Hi, can someone from Roumania, if there are any users here on xda from my country, tell me if my warranty will be void if i unlock the bootloader using htcdev, i bought my phone from Vodafone Roumania, and so my phone is simlocked, and i tryed asking a lot of people and i still have no complete answer, furthermore i got many oposed answers from all those i have asked, i asked 3 persons from vodafone and they sayd: "yes, it will definitely void your warranty", "no, if you unlock the bootloader using the official method given by htc it will not void your warranty" and "i have no ideea what a bootloader is" (lol?) and 2 friends of mine asked directly at htc roumania and one of them got the answer: "no, by unlocking the bootloader using the htcdev method your warranty will not be void, but rooting and installing a custom rom will, and also your warranty will be void if you damage your phone by overclocking or other things" and my other friend got the answer: "yes, your warranty will be void, because you are modifying the software on the phone" so as you can see i have no ideea what to belive and what to do, and i really want to unlock the bootloader but i just got the phone and i want to be sure it is in no way hardware damaged allready before voiding my warranty?
In the EU you have 2 years warranty.as long as you don't damage the device. All you sign away when unlocking your bootloader is you can't come nagging if you have software errors.
Bottom line is you still have warranty on your hardware. You might get into discussions with your vendor and in the worst case need a lawyer to get your warranty.
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It will be cheaper to buy a new device than to get a lawyer =)))
Preaper said:
In the EU you have 2 years warranty.as long as you don't damage the device. All you sign away when unlocking your bootloader is you can't come nagging if you have software errors.
Bottom line is you still have warranty on your hardware. You might get into discussions with your vendor and in the worst case need a lawyer to get your warranty.
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That is totally not true. The warranty forbids any kind of software or hardware modifications. So although the act of unlocking you bootloader does not void it. Rooting or flashing a custom rom does.
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no it does not infect your warranty in germany.
we can go back to stock if warranty or repair necessesary. so is not important
after return from repair center, all my phones are unlocked/relocked and replaced with stock rom.
AndroHero said:
That is totally not true. The warranty forbids any kind of software or hardware modifications. So although the act of unlocking you bootloader does not void it. Rooting or flashing a custom rom does.
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I don't know if that is true. Anyhow, I'm talking about European law, which transcends any warranty.
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Synoptex said:
It will be cheaper to buy a new device than to get a lawyer =)))
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Which is why I have legal insurance
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Dear ppl,
Will rooting void my SAMSUNG warranty for the SGS2? Is there any official document where I can find this?
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JigsterNL said:
Dear ppl,
Will rooting void my SAMSUNG warranty for the SGS2? Is there any official document where I can find this?
Thanks in advantage!
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Yes. Info beneath my signature with the scrolling red thing
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JigsterNL said:
Dear ppl,
Will rooting void my SAMSUNG warranty for the SGS2? Is there any official document where I can find this?
Thanks in advantage!
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Official yes, but if you flash back to stock and wipe the flash counter they wont be able to tell.
here in the uk i dont think they could legally stop warranty for a hardware defect like a bad screen or speaker etc because the phone had root in place :-/
this is dodgy ground but why would / should a software mod stop warranty on hardware components that have failed when the root has nothing to do with them
but officially yes rooting voids warranty
keep a stock/unrooted cwm backup on your memory card and you can always flash back in an emergency
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here in the uk i dont think they could legally stop warranty for a hardware defect like a bad screen or speaker etc because the phone had root in place :-/
Yes and No Samsung can void warranty as its in the T&C .
The seller who is responsible for the phone can also void warranty as Samsung warrant the phone to them .
One Samsung have sent out to all service a reminder to look for evidence of rooting and two they even install a custom rom counter .
Its not against SOGA to have such conditions on warranty .
Hardware well yes it can be argued but the user would have to prove that the hardware was faulty with an independent engineers report .That would then be rejected once more by Samsung as not Samsung firmware on the phone . User then has to go through the courts .
Will a service centre notice or bother that i have non standard firmware often not but enough posts on XDA to suggest a number do and if it goes back to Samsung its definitely rejected .Hence the reason some pay for a JTAG machine repair .
Enough evidence to suggest that it is stupid not to take steps to be able to return your phone to a condition where it will be accepted under warranty .
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Congratulations on your new phone!
Here are some steps you can take to ensure that when full unlock s-off becomes available you too can join in on the fun.
1: Do Not Accept Any OTA Updates! unless listed as a requirement or it is listed as a step in the guide to full unlock
2: Wait patiently for your soon to be favorite developer to write a detailed guide involving all necessary steps to fully unlock your phone.
These are steps that many will already know and not realize there are others that may not be aware.
It may take time to get full unlock, remember NO ETA and don't ask for one. the devs WILL be hard at work to enjoy the phone unlocked too.
no one has it yet lol
I wonder who will post the first thread asking when will we have root or they'll return the phone?
preorders will receive it shortly, this will answer some questions that some may have regarding steps to take after receiving it,
these steps can be done at a moments notice if need be, but they cannot be undone, better to wait and see
Good post I learned the hard way about OTA's! I applied one on my OG EVO 4G and lost root for a few months. I must say it did suck!
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I wonder who will post the first thread asking when will we have root or they'll return the phone?
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That... And then the first one to say, "I just accepted the OTA... Did I just screw myself?"
mikebeam said:
Good post I learned the hard way about OTA's! I applied one on my OG EVO 4G and lost root for a few months. I must say it did suck!
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Good jesus are you talking about the gingerbread update from hell
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That... And then the first one to say, "I just accepted the OTA... Did I just screw myself?"
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What't the eta on cm10?
"Sprint cs told me to accept ota. Now phone wont go over 500kbs on 3g. Im gonna sue" lololol
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Can we get this to be a sticky?
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In regards to #2, what's wrong with using the HTC unlock method as it pertains to acquiring an unlock at a later time? Or, is the only issue the risk of a voided warranty?
iz dis phone root yet? when root
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mlin said:
In regards to #2, what's wrong with using the HTC unlock method as it pertains to acquiring an unlock at a later time? Or, is the only issue the risk of a voided warranty?
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Why void your warranty when you know there will be a root released fairly soon after the device launches (or before the devices launches if you're the OG Evo ).
mlin said:
In regards to #2, what's wrong with using the HTC unlock method as it pertains to acquiring an unlock at a later time? Or, is the only issue the risk of a voided warranty?
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Yeah the only risk is warrenty that I can think of if u want to go for it.
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ckoadiyn said:
Yeah the only risk is warrenty that I can think of if u want to go for it.
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Has there been confirmation that the warranty will be voided? I know the HTCDev site states "May void your warranty" not that it does for sure.
An example of the vagueness of this language: I recently did an ECU upgrade on my car and Renntech stated it "may void my warranty" but according to Mercedes-Benz, the warranty is still fully intact even with the modification...
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Has there been confirmation that the warranty will be voided? I know the HTCDev site states "May void your warranty" not that it does for sure.
An example of the vagueness of this language: I recently did an ECU upgrade on my car and Renntech stated it "may void my warranty" but according to Mercedes-Benz, the warranty is still fully intact even with the modification...
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Not that I know of I have yet to see someone say I used HTC unlock and now they won't replace my touchscreen. Lol
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In regards to #2, what's wrong with using the HTC unlock method as it pertains to acquiring an unlock at a later time? Or, is the only issue the risk of a voided warranty?
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i mentioned it because leaving the phone stock gives the developers a blank slate to start with, there is a possibility that unlocking the bootloader might prevent full s-off in some way.
As someone totally new to the smartphone arena, thanks for the helpful post!
mlin said:
Has there been confirmation that the warranty will be voided? I know the HTCDev site states "May void your warranty" not that it does for sure.
An example of the vagueness of this language: I recently did an ECU upgrade on my car and Renntech stated it "may void my warranty" but according to Mercedes-Benz, the warranty is still fully intact even with the modification...
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There is a thread in one x forums (international) in depth about this. Apparently HTC is using this vague reference as a way to save money (and even MAKE money -300$ required factory reset reqd when shipped to HTC) now that they provide a half assed unlock. Go have a look if you doubt me. I read it for several days.
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Speaking of warranties...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act
http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides/ftc/warranties/undermag.htm
......and don't flash firmware from virgin mobile.
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Also to the people that will be getting their phones from Best Buy. Do not allow the BB employee to do an OTA while they are activating your phone. This happened to me on my release day OG Evo. Luckily a new root method was figured out fairly quickly and I was able to root a few days later.
Rooting the phone and flashing a custom ROM generally voids the warranty right? Is anyone worried about this? If we have an issue and flash back to stock before sending it in, will they know and deny warranty repair?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675325
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what warranty?
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Coreym said:
what warranty?
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That thing that allows you to not have to pay another $700 if your phone develops a hardware issue
Also that linked thread doesnt have any concrete info
Just wondering if anyone could answer this for me real quick. I had recently hard bricked my LGOG (did the most stupid, noob thing u could imagine) and had insurance on it thru ATT. Got them to send me a replacement and now I'm worried they will know that I had rooted/unlocked it and the cause of the 1st phones failure was caused by me and therefore voiding the warranty. The lady I spoke to about the warranty explained the process to me then explained to me what happens if warranty is voided, and its not pretty. Kind of nervous now. Anyone done this before or have knowledge on this subject?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Just realized this might be in wrong forum section. Sorry. Q&A, troubleshooting may be more appropriate.
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Abu Nazir said:
Just wondering if anyone could answer this for me real quick. I had recently hard bricked my LGOG (did the most stupid, noob thing u could imagine) and had insurance on it thru ATT. Got them to send me a replacement and now I'm worried they will know that I had rooted/unlocked it and the cause of the 1st phones failure was caused by me and therefore voiding the warranty. The lady I spoke to about the warranty explained the process to me then explained to me what happens if warranty is voided, and its not pretty. Kind of nervous now. Anyone done this before or have knowledge on this subject?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Just realized this might be in wrong forum section. Sorry. Q&A, troubleshooting may be more appropriate.
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If you have insurance... you can just say you lost the phone, which means you can't send it in. That way they have no idea the warranty was voided.
Abu Nazir said:
Just wondering if anyone could answer this for me real quick. I had recently hard bricked my LGOG (did the most stupid, noob thing u could imagine) and had insurance on it thru ATT. Got them to send me a replacement and now I'm worried they will know that I had rooted/unlocked it and the cause of the 1st phones failure was caused by me and therefore voiding the warranty. The lady I spoke to about the warranty explained the process to me then explained to me what happens if warranty is voided, and its not pretty. Kind of nervous now. Anyone done this before or have knowledge on this subject?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Just realized this might be in wrong forum section. Sorry. Q&A, troubleshooting may be more appropriate.
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Well, you should honestly not exchange phones that you brick. You guys even have bootloader unlocked so you must have noobed hard to actually brick the phone. Why didn't you just use lgnpst?
I have no idea if they'll find out. But you said you had insurance, insurance covers basically anything with a deductible so as long as your ok paying the deductible I wouldn't worry too much.
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I have been told they don't do in-debt checks of the phones returned. Don't know if that's true though.
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Abu Nazir said:
Just wondering if anyone could answer this for me real quick. I had recently hard bricked my LGOG (did the most stupid, noob thing u could imagine) and had insurance on it thru ATT. Got them to send me a replacement and now I'm worried they will know that I had rooted/unlocked it and the cause of the 1st phones failure was caused by me and therefore voiding the warranty. The lady I spoke to about the warranty explained the process to me then explained to me what happens if warranty is voided, and its not pretty. Kind of nervous now. Anyone done this before or have knowledge on this subject?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Just realized this might be in wrong forum section. Sorry. Q&A, troubleshooting may be more appropriate.
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I sent in my note that was rooted for a broken screen. They never said anything.
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OK. Well good info guys. And yes I noobed it beyond belief. I'm really embarrassed to say what I did but heck with it. I flashed ICS custom ROM over JB stock ROM. :banghead::banghead:
Straight up hard brick. No download mode, nothing at all. Tried unplugging the battery/plugging back in. Nothing. Fin. Was going to just say I just lost it. That was orig plan but I thought by doing that I would have to get new number. Found out that's not the case after the fact . Lol. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
U live and u learn I guess. Its funny though, I always learn something very valuable by making the biggest mistakes. Lol.
Thanks again for the great info guys.
LGOG Stock 4.1.2 w/ ME's kernel oc/uv
Umm flashing custom ICS ROM over stock JB ROM should not cause a hard brick.
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I'm pretty sure they won't find out... or if they do... they won't penalize you for it..
My buddy sent his back through insurance and it was bricked and he got his replacement phone with no issues.
Good luck
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g33k3r said:
Umm flashing custom ICS ROM over stock JB ROM should not cause a hard brick.
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Well that's what I thought too. Here's exactly what I did. I had the new stock JB 4.1.2. I had debloated it. U know, i customized it to my liking, ie, ME's super awesome B18c1 kernel, etc. ect. I had LGNPST'd it to the new JB. At&t phone BTW. Anyway when I first got this phone 1st thing I did was root/unlock and installed Snow's JB ROM. Once official JB came out along with the new 4.2.2 ROMs (vanilla root box, chaos) I wanted to try those and LGNPST'd to official like I stated earlier. Well, out of all those ROMs, and I don't know why but, Snow's JB ROM with ME's kernel worked so amazingly and I loved it. Most of all battery life was just retarded good. So, that's when i, without thinking too much about it, decided to flash back Snow's ROM over the JB ROM. Soon as I did that instant brick city. I just thought it may have had something to do with the TZ partition or something like that. I've soft bricked my phone a couple times by just not thinking clearly and never had any problems getting into download mode and LGNPST'ing back to whatever I needed. I'm just thinking now I should have LGNPST'd back to 4.0.4 or whatever it was before 4.1.2. Idk. Maybe someone can shed some light on the subject. Idk. Doesn't really matter now. I will never do that again. Anyway, thanks for the replies. I feel a little better. Thanks again. I really love the XDA community and love our little LGOG community!
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Abu Nazir said:
Just wondering if anyone could answer this for me real quick. I had recently hard bricked my LGOG (did the most stupid, noob thing u could imagine) and had insurance on it thru ATT. Got them to send me a replacement and now I'm worried they will know that I had rooted/unlocked it and the cause of the 1st phones failure was caused by me and therefore voiding the warranty. The lady I spoke to about the warranty explained the process to me then explained to me what happens if warranty is voided, and its not pretty. Kind of nervous now. Anyone done this before or have knowledge on this subject?? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Just realized this might be in wrong forum section. Sorry. Q&A, troubleshooting may be more appropriate.
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I've returned two 'bricked' phones. I unrooted and set back to stock all my root changes, and then did a full factory reset, and the phone would fail to boot (softbrick most likely) and both times I didn't hear a peep. And this was without the boot failure being the reason for the return. So, if they don't ***** about that, you shouldn't have any trouble.
You can file an insurance claim for any reason, your fault or not so long as you don't mind paying the deductible. Warranty exchanges are what sometimes get people in trouble, they're for manufacturer hardware/ software issues.
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Abu Nazir said:
Just realized this might be in wrong forum section. Sorry. Q&A, troubleshooting may be more appropriate.
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FTFY
Moved to Q&A
In the future feel free to use the report button to let the MODS know to move it.
This is my second hard bricked LGOG that I'm getting a replacement for via warranty. This last hard brick was from a teenybin which I found funny. Either way, my phone had a locked boot loader for the second round. 1st one was unlocked, rooted etc etc and no one noticed. You should be good.
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So this article was just posted on XDA about a irreversible Fuse which is blown on the 6P when you unlock the bootloader. This doesn't mean the phone loses functionality, rather you can't revert it which most likely will void the warranty.
To some this may not be a prob, but I would like to know I can relock the bootloader and claim a warranty if need be.
Anyone else have thoughts on this... Any ways around...??
Original article
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-e...hich-blows-irreversibly-on-bootloader-unlock/
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DrunkFuX666 said:
So this article was just posted on XDA about a irreversible Fuse which is blown on the 6P when you unlock the bootloader. This doesn't mean the phone loses functionality, rather you can't revert it which most likely will void the warranty.
To some this may not be a prob, but I would like to know I can relock the bootloader and claim a warranty if need be.
Anyone else have thoughts on this... Any ways around...??
Original article
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-e...hich-blows-irreversibly-on-bootloader-unlock/
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/unlocking-bootloader-warranty-google-t3229804
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/unlocking-bootloader-warranty-google-t3229804
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.....What he said
Please use the existing threads for this discussion. Thank you
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