So this is what happened. I work for Sprint and my manager hooked me up with an early Christmas gift. I had the EVO 3D and there was a time with Sprint where if you had a 3D and it had a malfunction they would replace it for you for free via the Exchange program for a EVO 4G LTE because there was a shortage of EVO 3D's. So he did that for me and bam I had an EVO 4G LTE. When the update came out I downloaded it excitedly and immediately after the download my phone has been frozen up. It will work temporarily if I do a simpull and then freeze again shortly after. I have done hard resets and cache wipes and I booted into the boatloader and reflashed the stock RUU (The PJIMG whatever it is) and it still does not work so I had my technician exchange it for me again and she offered me an S III instead via the exchange but I told her I still wanted an EVO...
I've been with HTC since the HTC Hero and always loved it. Did I make a bad choice though? Should I have instead gone with the S III? What do yall think?
TL;DR I had some problems with JB and have to have my phone exchanged and my technician offered me an S3 but I told her I want an EVO again did I make a bad decision.
I don't think you made a bad decision. You obviously prefer ht over Samsung. The evo and the s3 Have pretty similar specs. As long as you don't start having issues with the new evo, you made the right decision.
Yeah I just guess now my tech has got me worried that this new phone is gonna be messed up too. But TBH I think that the issue didn't sit so much with the software itself but the fact that the phone was a refurbished device and obviously had issues before.
But I loved my new EVO in the short time I had it. I just see some people here are so adamant about wanting to swap their EVO's for the S3 by any means.
i've been with htc since the touch pro, then OG Evo, now EVO LTE... I really like the EVO LTE, It's fast and handles pretty much anything I throw at it.... the few bugs it has are just really annoying... I'm stock with latest OTA at the moment. The new OTA made LTE connectivity better, but it also introduced a few new bugs... the hardware is great, i'm just not crazy with the stock software...
If I could do it all over again, I probably would have tried the S3 instead of the EVO.... I had no idea the S3 would become as popular as it has...
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So this is what happened. I work for Sprint and my manager hooked me up with an early Christmas gift. I had the EVO 3D and there was a time with Sprint where if you had a 3D and it had a malfunction they would replace it for you for free via the Exchange program for a EVO 4G LTE because there was a shortage of EVO 3D's. So he did that for me and bam I had an EVO 4G LTE. When the update came out I downloaded it excitedly and immediately after the download my phone has been frozen up. It will work temporarily if I do a simpull and then freeze again shortly after. I have done hard resets and cache wipes and I booted into the boatloader and reflashed the stock RUU (The PJIMG whatever it is) and it still does not work so I had my technician exchange it for me again and she offered me an S III instead via the exchange but I told her I still wanted an EVO...
I've been with HTC since the HTC Hero and always loved it. Did I make a bad choice though? Should I have instead gone with the S III? What do yall think?
TL;DR I had some problems with JB and have to have my phone exchanged and my technician offered me an S3 but I told her I want an EVO again did I make a bad decision.
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Sprint never offered the LTE for a malfunctioning 3D. If they did then I wouldn't have had to pay for mine after the 8th 3D stopped working and all they would offer me is an OG Evo or some garbage Samsung. This is one reason Sprint customer service is pure JUNK. The lies, the constant changes in policy, the rudeness, and favoritism. You liked the hero? The worst smartphone ever made? I almost got a flipphone after my experience with the 'hero.' Anyway, I would've went with the S3. Only because I'm sick of HTC and Sense.
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I agree about the exchange. Never is a device replaced that way. If they do you are lucky I guess. Evo got replaced with 3d or photon because with that flagship they really didn't have anything on the same level at the time. 3ds and Photons are normally switched for each other and if your lucky they will give the s2 or Galaxy Nexus. What I'm trying to say is no way does a normal customer off the street walk in with a 3d and exchange for a LTE. There are to many lower end devices with its specs to replace it with. You Boss really did bless you for Christmas! The onley other way I can figure is many Sprint has an exchange agreement with HTC.
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i've been with htc since the touch pro, then OG Evo, now EVO LTE... I really like the EVO LTE, It's fast and handles pretty much anything I throw at it.... the few bugs it has are just really annoying... I'm stock with latest OTA at the moment. The new OTA made LTE connectivity better, but it also introduced a few new bugs... the hardware is great, i'm just not crazy with the stock software...
If I could do it all over again, I probably would have tried the S3 instead of the EVO.... I had no idea the S3 would become as popular as it has...
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So you're saying you would have gotten the SIII if you knew it would be so popular. what other people buy is what informs your preference? I really hope that's not what you're saying, because that's really sad and misguided, and kind of, well.... I just won't say.
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No you didn't make the wrong decision. Stick with the Evo 4G LTE. Remember YOU messed the phone up by whatever method you performed upgrading to JellyBean. Yes it has a few issues but what phone doesn't. My daughter has the SIII and I got to play around with it for a few hours. Im sorry but I still like the Evo better.
PS How did you not know the SIII was gonna be so popular? It was and still is the most widely advertised phone out there. And also you can't go by what is popular, just because it is popular doesn't make it a good phone by all means.
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So you're saying you would have gotten the SIII if you knew it would be so popular. what other people buy is what informs your preference? I really hope that's not what you're saying, because that's really sad and misguided, and kind of, well.... I just won't say.
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Thanks for the snide comment. I'm sorry I didnt explain my point well enough. When you have two android phones that are almost identical spec-wise (EVO LTE & SIII) ... I'm going to want the one with a larger user base.... because generally speaking more users means more development for the device... since I do plan on rooting my phone eventually. If I am incorrect by stating this, then I apologize.
When I bought the EVO LTE launch day I compared it to the SIII and since they were so close spec-wise, I went with HTC because of my good past experience with HTC phones.
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Sprint never offered the LTE for a malfunctioning 3D. If they did then I wouldn't have had to pay for mine after the 8th 3D stopped working and all they would offer me is an OG Evo or some garbage Samsung. This is one reason Sprint customer service is pure JUNK. The lies, the constant changes in policy, the rudeness, and favoritism. You liked the hero? The worst smartphone ever made? I almost got a flipphone after my experience with the 'hero.' Anyway, I would've went with the S3. Only because I'm sick of HTC and Sense.
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Someone sounds angry. And it wasn't a formal policy. Just something that could be done depending on the situation and if the evo 3d was in stock at the time of your issue. As well as if you were pleasant to the rep or a jerk...
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Also the more popular device gets more accessories.
But i still like the Evo a lot.
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Best buy replaced my 3d with an lte for free :thumbup:
Nice try buddies.
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Sprint never offered the LTE for a malfunctioning 3D. If they did then I wouldn't have had to pay for mine after the 8th 3D stopped working and all they would offer me is an OG Evo or some garbage Samsung. This is one reason Sprint customer service is pure JUNK. The lies, the constant changes in policy, the rudeness, and favoritism. You liked the hero? The worst smartphone ever made? I almost got a flipphone after my experience with the 'hero.' Anyway, I would've went with the S3. Only because I'm sick of HTC and Sense.
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No you didn't make the wrong decision. Stick with the Evo 4G LTE. Remember YOU messed the phone up by whatever method you performed upgrading to JellyBean. Yes it has a few issues but what phone doesn't. My daughter has the SIII and I got to play around with it for a few hours. Im sorry but I still like the Evo better.
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So no offense to all of you but you're basically all wrong.... YES in November they did have that offer at our store because of an issue with the EVO 3D's and replacing them so they offered something comparable and since they can't go back to the first EVO they sent out an EVO 4G LTE to me. That's how I got my phone and that's how my manager got one as well. So it was a legitimate program. I work for Sprint okay so don't try to big league me here bro I think I know what I'm talking about.
And I have always been stock so my phone wasn't messed up by my own tweaking with it. I simply downloaded the OTA update on the 13th and it killed my phone. I wouldn't say that's my fault. But regardless the replacement is on its way so stop hating.
Stop turning my topic into self-loathing because you're not happy with the choices you made in your life...
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Not to gloat - just setting the record straight here. My local repair center exchanged my 3D for a LTE. I know it's not common, but it happens.
Just sayen.
I think you have the better phone. I much prefer the HTC build and the super lcd2 to the amoled screen on the Sammy.
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To the people saying that phones are never replaced with greater phones. I had my og evo and towards the eol of the phone they started replacing the phones for free for a 3d. No contract extension or anything. See mah thread here
I've had my Mogul replaced with an HTC Touch & my Touch for a Touch Diamond.
Even way back when, it was possible. My experience each time, was in-store
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Well I'm glad I have people here who agree with me and who also had pleasant replacement experiences. But hey I got my new EVO in and it's working great no issues so far I updated to JB at the store to make sure. ALL ACES HERE!!
People say the s3 is better because it has sold more more units. I dont get this because a evo lte is only on sprint, so of course it hasnt sold as many units as a phone on every carrier. Screen, build quality, and sense keeps the evo in my hands.
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I am so excited for 100 bucks I basically get to upgrade to this dual core beast! You should see the pictures of my evo it still functions I will take some pics and show everyone how destroyed my PC36100 is
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nice, thats how I got my 3D, I was pretty shocked when it said they were shipping me a 3D... I actually got one that was brand new in the box, instead of one that was Refurbished by Asurion like they ususally do... felt good getting to upgrade for only $100 and not having to extend my contract was a plus for sure... you'll love your 3D... ive had mine for almost 4 months. and Its a killer phone.
That's how I upgraded my phones for years. I went from the Mogul to the Touch Pro to the Touch Pro 2. Maybe I'll get an opportunity this year on whatever the next big thing is.
Yeah that's how I got mines too since Sprint wouldn't fix my charging port on my OG Evo, but oh well enjoying my 3D, & mine was brand new also with 1.30 hboot
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Whats funny is if you head over to the evo4g forum youll see people NOT happy about this change and the fact its happening b/c the 4G got put on their EOL list so no more of them being made.
thought it was funny people over there were talking about going and getting another one just incase b/c they didn't want a 3D. lol loony
That's how I got my 3d too. I'm happy with it. I missed my og evo for a few days but after using the 3evo for awhile Im glad I got upgraded.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Aw, that sucks. We just made a claim on my wife's 4g on friday and they sent us a 4g. It would make my life substantially easier if I only had to support one type of phone instead of two.
they sent me an eve 4g on my replacement but the bottom led's didn't light up properly so i called and then they said they would send out another replacement and that was the 3d so if u want try to find something stupid to complain about thte replacement and it will give you another whirl at getting a 3d without paying another 100
Yea. Someone stole my White 4G at Albertsons. When I filed the claim I got the message that they had no White 4Gs in stock so they were substituting the Standard 3D. At first all I saw was "Standard" and was disappointed that I wasn't getting another White phone. Then I noticed the "3D" and decided I would suffer through...
Huge thread on this! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318308
Swyped from mah 3vo!
Hey everyone, most of you will know me from the Evo 4G, I am the creator of Azrael X and Stock Turbo ROMS. I loved my Evo 4G and I loved developing ROMS for it. I was due for Upgrade in July of last year, just in time to get the Evo 3D. I was excited because of the Specs of the Evo 3D and traded "up" for my "amazing Evo 3D". To be honest, I wish I had held out for the Samsung GS-II or switched to Verizon now!
Here is the issues I have had with the Evo 3D.
My first one: I take good care of my phones, I think in all the time I had my Evo 4G I dropped it once and it was in a case so no damage. One day, I went to use my Evo 3D's camera to take a picture of something funny to send to my friends. Well, my phone became unresponsive and then my phone's display got corrupted. I tried all the troubleshooting steps, redid the phone ROM, hard reset, EVERYTHING. No dice and I heard that sometimes the camera gets disconnected and you can press real hard and it will work again. Ironically I did that and it worked once, the next day I went to use the camera and it did it again, froze the phone for a few minutes and corrupted the display. So I went to a Sprint service center and they "could not fix it, my replacement would be ordered and I can pick it up in a few days." So I get my replacement and...
I get a replacement with Hboot 1.50: Hboot 1.50 really sucks, that is all there is to it. HTC lets you root your phone...for a price! You void your warranty (not completely but it's more or less at the discretion of the Sprint employee if your covered by warranty or not if you bring it in for service with an issue) and it's not even a full root! You cannot flash kernels or radios without jumping through hoops and your phone is not S-Off. There is no current method to get S-Off with Hboot 1.50 and all attempts thus far have failed. Why could they have not just fixed my camera on my original one? This is livable with but has taken away the desire from me to develop ROMS for this phone. Then there is the....
Other issues with my replacement Evo 3D: The new one likes to restart itself randomly. It actually caused me to nearly late for work one morning because my carefully set alarm went off when it decided to restart itself. Thankfully I woke up by myself and was able to rush, get ready, and barely make it! I no longer rely on it as my alarm unless there is nothing else available. This NEVER happened with my Evo 4G, it reliably served as my alarm. Then there is...
CIQ: Sprint and HTC are spying on you; even a tinfoil hat will not prevent them from logging your phone usage. I mean, I am sure there are ways that all phones and carriers can do this, but where did I sign a form that allows them to monitor my usage? Not to mention this logging still eats up memory, CPU cycles, and battery. Even if they took this out now, not to mention developers found ways to rip out CIQ innards from the phone, this is a lameness that I cannot fathom. Then there is....
Sprint:
They removed the "Sprint Premier" program, which is really stupid. Now you have to wait 2 full years to get an upgraded phone.
The Network seems worse than ever. 4G coverage around the south suburbs of Chicago is bad at best, not there at worst. There are a couple of dead spots I always hit on the way home from work on 294.
Rude employees at Sprint. I ended up talking to a lady who kept interrupting me and laughed at me when I said something about that. I have never said, "F%$ you" to a lady on the phone until then. I actually said that and hung up, I was fuming! (UPDATE: Yes I know any company has good and bad reps and it's always a chance you will get one or the other, but she took the cake for the rudest CS rep I have dealt with from any company maybe ever. It was not just what she said, it was how she handled my questions. I should also mention she is a manager.)
Other things that I do not like about the Evo 3D.
The Speakerphone: Both Evo 3D phones I have had have mediocre speakers. The first one is way quieter and has NO bass compared to my former Evo 4G. Minor but noticeable.
The signal: This may have been "early teething" problems but my Evo 4G seemed to pull in signal much better than the Evo 3D. This could be because of premature radio and PRL updates at the time but I would be interested now to see how they compare. My Evo 4G would have 5 bars while the 3D would have 1-3 bars.
The charger port: The Evo 4G was nice because the charging port was right on the bottom of the phone. This made it easy to charge it while you mess with the phone and/or want to charge and talk at the same time. The Evo 3D has the charger port on the upper-left side. If you attempt to charge and talk, you are putting stress on your cable and the port itself. Stupid placement IMO.
Less tinker friendly: Besides the already mentioned Hboot 1.5 (partial root and partial warranty breaker) you cannot use the volume or power buttons while the cover is off. This is of course REALLY being nitpicky as there is not much need for it. But when you need access to the battery, having to take the back off every time is an extra step.
Of course, the Evo 3D is a better phone than the Evo 4G as far as hardware specs and screen quality. I just wish it was better in almost all ways instead of just specs.
The good of the Evo 3D is quite numerous of course.
The specs
The 3D features are neat
Increased memory
The screen slightly better quality
No more light bleeding like on the Evo 4G
Hboot 1.5 is a stupid means of control and I cannot believe we void our warranty for the sake of a half-ass root! I had aspirations for Azrael X 3D but honestly I feel the Evo 3D has some great ROMS already and Hboot 1.5 is a big deal breaker for me.
I might have to pass on HTC and Sprint too next time around.
More on the next post, but I want to know if anyone else has buyers (and/or Sprint) remorse lately. I am thinking of moving to "Big Red" network.
Luckily I haven't experienced any of the issues you seem to be going through. I would recommend calling or stopping by sprint and have your replacement swapped out. Who knows you might get lucky and get one with 1.4, good luck man hope it works out.
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I would definitely push them to get you a replacement, it sounds like they gave you another defective one. If they give you a hard time about it showing "relocked" shoot me a PM and I may be able to help you out.
Man what's up. I remember your Roms and work for the EVO4G. Deff top notch.
Personally I don't have buyers remorse as mine has been great here no issues hardware wise.
As for the things you mentioned with sprint itself like the premier program...I'm with ya on that 100%. Hate it that they took that away. BUT according to the Sprint Advocates group that has conf calls with execs each month, Sprint has been researching a new loyalty program to replace it with to reward those of us again. Maybe the buy your upgrade back trial program is a slight form of it, though I know they have discussed more.
As for leaving sprint if you head to big red you pretty might end up with only getting Samsung phones as they have announced their stance on bootloaders and I wouldn't be shocked to see their future HTC phones not on the unlock list...
Personally i can't beat the price here and I really want to stick around with Sprint and see these NetworkVision deployments because network wise they will improve things 10 fold in many areas. The mere backhaul improvement being done at the towers is a giant leap in itself.
S4GRU.com has a ton of very very detailed info, a lot inside info too on this. Great site btw, any Sprint customer interested in the network and such I suggest heading over there and reading the enormous amount of detailed info they have, including some spectrum analysis...
Saw you mentioned Chicago specifically so I linked the two wall posts that discuss some info on that area specifically for ya.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...nd-lte-deployment-details-emerge-for-chicago/
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
As far as the customer service, that's a shame man and you really can't defend them for that.
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Hey ric, I thought you disappeared! I used to love your 4g roms. That sucks you've had so many issues. Good to see you're alive though.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Hey, I'm in the Chicago area too and I know there can be dead spots and sprint is the slowest of the carriers it seems. Where I'm at though, service is incredible. The Crestwood area. But I can't venture out too far before I see speeds drop. Signal strength seems to stay strong everywhere I go though. And I don't even bother using 4G. I can get it at home but not much anywhere else. And with wifi at home, what's the point? But I'm still happy with the service.
The phone I love too. I dropped it a couple times while in a case, no damage. Phone doesn't reboot, everything is responsive, etc. Maybe your replacement has something wrong with it.
Now, I did see lots of problems on custom roms or kernels or both for some reason. I trust the developers know what they're doing and I'm not a developer so I don't know why there were so many issues then. I didn't try every rom or kernel, but the popular ones I did always restarted and froze on my phone. It was like clock work. So I've stuck to the stock setup with some mods on top of it and have 0 problems.
As for CIQ goes, sprint removed it in the latest update I believe. But I wouldn't put it past then if there's some other way they're tracking us. Since the removal of ciq, things perform world's better too.
I won't get too into their customer service but I have had some really friendly support and I've had some that clearly don't enjoy their job but weren't rude to me. It happens everywhere.
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Sucks that you are having so many issues, my 3d has been rock solid but sprints data in my home town is horrible. Stuck in a contract til mid 2013. Hoping to see some improvement by then with the upcoming lte. Although i dont see much about florida in their upcoming deployments. Think i read awhile back about Miami, but that was it. Best wishes to you and hope things improve for all of us with sprint issues.
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CIQ is indeed removed, since the January 13th update. Most phone manufacturers and Sprint are working with eachother to remove CIQ if it hasn't been already. Be glad you didn't go with Samsung, I've had so many with issues it's not funny. If you are mad about a camera issue on HTC, wait till you see what Samsung can give you. Late (if ever updates), radio issues, physical KB keypress skips, crashing camera, you name it (depending on the model). The SII is lambasted with problems galore, google it. It sucks that the HTC is locked down more, but IMO, it's not like a Samsung so it's not entirely necessary to root because the phone itself doesn't have major experience killing issues.
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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i second this what the hell is going on nothing that was said was terrible.. explain ur reasoning >:O
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Freedom of speech does not apply on a forum.
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"Freedom of Speech" doesn't always comply with XDA forum policies.
You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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I don't know what was said here but many of the rules here could be used to limit your speech and rightfully so. For example the rule 2.4...
Regardless PM the mod or a mod and ask, and you'll likely get an answer.
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I feel compelled to reply an I never post I have like 3 maybe IDk. Reading your post you sound very frustrated I get that been there but you are/were a custom rom developer?? How many cell carriers have you been with?
I was with Verizon for years they do not give a **** about any of their customers. They are more expensive for everything and they will nickel and dime you anyway they can. Verizon does not have blazing fast data 24/7 that covers every square inch of the USA.
They dropped sprint premiere, so what if you call sales they will upgrade you almost anytime you wanna buy a new phone an lock you down for two more years. Sprint buys back phones they always have some deal or incentive goin on. You buy a Verizon phone you aren't getting an upgrade for two yrs forget it.
Yea its not uncommon to talk to an idiot on the phone I myself as soon as I hear an accent not of the English language ask to speak someone else because I cannot understand them but you own a phone that they prob couldn't buy with their whole weeks paycheck.
I've had all the issues that you have with reboots freezes and whatnot no camera probs this is my 4th one. But hey they have replaced them with no hassle I've been offered other phones the photon for example which I passed on.
Idk what else you ask of them when they replace the defective product you can't justify getting mad at them for replacing a defective device with the lastest and least defective software.
THIS PHONE IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE EVO4G which I had several of those I shattered the screen multiple times on all of them from dropping it. The speaker was a joke sure it was louder than the 3d until it blew the **** out. The 3D is sturdy and durable no problems from dropping not even a scratch on the screen I use no cases or protectors. Usb charging port is pathetic pos on EVO4g. 3D came out 1 year after 4G pretty dam good phone. There's nothing mind blowing that has come out since the 3D release I just don't get it. Were just now starting to see the next wave of technology that will soon outshine the phone.
Every other electronic device that you modify through software or hardware not provided by the OEM voids the warranty why does everyone feel cell phone manufactures/carriers shouldn't its just mind boggling. If you're fedup an rdy to tell sprint **** you kiss my ass it ain't always greener on the otherside even if its red.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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I have no idea what you said but I am guessing your post was a typical "retaliation" thread against mine and maybe the mods removed it so this post does not become a back and forth. But 30 posts about how they removed your threads are taking THIS thread off subject, so please stick to the subject matter.
A lot of people reply to posts with counter arguments but many go overboard. Maybe you did and they removed it? I can only speculate....
Anyhow, you can disagree with me of course but keep it clean. I opened this post with MY feelings, if yours differ offer counter arguments but no need to be rude (not saying your reply was rude, but seems there was something up with it).
I added to my first post now with more information
Loved your roms on the 4G, basically the only reason I responded to this thread (usually stay away from xda now). Sorry about the problems you are having.
Hopefully you find a phone and a carrier that treats you as well as your last phone.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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Hi Ric, I also loved your roms on the EVO 4G too. I also made the switch to red, not because of the EVO 3D. I loved the phone and it's a solid phone but I didn't have a 1.5 hboot either. I might have felt differently if I had one. I as you did got tired of watching my coverage get worse. I'm not that far from you and I was paying for 4G coverage and hardly getting it . Some may disagree but I felt my 4G was better when I had my OG EVO. I'm no longer under "unlimited" data but is sprint truly "unlimited" when there's threads about guys getting cancelled for using too much data when it's "unlimited"..Just my .02. I'm sure in true XDA fashion someone will say "good riddance" or "cool story bro" but I'm a forum veteran and have seen it all on forums of all types. If it helps with your choice I'm loving the 4GLTE coverage Ric.
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Which would u choose? I'm figthin the urge to go buy the galaxy nexus Sunday I love the photon and thinking it may be better to wait on a fully functional stable joker rom cuz I miss hbo go...I don't really believe Motorola is actually gonna update this phone to ICS in the future and I'm not worried about LTE just yet I'll jump on that train when it actually rolls out in my area
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Which would u choose? I'm figthin the urge to go buy the galaxy nexus Sunday I love the photon and thinking it may be better to wait on a fully functional stable joker rom cuz I miss hbo go...I don't really believe Motorola is actually gonna update this phone to ICS in the future and I'm not worried about LTE just yet I'll jump on that train when it actually rolls out in my area
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Absolutely positively zero question, the Galaxy nexus all the way.
My friend has one, I've spent extensive time using it. Simply the best phone I've ever used, it was phone of the year last year.
Also, being a Nexus phone - you will get the first updates for new OS'es . My sisters Nexus S got ICS already. Effen Motorola said what... November?
Jokers work is awesome, and I thank him profusely. I hope Motorola hires him!
For me, this phone is a red headed stepchild. Moto only cars about Verizon customers. I'm never buying a moto phone again.
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Absolutely positively zero question, the Galaxy nexus all the way.
My friend has one, I've spent extensive time using it. Simply the best phone I've every used, it was phone of the year last year.
Also, being a Nexus phone - you will get the first updates for new OS'es . My sisters Nexus S got ICS already. Effen Motorola said what... November?
Jokers work is awesome, and I thank him profusely. I hope Motorola hires him!
For me, this phone is a red headed stepchild. Moto only cars about Verizon customers. I'm never buying a moto phone again.
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The Nexus is already obsolete. I'd wait and see what the Galaxy SIII has to offer when Samsung makes the announcement on May 3. I'm not impressed by Sprint's verison of the HTC One X. HTC lost me after releasing that piece of crap Evo 3D (always losing signal and roaming). And according to the FCC test results, the radio in the EVO 4G LTE seems to be crappy as well.
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galaxy nexus is be OK,I think that..
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The Nexus is already obsolete. I'd wait and see what the Galaxy SIII has to offer when Samsung makes the announcement on May 3. I'm not impressed by Sprint's verison of the HTC One X. HTC lost me after releasing that piece of crap Evo 3D (always losing signal and roaming). And according to the FCC test results, the radio in the EVO 4G LTE seems to be crappy as well.
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Have you not been paying attention to all the Epic 4G Touch issues? For months the phone would just randomly drop service without letting you know and you had to reboot to restore it. The radio in it is garbage on top of that. The Photon radio is a serious step up. Every single phone Samsung has released for Sprint has had major issues.
I really dont like my Photon and it will be the last Motorola phone I buy. My wife has a DroidX2 Global on Verizon and its a piece of crap too. She's probably going to go to an iPhone (Its her work phone and they have discontinued Android devides so its either iPhone or BB) and Im going to get a HTC One when it comes up for sale on Sprint. Maybe Ill give her my Photon for her Sprint line. She has an OG Epic she uses on Sprint but she probably hasnt made 10 calls on it in a year.
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The Nexus is already obsolete. I'd wait and see what the Galaxy SIII has to offer when Samsung makes the announcement on May 3. I'm not impressed by Sprint's verison of the HTC One X. HTC lost me after releasing that piece of crap Evo 3D (always losing signal and roaming). And according to the FCC test results, the radio in the EVO 4G LTE seems to be crappy as well.
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I'd hardly call it obsolete. Yes S3 series is going to get announced. HTC and Moto lost me, and a pure google with with no crappy skin is awesome.
Also, the Nexus community have dialed the roms in for that phone like race cars. The Roms and kernels are awesome.
Interesting about phones.. 5 months is considered obsolete. My intel i7-920 overclocked to 3.8Ghz is still an awesome computer. They chip was launched in 08.
My 2 cents!
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Have you not been paying attention to all the Epic 4G Touch issues? For months the phone would just randomly drop service without letting you know and you had to reboot to restore it. The radio in it is garbage on top of that. The Photon radio is a serious step up. Every single phone Samsung has released for Sprint has had major issues.
I really dont like my Photon and it will be the last Motorola phone I buy. My wife has a DroidX2 Global on Verizon and its a piece of crap too. She's probably going to go to an iPhone (Its her work phone and they have discontinued Android devides so its either iPhone or BB) and Im going to get a HTC One when it comes up for sale on Sprint. Maybe Ill give her my Photon for her Sprint line. She has an OG Epic she uses on Sprint but she probably hasnt made 10 calls on it in a year.
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The Photon is the best piece of hardware Sprint has to offer right now.
The Galaxy Nexus is just a tweaked Galaxy SII. I was a big HTC fan until the EVO 3D and I know Samsung phones aren't known for stellar radio performance, neither does HTC.
I'm waiting on the Galaxy SIII, but back to the OP's question.
I would go with a Galaxy Nexus because the display is absolutely gorgeous.
I owned one for a few weeks. Took it back because I'm on the edge of 2 Verizon LTE towers and would lose signal quite often. I know it's not isolated to the Nexus because a friend of mine owns the Verizon equivalent of the Photon (can't remember the name right now) and has the same LTE issues problem.
i been kickin around the same idea, and this EVO LTE is looking even better with a 1.5 GHz processor!?!?!
BUT.... i look back on the pros and cons
If i switch to the Nexus or EVO LTE
Pros(even tho they end up sounding like cons
-Faster Processor (even tho we have 1.3 OC i still clock down to 1.0, so not too powerful of persuasion.
-LTE - BUT... sprint is adding this technology and it will be WIP.
Screen - no doubt its a better screen, BUT it will probably chew more power
-1080p camera (but the devs are working on this for the photon)
-Official ICS (BUT id end up wiping out and flashing CM9 so im back to where i am now)
-Lighter - this is one pro that i cant argue, the EVO LTE is a feather!
-Front camera - 1.3 v vga (not a biggy for me)
Cons
-Only CDMA, less radios, less cell signal probably
-$$$ it will take a few bills outta my pocket
-phone is bigger and will be bigger in the jeans pocket
-more attractive to be stolen at the gym
when i rethink everything through, i honesty am more tempted to go buy a second photon for backup. The photon is not at a huge hardware disadvantage. software wise... just think how fast joker has done what he has done with using code out of the air. Im sittin my fat ass down with the photon for a long time.
Once or IF sprint ever comes back out with a worldwide android phone that can beat the Photon in the ring, THEN ill switch over. but for now, the photon has too great of devs, and amazing radios that i cant ignore. a phone is for communications, and without great radios, well... your SOL.
my 2 cents
Just hope this great devs don't switch over to an lte phone lol
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alot of great points being brought up i swore to myself i would never buy another samsung phone because i had a terrible experience with the epic touch signal wise i just didn't get the same signal i got with my photon in the exact same spots no arguing that. i would love to get the evo lte too BUT intergrated battery is too iphone-ish for me and i feel like it will be a HUGE disadvantage to rooters and another way for sprint to **** with me and take more money out my pocket if my phone gets screwed up if motorola werent on verizons jock i would wait for them to come out with a lte phone...by the way do you guys think that googles purchase of motorola will eventually lead to a Motorola manufactured Nexus? how awsome would that be
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Easy choice. The Galaxy Nexus. As much as I love the Photon, people need to look beyond the software UI when choosing a phone. Galaxy Nexus has LTE capability, Photon has Wimax capability. Wimax is on its way out while LTE is on its way in. The LTE footprint by Sprint will be nationwide whereas the Wimax footprint is standing put.
Get the Galaxy Nexus because even joker's rom is stock ICS which is what the galaxy nexus is anyways except you will get LTE capability at some point in the future depending on which market you live in.
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alot of great points being brought up i swore to myself i would never buy another samsung phone because i had a terrible experience with the epic touch signal wise i just didn't get the same signal i got with my photon in the exact same spots no arguing that. i would love to get the evo lte too BUT intergrated battery is too iphone-ish for me and i feel like it will be a HUGE disadvantage to rooters and another way for sprint to **** with me and take more money out my pocket if my phone gets screwed up if motorola werent on verizons jock i would wait for them to come out with a lte phone...by the way do you guys think that googles purchase of motorola will eventually lead to a Motorola manufactured Nexus? how awsome would that be
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Im with you there. I might be willing to try the Note but at this point, who knows if its coming or not.
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Jokers work is awesome, and I thank him profusely. I hope Motorola hires him!
For me, this phone is a red headed stepchild. Moto only cars about Verizon customers. I'm never buying a moto phone again.
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why would they hire him?
And if you look at the amount of sold units between Vz and Sprint you would see why Moto caters to Vz. Sprint is no longer considered an Class A service provider by any OM.
photon all the way. with miui its a fantastic phone. and wouldnt trade if for anything. and yes. more is to come with this phone. it can only get better
How is a less functional phone fantastic? No 4G, no MMS
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How is a less functional phone fantastic? No 4G, no MMS
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How is a less functional phone fantastic? No 4G, no MMS[/QUO
I think he was thinking in terms of a fully functional ics rom and as far as 4g goes more people don't have it anyway
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My post was in response to the MIUI comment
Sorry I thought I quoted the post.
ICS is pretty cool but it should not be the primary driver in making this decision. The Photon is already running CM9 and it will get official ICS support later this year. You need to compare specs between these two phones and match them to your lifestyle. Me, I live in a suburban area where the signal strength is only OK. I used to get a decent signal outside and in different spots within my house but now that I have a Photon that has all changed. I get signal almost everywhere. I don't have 4G in my area so I'm able to run CM9 as my daily driver with zero complaints. In my opinion the Photon is superior but if I lived in the middle of Manhattan I'd probably be rocking a Galaxy Nexus because the city's coverage is much better and Manhattan will get LTE.
The Galaxy Nexus and Photon are really apples and oranges. One is a Wimax phone while the other is an LTE phone. There are some areas with both types of 4G, but for the most part if you're not in the buildout you'd be stuck with 3G data. One is $150 on craigslist and the other is $200 on contract.
Its better to compare the Galaxy Nexus to the HTC EVO 4G LTE. In that respect, the only advantage to the Galaxy Nexus is being a Google-supported device. That really doesn't mean much to me, since Google has shown that they only care about one generation past, and ICS only just came to the Nexus S 4G last week, even the HTC Sensation and the international Galaxy S2 got ICS before that.
Even if you have a fully functional Photon with ICS though, which doesn't exist, the Galaxy Nexus is still better. And you better be prepared to pay $400+ more for the privilege.
Over the last year I have been having many problems with my Evo 3d, I am on my 4th replacement device and even this one is having many problems. Today I went to my local Sprint store and as soon as I walked in they just said "Another one?" I was about to down grade to a different phone the options were , Samsung Galaxy Epic (Original galaxy s) and the original Evo 4g (wimax) but this time the rep told me that for some reason the HTC Evo 4G LTE was now a replacement that they could order for me, I dont know if it will work out in the end but I am hopeful.
Just thought this might be interesting to someone.
I went through the same crap. I LOVE my Evo 3D, but it's not what I use these days. I had to deal with a very rude 3rd party Sprint store that accused me of disassembling it. The mismatched screw is on all of the Evo 3D's I've ever seen. I'm now on Tmobile *not by choice* lol, and on the HTC One S. I have constant radio issues now, still on a quest for the perfect phone
A user on another site got a GS3 as his replacement.
That's what I was hoping for but I'll take what I can get
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Yea, it's nothing to do with the phone itself, it's the company Sprint uses to "refurbish" their phones. When I had the original Evo 4g, I went through SEVEN refurbished phones, ALL of them had some MAJOR flaw, bad screen, bad pixels, vibrate not working, one came literally in two pieces (the screen wasnt glued/screwed down). I believe sprint's policy is if they have given you 3 refurbs, and you still are having problems, they will give you a brand new phone.
Now, do NOT accept a galaxy 1 or an evo 4g, those are downgrades. They HAVE to provide you with an equal or better phone. The 4g LTE or Galaxy s3 are probably the only two phones out now that are completely comparable.
I planned on taking my 3D to Sprint tomorrow because my digitizer is going out again. It also reboots on its own sometimes. 6-8 months ago i had a digitizer problem and they replaced the digitizer. 3-4 Months ago I had the reboot issue and all they did was restore it without even asking me first. Made me so mad!
I don't think I will be fortunate enough to get an SG3 or Evo LTE... But does anyone have any tips on getting it?
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I've been through 8 total I think.... Bad screens, bad power buttons, one was literally about to fall apart. I went through their multiple device exchange and they could only offer me the 4g, epic, conquer, or the shift. I literally laughed at them and said I'll take my chances with another 3d. So here I am with horrible light bleed and a screen that actually makes sound when I press it back into the phone. F#ck sprint if this is how they treat their customers... Been with them for a decade, three lines, and have had tep for the last 5 years. I'm going to straight talk asap.
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Just got home with the evo 4G lte, they said it was luck that there was one of these available who knows
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I think I'm going in to complain about constant reboots and demand a replacement. Hopefully, I too can come out with the evo lte.
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I'm interested in some feedback on this. I used to love HTC. Had the touch pro, touch pro 2, evo4g and the evo 3d. All fantastic. I wasn't impressed with the evo lte, so I got the s3 on the black Friday deal.
She is certain the evo lte is a great phone that will keep her happy for two years, like the original evo has. It seems everything I've read says otherwise and I'm looking for some first hand experience.
Cost is an issue, but I don't want her locked in a contract with a piece of garbage. She is not a geek and her evo isn't even rooted.
Thanks for any thoughts.
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I have had an LTE and there are 4-5 around work and they all love them.. Great battery and fast.
I would buy one all over again!
Couldn't see getting an evo and keeping it for two years without it being rooted. Great phone but not out of the box
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Let me put it this way... Mine is stock, and only rooted to use adblock and T backup. I am in charge of Mobility at a very large company, and I can use any device I wish from any vendor whenever I want. I currently have an iPad, a Nexus 7, an iPhone 5, an HTC "Titan II" Windows phone, and an Evo 4G LTE (all corporate owned, but they pay my bills). My assistant just IM'd me to ask if I wanted him to send over the new One X (the answer is yes of course). My wife owns an SIII.
I'm saying all this to make this point: My daily driver is the EVO, and I expect it will remain so for now, even with the new One X and the S4. I really like it that much. The performance is better than my Nexus 7, I love the kickstand and the expandable RAM, and the camera is very important to me (I'm reading the new X One is so-so in normal light).
So there you have it... from someone that could have anything, I prefer my EVO. Maybe for dumb reasons, but that's my vote.
thanks for all the feedback, feel much better about the whole thing now
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I've had mine for almost a year now, and I'm happy with it. I would by another one if I had to do it over again.
It may have some quirks, but what phone doesn't? I had to do the LTE airplane dance in the beginning, but with a few radio updates and better LTE coverage, that has become a thing of the past.
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Your wife is correct. I love my LTE. Great phone IMO.
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The EVO is a great phone. Was well worth it when I got it but I still don't have hardly any lte in my area so sticking with my 3D until I was upgrade eligible would've been my best bet.
I have had all the phones u listed and now have LTE. By far the best of them all. I am very pleased with mine.
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I'll trade you my Evo lte for your s3. And then you get the HTC one. Lol
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Love my Evo. I would get the One if I wasn't so far from my upgrade but whatever. No complaints here.
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I know the point has been made, but I definitely second that emotion ...I don't know, I think anyone who loves the Original Evo4g, or anyone coming from the original Evo, will fall in love with this phone. It's like it's the same exact phone but with all these great improvements, yet still remaining the same good ole Evo4g...(as opposed to some of the various other attempts at "improving" the original Evo4g ie Evo3d, etc.).
Although, like many here I too am very interested in checking out the One(m7) as I haven't gotten to hold it in hand yet, and it sounds impressive...But somehow, I got the feeling I'll be with this EvoLTE for a long while to come. I've absolutely loved it since day one....BTW..I too could have any phone(Sprint anyways I want, I work with them everyday, and I'm not tied into a contract) but for me this is the one.
No regrets on LTE, love this phone. It will be going to Fiancé here shortly when One Black drops, she has been happy with her HTC shift for a while now, but is slowly going downhill. For me I just have to be on latest. For buying a new phone I can't imagine why someone would choose LTE over One, price difference is negligible.
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If you don't have lte, or expect it in the near future I would go with the Evo lte because it has the about to do data and voice at the same time.
The new One, does not have svdo so you can't do them at the same time.
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First off, what kinds of responses did you expect coming into a Evo LTE forum? You're gonna get positive reviews. That said, if she loved her OG Evo not even rooted, she will LOVE this device. The svdo is nice to have, too.
Also, as for not having LTE any time soon,...my area wasn't even on s4grus' radar for soon, and I started getting it last week.
Lastly, the guy who said he hasn't held a One in hand yet, I did today, without being tethered by a cable. It was amazing, the feel in hand was so natural and awesome. Getting it ASAMFP.
Your wife will love this device. My only complaint is the overly aggressive background task killing, and not comfortable to hold (I Dont use a case, but a case does fix that). For some reason, on the LTE, I feel compelled to put my pinky under bottom of device for support and it starts to cramp up. One does not make me do that and fits the hand more naturally.
Today at sprint, I saw a ZTE flash. It's a cheap phone (50$ on contract) and was surprised at it's specs, and impressive display and 12mp camera. A bit thick, but for a cheap phone, I was impressed. It comes with 4.0.3 and is a pretty unmolested AOSP ROM, very nice. If limited on cash, seems like a really nice option to have.
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I have an EVO LTE and a Photon Q LTE. Both fantastic phones, but I would recommend the EVO over the Photon q any day. And as for the comment about getting positive reviews in this forum... Take a gander at the Sidekick 4G forums and ask the same question... or even the Photon q forums. They all either say "wait for the new One" or "buy anything but this for X solid reason." My EVO LTE has some hiccups but is reliable, gets great service (I don't have any issues grabbing the occasional LTE when I travel through michigan), and the battery life is amazing. If you turn data off at night you can easily squeeze 1 to 2 days out of this battery with moderate to heavy use.
Overall I would recommend this phone, if not simply for the fact that it's like an OG EVO, but better. A lot better.