I just got my note back from Samsung this past Thursday. I just flashed it with Liquid Jelly Bean and the newest Gapps. It won't reboot but when I hook it up to my computer one drive in Windows Explorer goes on & off repeatedly. I do think it has life but there is no video, sound or vibrations? Can I handle this or will it need service again? Thank you in advance for any help given!
Personally I think you should man up and send it to Jtag. I assume since you sent it to Samsung, that you have one fraudulent claim already. Why would it be the fault of the manufacturer that you bricked your phone (twice)?
Take responsibility for your actions. And if not, please don't post about it.
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They had to replace a component in it last time. it may not been fully my fault. May be a weak in it.
But this time?
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I got it by email today. So, I thought it was up to date.
This is what mean
http://www.android.gs/install-liqui...ng-galaxy-note-i717-android-4-1-2-jelly-bean/
I clicked the download link in that article and it started downloading the d2ATT version which is the galaxy s3. Sounds to me like that article has some very wrong links that will brick a phone and require JTAG
I know. I wish I had noticed
So there is no question ... You take reasonability ... Send to jtag this time ... Learn your lesson ... Read better from now on. Right?
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Would it be safe to say, that 99% of device bricks are user error?
And the other 1% either bad files or hardware failure ?
I think so, and wholly agree that if you make a mistake and damage your device, then take responsibility and pay to repair the mistake.
Making another party (Samsung) pay for the mistake just drives up the cost of new devices for everyone.
This device is nearly a year old (ancient by device standards) yet the retail price is still $500.00.
Personally, I already paid for mine, and I really don't want to pay for device repairs that I didn't cause, due too people not doing the research they should have when I buy another one.
Now I get it, and I'm not a heartless azzhat, but if your gonna lie, don't advertise it here....g
I'll add one last thing .. If your going to screw around with a device that is this expensive, don't trust a link from an email. Do some research. Come to xda ... Ask questions if needed, read all you can, and read some more. How many junk emails did you delete today alone?
This is 99.9% your fault. Send it to Jtag ... Take your lumps. LEARN. Accept that it's not Samsung that failed. I for one will think more highly of you.
When you get your phone back ... Before anything else ... Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35779641
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Sell it and get a Jitterbug.
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Sell it and get a Jitterbug.
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In your worst nightmares. I'm buying a Note 2 as soon as I get the tax refund. Then I'll sell this one. It'll be working well by then.
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In your worst nightmares. I'm buying a Note 2 as soon as I get the tax refund. Then I'll sell this one. It'll be working well by then.
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I'll go ahead and warn Samsung and att your that coming.
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I'll go ahead and warn Samsung and att your that coming.
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Whatever turns you on. Just remember when you dig one grave you better dig another one. I can't see the problem of exercising my rights to warranty. Sorry y'all are all Scrooges. Why should it bother you how I do it. Whatever u chose to do wouldn't cause me to harass you.
But still in my Christian heart. I wish all of you a very blessed Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year!!!!
In your lying thieving Christian heart.
you are committing a crime. You void the warranty by just rooting it, you tired to install a custom os, and failed. The only right you're exercising is your right to commit fraud...again.
It's your fault your phone doesn't work now.
Why should we, the modding community as a whole start to jump through hoops to get access to our own devices because manufacturers and carriers want to lock down devices because people are stealing from them?
That's the main reason why New devices are so expensive and Verizon forces locked boot loaders... which has set a precedent, and if this continues I see other carriers following suit.
OK guys point well made.
OP,
You already used your warrenty on something that could have been a device defect or an issue caused by something you did that caused the part to fail. Either way this time was fully your doing. What you plan to do is a big problem and is not condoned by this site. Man up and get it fixed yourself.
Lets leave religion where it belongs and this site is not it.
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I soft bricked my droid razr by restoring a back up session and then it wouldnt get passed the "M" motorola logo. Any suggestions on what I should say if i take it to verizon to try to get it replaced since i preordered it. Also is there any way to fix it with back up files? Thanks for your help cause this sucks major nuts
I went to them and said that battery died , i plugged it in and went to sleep, when i got up the screen was like that. they took 1.5 hours trying to "fix" it but then did give me new phone
It's exactly what you should do when you brick an unrecoverable phone...
Anyway, this is the wrong section!
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I went to them and said that battery died , i plugged it in and went to sleep, when i got up the screen was like that. they took 1.5 hours trying to "fix" it but then did give me new phone
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And that's why companies have crap warranties. Because people like you keep taking advantage of them when,after breaking their phones because they have no idea WTF they're doing, they even don't have the balls to take responsibility for their mistakes and try to pass it off as someone else's fault.
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And that's why companies have crap warranties. Because people like you keep taking advantage of them when,after breaking their phones because they have no idea WTF they're doing, they even don't have the balls to take responsibility for their mistakes and try to pass it off as someone else's fault.
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Whatever dude, if the companies weren't such assholes and lock the bootloader i would have had to do it.
Lol, it's always someone else's fault, right? The big bad motorola must kicked down your door and made you buy their phone at gunpoint. Did they touch you in your naughty parts too?
Wow guys, relax. Hopefully a lesson has been learned: it's not safe to dink around right now w/o an sbf file.
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I went to them and said that battery died , i plugged it in and went to sleep, when i got up the screen was like that. they took 1.5 hours trying to "fix" it but then did give me new phone
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I see what you mean. Thank you greatly for the suggestion and help. And yes I know its the wrong section, my apologies site moderators and users
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Lol, it's always someone else's fault, right? The big bad motorola must kicked down your door and made you buy their phone at gunpoint. Did they touch you in your naughty parts too?
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Motorola left the bootloader unlocked but Verizon locked it. Stop being dumb on the internet because you can.
I'm still waiting for the kinks to be ironed out before I root
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And that's why companies have crap warranties. Because people like you keep taking advantage of them when,after breaking their phones because they have no idea WTF they're doing, they even don't have the balls to take responsibility for their mistakes and try to pass it off as someone else's fault.
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+1 tired of people exploiting the system.
This is why Motorola locks the bootloader.
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You guys don't realize how much a company makes off of you and furthermore how a company cares about you at all if that. The guys that keep doing the "right" thing go ahead and keep living life doing the "right" thing. Your are then 100X more likely to get ****ed and then they'll make more money off you good for them. Do you ever think about how they outsource all the US jobs to foreign countries for cheap labor and then sell to us 1000% more then what it cost them. So you must think that's right? Whatever I'm going to **** the big companies every chance I get and trust me it won't affect them.
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So you must think that's right? Whatever I'm going to **** the big companies every chance I get and trust me it won't affect them.
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your right it affects the cost of goods to us. they dont ever lose but instead pass it on to the consumer.
if you understood how manufacturing worked you wouldnt make statements like this.
I was planning on bring my SGS2 to the repair center, since its been giving me so much trouble lately, unfortunatley i dropped it in water before i could get there
As far as i can see there are 2 water indicators on the phone - on the phone itself to the right of the battery, and also one on the battery.
I actually used a Q-tip and bleach and both are no longer red, but are there any more anywhere else on the phone? And are there any other ways they will be able to tell it has water damage?
Are you really asking the forum for help in scamming AT&T for you? Take responsibility for yourself.
Wow....
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There are more than you can see. Just fess up and get another one
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Are you really asking the forum for help in scamming AT&T for you? Take responsibility for yourself.
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O god forbid someone scam ATT!!!!!!:crying: We should all be so careful to treat this honest and ethical company with nothing but respect. They get what they give after all.
Ive been paying for insurance for 2 or 3 years now, have never made a claim, and they raise the deductible for a claim to 200 dollars? Screw you ATT. The phone was faulty before it got water in it. Im saving someone else the trouble of getting this device refurbed, because you know ATT would just repackage this phone and give it to some poor SOB.
Whether AT&T is an evil company or not is not the issue. This is not the forum to be asking for help to scam them or anyone else.
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Whether AT&T is an evil company or not is not the issue. This is not the forum to be asking for help to scam them or anyone else.
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hmmmm so im guessing you have a problem with the threads entitled: how to put your phone back to stock for warranty replacement. You clearly voided the warranty when you rooted your phone, so by flashing back, you are scamming samsung and ATT.
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hmmmm so im guessing you have a problem with the threads entitled: how to put your phone back to stock for warranty replacement. You clearly voided the warranty when you rooted your phone, so by flashing back, you are scamming samsung and ATT.
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Hey genius, it's only a scam if by flashing a ROM you mess the phone up and then try to get AT$T to replace it. What you are trying to do is get AT$T to pay for your clumsiness. Fine, go right ahead and try, but trying to enlist people in here to be your accomplice in that scam is against the forum rules. This thread is destined to be closed.
Don't even try it. They check more than the indicators. The check corrosion on solder points etc......... they will know.
Reminds me of money over.......
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Hey genius, it's only a scam if by flashing a ROM you mess the phone up and then try to get AT$T to replace it. What you are trying to do is get AT$T to pay for your clumsiness. Fine, go right ahead and try, but trying to enlist people in here to be your accomplice in that scam is against the forum rules. This thread is destined to be closed.
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You voided warranty, end of story. By flashing back you are faking that the phone was never rooted.
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Don't even try it. They check more than the indicators. The check corrosion on solder points etc......... they will know.
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I dont know, I doubt they will even bother to check anything besides the obvious. They make so much money on these phones, the amount it would cost to pay someone to analyze what happened to a phone wouldnt pay off.
You don't deserve help. Scamming is not supported here, a mod will most likely shut this down...so inb4lock?
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hmmmm so im guessing you have a problem with the threads entitled: how to put your phone back to stock for warranty replacement. You clearly voided the warranty when you rooted your phone, so by flashing back, you are scamming samsung and ATT.
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There is a distinct and significant difference between returning software to stock to enable a user to return the phone for hardware defects that were not caused by the user (failed usb ports, power buttons, etc.) and trying to return a device that was physically damaged by careless use/abuse. The reason deductibles go up is because of this type of behavior.
I'm sorry don't mind me but you guys are so funny!!! Takecare...
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There is a distinct and significant difference between returning software to stock to enable a user to return the phone for hardware defects that were not caused by the user (failed usb ports, power buttons, etc.) and trying to return a device that was physically damaged by careless use/abuse. The reason deductibles go up is because of this type of behavior.
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like i said the phone was failing before it got water damaged. Disagree with you on the second reason. the deductible went up because of ATT's greed. I can outright buy this phone off contract for not much more than their deductible, plus what i pay every month - it doesnt make any sense.
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Reminds me of money over.......
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Hopefully he joins him...soon.
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Hopefully he joins him...soon.
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I'm actually surprised he hasn't tried defending the OP. It was pretty funny when he had his brother try to defend him in a thread exactly like this, trying to scam AT&T.
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I'm actually surprised he hasn't tried defending the OP. It was pretty funny when he had his brother try to defend him in a thread exactly like this, trying to scam AT&T.
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Yeah, that was funny. I love these threads simply because my Thanks go up about 20 points each time.:laugh:
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Yeah, that was funny. I love these threads simply because my Thanks go up about 20 points each time.:laugh:
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Haha thanks is all that counts here eh?
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Yeah, that was funny. I love these threads simply because my Thanks go up about 20 points each time.:laugh:
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Hi I purchsed a galaxy note from ebay and the screen is dead on it. The phone has warranty on it. I bought the device from the seller and he told he has purchased this device in June 2012. Since I purchased this device, can I call samsung service and say the screen is dead. No water damage or flash. It has stock ROM. I am thinking this is a mother board issue. Will I be able to say this device is owned by me and get a free replacement?Do I need to produce the bill or any other information?Will samsung ask any other information?
Just call Samsung and tell them you are the second owner. The warranty is on the phone, not the owner.
Please don't post anything else on xda about this if you bought the phone with the goal of tricking Samsung (fraud).
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Just call Samsung and tell them you are the second owner. The warranty is on the phone, not the owner.
Please don't post anything else on xda about this if you bought the phone with the goal of tricking Samsung (fraud).
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I don't want to do any fraud. But want to know if samsung asks for any sales receipt or comparable proof of sale showing the original date of purchase.
I think you're pretty safe claiming the warranty, because this model isn't a year old yet. Just call Samsung repair center. You can google that. Several members have said it was quick and painless.
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Just call Samsung and tell them you are the second owner. The warranty is on the phone, not the owner.
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Where the hell do you see anything about him trying to defraud anyone. Pull in the reins there cowboy!
I think the moderators can do a fine job of policing without you calling people criminals.
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I don't see where rangercaptain called anybody a criminal. His post was helpful and polite with good advice, unlike your post.
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Where the hell do you see anything about him trying to defraud anyone. Pull in the reins there cowboy!
I think the moderators can do a fine job of policing without you calling people criminals.
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I can see where it might sound like he was accusing people of fraud, but
to me I think his point is valid in that he was being helpful but making sure everything was on the up and up. I did read the OP in such a way that it sounds like it was purchased knowing the screen was bad because if I had got a note with a dead screen from eBay, assuming it was unknown to me when I purchased it, I'd probably take it up with the seller. But if the OP bought it full well knowing the screen was bad in the hopes in getting Samsung to fix it, it could seem a little fishy. Just my take on it.
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I don't see where rangercaptain called anybody a criminal. His post was helpful and polite with good advice, unlike your post.
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Agreed, ranger did what most of us would have done.
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TimOster said:
Where the hell do you see anything about him trying to defraud anyone. Pull in the reins there cowboy!
I think the moderators can do a fine job of policing without you calling people criminals.
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Wow. I've seen some people go off half cocked before, but you need to get a grip. You are so off base with your accusation about what Ranger said that it is laughable. Take a look at all of this posts, and I mean all of them. He is uniformly polite and helpful and he has orders of magnitude more posts than you do to demonstrate his helpfulness.
I would suggest that you rein it in cowboy and perhaps drink less coffee or whatever stimulant you drank before posting.
The OP PM'd me for more discussion, so I'm sure I didn't offend him.
Good work ranger ...as always...g
now the Note won't even turn on or go into download mode or do anything at all. I made a total noobie mistake and now the Note is bricked. I guess there's a first time for everything, never bricked a phone before in my life. I did some search and I hear there's a thingamajiggie called "Samsung debrick jig?" I guess I need to try it, got nothing to lose at this point. Any suggestions?:crying::crying:
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now the Note won't even turn on or go into download mode or do anything at all. I made a total noobie mistake and now the Note is bricked. I guess there's a first time for everything, never bricked a phone before in my life. I did some search and I hear there's a thingamajiggie called "Samsung debrick jig?" I guess I need to try it, got nothing to lose at this point. Any suggestions?:crying::crying:
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If your under warranty you could get ahold of Samsung and see about sending it in for repair. Turn around time is roughly 3 weeks. I doubt that a "jig" is going to work (from my previous experience.) You could send it out to get it JTAG repaired. Which is more probably what your thinking of. Either way your looking at between a couple days to a couple weeks to get it fixed.
If your sending it in to Samsung, you could tell them that you were installing an app, and then the phone turned off and wouldn't turn on or anything.
You need to pay up for the mistake and get jtag. It's going to cost you about 50 bucks. Sending it to Samsung is considered fraud since this is not a warranty issue but user error
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You need to pay up for the mistake and get jtag. It's going to cost you about 50 bucks. Sending it to Samsung is considered fraud since this is not a warranty issue but user error
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Agreed. And returning it for warranty should not even be suggested here on xda. Once rooted the warranty is void.
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www.mobiletechvideos.com website will be your solution. And fifty dollars.
I guess you ignored my advice to educate yourself. You're getting off cheap. Slow down.
thanks guys, I've ordered a repair service with Josh Groce at MTV as mentioned in posts above, paid $50 through Google Wallet (you can also pay through Paypal but they are evil), now I just need to find a postal office near me.
Just to make it clear, I never said I was going to return it to Samsung for warranty repair. I didn't know Sammy offered a 2-year warranty on their consumer mobile products, you learn new things everyday especially on XDA!!! (sarcasm)
It shows there are two kinds of people here: one group wants to really help people in need to the greatest extent including legal and possibly illegal means, the other group just wants to sit on their asses and go "I told you so, you should be more careful and do research first"
I did my basic research, including asking newb questions on xda. Based on what you guys said, I bought an i717 instead of the t-mobile version. Because I was carrying out a research, I had dozens of tabs on open on Firefox, and that's a contributing factor as to why I mistakenly flashed an international kernel on my at&t note.
Before you jump in, fingers waggin, saying useless things like "do search," please realize that an older device like the original note can have a long and sordid history of development. I was overwhelmed by the variety of "guides" and "howtos" and questions and answers when I first started reading about the Samsung Galaxy Note. Please be kind to semi-newbs like me, we are the silent majority here. (ranting)
One more rant before I go back to sleep (it's 6:25am here in rainy Southern California),
kernel developers should NOT be allowed to name their kernels "UNIVERSAL" I was suckered in to flash a "UNIVERSAL" kernel on my ATT Note I717. That UNIVERSAL kernel was only for International Note N7000.
I know, I should've known better. Well, a lesson learned, and as someone said above, it only cost $50.
If you are referring to me in your rant, I never even referred to you in my post. I pointed out that the posted suggestion above to return to Samsung for warranty was not only fraud .. But also against xda rules to be talking about. As for the post I agreed with ... If you've been reading around here lately you know there has been a rash of "help I've bricked my phone"threads lately. Some were due to a bad link to a rom outside xda. For some reason ... a lot of users here think that Samsung should replace under warranty for their mistakes. It's not the case. Simple fact is ... once you root the phone you have no warranty. That said, I believe that there is a grey area ... a know hardware failure ..I think it is fine to revert to stock to warranty.
I'm glad you've worked you issue out and wish you luck in the future. But instead of going on a rant to people who you may need help from in the future ... ... Just saying .. don't burn any bridges.
Have a good weekend
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In rereading ... I really don't think anyone was that harsh. Some of these have gotten quite ugly.
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Allright, got some needed sleep, got up and went to the post office to mail off my bricked Note to [email protected] in Texas. Priority mail to Texas from Southern Cal cost about $6 plus insurance cost $4, so all told about U$10 to mail my Note (sans batt, back cover, stylus, sim card and sdcard). According to the MobileTechVideo site, it will take about 4 business for Josh to repair it. So I'm looking at about 2 weeks before I can get mine back. Kinda wishing that I had sprung for express service for another $15-20.
I'm now regretting the rants I spewed out earlier. However, I believe I made a couple of valid observations. I am grateful to those who pointed out the jtag repair, specifically sending it for repair to mobiletechvideo. I know I can attempt the repair myself but for $50 it's well worth it for me to let a seasoned pro handle it.
One of my pet peeves is the "I am holier than you" attitude, you know the kind who goes around saying "I told you to research, make a backup nandroid, do md5 hash check on ALL your downloads, etc..." You know what, things have happened and now you're holding a brick in your hand due to whatever you did. No sense in kicking a man when he's down. How can you call it a help? And to those of you who clicked on the Thanks button to these kind of people, you know who you are, Fie on You!!!
To Bubbajoe,
Cool, I didn't mean to refer you or anyone else in my regrettable rants in my previous posts. I thought I needed to clarify that I never thought sending my bricked note to Samsung for warranty repair was an option. Thanks for pointing out that it would've constituted a fraud, had I done it. Having said that, now that the cat is out of the bag, I now know I have an option. I am sure other people who read this thread have now seen the option of sending it back to Samsung for repair under warranty. I don't want to judge people, what they do with their stuff is their private matter, I can only hope that you would do the right thing. I believe in karma, what goes around, comes around. If you gloat over other people's misfortune, your turn will come.
It seemed harsh to me. I was down and instead of helping me get up, some people were taunting and kicking me: "I told you so," "you didn't take my advice," "why didn't you read", etc, etc, etc... Do you call these advice "help" that deserved to be thanked???
From just reading the title your gonna need jtag. Its like $50-$60
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Allright, got some needed sleep, got up and went to the post office to mail off my bricked Note to [email protected] in Texas. Priority mail to Texas from Southern Cal cost about $6 plus insurance cost $4, so all told about U$10 to mail my Note (sans batt, back cover, stylus, sim card and sdcard). According to the MobileTechVideo site, it will take about 4 business for Josh to repair it. So I'm looking at about 2 weeks before I can get mine back. Kinda wishing that I had sprung for express service for another $15-20.
I'm now regretting the rants I spewed out earlier. However, I believe I made a couple of valid observations. I am grateful to those who pointed out the jtag repair, specifically sending it for repair to mobiletechvideo. I know I can attempt the repair myself but for $50 it's well worth it for me to let a seasoned pro handle it.
One of my pet peeves is the "I am holier than you" attitude, you know the kind who goes around saying "I told you to research, make a backup nandroid, do md5 hash check on ALL your downloads, etc..." You know what, things have happened and now you're holding a brick in your hand due to whatever you did. No sense in kicking a man when he's down. How can you call it a help? And to those of you who clicked on the Thanks button to these kind of people, you know who you are, Fie on You!!!
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Sir if your rant was directed at me I never said you were implying you were going to send it to samsung. I was only pointing out that that advice that someone else mentioned was not a good idea.
I am glad that you got in touch with mobiletechvideos to get it repaired. He has helped many people out with hard bricks around here. As for doing the repair yourself you need a riff box to do jtag and the cost of that is a lot more than what you ended up paying for Josh to do the service.
Hope to see you back up in running around here soon.
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Agreed. And returning it for warranty should not even be suggested here on xda. Once rooted the warranty is void.
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That statement bothers me considering they posted an article regarding rooting in July.
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/your-warranty-is-not-void-xda-tv/
You saying they should make a retraction?
He flashed a kernel for a completely different phone. You don't need root privileges to do that. So, no, this doesn't contradict the xda position.
Buy a new gasoline fueled car, then go and put diesel fuel in it and destroy the engine. No dealer will cover that error under a warranty. You pay for your mistake and learn to double check next time.
Why is this thread still running? The op has his issue handled. Now it's just turning into a debate thread.
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Why is this thread still running? The op has his issue handled. Now it's just turning into a debate thread.
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That's debatable
We've never had a debate thread.
Yeh....
We certainly don't need another heated thread.
Losing a great developer this week should be enough anger to tide us over don't you think ?
OP ....we have great people here, always doing their best to give back.
And once again, they "ALL" did ....IMHO ....
Bricking sucks, but thank goodness we have an out, unlike the old days where a guy just throws the phone in the trash and starts over.
Those guys down south do a fantastic job keeping us fixed up and going again.
It'll come back running like new...
Happy flashing ....g
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We've never had a debate thread.
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That statement bothers me considering they posted an article regarding rooting in July.
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/your-warranty-is-not-void-xda-tv/
You saying they should make a retraction?
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While I highly respect Adam's opinion .. If you look at the attached post, you can see the statement copied directly from the Samsung website. Adam may be right ... Maybe not... But since it's Samsung we would be dealing with .. I would say the statement I made holds true. I'm not willing to fight my way to the supreme court to find out. If you are .. Let me know how it turns out. Also if you can gain root privileges without modifying or altering the electric circuitry .. Let me know that as well. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36727175
As far as xda .. If the official opinion is that rooting doesn't void the warranty .. I have to wonder ... If we do have a rooted user .. Say with a hardware issue that wants to claim warranty .. why are we not seeing everyone post that it's no problem .. Just send it back rooted. We see responses on how to unroot to claim warranty. Why bother? Why aren't the mods closing these threads stating that the unrooting is not needed? Additionally if I'm denied warranty, I'd venture to say that xda would not replace my phone or help me hire an attorney to fright Samsung.
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Mods, please lock this thread, close it, or do whatever you have to do to stop people from posting to it anymore. It has degenerated into something that's so far removed from the original intent of the OP, namely me. The issue has been handled. No more replies should be accepted. Thank you!
So this is going to sound odd, but hear me out. I like many of you got the ME7 update. On sunday I tried rerooting and reflashing. Soft bricked my phone. Used ODIN to re-install ME7 firmware. All runs fine. In the midst of this however I panicked and called verizon for a replacement under warranty. I made the claim that "I unplugged my phone during the ME7 update" and that's how it bricked. If the phone they send me is MDK can I send my ME7 back? Should I "re-brick" my ME7 and send it back to them or just do a data wipe and re package it? Would they be able to tell?
Dolphlungegrin said:
So this is going to sound odd, but hear me out. I like many of you got the ME7 update. On sunday I tried rerooting and reflashing. Soft bricked my phone. Used ODIN to re-install ME7 firmware. All runs fine. In the midst of this however I panicked and called verizon for a replacement under warranty. I made the claim that "I unplugged my phone during the ME7 update" and that's how it bricked. If the phone they send me is MDK can I send my ME7 back? Should I "re-brick" my ME7 and send it back to them or just do a data wipe and re package it? Would they be able to tell?
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Be honest.
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Be honest.
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You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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Why not, that's exactly what you did after all...
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Why not, it's exactly what you did after all...
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True. . . but I'm not sure I want to pay the full price for the phone they sent me under warranty. I would rather send the replacement back and wait for the ME7 bootloader to be cracked.
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Be honest.
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Dolphlungegrin said:
You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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I mean if your device does not have any faults why are you getting a replacement? I understand you requested before you realized it is actually ok. You came here asking for advice on how to trick a company that is honoring a defective device that actually is not defective. So yeah send back your replacement or find a legit defect with your device. Sounds like an integrity issue to me.
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I mean if your device does not have any faults why are you getting a replacement? I understand you requested before you realized it is actually ok. You came here asking for advice on how to trick a company that is honoring a defective device that actually is not defective. So yeah send back your replacement or find a legit defect with your device. Sounds like an integrity issue to me.
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Alright the point is taken about being honest. You don't really need to make an underhanded comment about my character over something like this though.
I would tell them that you just fixed it with Odin..
I called them and said I fixed my phone. Sending the replacement back. Goodbye MDK=/.
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Alright the point is taken about being honest. You don't really need to make an underhanded comment about my character over something like this though.
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Why be underhanded about your character? Your title is how to trick Verizon? What this really is though is a hey look at me guys I commited fraud to replace a device that I knowingly and willingly violated my warranty with and had verizon send me a replacement device only to find out my original device wasnt broken after all. To add to the character comment even though you've fixed your device you're still contemplating continuing with the fraud by purposely bricking a device that you repaired...
I think this whole thread speaks volumes about your character or lack there of. You posted this on the internet. You screwed up the device. You fixed it. Own it.
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I called them and said I fixed my phone. Sending the replacement back. Goodbye MDK=/.
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The one thing I hate about the XDA forums is the rudeness of some people. It's completely up to the OP regarding his conscience in the matter. I will give you my opinion:
I have never read about anybody getting back charged for returning phone that was modded / rooted. Those of us that have been long time VZW customers have seen the decline of trust with them. I know it's too late for you to change course now but in the future you should have no regrets if you decide for another equipment swap. With the root / unlock bounty reaching towards $6K you can ask any of them how they feel. VZW sneaked in the so called OTA update with minor improvements overall; and completely locking down the phone.
It's up to you in the end but I wouldn't worry..... You would be the first casualty.
Edit: The title of your thread didn't help matters either
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The one thing I hate about the XDA forums is the rudeness of some people. It's completely up to the OP regarding his conscience in the matter. I will give you my opinion:
I have never read about anybody getting back charged for returning phone that was modded / rooted. Those of us that have been long time VZW customers have seen the decline of trust with them. I know it's too late for you to change course now but in the future you should have no regrets if you decide for another equipment swap. With the root / unlock bounty reaching towards $6K you can ask any of them how they feel. VZW sneaked in the so called OTA update with minor improvements overall; and completely locking down the phone.
It's up to you in the end but I wouldn't worry..... You would be the first casualty.
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I agree with you completely, it's on the person. The question was how do I trick verizon....so my answer was don't. If you don't want the feedback, don't ask. No rudeness was intended. I am fairly sure the lack of ownership on mistakes is frowned upon in the XDA community. Oh well, my opinion was to be honest. Enjoy your decision
Nothing rude was said to the op. The fact of the matter is that the very premise of this thread was to seek advice on warranty fraud, which is illegal.
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It probably wouldnt even matter if you sent back the "broke" one back fixed, they probably don't open each phone package to verify it functions, probably just check for water damage and cracks
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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It probably wouldnt even matter if you sent back the "broke" one back fixed, they probably don't open each phone package to verify it functions, probably just check for water damage and cracks
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The Verizon rep said something similar. He said they check for water damage, broken screen, etc.
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Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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Here's the deal, no one thinks you are a bad person. Strike me down, but verizon is not lacking integrity here. Never once was this device advertised as being unlocked or unlockable and they have never said they support modding. If this was a nexus that they locked the bootloader on then yes, problem. I said be honest, my point was this decison is an integrity one, not you lack integrity. If you wanted to know if will VZW charge you for returning a rooted phone, that would have been a more appropriate question and thread, not how do I trick Verizon. Lesson learned, not beating up on you.
The OP owned it, he said he was sending the replacement device back. Good for him. Like others I wasnt trying to come across as being rude as much as appalled at the blatant disregard of personal responsibility. At the same time posting this type of title and thread up on XDA is kinda asking for it, which again, the OP has acknowledged.
We know we hate the carriers locking devices down. Locking them actually presents more of a risk of bricking than unlocked devices that you can always flash back to stock. Almost every thread here has something to the effect of "by following such and such your warranty is now void and we are not responsible", come on, we're registered here at XDA, we all know this. If we want an open device get a dev or nexus device and get an extended warranty or insurance option, they're out there.
Congrats to the op for staying classy, your choices are your choices and you'll live with whatever choices you decide to make.
And as we all should know by now, dont post on the interwebz if you dont want to hear what people, trolls and non-trolls alike have to say...
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Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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Think of it like this. What do you use your phone for? To talk on the phone. Send messages. Email. Take pictures. Surf the web. Play games. Watch videos. Video chat. The other 20% is customization. If this was the year 1999 you would only be able to use your phone to make calls send messages and half-assed surf the web. Your phone is used for those types of things. Just because an update happened to a phone doesn't mean that you cannot use your phone to do those things it only limits you from updating to a different ROMS. ATT Verizon and them paid the money so they could have the locked boot loaders for the phones. If you didn't want restrictions then you wouldn't have used the upgrade you had and went and paid full price for the GPE s4 or other phone. Not saying that I like having a locked boot loader but since Obama came into office this is how its going to be because he's UN Americanized. But there are people working hard to get the boot loader unlocked it just takes time. You can still root it. Just my 2 cents
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