OC, or more) work in mean bean? If not is an OC or roxie coming? And if I'm late to that party can anyone tell me how and where?
You all rock! Thanks
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The old ones will likely not work, but you're welcome to try. You'll likely bootloop, if you're not sure how to fix a bootloop I wouldn't venture that way. All the mods will come, but they have to be ported to the new base. Relax and give the devs some time, it's only been two days.
Trust me, I'm patient.. I can wait for a while if needed. And since these smart people (unlike me) that can do things like this so well I was just curious...
For avoiding bootloop I'm not sure at if that's what I'll get but I'll try later when I get home since I don't want to screw up my phone while at work.. Especially how restricted my internet sites are..
Thanks for the quick and informative response, I never am disappointed !
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I know for oc there is a new kernel you can try out. Its from: ElementalX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075542
Sounds good
involuntaryqool said:
I know for oc there is a new kernel you can try out. Its from: ElementalX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2075542
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Ill have to try this out... im not great at it but im always trying new things so hopefully it will be ok....
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wolfclan68 said:
The old ones will likely not work, but you're welcome to try. You'll likely bootloop, if you're not sure how to fix a bootloop I wouldn't venture that way. All the mods will come, but they have to be ported to the new base. Relax and give the devs some time, it's only been two days.
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I have realized that a ton of my adjustments i would like to make I need to be S-off and thought i had it but when i go into recovery it says s-on and my radio i guess is out dated so I have to work on this first... thanks, anyone know how i accomplish this without bricking my phone? the funny thing is I am running the latest MeanBean and works great but I am sure if i update my radio it will get better signal and service, correct me if im wrong but thats what it will do?
rjphllps7 said:
I have realized that a ton of my adjustments i would like to make I need to be S-off and thought i had it but when i go into recovery it says s-on and my radio i guess is out dated so I have to work on this first... thanks, anyone know how i accomplish this without bricking my phone? the funny thing is I am running the latest MeanBean and works great but I am sure if i update my radio it will get better signal and service, correct me if im wrong but thats what it will do?
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what hboot are u? did u take the new jelly bean OTA?
phone info
evo401 said:
what hboot are u? did u take the new jelly bean OTA?
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When I go into my bootloader
JEWEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT- 1.12.0000
RADIO- 1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
Currently I am on the latest MEANBEAN Rom and has been working for the most part pretty damn good, few tweaks that are finicky but that happens.
I just started reading the entire thread and realized that i was no where near updated as I should be
As of the Jelly bean update no, I have been with Mean for a long time, prolly since I first rooted it and then I just went from the ICS to JB MEANrom once I noticed it was up.
DirtyRacun is pretty painless if you follow the instructions to the letter I helped someone a couple weeks ago over gtalk get S-OFF using DR
rjphllps7 said:
When I go into my bootloader
JEWEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT- 1.12.0000
RADIO- 1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
Currently I am on the latest MEANBEAN Rom and has been working for the most part pretty damn good, few tweaks that are finicky but that happens.
I just started reading the entire thread and realized that i was no where near updated as I should be
As of the Jelly bean update no, I have been with Mean for a long time, prolly since I first rooted it and then I just went from the ICS to JB MEANrom once I noticed it was up.
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Sent you a PM
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bigdaddy619 said:
DirtyRacun is pretty painless if you follow the instructions to the letter I helped someone a couple weeks ago over gtalk get S-OFF using DR
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You sound like the perfect person to become friends with if/when I get the chance to screw this up...lol I will start researching and for sure get back to you... thank you so much
Dumb question what truly does updating the radio and hboot do for me since I am doing well so far with TWRP and MEANBEAN?
rjphllps7 said:
You sound like the perfect person to become friends with if/when I get the chance to screw this up...lol I will start researching and for sure get back to you... thank you so much
Dumb question what truly does updating the radio and hboot do for me since I am doing well so far with TWRP and MEANBEAN?
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You don't want to update the hboot just the radios/firmware if you decide to get S-OFF you can udate those pretty easy
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FinZ28 said:
Sent you a PM
Sent using my HTC EVO LTE and a magic wand
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^^^^^^^^^ Another good choice for help he ran LazyPanda while being on MeanBean
bigdaddy619 said:
You don't want to update the hboot just the radios/firmware if you decide to get S-OFF you can udate those pretty easy
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^^^^^^^^^ Another good choice for help he ran LazyPanda while being on MeanBean
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I will do this for sure within the next few days and read about it tonight... your a big help thanks!!!
bigdaddy619 said:
^^^^^^^^^ Another good choice for help he ran LazyPanda while being on MeanBean
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Actually I think I was still on Viper's deodexed JB ROM, but, nonetheless...
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I would suggest s-off dirty racoon style. Then flash your radios through bootloader. When the jb base came out I was s-on and decided it would be smart for me to future proof so I took the plunge. Follow the instructions for dirty racoon step by step and you should be okay. I've also read somewhere that s-on users who have taken the ota update to jb and then unlocked bootloader through htc have been having some issues getting radio and other firmware to stick after flashing through bootloader. It made sense to me to s-off. Pretty painless if you follow the directions. Hope this helps you out but to each his own.
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For every one that helped I want to say thank you to them officially because now I'm s-off and running radio 1.12.11.1119. Now that I got this accomplished is there anything else I should know or update? I saw pri or prl not sure but was told since I am in roam a lot for my job I should probably get the business prl? Anyways thanks again and if there is anything else please let me know!
You all rock:thumbup::thumbup:
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Hi guys.
So I am getting a Rezound on Monday and I plan on doing S-OFF overtop the official ICS OTA.
But I don't want to mess up the phone. Has anybody tried S-OFF with the 3.14.605.12 OTA?
Any replies are appreciated.
Best regards,
Sam
droidian1441 said:
Hi guys.
So I am getting a Rezound on Monday and I plan on doing S-OFF overtop the official ICS OTA.
But I don't want to mess up the phone. Has anybody tried S-OFF with the 3.14.605.12 OTA?
Any replies are appreciated.
Best regards,
Sam
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JuopunutBear s off is for the 3.14.605.5 leak, but that leak has the same radios as the ota.
I personally used the s off method while running 3.14.605.10 firmware with no problems so I don't see why the ota version wouldn't work
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droidian1441 said:
Hi guys.
So I am getting a Rezound on Monday and I plan on doing S-OFF overtop the official ICS OTA.
But I don't want to mess up the phone. Has anybody tried S-OFF with the 3.14.605.12 OTA?
Any replies are appreciated.
Best regards,
Sam
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You truly don't NEED s-off to get most of the roms to work while on the OTA firmware. Although, the phone will come with gingerbread. I say keep s-on/no root for like a week or 2 just so you can work out any kinks if you get a bad one. Also yes at this point, our current s-off procedure cannot really be patched up.
I think it should work with 3.14.605.12 also. I performed s-off being on 3.14.605.10
Snuzzo said:
Also yes at this point, our current s-off procedure cannot really be patched up.
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Do you mean you can't go back S-On? Because yes you can. There's a thread in the dev section about it; it's just a fastboot command ("fastboot writesecureflag 3" or something like that).
Like the others have said, you should be able to S-Off when on the OTA since it has the same radios as the .5 and .10.
Thank you for your replies guys. I appreciate it. Do any of you recommend stock or an ICS rom to flash? I haven't had a HTC since I had a OG Droid Incredible (awesome device) so Ive been out of the loop for a while now. Lol.
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Just did this last night. No problems.
carngeX said:
Do you mean you can't go back S-On? Because yes you can
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No. You misread, It will be Verizon's failure if they attempt to patch up the s-off wire trick. Sorry I give more info than what's needed. For the OTA & S-off is concerned. Yes the current procedures work with the OTA's firmware.
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No. You misread, It will be Verizon's failure if they attempt to patch up the s-off wire trick. Sorry I give more info than what's needed. For the OTA & S-off is concerned. Yes the current procedures work with the OTA's firmware.
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Oh, I get what you mean now. You mean the vulnerability used to gain S-Off cannot be patched, at the moment. Yeah, misread that initially, my bad.
Ok, sorry if this info is readily out there but after reading and reading I am just not sure what to do so I am going to ask what I hope is not a dumb question. I have tried to update my firmware using captain_throwback's instructions to flash at the bootloader with a file on the root of the SD card. It was named correctly and never gives me a successful indication. I do not have any issues with the phone but I am just trying to keep it updated as they come out without screwing my HBoot. Is there something that I have missed or am not seeing based on the info below?
I really appreciate any help, thanks!
My Phone:
HBoot 1.12.000
HTC Unlocked
TWRP 2.2.2
MeanRom 3.5
Base 1.05.11.0606
Build 2.13.651.1 CL99866
PRI 2.28.003
PRL 25006
BradBrugger said:
Ok, sorry if this info is readily out there but after reading and reading I am just not sure what to do so I am going to ask what I hope is not a dumb question. I have tried to update my firmware using captain_throwback's instructions to flash at the bootloader with a file on the root of the SD card. It was named correctly and never gives me a successful indication. I do not have any issues with the phone but I am just trying to keep it updated as they come out without screwing my HBoot. Is there something that I have missed or am not seeing based on the info below?
I really appreciate any help, thanks!
My Phone:
HBoot 1.12.000
HTC Unlocked
TWRP 2.2.2
MeanRom 3.5
Base 1.05.11.0606
Build 2.13.651.1 CL99866
PRI 2.28.003
PRL 25006
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You have to be S-OFF to flash through the bootloader. I highly suggest you run lazypanda to get S-OFF
Rxpert said:
You have to be S-OFF to flash through the bootloader. I highly suggest you run lazypanda to get S-OFF
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Ok, thanks! Is there a method you suggest? Reading the lazypanda thread it talks about a few different ways to get there, from reading it I wonder if one is better than the others.
BradBrugger said:
Ok, thanks! Is there a method you suggest? Reading the lazypanda thread it talks about a few different ways to get there, from reading it I wonder if one is better than the others.
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Post # 2 on lazy panda thread is what you need to follow.
Sent from my lair.
volk9029 said:
Post # 2 on lazy panda thread is what you need to follow.
Sent from my lair.
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Thanks for the quick reply! :good:
volk9029 said:
Post # 2 on lazy panda thread is what you need to follow.
Sent from my lair.
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Make sure to read through it 10 times and triple check that you have all of the necessary items before you begin. It would also be a good idea to have a USB drive with Ubuntu on it just in case.
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As the others have said, post #2 has everything you need. I ran the LazyPanda S-off tool last Friday and it worked perfectly. I was pretty nervous when I did it, but as long as you follow the directions you will be fine.
Thanks everyone!!!!
It worked just as advertised, and for the record I read the instructions 14 times (I can be a little ADD sometimes)
BradBrugger said:
Thanks everyone!!!!
It worked just as advertised, and for the record I read the instructions 14 times (I can be a little ADD sometimes)
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Welcome to S-OFF
May all your flashes be fruitful
Running lazy panda was probably the scariest thing I ever did to my phone, my heart was racing as I went to hit the enter button. Thankfully it worked flawlessly.
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durandetto said:
Running lazy panda was probably the scariest thing I ever did to my phone, my heart was racing as I went to hit the enter button. Thankfully it worked flawlessly.
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I am right there with you, while it was going through feeding panda and said "cant find device" I about crapped myself.
Same here, bricked, but got it back with Ubuntu. Anyone still on the first hboot don't realize what they got and s-off otherwise your wasting your phones potential. There is no excuse for having hboot 1.12 and being s-on anymore.
Swyped from my eVo
I am only 1/2 a noob cause I did this back in June - I rooted & installed CleanRom. I am 98% sure I did not go S-off, I am not sure what firmware I am on - Screenshot attached - hope it is helpful. The recovery software I have RA Revamped Build: RA-Vigor-v3.15, I thought I started with clockwork mod, not sure where this came from.
I would now like to try NILS Sense-less NeoMAX 2.0 [ICS De-Sensed 3.14.605.12]
Can someone tell me exactly what I need to do?
I appreciate the help.
Thanks,
T
I'm pretty sure this post qualifies you for full noob status.
I'd help you out but I'm out of the loop on rezound roms and such lately.
Anyway, free bump for you.
PM AshtonTS, he'll help you out.
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1heffer said:
I'm pretty sure this post qualifies you for full noob status.
I'd help you out but I'm out of the loop on rezound roms and such lately.
Anyway, free bump for you.
PM AshtonTS, he'll help you out.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Was hoping the fact that my phone was rooted was worth something . 3/4 noob maybe? :silly:
Thanks for the bump and will give ashtonTS a shout.
tgelston said:
I am only 1/2 a noob cause I did this back in June - I rooted & installed CleanRom. I am 98% sure I did not go S-off, I am not sure what firmware I am on - Screenshot attached - hope it is helpful. The recovery software I have RA Revamped Build: RA-Vigor-v3.15, I thought I started with clockwork mod, not sure where this came from.
I would now like to try NILS Sense-less NeoMAX 2.0 [ICS De-Sensed 3.14.605.12]
Can someone tell me exactly what I need to do?
I appreciate the help.
Thanks,
T
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Lol NeoMax isn't by Nils. It's by Neo.
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tgelston said:
I am only 1/2 a noob cause I did this back in June - I rooted & installed CleanRom. I am 98% sure I did not go S-off, I am not sure what firmware I am on - Screenshot attached - hope it is helpful. The recovery software I have RA Revamped Build: RA-Vigor-v3.15, I thought I started with clockwork mod, not sure where this came from.
I would now like to try NILS Sense-less NeoMAX 2.0 [ICS De-Sensed 3.14.605.12]
Can someone tell me exactly what I need to do?
I appreciate the help.
Thanks,
T
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What firmware are you on?
2.21 hboot is gingerbread
2.25 or newer is ics
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wlmeng11 said:
Lol NeoMax isn't by Nils. It's by Neo.
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What firmware are you on?
2.21 hboot is gingerbread
2.25 or newer is ics
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Ok I am 100% noob- -I can't find either of those numbers/firmware
About > Phone > Software information & More. . .
Screen Shots of those two screen attached.
Appreciate the help.
tgelston said:
Ok I am 100% noob- -I can't find either of those numbers/firmware
About > Phone > Software information & More. . .
Screen Shots of those two screen attached.
Appreciate the help.
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Reboot to bootloader
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tgelston said:
Ok I am 100% noob- -I can't find either of those numbers/firmware
About > Phone > Software information & More. . .
Screen Shots of those two screen attached.
Appreciate the help.
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Actually, from your baseband version, you're on gingerbread firmware.
So you can either flash NeoMax with an old firmware patch, or update to ics with a RUU.
I recommend updating to ics firmware.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW
Yes update to the latest ruu first. It will make things so much easier. Be aware that you need to get everything off you phone before you start the process, it will erase everything except for what is on the external sd card.
And yes this qualifies you as a full blown n00b. Sorry.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using xda premium
See what happened here? You got a taste when you first rooted. Now you're back for a little more. After you get neo up and running you're going to be all like"now that wasn't so bad, maybe ill check out a bamf rom" - I give it a month till you're a crack flasher
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tgelston said:
Ok I am 100% noob- -I can't find either of those numbers/firmware
About > Phone > Software information & More. . .
Screen Shots of those two screen attached.
Appreciate the help.
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yep, as stated by other memebers you are runing GB with ICS firmware patch. which is fine but your radios are out dated.
you have 2 options at this point.
option 1 is to update to the .12 ruu, the one before the global release. this will give you the ability to flash newer roms that are not built off the global release, which there are more options to flash. this method will keep you s-on and still enjoy all the wonderful roms out there.
option 2 is to update to the global ruu. this will give you the most up to date rom s, but the downside is if you want to go back to an earlier build of ICS like neo's non global rom you will need to s-off the device.
let me know what option you want and i can help you with a mini guide on updating.
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yep, as stated by other memebers you are runing GB with ICS firmware patch. which is fine but your radios are out dated.
you have 2 options at this point.
option 1 is to update to the .12 ruu, the one before the global release. this will give you the ability to flash newer roms that are not built off the global release, which there are more options to flash. this method will keep you s-on and still enjoy all the wonderful roms out there.
option 2 is to update to the global ruu. this will give you the most up to date rom s, but the downside is if you want to go back to an earlier build of ICS like neo's non global rom you will need to s-off the device.
let me know what option you want and i can help you with a mini guide on updating.
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I think 3.14 based roms still work on global firmware as long as you use the right kernel.
But nonetheless, it's always best to be on a rom matching your firmware.
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synisterwolf said:
yep, as stated by other memebers you are runing GB with ICS firmware patch. which is fine but your radios are out dated.
you have 2 options at this point.
option 1 is to update to the .12 ruu, the one before the global release. this will give you the ability to flash newer roms that are not built off the global release, which there are more options to flash. this method will keep you s-on and still enjoy all the wonderful roms out there.
option 2 is to update to the global ruu. this will give you the most up to date rom s, but the downside is if you want to go back to an earlier build of ICS like neo's non global rom you will need to s-off the device.
let me know what option you want and i can help you with a mini guide on updating.
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Man you guys rock!
What reason is there to stay s-on other than it is a bit trick to achieve s-off? I think everything becomes easier once I am s-off? So maybe I should just but the bullet (or the paperclip so to speak) and do it.
ASOP looks so interesting - when that is out and stable I most likely will want to try it - does that change what I should do in any way?
See what happened here? You got a taste when you first rooted. Now you're back for a little more. After you get neo up and running you're going to be all like"now that wasn't so bad, maybe ill check out a bamf rom" - I give it a month till you're a crack flasher
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I was additced on my OG droid - rom after rom, was so simple - all of this firmware and s-on/s-off stuff is a bit more tricky for this 98% noob.
EmerikL said:
Yes update to the latest ruu first. It will make things so much easier. Be aware that you need to get everything off you phone before you start the process, it will erase everything except for what is on the external sd card.
And yes this qualifies you as a full blown n00b. Sorry.
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Where do I get the latest ruu? The ones I found googling said you have to have a locked bootloader or be S-Off, neither of which I am.
And for my own info - what does RUU stand for?
Thanks,
T
tgelston said:
Where do I get the latest ruu? The ones I found googling said you have to have a locked bootloader or be S-Off, neither of which I am.
And for my own info - what does RUU stand for?
Thanks,
T
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You have to relock your bootloader.
Ruu stands for rum updater utility I think.
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Edit: rom not rum
Cheese with my WHINE
wlmeng11 said:
You have to relock your bootloader.
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Aww man -I have to do those annoying HTC steps again?
wlmeng11 said:
You have to relock your bootloader.
Ruu stands for rum updater utility I think.
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Rum? Lol
tgelston said:
Aww man -I have to do those annoying HTC steps again?
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You will once you do the ruu.
But to lock you just boot into hboot and do the fastboot command " fastboot oem lock “
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wlmeng11 said:
I think 3.14 based roms still work on global firmware as long as you use the right kernel.
But nonetheless, it's always best to be on a rom matching your firmware.
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This can be done. But its harder for s-on to do it because of the mainv crap.
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Just go S off. It's easy and then ores like flashing on the og. I came from the droid x. This is no different once you s off.
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howellcp said:
Just go S off. It's easy and then ores like flashing on the og. I came from the droid x. This is no different once you s off.
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Alright - you sold me but don't I have to flash something before I go S-off?
Under prereqs here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696394
Must be on a stock Gingerbread ROM OR The 3.14.605.5 ICS Leak <---- NO OTHER ICS LEAKS BUT THIS ONE!
Thanks,
T
tgelston said:
Alright - you sold me but don't I have to flash something before I go S-off?
Under prereqs here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696394
Must be on a stock Gingerbread ROM OR The 3.14.605.5 ICS Leak <---- NO OTHER ICS LEAKS BUT THIS ONE!
Thanks,
T
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When you s off, you have to be on a rom matching your firmware. So ics rom on gingerbread firmware is a no go.
Either flash a gingerbread rom, or update to ics firmware.
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tgelston said:
Alright - you sold me but don't I have to flash something before I go S-off?
Under prereqs here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696394
Must be on a stock Gingerbread ROM OR The 3.14.605.5 ICS Leak <---- NO OTHER ICS LEAKS BUT THIS ONE!
Thanks,
T
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its outdated. you should be able to s-off with any ics ruu out
still a bit confused about firmware part
synisterwolf said:
its outdated. you should be able to s-off with any ics ruu out
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Again thanks to all taking the time to help - it is appreciated.
So I need to flash an updated firmware, I am sorry to be dense but firmware and rom are not the same? When I google 3.14.605.10 firmware download I get links to the OTA update that would seem to be the official rom.
Once I get that figured out I can Run Juopunut's S-OFF And then install any rom I want. .
I think.
Thanks,
T
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
jcruiser89 said:
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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First of all you have missed a couple firmware updates, but since you are s-on you need to update using a RUU head to vipeRuu thread and follow the script instructions, then unlock again using htc dev, install twrp and then flash supersu and busy box, you will be s-on, unlocked and rooted on stock. Navigation doesn't work on some jelly bean roms on some phones, it just crashes, no fix as of today, use telenav, waze or scout. Good luck!
VipeRuu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
Root Guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038123
jcruiser89 said:
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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I would suggest using FacePalm to get your phone S-OFF
Then you can update your firmware/radios
There is no need to run an RUU unless you need to go back to stock reason being you don't really want to update your hboot
Any questions shoot me a PM
bigdaddy619 said:
I would suggest using FacePalm to get your phone S-OFF
Then you can update your firmware/radios
There is no need to run an RUU unless you need to go back to stock reason being you don't really want to update your hboot
Any questions shoot me a PM
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OK, Thanks for the suggestions guys, ill try this tonight.
Lol why is anyone still S-on I just don't get it.
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RobertBohannon said:
Lol why is anyone still S-on I just don't get it.
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Because you can root without s-off.
jcruiser89 said:
Because you can root without s-off.
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yes you can root with out s-off but why not S-off of the ability is out there? S-off gives you unbridled access to your system for better of worse. Though you may be S-off you don't have to use it, but if you need it and don't have it then your screwed. Then you have to go through the entire process all over again. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. This thread is a perfect example. He wants to upgrade his radio not impossible with s-on but far more difficult. When I updated my radio I just flashed the .zip file like a rom. No need to rename files place them In the root directory yada yada yada. Just my opinion.
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By the way I'm not bagging you over it. Simply saying the phone came out in June last year S-off has been available since July the same year. A year later there are three versions that do the same thing. Good on you for realizing s-off needed to be obtained. Once you are s-off there is nothing that will keep you from truly manipulating your phone any way you desire.
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RobertBohannon said:
yes you can root with out s-off but why not S-off of the ability is out there? S-off gives you unbridled access to your system for better of worse. Though you may be S-off you don't have to use it, but if you need it and don't have it then your screwed. Then you have to go through the entire process all over again. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. This thread is a perfect example. He wants to upgrade his radio not impossible with s-on but far more difficult. When I updated my radio I just flashed the .zip file like a rom. No need to rename files place them In the root directory yada yada yada. Just my opinion.
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By the way I'm not bagging you over it. Simply saying the phone came out in June last year S-off has been available since July the same year. A year later there are three versions that do the same thing. Good on you for realizing s-off needed to be obtained. Once you are s-off there is nothing that will keep you from truly manipulating your phone any way you desire.
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Yeah, i rooted the phone the day i got it, the only thing available at the time was s-on. Phone was/is running great, but i noticed i'm 4 updates behind and i have started seeing 4g in my area so i though it would be a good time to update the radios. Thanks for the suggestions guys, i got s-off now and going to try to update later.
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For those happy folks finally moving to 4.4.2 (Verizon and Sprint most recently) please keep in mind that we do NOT yet have an ruu for 4.4.2. If you are S-ON you will NOT be able to save yourself using any 4.3 ruu if you have updated your hboot. Keep in mind an hboot can be flashed without any other part of an update so make sure you know what you are doing and what you have done to your device.
Just a public service announcement to hopefully bring people back to reality before they go modding their new 4.4.2 goodness.
Can't 4.4's hboot replace itself with the RUU's hboot,
(like usual 2 pass RUU install)?
Or did you mean for S-ON devices?
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
Jiggity Janx said:
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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S-off should download. Might have to test lol
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Aren't the s-off'ed and unlocked devices able to use their respective RUU's to downgrade? Example like myself I wen't from 1.11.605.4 official to the new 2.16.605.2 that if I ran in to a problem I could do the 0P3PIMG.zip from SD method or do the fastboot oem rebootRUU with the vzw.t6.0P3PIMG_1.11.605.4.zip and I was under the impression we could downgrade or upgrade as we see fit so long as we are s-off??? Isn't that how it's always been? I thought s-on users only really had to be careful since they could only upgrade due to main version issue and also not having a KitKat RUU now available if they took the update while s-on.... Some clarity would be great! Honestly though I thought the way I just worded it is how it's always been with HTC devices...
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Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Murrda said:
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
Vinchenzop said:
Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
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Murrda said:
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
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Noob moment? Tired? Acid flashback? Your guess is as good as mine, but he went s-on and was able to regain s-off via WeakSauce temp-root and firewater s-off with newest OTA/firmware. So...success? lol
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
Vinchenzop said:
Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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Murrda said:
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null. If you're s-off, you could likely use the 4.3 RUU and downgrade your hboot (i did this yesterday during a brain lapse after taking/applying the update).
So if you're looking if being s-off allows you to downgrade your hboot, then the answer is yes.
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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And that's a second confirmations
LOL..... Thank you!!
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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OP and or title should be corrected so it is not misleading to some looking for answers... Maybe I'll make a thread for users as reference for all the variants
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
dottat said:
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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Vinchenzop said:
Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null.
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IMO if you can root it you can f it up. So s-on users do have some risk and currently there is no fix for them on 4.4.2 where there was a fix for them on 4.3 (encrypted ruu).
Good to see that soff users should be good to use a lower version ruu to downgrade if needed.
I have updated and downgraded to the stock version OS and hboot. But I'm also S Off. I had to use the decrypted RUU file though....
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Murrda said:
What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
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Lol...I meant let's not lose sight of the warning here. Noobs will be confused.
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