Hi, I had a question regarding what I've been seeing in the forum. A lot of you mention you go into Sprint and get a replacement EVO--does this work only if you pay that monthly insurance rate? I once went in with a LG Marquee that had issues and they didn't replace it for me (they said it had water damage even though this was a very new phone and I know for certain it did not). Did I just have a bad experience or will Sprint actually replace the phone if there are significant issues? Also, would they replace it if its rooted or has a unlocked bootloader?
Thanks.
I didn't want to make a new thread for this question:
If I do the OTA update to Jelly Bean, will I still be able to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root? I don't mind being S-On--I just want to be able to run a rom like MeanBean.
007math said:
I didn't want to make a new thread for this question:
If I do the OTA update to Jelly Bean, will I still be able to unlock bootloader, install TWRP and root? I don't mind being S-On--I just want to be able to run a rom like MeanBean.
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yes u can still unlock the bootloader and root.. u just wont be able to get s-off at the moment..
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Hey guys/and the few gals here,
If im to unlock my bootloader and install the leaked version of GB, when it actually is released will i still get the prompt to update my phone? Also is there a way to lock the bootloader again, would it just be flashing back to an older FW thats out or how would it work?
you will get the update much quicker being unlocked because you can guarantee the instant the OTA drops it will be posted everywhere and peopel will be flashing it.
if you dont unlock, it takes weeks to actually get rolled out to each device.
so if you want the OTA fastest, its better to be unlocked.
StyleUkno said:
Hey guys/and the few gals here,
If im to unlock my bootloader and install the leaked version of GB, when it actually is released will i still get the prompt to update my phone? Also is there a way to lock the bootloader again, would it just be flashing back to an older FW thats out or how would it work?
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Once unlocked, always unlocked.
You may get bugged about the update, but I am betting you won't, (lets just say I researched it), if on the leaked 4.5.91.
I would go with Kenneth Penn's 4.5.91/2.3.4 beta 4.5.
so if i unlock NEVER NEVER do OTA updates just come here for it and it wont ask me to do an OTA update or will i keep getting that annoying pop up like every hr?
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if you dont unlock, it takes weeks to actually get rolled out to each device.
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Not true! 4.1.57 and 4.1.83 came out a couple of days after the SOAK tests for them ended! Timing was about the same as this one is going. I'm betting on a 2.3.* release by end of next week
Also, I have got all my updates the first day they have been released. Very few people wait long for the update to be available. Some do, but many of these people have errors with their IMEI in the databases preventing updates. Also, many of them are modded and don't realize they have to be stock to get updates/upgrades.
StyleUkno said:
so if i unlock NEVER NEVER do OTA updates just come here for it and it wont ask me to do an OTA update or will i keep getting that annoying pop up like every hr?
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Depends...............in some of the previous releases people have been bugged for the OTA after flashing the service sbf to update.
Oh, and for clarification, 2.3.* will be an upgrade, while 4.1.57 and 4.1.83 were updates.
Now, since this voids the warranty on the phone, if im paying for insurance on the phone through ATT and if i unlock the bootloader will they still take it back if anything happens to it??
StyleUkno said:
Now, since this voids the warranty on the phone, if im paying for insurance on the phone through ATT and if i unlock the bootloader will they still take it back if anything happens to it??
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im curious on this too. If the rumor is true with the OTA gingerbread unlocking the bootloader..will that be considered warranty void?
I have already rooted using RagawMod. My question is if I update software to 1.22.651.3 will it mess up root access or should I unroot then update software and re-root?
Thanks in adfvance for any help
If you do the ota update Yes it'll mess up root. Why not flash a custom rom that's based on the new update?
NEVER unroot in order to take an OTA.
Also, get full S-OFF while you still can.
In order to upgrade now that you are rooted, you flash a custom ROM. Thats it. Don't take the OTA, don't unroot.
RE-root
The reason I asked is I just saw the have a new root for the new OTA 1.22.651.3. Was not sure if the new OTA fixed some of the bugs with the LTE?
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The reason I asked is I just saw the have a new root for the new OTA 1.22.651.3. Was not sure if the new OTA fixed some of the bugs with the LTE?
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What root are you referring to? All I'm aware of is HTC dev, and thats not what you want to use. Get full S-OFF while you can
Flashing a ROM that's based on the new OTA will give you all of the fixes of the OTA without screwing up your device.
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What root are you referring to? All I'm aware of is HTC dev, and thats not what you want to use. Get full S-OFF while you can
Flashing a ROM that's based on the new OTA will give you all of the fixes of the OTA without screwing up your device.
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What are the pro's to updating? I just got my EVO a couple days ago and its on 1.13.651.1 71ORD. I won't be getting any OTA's because I plan on rooting and getting full s-off. I still need to read the forums a little more before I do any of that. I've never flashed ROMs before so if that is the only way to update then I might hold off on that for now, unless there are some good reasons why I need to do it.
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What are the pro's to updating? I just got my EVO a couple days ago and its on 1.13.651.1 71ORD. I won't be getting any OTA's because I plan on rooting and getting full s-off. I still need to read the forums a little more before I do any of that. I've never flashed ROMs before so if that is the only way to update then I might hold off on that for now, unless there are some good reasons why I need to do it.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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If you're rooted you should be able to flash MeanROM, i didn't take the ota but im s-on and am running it
Sent from my Mean Ass NuVo LTE
Still not sure why I would want the update after I root and get s-off. All I really want to do at the moment is root so I can delete all the sprint garbage and get rid of sense. I know doing the OTA is a no-no, but is there anything I should think about doing after I root? Can anyone recommend the best way to go about that? I'm basically a new, but I want to make sure I have the ability to mess with my phone down the road.
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I am a new user here, but I am already rooted with 1.22.651.3. I completely regret OTA'ing simply because I find it confusing how to achieve S-Off while having this updated version. I've been exploring the developer section and I have really fallen in love with MeanROM, but I cannot get it as my phone does not have S-Off.
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You cannot get S-OFF if you took the OTA. Simple as that.
You can still flash ROMS though
Yep i still have s-off after taking the OTA it is just my hboot is different
Hi all,
I want to update my wife's HTC One to 4.3 (she's on 4.1 now). I rooted her phone when she first got it to remove the crapware but other than that it's stock (no custom ROM, no S-OFF). What's the best way to go about this? I'd prefer not to S-OFF if possible, but obviously would like the newer firmware. Would flashing the RUU work? Or would that just land me in deeper problems?
Thanks!
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Hi all,
I want to update my wife's HTC One to 4.3 (she's on 4.1 now). I rooted her phone when she first got it to remove the crapware but other than that it's stock (no custom ROM, no S-OFF). What's the best way to go about this? I'd prefer not to S-OFF if possible, but obviously would like the newer firmware. Would flashing the RUU work? Or would that just land me in deeper problems?
Thanks!
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ruu will work
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ruu will work
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OK so I'd just run the RUU, and then reroot?
thats correct if the phone is not s-off you will have to relock the bootloader first in fastboot with this command fastboot oem lock then run the ruu after it is done reunlock the bootloader with your unlock tocken fastboot a custom recovery and reroot
Great thank you! That may be more steps, but my wife really doesn't need S-OFF just no crapware so that's probably the best option.
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Great thank you! That may be more steps, but my wife really doesn't need S-OFF just no crapware so that's probably the best option.
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actually you can hide most off the crapware under settings then apps go to the all tab and pick the app you want and disable it
Will unlocked version of sprint get an OTA
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Will unlocked version of sprint get an OTA
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Do you mean "bumped," with TWRP recovery?
If so, you'll still get notified about the OTA. The OTA should fail to run, but on my last device some people had the KitKat update run even though they had a custom recovery, and it screwed up all sorts of things. So don't accept the OTA if you get it.
To make sure you don't get the OTA, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
If by "unlocked" you mean something else, please explain.
As long as the phones system is totally original with no mods or deleted files you should get ota...depends on how it was unlocked.
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Do you mean "bumped," with TWRP recovery?
If so, you'll still get notified about the OTA. The OTA should fail to run, but on my last device some people had the KitKat update run even though they had a custom recovery, and it screwed up all sorts of things. So don't accept the OTA if you get it.
To make sure you don't get the OTA, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
If by "unlocked" you mean something else, please explain.
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As long as the phones system is totally original with no mods or deleted files you should get ota...depends on how it was unlocked.
Sent from rotary technology Phone
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I am basically getting a used device from a Friend of mine who got it from US and now in India its a Sprint variant and he is currently using it here, Where as he is not in to Rooting and Customizing, Where as I am so Ill be getting the device today evening, I need to know if its unlocked CAN it be locked again by Sprint (Not sure how it was unlocked) if its locked again can i use Bump and Unlock.
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I am basically getting a used device from a Friend of mine who got it from US and now in India its a Sprint variant and he is currently using it here, Where as he is not in to Rooting and Customizing, Where as I am so Ill be getting the device today evening, I need to know if its unlocked CAN it be locked again by Sprint (Not sure how it was unlocked) if its locked again can i use Bump and Unlock.
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Im sure if its unlocked it can still get ota by flashtool. If system is changed. But as far as root or bump. Certainly can. It can be bumped stumped etc. And flashtool back for ota. Depending how it was unlocked. Meaning if it was rooted to unlock then will have to flashtool back im almost sure. Again if your wanting to make sure it stays unlocked usually once unlocked it will stay. I guess it will depend how. And if oem unlocked then im sure re locking is not much of an option. However you should be fine from many of these worries. Hope not to confuse you. Im very tired. Lol. Trying to cover all bases. There are many ways to unlock many devices on many carriers so its really hard to say. But there are mostly generalized options one would believe.
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Im sure if its unlocked it can still get ota by flashtool. If system is changed. But as far as root or bump. Certainly can. It can be bumped stumped etc. And flashtool back for ota. Depending how it was unlocked. Meaning if it was rooted to unlock then will have to flashtool back im almost sure. Again if your wanting to make sure it stays unlocked usually once unlocked it will stay. I guess it will depend how. And if oem unlocked then im sure re locking is not much of an option. However you should be fine from many of these worries. Hope not to confuse you. Im very tired. Lol. Trying to cover all bases. There are many ways to unlock many devices on many carriers so its really hard to say. But there are mostly generalized options one would believe.
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Thanks for such a detailed answer,
Now when I get the bhone should i be unlocking Bootloader ?
Please suggest me an easy way to ROOT this device?
Which is the most customizied Rom available on this Sprint Thread, I am sure I should not be flashing any other Carrier Roms or International Version of ROM which may Brick the device.
My Friend is claiming that is factory unlocked,Is there a way to find if device is Factory unlocked ??
how do i root the htc one m8 I am familiar with rooting as i had a s4 rooted with gpe but i am confused with the htc one m8 plz help
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how do i root the htc one m8 I am familiar with rooting as i had a s4 rooted with gpe but i am confused with the htc one m8 plz help
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How to root (with links) is explained on my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Also, much of the "HTC specific" lingo is explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527
I would suggest reading up (and making sure you understand all the terms and processes) for at least a couple hours before trying anything on the phone. I do this every time I buy a new device, even having own quite a few HTC phones. In fact, I usually start reading and researching before I have the phone in hand.
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also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
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also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
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If your talking about ROM, then take a full backup of your ROM before flashing custom ROM using titanium/nandroid etc.
Or if your talking about root,
Just unroot using unroot apps from play store or the respected app you get after rooting.
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also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
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As the above reply stated, it depends on what you are talking about.
If you just want the stock ROM, recovery, etc. one option is to relock the bootloader and just run the RUU. It will return you to stock software. The only thing not "stock" will be the bootloader will say RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. You need s-off to make it say LOCKED again (after unlocking it).
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so this is what i want to do i want to unlock bootloader then root which i know how to do but i was woundering would i be able to install this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/rom-sd-4-0-sense7-port-sdkernel-t3062367
would i be able to install that rom soon as i am done unlocking the bootloader and rooting or would i have extra stuff sorry for the dumb questions
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so this is what i want to do i want to unlock bootloader then root which i know how to do but i was woundering would i be able to install this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/rom-sd-4-0-sense7-port-sdkernel-t3062367
would i be able to install that rom soon as i am done unlocking the bootloader and rooting or would i have extra stuff sorry for the dumb questions
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What are your current hboot and radio numbers?
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What are your current hboot and radio numbers?
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my hboot is 3.19 and my radio is [email protected]
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my hboot is 3.19 and my radio is [email protected]
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You should be good to go, then. Just unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery and flash the Skydragon ROM you linked.
would i need to be s-off and would i be able to go back stock and relock the bootloader with s-on again sorry for the manny questions i am new to this phone
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would i need to be s-off and would i be able to go back stock and relock the bootloader with s-on again sorry for the manny questions i am new to this phone
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You can return to stock with a RELOCKED bootloader with s-on.
You do need s-off if you want to make the bootloader say LOCKED as it was from the factory. But the only reason to ever do this is for warranty purposes. And if you bought the phone from AT&T, you should note that your warranty is through AT&T, not HTC. And AT&T doesn't give a crap if the bootloader is unlocked, or whatever (folks have even successfully sent in phones for warranty with custom ROMs on them).
If you are seeing warranty service through HTC (you didn't purchase from AT&T) that is another story. But that is the only reason I'd bother going back to LOCKED.
In normal usage, I recommend leaving the bootloader UNLOCKED as it give you more flexibility to flash ROMs whenever you want, etc. The only reason IMO to relock the bootloader in normal usage is to run the RUU.
S-off is nice have if you want to flash radios, modified hboots, and some other things (you also don't need to relock to RUU with s-off). It certainly doesn't hurt, and some folks like to make the phone as customizable as possible right away. In fact, I did s-off to the phone the second day I had it (although s-off was free back then). But for you, its not strictly "needed" at this time unless you want to do the things mentioned.
so heres the thing again sorry for the manny questions i am just making sure if i do this everything will work so heres the thing the rom i linked if i were to flash it will my at&t sevice work since it would be a different baseband
can you link me the latest twrp recovery for the at&t htc m8 so i can flash once i unlock the boatloader
xCellHD said:
can you link me the latest twrp recovery for the at&t htc m8 so i can flash once i unlock the boatloader
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https://twrp.me/devices/htconem8gsm.html
the latest twrp 2.8.6.0 should work with my at&t m8 ?
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so heres the thing again sorry for the manny questions i am just making sure if i do this everything will work so heres the thing the rom i linked if i were to flash it will my at&t sevice work since it would be a different baseband
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The baseband isn't determined by the ROM, its determined by flashing a different baseband/radio (which requires s-off).
There are some folks that have had issues on AT&T's LTE network using some custom ROMs. Namely, not receiving or sending voice calls while on LTE. But this seems somewhat random, and not the ROMs fault per se; but probably changes that AT&T is making to their network. The most you can do is flash the Skydragon ROM, and if you have problems, try another ROM or revert to stock.
Make a backup of your stock ROM with TWRP before you flash anything, to be sure you have something to revert to if you have problems. This is good general advice before you flash any custom ROMs, root mods, etc.
I'm using the ROM your linked (Skydragon Sense 7) on AT&T, and it works fine for me.