Will unlocked version of sprint get an OTA
aukhan said:
Will unlocked version of sprint get an OTA
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Do you mean "bumped," with TWRP recovery?
If so, you'll still get notified about the OTA. The OTA should fail to run, but on my last device some people had the KitKat update run even though they had a custom recovery, and it screwed up all sorts of things. So don't accept the OTA if you get it.
To make sure you don't get the OTA, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
If by "unlocked" you mean something else, please explain.
As long as the phones system is totally original with no mods or deleted files you should get ota...depends on how it was unlocked.
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meyerweb said:
Do you mean "bumped," with TWRP recovery?
If so, you'll still get notified about the OTA. The OTA should fail to run, but on my last device some people had the KitKat update run even though they had a custom recovery, and it screwed up all sorts of things. So don't accept the OTA if you get it.
To make sure you don't get the OTA, see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
If by "unlocked" you mean something else, please explain.
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Droid2drummer said:
As long as the phones system is totally original with no mods or deleted files you should get ota...depends on how it was unlocked.
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I am basically getting a used device from a Friend of mine who got it from US and now in India its a Sprint variant and he is currently using it here, Where as he is not in to Rooting and Customizing, Where as I am so Ill be getting the device today evening, I need to know if its unlocked CAN it be locked again by Sprint (Not sure how it was unlocked) if its locked again can i use Bump and Unlock.
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I am basically getting a used device from a Friend of mine who got it from US and now in India its a Sprint variant and he is currently using it here, Where as he is not in to Rooting and Customizing, Where as I am so Ill be getting the device today evening, I need to know if its unlocked CAN it be locked again by Sprint (Not sure how it was unlocked) if its locked again can i use Bump and Unlock.
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Im sure if its unlocked it can still get ota by flashtool. If system is changed. But as far as root or bump. Certainly can. It can be bumped stumped etc. And flashtool back for ota. Depending how it was unlocked. Meaning if it was rooted to unlock then will have to flashtool back im almost sure. Again if your wanting to make sure it stays unlocked usually once unlocked it will stay. I guess it will depend how. And if oem unlocked then im sure re locking is not much of an option. However you should be fine from many of these worries. Hope not to confuse you. Im very tired. Lol. Trying to cover all bases. There are many ways to unlock many devices on many carriers so its really hard to say. But there are mostly generalized options one would believe.
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Im sure if its unlocked it can still get ota by flashtool. If system is changed. But as far as root or bump. Certainly can. It can be bumped stumped etc. And flashtool back for ota. Depending how it was unlocked. Meaning if it was rooted to unlock then will have to flashtool back im almost sure. Again if your wanting to make sure it stays unlocked usually once unlocked it will stay. I guess it will depend how. And if oem unlocked then im sure re locking is not much of an option. However you should be fine from many of these worries. Hope not to confuse you. Im very tired. Lol. Trying to cover all bases. There are many ways to unlock many devices on many carriers so its really hard to say. But there are mostly generalized options one would believe.
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Thanks for such a detailed answer,
Now when I get the bhone should i be unlocking Bootloader ?
Please suggest me an easy way to ROOT this device?
Which is the most customizied Rom available on this Sprint Thread, I am sure I should not be flashing any other Carrier Roms or International Version of ROM which may Brick the device.
My Friend is claiming that is factory unlocked,Is there a way to find if device is Factory unlocked ??
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Hey guys/and the few gals here,
If im to unlock my bootloader and install the leaked version of GB, when it actually is released will i still get the prompt to update my phone? Also is there a way to lock the bootloader again, would it just be flashing back to an older FW thats out or how would it work?
you will get the update much quicker being unlocked because you can guarantee the instant the OTA drops it will be posted everywhere and peopel will be flashing it.
if you dont unlock, it takes weeks to actually get rolled out to each device.
so if you want the OTA fastest, its better to be unlocked.
StyleUkno said:
Hey guys/and the few gals here,
If im to unlock my bootloader and install the leaked version of GB, when it actually is released will i still get the prompt to update my phone? Also is there a way to lock the bootloader again, would it just be flashing back to an older FW thats out or how would it work?
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Once unlocked, always unlocked.
You may get bugged about the update, but I am betting you won't, (lets just say I researched it), if on the leaked 4.5.91.
I would go with Kenneth Penn's 4.5.91/2.3.4 beta 4.5.
so if i unlock NEVER NEVER do OTA updates just come here for it and it wont ask me to do an OTA update or will i keep getting that annoying pop up like every hr?
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if you dont unlock, it takes weeks to actually get rolled out to each device.
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Not true! 4.1.57 and 4.1.83 came out a couple of days after the SOAK tests for them ended! Timing was about the same as this one is going. I'm betting on a 2.3.* release by end of next week
Also, I have got all my updates the first day they have been released. Very few people wait long for the update to be available. Some do, but many of these people have errors with their IMEI in the databases preventing updates. Also, many of them are modded and don't realize they have to be stock to get updates/upgrades.
StyleUkno said:
so if i unlock NEVER NEVER do OTA updates just come here for it and it wont ask me to do an OTA update or will i keep getting that annoying pop up like every hr?
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Depends...............in some of the previous releases people have been bugged for the OTA after flashing the service sbf to update.
Oh, and for clarification, 2.3.* will be an upgrade, while 4.1.57 and 4.1.83 were updates.
Now, since this voids the warranty on the phone, if im paying for insurance on the phone through ATT and if i unlock the bootloader will they still take it back if anything happens to it??
StyleUkno said:
Now, since this voids the warranty on the phone, if im paying for insurance on the phone through ATT and if i unlock the bootloader will they still take it back if anything happens to it??
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im curious on this too. If the rumor is true with the OTA gingerbread unlocking the bootloader..will that be considered warranty void?
I may have to return my ATRIX due to Let'sTalk horrible customer service, but I was wondering if there is anyway to re-lock the Bootloader, or to hide the fact that it says, Unlocked. Thank you in advanced
Also, I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, as this is urgent to me and I have yet to see any otherpost relating this topic.
There is another topic like this.
No you can't re-lock and no you can't "hide" the unlock wording. Sorry.
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Assume you installed 2.3 using CWM, if that is the case, you can flash the stock 1.8.3. Because the bootloader is not compatible with the unlocked phones, it won't show the "unlocked" text when you turn on the phone. I have tried it when I was trying to get rid if the unlocked text.
The down side is, you won't be able to flash custom ROM until you flash a compatible bootloader.
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But downgrading will hard brick the phone.be very very carefully.
Reflash To Stock
Unfortunately, there is no way to relock a bootloader. Hence all of the warnings when you committed
but, if you use 4.5.91 the software at the address below should reinstall the newest stock software...
direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/SoftwareUpdateSelect.asp?country=USA&language=ENS
be careful because Im not sure how motorola update will react to an unlocked bootloader. Ask around...do so at your own risk.
If you want to try a harder, albeit, safer method, and you are sure that you do not have a phone running 4.1.5.91, you can restore your phone to a factory SBF with this process:
briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-system-boot-file-sbf-leaked
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRY TO RESTORE A 4.5.91 system to stock with RSD LITE.
To go to any of the blue webaddresses above, copy-paste them into your browser. Sorry, but I am not allowed to post links yet.
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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But downgrading will hard brick the phone.be very very carefully.
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The downgrading and hard brick problem stems from using the OTA update, so you won't hard brick if for example you upgraded with KP's 4.5.91.
You also should be able to flash the 4.5.91 SBF. You just can't downgrade. There are other threads about this.
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maledyris said:
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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The reason the fruitcakes were created and deemed safe by the devs were because it didn't touch the BL, which people believe to be the culprit behind the hard bricks. NFhimself was brave enough to testing flashing the BL via cwm in his gobstopper on international phones, but I don't think any other devs are willing to risk hard bricking their phones by testing that theory on US phones.
There also isn't enough "reward" for doing so because if people want to downgrade they can use a fruitcake. The only gain is to get rid of the "unlock" text. But if you were really that concerned about it despite reading all the warnings of this will void you warranty, you shouldn't have unlocked in the first place.
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I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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Hi,
One of the reasons I did up a default CWM of 2.2.2 is to have a means of doing a reset after trying all ATT/ORANGE/TELSTRA/MOVIESTAR/etc firmwares out there which may have side effects or accumulated side effects. Hence the inclusion of the stock bootloader and radio and a write of the extra partitions to clean up whatever mix and match leftovers are in there from the various carriers. The other big one is just to be able to get a Bell OTA applied when it comes out, it will probably be similar to the leak, but best to be safe.
This is more of a Bell/Intl issue as ATT folks tend to run just ATT firmware or flash just boot and system via CWM/fastboot and don't have the same issues as flashing a sbf file.
Both the stock 2.2.2 and leaked ap20 OTA bootloaders from Bell are safe to flash after IHOP, this is not the case with ATT bootloaders and may be the case for any included in a sbf file. Finding out the hard way is not an option.
Cheers!
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Assume you installed 2.3 using CWM, if that is the case, you can flash the stock 1.8.3. Because the bootloader is not compatible with the unlocked phones, it won't show the "unlocked" text when you turn on the phone. I have tried it when I was trying to get rid if the unlocked text.
The down side is, you won't be able to flash custom ROM until you flash a compatible bootloader.
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Say I unlocked it at 1.8.3 should I go down to 1.5.7? Is that safe?
moto helper update relocked mine flashed it to 4.5.91 and i had to reunlock and root agin i thought i was getting a driver update not ota.I was on rom homebase + extras but my win 7 64 bit wasent seeing my phone so i reinstalled drivers and updated drivers and updated moto helper and in the process flashed my phone to stock that pissed me off had to start over..I rebooted the phone several times and never seen unlocked on boot tried to fastboot into android recovery and got the triangle im all good now back on homebase ext4 just thought id share that you realy can relock at least it dont say unlocked i beleve its locked
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and no you can't "hide" the unlock wording. Sorry.
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Err...............yes you can!
care to share how?
Scolis said:
care to share how?
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Read the thread from the start. It's already been said!
CaelanT said:
Read the thread from the start. It's already been said!
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Trying this today. Seems like my vibrator motor quit working. Phone is 6 months old I should be under the year warranty or so right?
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Trying this today. Seems like my vibrator motor quit working. Phone is 6 months old I should be under the year warranty or so right?
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When I was at school 6 months < 1 year so yes!
This is where you need to look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
CaelanT said:
When I was at school 6 months < 1 year so yes!
This is where you need to look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
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Lol well I wasn't sure it had a one year warranty. Found out my vibrator does work. Just sometimes doesn't on cm7. Weird. Well I may try this anyways. Tired of custom Roms.
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leperkuan said:
Found out my vibrator does work.
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Think you should go to another site other than XDA with this. Something in the XXX domain should work for you. Too much information for me! LOL................
assuming it is still in warranty
hard brick the phone and return it
just tell them you was doing a software update and your kid unplugged the phone while doing so
Don't currently own one, just want to make sure about a few things. Searched through the Dev forum but still I am not 100% sure and that's why I am asking here, just to confirm.
1. Is the bootloader unlocked for all firmware so I can flash custom ROMs or do I need to check something to determine if the bootloader is unlocked? I read somewhere that firmware 2.3.5 9 or above cannot be unlocked.
2. Does it come carrier unlocked by default to be used in countries other than the US, I mean use any GSM SIM?
3. What other phone can you tell me to look at, with similar specs and price range? I am interested in unlocked GSM, doesn't matter if its CDMA or not.
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Don't currently own one, just want to make sure about a few things. Searched through the Dev forum but still I am not 100% sure and that's why I am asking here, just to confirm.
1. Is the bootloader unlocked for all firmware so I can flash custom ROMs or do I need to check something to determine if the bootloader is unlocked? I read somewhere that firmware 2.3.5 9 or above cannot be unlocked.
2. Does it come carrier unlocked by default to be used in countries other than the US, I mean use any GSM SIM?
3. What other phone can you tell me to look at, with similar specs and price range? I am interested in unlocked GSM, doesn't matter if its CDMA or not.
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1) Need to be on 2.3.4 in order to unlock bootloader. If ordering from sprint, it might already come with 2.3.5. Buy from eBay and make sure to have the seller confirm its on 2.3.4.
2) Its a world phone. Its only carrier locked in the united states. But there are ways around this.
3) As far as used price range, the GS2 is probably the closest mainstream competitor on sprint. Galaxy nexus being just a bit more expensive. But you lack world phone capabilities and the photon is arguably a better phone all around depending on who you ask.
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1) Need to be on 2.3.4 in order to unlock bootloader. If ordering from sprint, it might already come with 2.3.5. Buy from eBay and make sure to have the seller confirm its on 2.3.4.
2) Its a world phone. Its only carrier locked in the united states. But there are ways around this.
3) As far as used price range, the GS2 is probably the closest mainstream competitor on sprint. Galaxy nexus being just a bit more expensive. But you lack world phone capabilities and the photon is arguably a better phone all around depending on who you ask.
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Thanks for that.
So if its 2.3.5, there's no way to unlock it? Something like Torpedo or 1 click unlock for Droid 3 would help?
lamborg said:
Thanks for that.
So if its 2.3.5, there's no way to unlock it? Something like Torpedo or 1 click unlock for Droid 3 would help?
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You can root 2.3.5. but not unlock currently.
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You can root 2.3.5. but not unlock currently.
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Ok so it means that I cannot flash custom ROMs right? But I can gain root access to modify the OS installed.
Thanks
lamborg said:
Ok so it means that I cannot flash custom ROMs right? But I can gain root access to modify the OS installed.
Thanks
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2.3.5. locked means you have to use locked roms or the phone will fail to boot.
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2.3.5. locked means you have to use locked roms or the phone will fail to boot.
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can you link me to something to read to understand what I can do/not do with root and what with unlock? I searched, got something but its quite confusing. What I understand is Root = admin access like but don't know about the unlock.
I think bootloader should be unlocked to install custom ROM but then there's something called fastboot which only requires Root. Confused here. BTW does Unlock means Unlocked Bootloader?
I want to know that if I have 2.3.5 can I install ICS or JB?
lamborg said:
can you link me to something to read to understand what I can do/not do with root and what with unlock? I searched, got something but its quite confusing. What I understand is Root = admin access like but don't know about the unlock.
I think bootloader should be unlocked to install custom ROM but then there's something called fastboot which only requires Root. Confused here. BTW does Unlock means Unlocked Bootloader?
I want to know that if I have 2.3.5 can I install ICS or JB?
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The rules are simple: You need to unlock the bootloader to install custom ROMs that use custom kernels. You can't unlock if you are on 2.3.5. You do not need to be unlocked to use custom ROMs that use STOCK kernels. We only have two ROMs that use stock kernels. The rest, including ICS and JB, use custom kernels so you need to be unlocked to use them.
Hi, I'm new to this device, as a matter of fact I don't have it yet, its in the mail....I purchased an HTC ONE Google Edition At&t phone and am going to use it on Straight Talk. I had a HOX+ but couldn't get WiFi tether to work and tried multiple Roms and other advice. Anyway, I was encouraged to get the ONE because there is a lot more development on it. I was wondering if I first UNLOCK the device from its carrier and ROOT it and get S-OFF, could I install an "International" RUU and firmware to get rid of any preconfigured settings to At&t and not COMPLETELY RUIN my device and still have LTE ?
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Hi, I'm new to this device, as a matter of fact I don't have it yet, its in the mail....I purchased an HTC ONE Google Edition At&t phone and am going to use it on Straight Talk. I had a HOX+ but couldn't get WiFi tether to work and tried multiple Roms and other advice. Anyway, I was encouraged to get the ONE because there is a lot more development on it. I was wondering if I first UNLOCK the device from its carrier and ROOT it and get S-OFF, could I install an "International" RUU and firmware to get rid of any preconfigured settings to At&t and not COMPLETELY RUIN my device and still have LTE ?
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yes you can just make sure you read and are comfortable with doing it because if you do it wrong you can brick your phone
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yes you can just make sure you read and are comfortable with doing it because if you do it wrong you can brick your phone
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Are there any Custom Roms already made from the Internation Build?
devo3d said:
Are there any Custom Roms already made from the Internation Build?
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you can use all of these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one
how do i root the htc one m8 I am familiar with rooting as i had a s4 rooted with gpe but i am confused with the htc one m8 plz help
xCellHD said:
how do i root the htc one m8 I am familiar with rooting as i had a s4 rooted with gpe but i am confused with the htc one m8 plz help
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How to root (with links) is explained on my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Also, much of the "HTC specific" lingo is explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527
I would suggest reading up (and making sure you understand all the terms and processes) for at least a couple hours before trying anything on the phone. I do this every time I buy a new device, even having own quite a few HTC phones. In fact, I usually start reading and researching before I have the phone in hand.
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also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
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also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
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If your talking about ROM, then take a full backup of your ROM before flashing custom ROM using titanium/nandroid etc.
Or if your talking about root,
Just unroot using unroot apps from play store or the respected app you get after rooting.
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also is there a way were i can go back to stock when i need to thanks
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As the above reply stated, it depends on what you are talking about.
If you just want the stock ROM, recovery, etc. one option is to relock the bootloader and just run the RUU. It will return you to stock software. The only thing not "stock" will be the bootloader will say RELOCKED instead of LOCKED. You need s-off to make it say LOCKED again (after unlocking it).
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so this is what i want to do i want to unlock bootloader then root which i know how to do but i was woundering would i be able to install this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/rom-sd-4-0-sense7-port-sdkernel-t3062367
would i be able to install that rom soon as i am done unlocking the bootloader and rooting or would i have extra stuff sorry for the dumb questions
xCellHD said:
so this is what i want to do i want to unlock bootloader then root which i know how to do but i was woundering would i be able to install this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/rom-sd-4-0-sense7-port-sdkernel-t3062367
would i be able to install that rom soon as i am done unlocking the bootloader and rooting or would i have extra stuff sorry for the dumb questions
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What are your current hboot and radio numbers?
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What are your current hboot and radio numbers?
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my hboot is 3.19 and my radio is [email protected]
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my hboot is 3.19 and my radio is [email protected]
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You should be good to go, then. Just unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery and flash the Skydragon ROM you linked.
would i need to be s-off and would i be able to go back stock and relock the bootloader with s-on again sorry for the manny questions i am new to this phone
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would i need to be s-off and would i be able to go back stock and relock the bootloader with s-on again sorry for the manny questions i am new to this phone
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You can return to stock with a RELOCKED bootloader with s-on.
You do need s-off if you want to make the bootloader say LOCKED as it was from the factory. But the only reason to ever do this is for warranty purposes. And if you bought the phone from AT&T, you should note that your warranty is through AT&T, not HTC. And AT&T doesn't give a crap if the bootloader is unlocked, or whatever (folks have even successfully sent in phones for warranty with custom ROMs on them).
If you are seeing warranty service through HTC (you didn't purchase from AT&T) that is another story. But that is the only reason I'd bother going back to LOCKED.
In normal usage, I recommend leaving the bootloader UNLOCKED as it give you more flexibility to flash ROMs whenever you want, etc. The only reason IMO to relock the bootloader in normal usage is to run the RUU.
S-off is nice have if you want to flash radios, modified hboots, and some other things (you also don't need to relock to RUU with s-off). It certainly doesn't hurt, and some folks like to make the phone as customizable as possible right away. In fact, I did s-off to the phone the second day I had it (although s-off was free back then). But for you, its not strictly "needed" at this time unless you want to do the things mentioned.
so heres the thing again sorry for the manny questions i am just making sure if i do this everything will work so heres the thing the rom i linked if i were to flash it will my at&t sevice work since it would be a different baseband
can you link me the latest twrp recovery for the at&t htc m8 so i can flash once i unlock the boatloader
xCellHD said:
can you link me the latest twrp recovery for the at&t htc m8 so i can flash once i unlock the boatloader
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https://twrp.me/devices/htconem8gsm.html
the latest twrp 2.8.6.0 should work with my at&t m8 ?
xCellHD said:
so heres the thing again sorry for the manny questions i am just making sure if i do this everything will work so heres the thing the rom i linked if i were to flash it will my at&t sevice work since it would be a different baseband
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The baseband isn't determined by the ROM, its determined by flashing a different baseband/radio (which requires s-off).
There are some folks that have had issues on AT&T's LTE network using some custom ROMs. Namely, not receiving or sending voice calls while on LTE. But this seems somewhat random, and not the ROMs fault per se; but probably changes that AT&T is making to their network. The most you can do is flash the Skydragon ROM, and if you have problems, try another ROM or revert to stock.
Make a backup of your stock ROM with TWRP before you flash anything, to be sure you have something to revert to if you have problems. This is good general advice before you flash any custom ROMs, root mods, etc.
I'm using the ROM your linked (Skydragon Sense 7) on AT&T, and it works fine for me.