I have a trashed Atrix sitting around my house that I have no use for (I have another Atrix in good condition that I use).
I was wondering if it would be possible to completely wipe everything off of it and use the phone as a dedicated Ubuntu "computer". Or any other ideas of what to do with my trashed atrix (has a bad digitizer) and/or lapdock?
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Mankey Magic said:
I have a trashed Atrix sitting around my house that I have no use for (I have another Atrix in good condition that I use).
I was wondering if it would be possible to completely wipe everything off of it and use the phone as a dedicated Ubuntu "computer". Or any other ideas of what to do with my trashed atrix (has a bad digitizer) and/or lapdock?
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how about to spend it the kernel devs? they could test drive with such an atrix
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There are many guides how to make portable pc using atrix lapdock and mini pc hardware like Rapsberry Pi (which was 1st in this field)
Could probably be done similar to the way the Ubuntu webtop image is built in the first place. (check the sourceforge repos). Obviously it's a bit more involved than that, but at least in theory it could be done.
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Ok now that is out of the way.
I have Navionics Lake Maps loaded on my TB and would like to use my HP laptop
as a monitor while on the boat. Without getting lost and FRIED for posting this can anyone give me a simple yes/no if this can be done and if so just how?
Remember I"m a NOOOOOOOOOB.
The Thunderbolt doesn't have a TV out so unless there is an app that I'm not aware of then no you can't. Good Idea though.
Thanks, I guess I will have to spend$3000 for a gps unit that is the same size as laptop now
The thunderbolt supports DLNA.. I know there's an app in the market for it but I can't think of it :/
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Wouldnt it make sence to buy a program that would run those maps on your laptop? I am not exactly familiar with Navionics lake maps but if they are in standard format than you should be able to load the into some other program. If your laptop doesnt have have gps built-in then you can get a USB dongle. HERE is a link as an example. It might be a little cheaper to do it this way as opposed to buying a garmin or midland marine system. Just a thought.
Hello all
I have my Atrix for about 3 months now, and from the beginning was thinking on buying the lapdock aswell but held myself due to its over expensive price (500$ for a damn docking!!!). Personally I don't see any reason to buy a docking for just 1 device in over 150$.
I've got now a chance to buy a semi-used one for 210$ (with a spare charger) and I wanted some consolt about it:
1) Is it possible to write office docs such as word and excell on it?
2) Is it possible to connect USB storage devices to it?
Since my primery uses for it will be as a working tool for docs writing (Thesis, reports and stuff), that can replace my aging laptop and instead of buying a notebook. will it be enough for my uses?
Can I use a Ubuntu hack to make it work as a Linux laptop?
Does it worth the 210$? or should I remain assertive on my "not over 150$" policy?
Much 10xs for all
I have had mine for a month now and in my opinion is OK but very limited. First there is the WIFI only unless you get the tethering plan or can get the hack to work (I have not yet got it to work). I use mine for remotely connecting to my Windows server but use a paid app Pocketcloud which works fine with the full screen mode on the lapdock although sizing the screen is sometimes a problem.
In answer to your questions:
1 If there is an app for Office docs which there is the answer is Yes but all the lapdock is really is a large screen for your phone, if you can do it on the phone you can do it on the lapdock.
2. I believe you can but it needs a hack
In my opinion it is not really yet a substitute for a laptop but if the hacks for Ubantu, tethering, etc are refined it may be in time but it in all honesty does not appear the be there yet.
As far as price, probably worth $200.00 to me to throw in the car so that I have a larger screen to log into my server when I am on the road etc without wireless, but that is a decision you would have to make.
You can buy it cheaper online, refurbished. It comes in very good working condition. My first one had a dead pixel, but AT&T let me bring it in and they gave me a new refurb'd.
They're 175 + tax online.
It says that flash drives and mice are supported. But I'm not sure. Haven't tried.
There's also a Google Docs app if you don't want to mod your WebTop. You can get OpenOffice if you use WebTop2SD, or the Debian mod.
Hey
first 10x to you both
Second, did I understand you correct? in webtop mod I cant use 3G? whats the point then? shouldnt it supposed to be a "laptop" with all the capabilities of the Atrix?
anyway, Sinful, can you give me a link for this price?
Another question, Does anyone knows if there are 10 intch screens with HDMI inlet? It ca be a cheap replacement for the lapdock....
You CAN connect with 3G with the regular phone interface which can be full screen on the lapdock. What you cannot do without the ATT tethering plan is to use the "full" Firefox browser on the lapdock.
For the most part it works fine just using the phone interface with the phone's browser in full screen mode.
I bought a refurb from lapdock from att and have been pleased with it. I have done the debian hack and the tethering hack to get firefox to work with my data plan. In reguards to your second question, I have hooked up external usb drives without problem. It gets mounted just fine and I am able to copy files without problem. Open Office also works well.
O.K
Thanks for the clarification.
Thats quite ****ty! Why would they do that?
Anyhow, since i'm not an AT&T costumer, I obviesly dont have the 'AT&T tethering program', so I guess it will be problematic for me to use the 3G.
I dont see what the use of the lapdock if I cant use my 3G, and I really dont want to use the phone browser in full mode to be able to do so.
Well, we will have to wait for the 2.3.4 official AT&T rom, and maybe they will enable this, or just wait for a skillful dev that will do that...
Which tethering hack did you use? I could not get mine to work. Thanks
AT&T thinks that using an external display of ANY form is considered tethering, even though its technically the same "computing device", just the output/input being redirected. I had a major "phone fight" with AT&Ts support, and am in talks with my lawyer if this actually enforceable. But yes, if you want to use the standard 3G web connectivity on your webtop's Firefox browser, AT&T requires you to get the 45 USD dataplan.
Alternatively you can try FIREFOX from the app market, and run it "fullscreen" through your Android GUI-"window".
As for office application that does Microsoft's office 2010 documents, I swear by QUICK OFFICE PRO. It does excel, word, PowerPoint and adobe PDF to create/edit.
I use my ATRIX as a semi desktop on the go, via Bluetooth keyboard and the ATRIX plugged into any TV or monitor that has a DVI (with HDMI-2-DVI adapter) or HDMI jack, and use the ATRIX itself as a mouse, since the touchscreen turns into a laptop-style -mousepad
There are mods out there to run an (almost) full Ubuntu, but last time I checked they had massive storage constraints trying to make it work all the way. Not sure if they overcome them by now.
But since the bootlaoder can be now unlocked, we probably will see soon some cool ROMS that allow us to use the ATRIX in a full Ubuntu environment.
Just hoping :-D
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I have been using my atrix to do my general doc file typings. So far I am happy.
here are some stuff that you may need to know:
1. you can use an external drive as long as it is formatted FAT32.
2. you can use a cable mouse
3. look under development section and look up debian and ubuntu images for webtop. I found debian more reliable but ubuntu solution has more flexibility.
Using either solution you can install koffice or openoffice for your typing needs. If you simply want to type in text and do the formatting at a later time look up the "easy_v0.2.5-signed.zip" under debian solution. It will give you a on screen window for typing similar to notepad which is pretty nice.
There is also the webtop2sd project that is in beta. I suggest for it to come out of beta as it is not ready for general public yet.
I owned one , had hacked 3g tethering working and my opinion is NO not worth it unless you can get for 100-150 then its just OK
No. Id wait to see if there is any official webtop improvements....out of the box there is very little funvtionality.
Also, moto has said that there will be more accesories, and they have filed for a Tabdock....which may be much better if its basicly a xoom transformer. I think they released the lapdock first more as a webtop beta and to not have a tabdock compete with their zoom.
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Ive got one, and the usb drive works fine, and i have a wireless mouse that seems to work just fine, it does what ever your phone does, and stores it on your phone, so... if you consider your phone your primary computer then this is for you.... i will be trading mine in on a laptop or at the very least a net book of some kind that will allow me to use financial software and other windows/mac essential software...
its a neat idea, but at this stage its gimmicky at best.
vonh
Sorry to dig this thread up, but I just got my Lapdock and in the last month it has matured a bit more, with lots of hacks to install several Linux distros allowing to install native Linux apps to the environment.
So far, I'm very pleased and glad to leave the 15.4" laptop at home.
This is what I use my Lapdock for:
1. Remote into my job Servers and Workstations through LogMeIn. I still don't jump into Cytrix yet.
2. Browse the web natively through full Firefox for research and entertainment.
3. Remotely manage my home's NAS
4. Download, display an manage files (.RAR, .ZIP, .APK, .DOC, .PPS, .XLS, .PDF, etc)
5. A few games here and there (like AngryBirds) but honestly, I prefer to play them on the phone itself due to multitouch.
6. I manage several personal and business websites and portals, and I can pretty much do all I need to accomplish this. (FTP, Edit, Upload, Download, Code, etc)
What's lacking on the Lapdock:
1. No front Webcam (no way to answer a video call from Google Voice, Skype, etc)
2. No fron Microphone (I constantly find myself yelling so people on the other side of the line can hear me, I now use a wired headset. Maybe a BT headset would be more comfortable though.)
3. No way to input international accented characters (I hope to find a way to hack a way to implement this.)
4. No accelerated video under Webtop?
My conclusion:
For me, I think that overall it's a great complement to my Atrix as long as you don't pay more than $200 for it.
Cheers!
Rayan
I ordered a refurb dock from AT&T on sale for my Atrix 1, and I'm wondering about the webtop, and all of the hacks around for it. I dont have the dock yet,its still being sent by snail mail.
Basically my main question is, can you install a full version of Ubuntu on it, or is it still limited in some way? If you can install it,can you use one of the other distro's like Xubuntu or Lubuntu that might run better on lower end systems? I have a stock phone, that has been rooted, but still running stock firmware. I would like to keep it stock, aside from hacking the webtop to get full fuctionality out of the laptop dock.
I want to try using it for work, and I mainly do work from a web browser, but I want to put the best OS on it that I can, and I heard the stock Webtop is kind of lame. If a full version of ubuntu can be installed on it, mind pointing me to the easiest "how-to" guide?
Also, out of curiosity, can you run like Virtualbox on it with a windows xp VM?
Thanks for the answers
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I've just read that i can use Ubuntu on the Atrix (I'm running turls v8), but I am a little confused as to how I need to connect the phone to the laptop. Whats the minimum type of dock can I get away with?
thanks
Kam
the Motorola lapdock is enough...?
I don't understand...
ifalldownalot said:
the Motorola lapdock is enough...?
I don't understand...
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Thanks. I forgot to clarify. II bought the phone on ebay and I font have any type of dock at all. Thanks.
The phone doesn't come with it, you buy the lapdock separately.
CM7 and CM9 do not support webtop though. So the best you'll get on that rom right now is HDMI landscape mirroring of the phone display on the screen.
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we use Ubuntu on the atrix with our lapdocks.
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we use Ubuntu on the atrix with our lapdocks.
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Thansk. maybe I need to clarify more.
I only have an Atrix...no DOCK of any sort. I'm not worried about Webtop because i use CM9.
However, I knwo i can use the phone with ubuntu and i want to play around with that.
I know there are a few different types of Docks out there (Standard, HD, Laptop etc), so i need to know which one I can get away with without spending more than i need to! I don't want to have to fork out for the Lapdock if the standrd one will do.
So, whats the cheapest Dock I can get away with?
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Thansk. maybe I need to clarify more.
I only have an Atrix...no DOCK of any sort. I'm not worried about Webtop because i use CM9.
However, I knwo i can use the phone with ubuntu and i want to play around with that.
I know there are a few different types of Docks out there (Standard, HD, Laptop etc), so i need to know which one I can get away with without spending more than i need to! I don't want to have to fork out for the Lapdock if the standrd one will do.
So, whats the cheapest Dock I can get away with?
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they all serve different purposes.
it seems you think all the docks are interchangeable.
and you can only run Ubuntu on the atrix/lapdock combination, I believe.
You can run Ubuntu (or webtop in this context, which is Ubutnu 9.10) with the lapdock and the HD Multimedia dock. You can also run webtop simply with the supplied HDMI cable (which I'm guessing you didn't get either) without any dock but your ROM must support webtop over HDMI. Webtop is only available with Blur roms, not CM7/9
If you are talking about the recent Canonical announcement about Ubuntu on Android, that is simply and updated webtop and made to run on any Android, not just Moto. It is not available to the general public.
There is a another way to run Ubuntu that I've heard works with CM7/9, but it is the type that uses VNC as a viewer and on the phone, not using one of the docks mentioned. I know nothing else about that setup.
Currently to me ubuntu running on top of android is pointless but intriguing. Is it possible to connected an external Usb wifi adapter to the phone and have it recognized in ubuntu? More simply put can the phone allow the needed data through the USB interface? I cannot be the only one considering the joy of running Airpwn on a mobile phone... Any thoughts? If the wifi adapter is possible it opens up a whole new box of abilities for the phone.
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Went ahead and ordered http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036H-Wireless-Long-Rang-Panel/dp/B003YI4HRM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
And a couple microusb to Usb adapters to test with.. I'll let yall know if I'm successful when I get everything.
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I've been thinking about this since i got the Note. Glad to see someone is thinking along the same lines.
I'm looking forward to seeing your results.
I should have the wifi adapter this week but the damn 50 cent microusb adapter will take until the 1st. Some odd reason I didn't feel like paying for shipping on something that costs 50cents.
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Funny I just ordered an Ethernet to usb adapter for similar purposes. I want to see if I can use Android to do network testing so I dont have to carry a laptop with me.
Looking forward to seeing your results. I will post mine as well.
PS. How do you get Ubuntu to run on the Note?
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Funny I just ordered an Ethernet to usb adapter for similar purposes. I want to see if I can use Android to do network testing so I dont have to carry a laptop with me.
Looking forward to seeing your results. I will post mine as well.
PS. How do you get Ubuntu to run on the Note?
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Never thought of that. Now that I'm its a bit scary from a network security standpoint. Having a small easly hidden device hooked into an ethernet network and just running wireshark or ethereal. Lol
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It is possible to get Ubuntu running via a virtual machine setup (emulating Ubuntu on the phone inside Android). The other possibility is a remote desktop option.
The two problems however:
1. Most USB devices require power - something I dont believe the phone puts out thru the USB micro port.
2. Getting direct access to the hardware (required for most of these types of tools to work) is not likely possible via a VM or Remote Desktop situation.
My guess is, this wont work, but Im a glass half full kind of guy.
A little OT but does anyone know if Ubuntu (via Ubuntu installer free app) works on SauRom?
Tried to get working but I couldn't start the shell. I'm thinking the bottleneck is the kernel, not sure if it allows multiple loops or something like that
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It is possible to get Ubuntu running via a virtual machine setup (emulating Ubuntu on the phone inside Android). The other possibility is a remote desktop option.
The two problems however:
1. Most USB devices require power - something I dont believe the phone puts out thru the USB micro port.
2. Getting direct access to the hardware (required for most of these types of tools to work) is not likely possible via a VM or Remote Desktop situation.
My guess is, this wont work, but Im a glass half full kind of guy.
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1. I thought about the power requirements after I bought it and so far I haven't been able to find any data on how much power the phone can supply through the USB port but seeing how the MHL requires additional power I might have to get creative to get power to the wifi adapter.
2. As long as the phone recognizes the wifi adapter as a host I don't think I'll have any problems with it inside the ubuntu VM. If I do I might be able to do alittle kernel work to make it communicate properly.
I'm trying to be optimistic as I really want it to work. Plus if integrating the wifi adapter directly fails I have a back up plan... Arduino to the rescue.
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I'm not an expert on all things linux, but the chroot method isn't a virtual machine, it should be full fledged linux on the hardware.
Android runs all processes in a VM. But anyways I have it all working.
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I have all the needed drivers for my wifi adapter cross compiled one set for the current ICS and one for GB. The ICS you need to manually install the drivers from terminal and the GB is already included into my custom kernel. If anyone is interested let me know. At this moment I do not plan on putting it out in the public in the development forum...
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I should have the wifi adapter this week but the damn 50 cent microusb adapter will take until the 1st. Some odd reason I didn't feel like paying for shipping on something that costs 50cents.
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On the same page. I cringe when I order something on Amazon for 3.99 and there's 6 dollars shipping.
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