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Hi guys just wanted to let you know I found a way to get a working free mobile hotspot from Big Red using the same method as the Bionic's (thanx to who ever found this). Anyway I made a quick video for the the Razr. As for those wondering about Big Red watching you, I used 43 gb last month and 32 gb so far this month Also here's an article from XDA about throttling legalities on 4g networks. Can't say for sure, I'm no lawyer but it looks legit.
Worked perfectly. Thanks!
Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
looks like you copied zedomax post man...
i am 1addictsad78 and i just found a way to resolve to endless loop by changing the MTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTOOfogAaU
So, we should stay away from this procedure???
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Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
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This is NOT illegal, in my mind, if you have payed for a certain amount of data. You are not stealing their services because hot spotting is NOT their service. It is a a feature built into your phone that they blocked so they could charge you extra. Period. Even if this was illegal, you can always root and install a tethering app. At that point, I'd like to see them explain why this is still a service provided by then.
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Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
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You are probably correct. I changed the setting back after testing because I don't need any legal issues (or an increase in my bill), but for people who don't care or think they won't get caught, the procedure at least appears sound...
i have a massive data when i started using the thunderbolt with open garden tether. I'm a netflix guy and use as a modem to my apartment for over 6months and never get flagged. now i have the droid razr doing this Verizon hotspot too.
grandfathered rules!
It's not a matter of legality. It's not illegal.
It's a matter of ethics. Are you willing to break the Terms of Service that you signed agreement with when you bought the service? And are you willing to deal with Verizon's reaction when they find out? If they add a tether charge to your account, you earned it.
@ x2breakoffate, you have paid for unlimited phone data. You have not paid for ANY tether data. They sold it to you with the data blocked. If you didn't like that you should not have bought a phone that was crippled.
What you offered is a lame attempt to make yourself feel better, not a justification.
If any of you would read the full post and the associated links, you would know about the Block C provision. I've used it for a couple months on the Bionic and had no problems.
@ ad78.....I'm sorry it wasn't clearly stated that this was not my own work and I copied it from the Bionic
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Hi guys just wanted to let you know I found a way to get a working free mobile hotspot from Big Red using the same method as the Bionic's (thanx to who ever found this).
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@ everyone else: Stated I am no lawyer but I can say for those like me on the UNLIMITED DATA PLAN, yes I think it's BS that they lock down the devices and limit tethering to a usb. As posted earlier http://goo.gl/cL3L1 it is illegal under Block C to limit or throttle 4g devices.
You can throttle Block C devices for reasonable network management reasons (you using a 100 GB of data per month and therefore causing data congestion is one of those reasons).
And yes, it is illegal to use a paid service without paying for it.
I could tap into DirectTV's cable service and use it for free somehow, or get channels that I'm not paying for...is it simply a moral dilemma because they lock it down "simply because they want to charge me money" for them?
Terms of use aren't just a wall of text there because they want to put it there, it's a legally binding document that you AGREED to (which is the equivalent of signing). They CAN sue you for "pirating" their officially branded tethering service on their network. That's what you're doing. You're disabling the check in THEIR software to make sure you have the tethering plan, and you're using THEIR officially branded service, through THEM, without paying THEM. That is illegal.
The only difference between this and pirating a version of Microsoft Office and disabling the serial check is the fact that it's more easily monitored since all of the stolen data you're sending is going through their servers, possibly with something attached that tells Verizon that you're tethering.
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you have paid for unlimited phone data. You have not paid for ANY tether data.
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There is no difference to phone data and tether data.
It's all just information sent by the TCP-IP protocol.
It is like buying a book, but you are only allowed to read it outside because you have not payed for the ability to read it by artificial light.
Its still stealing bottom line. If you can afford a smartphone you should be able to afford internet at home or just pay extra for a tethering plan.
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But in order for this to not count towards you're data is if you're on the grandfather plan and rooted right? Cuz if ur on a 4gb plan then you're data would count correct?
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With a net income of over 3 billion, I don't think it hurts them that much from the very few root user users and even fewer heavy 4g users.
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But in order for this to not count towards you're data is if you're on the grandfather plan and rooted right? Cuz if ur on a 4gb plan then you're data would count correct?
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Not sure what you mean. Basically I was grandfathered in on 3g unlimited so I fell into the unlimited 4g plan. Yes you have to be rooted to use this.
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Not sure what you mean. Basically I was grandfathered in on 3g unlimited so I fell into the unlimited 4g plan. Yes you have to be rooted to use this.
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Yea I meant the unlimited data plan. That's the only way you can use the tether hack because if your not on the unlimited data then if you use this hack you're data will count right?
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or you could just download the latest android wifi tether app from google. it works perfectly.
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There is no difference to phone data and tether data.
It's all just information sent by the TCP-IP protocol.
It is like buying a book, but you are only allowed to read it outside because you have not payed for the ability to read it by artificial light.
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No, it's like buying basic cable and expecting to get all of the channels. It's all just data sent by the cable line after all!!!
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With a net income of over 3 billion, I don't think it hurts them that much from the very few root user users and even fewer heavy 4g users.
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Right, let's just all steal food from Walmart, it's a multi-billion dollar retail chain, it won't hurt much.
Honestly, if you're going to tether, at least use a 3rd party app. Using their software to steal free service is like peeing on a cop car and expecting to get away with it.
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No, it's like buying basic cable and expecting to get all of the channels. It's all just data sent by the cable line after all!!!
Right, let's just all steal food from Walmart, it's a multi-billion dollar retail chain, it won't hurt much.
Honestly, if you're going to tether, at least use a 3rd party app. Using their software to steal free service is like peeing on a cop car and expecting to get away with it.
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Ok but if you use a 3rd party app to tether its still using your data allowence right?
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I'm trying to help my brother upgrade from a very old windows phone to a rezound and trying to get him to keep his unlimited data plan. Our parents live in an extremely rural area that doesnt have 4g. I saw posts in the past about people being able to keep their unlimited plans if they were in 3g areas.
Can anyone help or give advice as far doing an upgrade and keeping the older unlimited plan?
Much appreciated.
I don't know anything about getting it with 3G but I do know that if you get a home phone with Verizon they will let you have unlimited on your cell phone. It's $19/mo for nationwide calling. So if you have a home phone you can port that number over and it's no more expensive. If you don't have one and have to add it well, then it's going to cost that much more for unlimited.
You can't activate a 4G phone without a data plan and they are not allowing anyone to upgrade from 3G to 4G phones and keep their unlimited data. If there was a loop hole, I'm sure it would be posted online somewhere.
yeah, there's physically no way in our system to do it..maybe if you get like 5 levels up on customer service you could try though lol
ive always wondered this, hopefully someone can answer:
If I use someone else's upgrade on my line(on same account), will their plan change?
You can on AT&T!! I've done it a few times
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OddFutur3 said:
ive always wondered this, hopefully someone can answer:
If I use someone else's upgrade on my line(on same account), will their plan change?
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nope just extends the contract
That's some bull that Verizon is pulling that crap. When I had my droid x my plan was also for 4g. You pay for the plan not the phone. I would sue them in small claims court for breach of contract.
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jayochs said:
nope just extends the contract
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sweet, maybe ill be getting the DNA after all
OddFutur3 said:
sweet, maybe ill be getting the DNA after all
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i'd love to..but that no sd card slot..meh lol
Rockstad said:
You can on AT&T!! I've done it a few times
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Nobody here has AT&T, this is a truly non helpful post.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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Nobody here has AT&T, this is a truly non helpful post.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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Considering this is a global phone, you never know who might be on whatever carrier.
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i'd love to..but that no sd card slot..meh lol
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Same here. I barely have room for 8gb plus my 64gb
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Considering this is a global phone, you never know who might be on whatever carrier.
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Global radios doesn't make it any less of a verizon phone
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If you are using an upgrade on your account you do not keep unlimited and it doesn't extend your contract. When you upgrade you also sign up for a new contract. You are misinformed.
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If you are using an upgrade on your account you do not keep unlimited and it doesn't extend your contract. When you upgrade you also sign up for a new contract. You are misinformed.
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You're talking semantics here and, seeing as how he manages a Verizon reseller, he probably knows what he is taking about.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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You can't activate a 4G phone without a data plan and they are not allowing anyone to upgrade from 3G to 4G phones and keep their unlimited data. If there was a loop hole, I'm sure it would be posted online somewhere.
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I got upgraded from 3g to 4g then called customer service telling her i didn't know they'd put me on tiered. She explained that for two weeks you can change things back. She did it for me. But I purchased a thunderbolt off contract and did it
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You're talking semantics here and, seeing as how he manages a Verizon reseller, he probably knows what he is taking about.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
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It's not semantics, it's Verizon policy. If you have an upgrade on any line on your account and you use it, you are then signing a new two year contract. A new contract with no unlimited where you are forced into a share plan.
That isn't a guess or semantics. That's exactly how it is.
If it wasn't, then you'd never lose unlimited ever because you can just upgrade on other lines until the end of time. You do realize how stupid that sounds right?
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It's not semantics, it's Verizon policy. If you have an upgrade on any line on your account and you use it, you are then signing a new two year contract. A new contract with no unlimited where you are forced into a share plan.
That isn't a guess or semantics. That's exactly how it is.
If it wasn't, then you'd never lose unlimited ever because you can just upgrade on other lines until the end of time. You do realize how stupid that sounds right?
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You can do that, upgrade on a secondary line, transfer the phone to your line, new phone, unlimited data. You are not forced into a shared plan, you can choose an individual tiered plan. If you have another line already on tiered data or willing to give up unlimited and their upgrade, you can use it and keep your unlimited. Please stop being wrong.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
Holy hell, NO YOU CAN'T. You cannot upgrade a secondary line and still maintain your current contract. If you add a line, it's a new two year agreement. When you upgrade a line with a subsidized price phone, it is a new two year agreement. THAT'S WHY THE PHONE IS SUBSIDIZED. That is how it works.
You really have no clue what you are saying. So stop.
Edit: Also, you can't be on individual tiered data when you have multiple lines anymore. You were able to add new lines at tiered data at one point but can't do that anymore. So any new line additions or upgrades force your entire family plan into a shared data plan. See how that works?
Again, stop speaking.
So currently I have the GS3, and today I am eligible for an upgrade on one of my 5 lines, two of which my wife and I still have unlimited data (the line with the eligible upgrade is not unlimited) so I am wondering is there a way to upgrade that line and give my wife the GS3 and me get the Gn2 without me loosing unlimited?
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you cannot get a phone at discounted price and keep unlimited data. You can buy one for full retail price and keep your data or get the discount and switch to tiered data plan. Or start a business account and you would still have access to unlimited data but it would cost around 150 bucks a month per line to have unlimited everything or at least i am pretty sure business customers sill have this option. If you end up seriously considering that i can call my business rep and ask him if you want just PM me.
If I upgraded the line with the upgrade available (which is already a limited data plan) and got the gn2 on that line and then preformed a hardware swap with my GS3 I would think I would get to keep unlimited or am I wrong here?
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ryhailey said:
If I upgraded the line with the upgrade available (which is already a limited data plan) and got the gn2 on that line and then preformed a hardware swap with my GS3 I would think I would get to keep unlimited or am I wrong here?
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edit misread post...srry
I've read somewhere else long before I posted the message on ACForums and a Very Reliable (Laugh) rep said that unlimited data users would go to a 2GB in may.
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I've read somewhere else long before I posted the message on ACForums and a Very Reliable (Laugh) rep said that unlimited data users would go to a 2GB in may.
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If that happens going to dump Verizon for Tmobile and paying full for the phone full price without contract makes it easier.
Sounds like I can keep Unlimited.
Sorry for the long post but here is what I got from the Verizon rep chat. I will keep the post updated to let you all know how it worked out.
Your RealTime session ID is 589747938.
You are now chatting with 'Elisabeth'
Elisabeth: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Ryan: Ya i have a question
Ryan: So today I am eligible for an upgrade on one of my 5 lines, two of which still have unlimited data (the line with the eligible upgrade is not unlimited) so I am wondering If I upgraded the line with the upgrade available (which is already a limited data plan) and got a new phone on that line and then, preformed a hardware swap with my current phone would I get to keep unlimited data?
Elisabeth: I will be happy to help you with your questions today!
Elisabeth: Yes you would be able to activate the phone to whatever number you want and not affect the unlimited data.
Elisabeth: Let's start that upgrade process today!
Elisabeth: What type of phone are you interested in today?
Ryan: The galaxy note 2
Elisabeth: That is an awesome phone!
Elisabeth: The order process is quick and easy online.
Elisabeth: And you can activate the phone yourself.
Ryan: I think im going to do it in store
Elisabeth: When you purchase the phone in store they activate it under the line that the upgrade is for.
Elisabeth: I recommend proceeding with the upgrade online today!
Ryan: Is it at all possible that i can order from you and do in store pickup?
Ryan: and still activate it on my own?
Elisabeth: I would have to see if in store pick is available where you live.
Elisabeth: What state do you live in?
Ryan: Arizona
Elisabeth: Let me check.
Elisabeth: What you can get today is free two day shipping when you order online because in store pick up is not available in your state.
Elisabeth: Would you like to proceed with the order.
Ryan: Im going to have to pass right now my wife broke her phone and she is freaking out without one on the weekend.
Elisabeth: I understand! I am the exact same way!
Elisabeth: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Ryan: No that should be it, thank you for your help i really appreciate it.
Elisabeth: Can I give you a suggestion?
Ryan: yes
Elisabeth: When you buy the phone in the store tell them it is for Christmas and you will activate it later. Then after you leave call customer care and activate the phone under the number you want.
Elisabeth: Do you want the number to customer care?
Ryan: yes please.
Elisabeth: Their number is 1-800-922-0204.
Elisabeth: You will be able to keep your unlimited data that way.
Ryan: Awesome. Thank you so much you are amazing Elisabeth.
Elisabeth: Your Welcome!
Elisabeth: Have a wonderful day!
ryhailey said:
If I upgraded the line with the upgrade available (which is already a limited data plan) and got the gn2 on that line and then preformed a hardware swap with my GS3 I would think I would get to keep unlimited or am I wrong here?
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You are correct. This is exactly what I did. I ordered mine online but had to exchange it in the store do to slight screen seperation below the home button. I even explained what I was doing at the store and they had no problem upgrading a regular line and switching it to my unlimited one.
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Ya she was telling me it depends on who you talk to, but I'm buying at best buy and those guys are idiots for the most part Imo so I am going to do it as the Verizon rep told me.
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Use your upgrade and get the note 2. Then just swap sim cards and you will be all set. Dont need to do anything else. Thats all I did and I had to explain it to the Verizon reps that it works.
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I actually work in Best Buy Mobile. You can do what is called an alternate upgrade. You just take the upgrade from the available line and place the upgraded device on the desired phone number. I do them all the time for customers in the same situation as you.
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Apoyyo said:
I actually work in Best Buy Mobile. You can do what is called an alternate upgrade. You just take the upgrade from the available line and place the upgraded device on the desired phone number. I do them all the time for customers in the same situation as you.
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correct...the only thing you wont be able to do is use the upgrades on the unlimited lines when they are elidgeable, without losing unlimited data.
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correct...the only thing you wont be able to do is use the upgrades on the unlimited lines when they are elidgeable, without losing unlimited data.
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Exactly. You are basically postponing the inevitable to a degree, but since those lines are already on a tiered plan, you have nothing to lose. As long as those other lines don't need new smartphones soon then you are good. Just keep in mind if you ever upgrade a line that had unlimited data then kiss your unlimited data goodbye.
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Use your upgrade and get the note 2. Then just swap sim cards and you will be all set. Dont need to do anything else. Thats all I did and I had to explain it to the Verizon reps that it works.
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I was thinking about this I think it may bug me that it won't change on my account. Kind of a stupid reason but still lol
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Apoyyo said:
I actually work in Best Buy Mobile. You can do what is called an alternate upgrade. You just take the upgrade from the available line and place the upgraded device on the desired phone number. I do them all the time for customers in the same situation as you.
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From what I've been hearing it all depends on the rep you talk to. Maybe I will get lucky.
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I have transferred 2 upgrades to my phone number and bought the iPhone 5(Which I sold and made about $800 on), and now the GNote, and have not lost the unlimited data even though it said I would both times.
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From what I've been hearing it all depends on the rep you talk to. Maybe I will get lucky.
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To be honest is not a matter of getting lucky. The option for an alternate upgrade is built right into our activation system for Verizon. As long as you tell the associate what exactly you are wanting to do it well be fine. Just say you want to take the upgrade on line ending in 1234 and put the new hardware on line ending in 5678 without changing the plan. I can personally guarantee it will work no problem
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I was thinking about this I think it may bug me that it won't change on my account. Kind of a stupid reason but still lol
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It does change on your account as soon as the phone activates itself on boot after sim card swap
My line is available for upgrade in January and I did not want to lose my unlimited data. So I actually purchased the GN2 on my father's account which still had an NE2 also. Once the process was complete the guy deactivated my thunderbolt and activated the GN2 on my line. The rep also setup my SIM card for recycling so If I ever wanted to activate my TBolt again I could. If unlimited data goes away maybe I'll get a Asus PhonFab over the summer and sell the GN2
Thanks everyone for the advice. Finally got myself the titanium gray GN2 so far I'm loving it. And I just did the sim swap it worked out great.
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Well, I have that dilemma that we all go through. I am currently on a Family Share Plan with five phones. My line is the primary line and is eligible for an upgrade at this time. I have the Motorola Droid Razr HD with unlimited data. I understand that by doing a subsidized upgrade to a new phone, I will lose my unlimited data on my phone. That is what makes this so difficult. Here is the dilemma though. I am 43 years old, and my eyes are starting to go. I need a bigger screen. I am also a large person - 6'3", 270 lbs with big old sausages for fingers. So, with that said, I definitely want something the size of the Note II or bigger. The question is, do I upgrade now or wait for the Note III, which is rumored for release in September?
The benefit of upgrading now is that I can probably recoup most, if not all of the $199 cost of the Note II by selling my Droid Razr HD, which is in flawless condition. The downside is that I will be stuck with an older phone for the next 20 months.
Thanks for the help...hopefully some of you guys have been in this situation and can help out.
PS - I really don't care about a lot of the newer features of the Galaxy S4. I just want a larger screen!
Buy it outright thats what i did its expensive but anything to keep my unlimited data and i hardly use 2 ti 3gb a month but its just thw fact and the common piece of mind that i have unlimited...or you uae an upgrade on another line then transfer that phone to you line...
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Well, I have that dilemma that we all go through. I am currently on a Family Share Plan with five phones. My line is the primary line and is eligible for an upgrade at this time. I have the Motorola Droid Razr HD with unlimited data. I understand that by doing a subsidized upgrade to a new phone, I will lose my unlimited data on my phone. That is what makes this so difficult. Here is the dilemma though. I am 43 years old, and my eyes are starting to go. I need a bigger screen. I am also a large person - 6'3", 270 lbs with big old sausages for fingers. So, with that said, I definitely want something the size of the Note II or bigger. The question is, do I upgrade now or wait for the Note III, which is rumored for release in September? The benefit of upgrading now is that I can probably recoup most, if not all of the $199 cost of the Note II by selling my Droid Razr HD, which is in flawless condition. The downside is that I will be stuck with an older phone for the next 20 months.
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Whichever phone you choose, I highly recommend buying used or full retail in order to keep your unlimited data. You may not use more than 2GB data in a month now, but you never know when that unlimited data will come in handy. And once you lose it, it's gone.
Craigslist and Swappa are good sources for used devices, and there is always ebay. If you want the Note 3, be prepared to pay full retail unless you wait a few weeks for used ones to become available.
I am extremely reluctant to lose my unlimited data...they all seem to be $500 and up in my area on Craigslist.
You cab upgrade without losing your unlimited. If you have multiple lines on your account, just transfer the upgrade to one of the lines that doesn't have unlimited. Order the phone you want, activate it, then swap your SIM card to it. Reactivate the phone that was originally on that line. This works easiest if you order through Amazon or Verizon's website. Don't go to a store, just do it yourself through online ordering. This is how I've done my last three upgrades while keeping unlimited.
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You cab upgrade without losing your unlimited. If you have multiple lines on your account, just transfer the upgrade to one of the lines that doesn't have unlimited. Order the phone you want, activate it, then swap your SIM card to it. Reactivate the phone that was originally on that line. This works easiest if you order through Amazon or Verizon's website. Don't go to a store, just do it yourself through online ordering. This is how I've done my last three upgrades while keeping unlimited.
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Oops. Didnt read all the way through. I thought upgrading changes the entire plan?
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I did every step, VPN is running, I downloaded your wifi tether apk and installed it, changed the SSID and enabked encryption and changed the 128bit security phrase, snd when I press start tether, the log shows "setting ad-hock mode - failed"
Appreciate the help.
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Buy full retail at Costco. 499 and its brand new. Better than buying from Craigslist at the same price.
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Digbob said:
You can upgrade without losing your unlimited. If you have multiple lines on your account, just transfer the upgrade to one of the lines that doesn't have unlimited. Order the phone you want, activate it, then swap your SIM card to it. Reactivate the phone that was originally on that line. This works easiest if you order through Amazon or Verizon's website. Don't go to a store, just do it yourself through online ordering. This is how I've done my last three upgrades while keeping unlimited.
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+1. I've done this twice with zero issue. I don't believe you can do this through Amazon. I think with Amazon the phone must stay on the line it's activated on for several months, or you will incur extra charges.
Best Buy and Radio Shack do not have this requirement.
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Although he does have the family plan i think they might screw him out of unlimited with an upgrade on any line, im not sure..i know on my wife n my family plan i have unlimited and she has the old get double data for regular price thing and i know if either of us upgrade we gota switch to the new plans which is stupid so i dont care ill buy phones outright for us as long as we both have those plans
It works just fine with Amazon. I've done two phones through Amazon this way and one through Verizon. The only requirement is the phone stay in use on your account for six months. Doesn't matter what number it is on. This requirement is the same wether going through Amazon or Verizon.
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I currently have four lines on my account, with the family share plan. Two are smartphones with unlimited data, the other two are flip phones. When an upgrade comes up, I go to the my Verizon site and transfer the upgrade to one of the flip phones. Order the new phone on that line. When phone arrives, activate on the line it was ordered for. Immediately swap in my SIM card, get back on my Verizon, reactivate the flip phone on the line that was upgraded, which immediately cancels the new data plan for that line. Works perfect every time.
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Digbob said:
You cab upgrade without losing your unlimited. If you have multiple lines on your account, just transfer the upgrade to one of the lines that doesn't have unlimited. Order the phone you want, activate it, then swap your SIM card to it. Reactivate the phone that was originally on that line. This works easiest if you order through Amazon or Verizon's website. Don't go to a store, just do it yourself through online ordering. This is how I've done my last three upgrades while keeping unlimited.
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OMG! You're a genius! I have five phones on my account, and one of them is not unlimited. I can transfer the upgrade to that line, upgrade to the Note 2, then move the Note 2 back to my unlimited line. Woohoo!
I changed device type to Samsun S3 and it works fine now with no errors. Let us see if t-mobile is going to add additional fees to my bill, or if this vpn will work. I hope it does work as I hate comcast and want to cancel them.
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s10sdeville said:
Although he does have the family plan i think they might screw him out of unlimited with an upgrade on any line, im not sure..i know on my wife n my family plan i have unlimited and she has the old get double data for regular price thing and i know if either of us upgrade we gota switch to the new plans which is stupid so i dont care ill buy phones outright for us as long as we both have those plans
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Thats what I was told. Me and my wife have 4 lines all together and 3 of them are eligible for upgrades one including unlimited data. They told me multiple times if I upgrade any of them, my whole plan changes to the share everything, losing my unlimited data. Nothing changes if you add line though, which is what I did and swapped out the sim. Your best bet is to buy off contract. Keep your unlimited because its nice not having to keep an eye on how much you use.
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Guys, I am lost, I still cannot see my SSID on my ipad or my laptop, I started VPN first and it is connected, then started wifi tether, had to change device profile to samsung s3 to get it to start without errors, I did change SSID, enabled encryption, and changed the 128bit security phrase.
Tether is running and showing d/l and u/l, download stays zero but upload goes up as time passes. But I cannot see my SSID any where to connect. Please, I urgently need help. Thanks.
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ispot said:
Guys, I am lost, I still cannot see my SSID on my ipad or my laptop, I started VPN first and it is connected, then started wifi tether, had to change device profile to samsung s3 to get it to start without errors, I did change SSID, enabled encryption, and changed the 128bit security phrase.
Tether is running and showing d/l and u/l, download stays zero but upload goes up as time passes. But I cannot see my SSID any where to connect. Please, I urgently need help. Thanks.
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First off you need to go to the right forum for your phone. This is Verizon Note 2, you need to go to T-mobile Note 2 forum and create your own thread in the help section instead of trying to hijack someone else's thread.
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shangrila500 said:
First off you need to go to the right forum for your phone. This is Verizon Note 2, you need to go to T-mobile Note 2 forum and create your own thread in the help section instead of trying to hijack someone else's thread.
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I am not trying yo hijack anyone's thread as you said, I was directed here from the t-mobile section by a respectfull member. And the topic of the thread is not brand specific, so, execuse me if I offended you with my posts here and with disagreeing with you. And again, I appreciate any help my dear friends.
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killerapl said:
Buy full retail at Costco. 499 and its brand new. Better than buying from Craigslist at the same price.
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I thought of doing that based on the lower retail price. But the guys at the kiosk in Costco said that the only way they could sell the phone was if I signed a new contract. Didn't matter if I was willing to pay full retail or not.
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I pulled the trigger on the Note 2...
As I previously stated, I have a 700 minute Family Share plan with five lines. Three have unlimited data, one is on a 2GB data plan, and the fifth is not a smartphone. I transferred my upgrade to my wife's line (non-smartphone) and upgraded to the Note 2. My plan did not change. When I get it, I will activate it on my wife's line, then call and have her feature phone put back on the line. Then I should be able to drop my SIM into the Note 2 and have unlimited data on that phone.
Looking to switch from my Note 3 to G3 tomorrow before work. Only thing stopping me is I forgot whether or not tethering is still free or if that's only when rooted(which I know we have) and ROM'd.
I have unlimited(will be using parents upgrade cause they don't care about phones and still both have the LG enV 3) of course so it's non issue in terms of paying extra for easily going over the data cap.
And WOW. I was expecting going in and paying 200bucks. Had no idea it was 99 on contract.
Edit - A mod can move this to the questions section, I completely forgot. Sorry!
Benjamin150 said:
Looking to switch from my Note 3 to G3 tomorrow before work. Only thing stopping me is I forgot whether or not tethering is still free or if that's only when rooted(which I know we have) and ROM'd.
I have unlimited(will be using parents upgrade cause they don't care about phones and still both have the LG enV 3) of course so it's non issue in terms of paying extra for easily going over the data cap.
And WOW. I was expecting going in and paying 200bucks. Had no idea it was 99 on contract.
Edit - A mod can move this to the questions section, I completely forgot. Sorry!
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tethering is not free, you will need to be rooted but there is a hack and its easy. just follow this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwAM3V7I64
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tethering is not free, you will need to be rooted but there is a hack and its easy. just follow this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwAM3V7I64
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Okay, awesome. Thanks!
WiFi Tether Router, on play store, is another option. A simpler install (Just run the apk), and you don't have to reset/change settings each time you run it.
Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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This is exactly what I did.
I've been looking but there's a bunch of these apps which one do we know is the right one?
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WiFi Tether Router, on play store, is another option. A simpler install (Just run the apk), and you don't have to reset/change settings each time you run it.
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The one I use is actually called WiFi Tether Router. Fabio Grasso is the developer.
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The one I use is actually called WiFi Tether Router. Fabio Grasso is the developer.
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Using it too.
The only thing, I wish it had a widget.
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Assuming your on verizon you can use your upgrade and transfer it to one of your parents lines. This would renew your unlimited contract for two years, get you a new phone and keep your parents upgrades available for them. Once you activate the phone on one of their lines just take it back off and activate the phone on your line. The subsidized phone is what triggers the tierd data package so as long as its activated on a non unlimited line the first time its activated youll be good.
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Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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Then how did I just do an alternate upgrade last week and not lose unlimited? Don't spread false information.
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I did a transfer of an upgrade online day before G3 was released...I. Still have unlimited.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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This is just not true if you do it manually. I have done it two times in as many months (once being today actually). Each line is considered a contract so Verizon can't remove and add features without your concent.
How are you proposing they take away the unlimited data if the phone is switched? Instantly or manually by you guys? Also, what about the people who sell their phones? Wouldn't that take anyone's unlimited data if it was then activated on the recipients account?
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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What you have explained is confusing at best and misinformation at worst.
Upgrading a line and the moving the phone to a line with unlimited will never modify the target line.
You have just changed equipment. As long as the line is compatible with the device moving to the line there is no issue.
Alternate line upgrades move the upgrade to another line.
The contract gets extended on the original line but you don't lose the unlimited data.
Move the phone back to the original line and there is no issue.
Unlimited data is a feature and they cannot change features without consent from the line holder.
Also you you can swap the SIM card at will for an unlimited line with no effect.
Bringing equipment to an unlimited line (as long as the equipment is valid) does nothing.
It's treated like customer owned equipment.
If what you are saying is true, then buying a subsidized phone from another individual will cause changes on your plan.
It does not.
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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Go on slickdeals and search Verizon unlimited there you will find a godly amount of people keeping unlimited including myself on all 3 of my lines doing it the bestbuy glitch way so you are definitely spreading false information. ..........
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I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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aj522 said:
I did a transfer of an upgrade online day before G3 was released...I. Still have unlimited.
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This is just not true if you do it manually. I have done it two times in as many months (once being today actually). Each line is considered a contract so Verizon can't remove and add features without your concent.
How are you proposing they take away the unlimited data if the phone is switched? Instantly or manually by you guys? Also, what about the people who sell their phones? Wouldn't that take anyone's unlimited data if it was then activated on the recipients account?
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tech_head said:
What you have explained is confusing at best and misinformation at worst.
Upgrading a line and the moving the phone to a line with unlimited will never modify the target line.
You have just changed equipment. As long as the line is compatible with the device moving to the line there is no issue.
Alternate line upgrades move the upgrade to another line.
The contract gets extended on the original line but you don't lose the unlimited data.
Move the phone back to the original line and there is no issue.
Unlimited data is a feature and they cannot change features without consent from the line holder.
Also you you can swap the SIM card at will for an unlimited line with no effect.
Bringing equipment to an unlimited line (as long as the equipment is valid) does nothing.
It's treated like customer owned equipment.
If what you are saying is true, then buying a subsidized phone from another individual will cause changes on your plan.
It does not.
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Rootuser3.0 said:
Go on slickdeals and search Verizon unlimited there you will find a godly amount of people keeping unlimited including myself on all 3 of my lines doing it the bestbuy glitch way so you are definitely spreading false information. ..........
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The guy is obviously a troll and it is pretty obvious he works at Verizon...he's full of misinformation to try to scare people off unlimited. Sorry to go offopic...
Actually guys what he is saying might have a little bit of truth to it. I bought my G3 on launch day at my local corporate store. I'm a unlimited user and had a line with a upgrade so was going to upgrade it then have them switch the phones and put my basic phone back on. They didn't want to do it, since I'm good friends with a few of them they went ahead but told me the exact same thing this guy is telling us. They said they are not allowed to do that anymore. I stated to them what makes the difference after I leave to switch SIM cards out and call them and have them put basic service on the other line. What makes the difference if I break this phone and need to swap it out for one of my others. They said outside the store u can do what u want, they just ain't suppose to anymore in the store so hopefully this clears up a little of what this guy is saying.
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mactechnm said:
Sorry to be a party pooper but... VZW just recently made a policy change about two months ago. If you buy a cellphone at a reduced cost (2 year contract) and switch the new phone (even manually by calling in, or on My Verizon), you WILL lose unlimited data. You will be forced to. This means if you EVER switch to that phone within the next 2 years, they WILL remove your unlimited. Verizon does not want ANYONE on unlimited data, because they make grossly insane amounts of money getting people to move up to higher and higher data plans. Don't ask me how I know this, because I'm treading a fine line....
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LOL Wut? See attachment for my Chat from the week the G3 was released.
I did it and still am showing unlimited data.
tech_head said:
Using it too.
The only thing, I wish it had a widget.
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There is a widget. I placed it on my home screen and 1 press of the icon and it automatically turns on. I don't have to go into the app to turn it on or off.
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mactechnm said:
I'm not spreading false information. If you were able to keep your unlimited data, that's awesome! Someone at Verizon was willing to go outside official policy and allow you to keep it. How do I know? I am a Verizon Employee of over 5 years. OFFICIAL policy is, we must take away the unlimited. Is it right? Hell no. But that's greedy corporate America.
Dont assume I don't know what I'm talking about. I know far better than you.
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I have 4 lines. 2 are my primary and 2 are dummy lines. My 2 primary are on month to month. My 2 dummy lines are eligible for upgrade. I used those lines to get the LG G3. Activated it on my dummy lines. Deactivated them and put it on my primary. Put back my dummy phones and I still have unlimited which is still month to month. Dummy lines are eligible for upgrade in 2016