Hey all,
Having a little trouble here with maps/navigation. Almost everytime i open the app and start a navigation somewhere i get the message "maps has stopped." The weird thing is that the voice will still talk to you and i can still see the navigation notification in the drop down menu.
once i click on the navigation app, however, it disappears and i must reopen it. Maps works just fine alone, but when i tell it to navigate sometimes the graphics will get glitchy and and will give me the error mentioned above. It seems like all of this started after I flashed the JellyBam 3.1 ROM with the komodo kernel...and just for the record i never got the komodo to work (almost everything force closed with it installed).
Now even after flashing various other AOKP and going back to sense ROMs, my navigation/maps app still closes on me and gets glitchy. ive already tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app.
It is an EVO 4G LTE hardware version 0003, S-OFF
Any help would be greatly appreciated
It's a known issue with Jelly Bean, not any particular ROM. Navigation apparently eats up huge gobs of memory until it eventually kills itself. I suggest an alternate navigation app. I'm using Waze and I like it.
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Travenport said:
Hey all,
Having a little trouble here with maps/navigation. Almost everytime i open the app and start a navigation somewhere i get the message "maps has stopped." The weird thing is that the voice will still talk to you and i can still see the navigation notification in the drop down menu.
once i click on the navigation app, however, it disappears and i must reopen it. Maps works just fine alone, but when i tell it to navigate sometimes the graphics will get glitchy and and will give me the error mentioned above. It seems like all of this started after I flashed the JellyBam 3.1 ROM with the komodo kernel...and just for the record i never got the komodo to work (almost everything force closed with it installed).
Now even after flashing various other AOKP and going back to sense ROMs, my navigation/maps app still closes on me and gets glitchy. ive already tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app.
It is an EVO 4G LTE hardware version 0003, S-OFF
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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As stated, its unfortunately a known issue....seems to be nav eating up memory and crashing itself...I dealt with it for a while just like yourself and finally resolved it by going into a sprint store and they acknowledged an issue and my refurb replacement doesn't have the issue...my personal opinion is that it has to do with what batch of phone you have (mine was a release day phone)...no fix in sight...only options are try getting replacement phones til you get a more recent build phone (no way to tell besides activation date in ##786# menu) or try telenav or waze as many have done...good luck and hope that helps and let us know what you decide to do...
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Oh okay so its a JellyBean issue. That makes more sense now that i think about the timing of everything. I was running ICS roms before flashing jellyBAM. Thats a relief because i was think i may have messed something up permanently by flashing that komodo kernel.
I think ill either run an ICS rom or just use a different nav program. Dont really feel like going through the process of unrooting only to deal with whatever shenanigans sprint has waiting for me if i were to request a refurb
EDIT: btw good call on the waze...this app is awesome!
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Oh okay so its a JellyBean issue. That makes more sense now that i think about the timing of everything. I was running ICS roms before flashing jellyBAM. Thats a relief because i was think i may have messed something up permanently by flashing that komodo kernel.
I think ill either run an ICS rom or just use a different nav program. Dont really feel like going through the process of unrooting only to deal with whatever shenanigans sprint has waiting for me if i were to request a refurb
EDIT: btw good call on the waze...this app is awesome!
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Yea it sux if you're trying to run a jb based Rom (ics roms were I did too for a while) but somewhere along the way the phones have a tiny manufacturing difference newer/older build wise (at least I believe so) and can't handle the jellybean update reliably...using another nav app obviously defeats running a clean uncluttered phone but it'll have to do til someone/htc/google fix whatever is causing the nav issue...IF they ever do.
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If it is a batch issue, it isn't as simple as old vs. new. I have a release day phone and haven't had any issues with Google nav and Jelly Bean.
I have a release day phone and currently had it crash 4+ times on a drive home last night, running jb as well, very weird
This happened to me, so I uninstalled maps, reinstalled from market, and the glitch has not reappeared.
Running superjelly...
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Kalvan said:
If it is a batch issue, it isn't as simple as old vs. new. I have a release day phone and haven't had any issues with Google nav and Jelly Bean.
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Well there goes my theory somewhat...darn it...hmmm...can't pinpoint any other reason for it besides maybe bad batch of certain memory module or part inside phone.
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This happened to me, so I uninstalled maps, reinstalled from market, and the glitch has not reappeared.
Running superjelly...
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That's interesting also...I think you and maybe a handful of other users have had luck doing that and having success. Looks like it'll probably be an issue that won't be fixed except by getting funtional replacement phone IF the store goes through with it for whoever does have the issue.
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Well sounds like there isnt anymore talk of getting a fix for this. Looks like I am going to have to pay the $50 for a refurbished phone... This is a hardware/software issue I think Sprint/HTC should be replacing the phone at no cost even without TEP. /endrant
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Well sounds like there isnt anymore talk of getting a fix for this. Looks like I am going to have to pay the $50 for a refurbished phone... This is a hardware/software issue I think Sprint/HTC should be replacing the phone at no cost even without TEP. /endrant
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Ill be surprised to hear that they charge you for it...they shouldn't...just tell em the truth, the update screwed navigtion up along with other issues, and you want to get a phone with the older software on it to have a functional phone....when you get it, just unlock and don't update your hboot and read up on how to get jb on it with older hboot (like I have my phone now) to see if nav works.. if it doesn't then you'll still have the option of going back to older ruu before jb...
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I'm surprised this is related to memory. In my experience, and I've had the app freeze/crash since Feb. update, the issue is just related to navigation when in 3D mode. If you tap the compass in top left to lock north to up (put nav in top-down mode), it does not crash. Seems to be directly related to 3D rendering.
I hate using the map in that mode, but none of the other map programs give as good a quick overview of local traffic as google nav. Waze is close, but the UI is more cluttered.
Anyway, if you still want to use google nav on JB, just tap the compass before it crashes, and it will keep that setting for future navigation.
I just think it is unbelievable that Navigation has been broken for so long and Google is doing nothing to fix it. Since the JB update, Maps has been updated at least twice, as recent as this week, and it is still broken. The issue is quite widespread. By looking at the Maps reviews on Google Play, if you filter by phone, almost every review by EVO LTE users says the same.
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I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
Sounds like you didn't wipe everything.
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#2 is the only bug I've experienced. Its only happened once since I've owned the phone so I left it alone.
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I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
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1. To fix this problem, go to settings>applications and clear data for the Twitter app. This should fix the FC. If not, uninstall it and reinstall. I had the same problem and that fixed it. If you can't uninstall it using either the market or Settings>applications, use a file manager and go to /system/app/ and find the Twitter.apk and delete it there.
2. I personally haven't had this problem but many have with custom ROMs, I believe both Eternity and Warm TwoPointThree have this fixed now (as well as many others I'm sure). Do a search, I've seen this all over.
3. This used to bother me as well. It is frustrating. I have found no solution. I just made myself get over it because I like the Sense 3.0 Mms app so much, but sounds like you don't have a preference since you tried to replace it, so maybe try GoSMS, Handcent SMS, or any number of other SMS apps on the market.
Good luck!
The only time I ever experienced #2 was when I was running Warm twopointthree with Tiamat kernel. Switched back to the tweaked stock kernel included with warm and haven't seen the issue since. All in all, Warm twopointthree is pretty much everything I could ask of a rom- fast, stable, SVN access to update without requiring a full wipe whenever I get a spare moment, and most importantly an absolutely stellar team of devs behind the scenes.
P.S. wiping your phone when switching between roms is crucially important and can easily cause a myriad of strange and/or inexplicable issues/bugs/FCs etc. Just fyi if you weren't aware...certainly no offense meant
#2 sounds like a kernal issue only. Ziggy kernals were bad for me.
Why dont u use a completely stock rom? Its faster than any evo4g modded imo
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try not using custom kernels for a while..ive experienced the same issues and for me,going to a stock kernel fixes those issues.im on Myn's Warm rom and havent had any problems.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
Never had any of these problems.
veesonic said:
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
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Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
On phones with problem #2, everyone tells me to turn off my autobrightness. It works but then I don't have autobrightness so hit and miss there.
then go away cry baby.. damn
heathmcabee said:
then go away cry baby.. damn
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Lol.
Peace out brodda; I'm finally content w/ the newest version of MIUI. Still, who knows what might happen in the future.
diestarbucks said:
Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
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Lol lol +2
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I hate it when fast food places put mayonnaise on my burgers when I told them not to. Keep that nasty **** off of my sandwich!
#1 - I've never had a problem with the twitter app
#2 - I've had this issue when using the ziggy kernel thats why I don't use it (some ROMs use it)
#3 - I agree with you but I don't get a lot of SMS messages so I haven't had your degree of frustration.
So it boils down to #3 as the only real "issue". I did notice the other day that the lockscreen did have a SMS count. Doubt that helps you at all. Good luck with the new phone and I hope it doesn't have any bugs.. I don't know of any device that is perfect even iPhones have some issues.
I went back to gb. That leak was real bad. Lots of freezing and little issues. Don't say its my device, because i have 2 and both had a lot of the same little issues. The only thing i miss is mms pics being zoomable.
I hated the keyboard and some other Stuff
To me it felt more like a screwed up no good custom Rom by a rookie
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It wasn't your device. It was both of them. It runs like a dream on my phone, not one freeze or any little issues at all.
macked said:
It wasn't your device. It was both of them. It runs like a dream on my phone, not one freeze or any little issues at all.
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I second this. mine runs flawlessly on DAGr8 alpha 1 version, not even 2.
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I have 2 notes... One is perfect with ics and the other exhibits some of the bugs reported.
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I can 3rd this. Its running with zero problems on my device, both A1 and A2 of DaGr8's ROM. It could have been the method you used to flash the ROM, or some of the programs you possibly backed up, but for me i have had zero reboots, only one FC on Touchwiz which i don't use anymore, and no other glitches.
i switched back to GB too, ICS was almost perfect, only Navigon and tether not working (unless paying $50 to ATT).
I miss ICS, fell much smoother than GB, will switch back when we have more steady ROM.
I'm using Alpha II on both mine and my wife's - no issues. As for the keyboard, I'm using the latest Swiftkey 3 Tablet beta.
Out of the number of already active threads on the subject you needed your own?
Thur u arrrrrrgh
I notice the occasional hitch for a few minutes after a restart of the phone but after that everything is fine, though i cant seem to get samsung apps working and lost compatibility with a few apps that don't work even when sideloaded. Gonna stick it out till the final build is ready though.
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I'm on alpha 2 and having the best android experience I have ever had....
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i used the self installing exe rom. The original leak, not a custom rom. I dont want a custom rom either.
I didnt install any backups. I have all the apk's and use appmonster to install them all.
in mms the send and attach buttons where switched and my wife *****ed cause she kept hitting the attach button when she was trying to send.
I dont want a custom rom. If the self installing exe leak rom might be the problem, what other way can it be flashed? Only other thing i did was flash recovery and install SU
If you're having problems most people would say install fresh and DO NOT use a program to restore apps, download them one by one thru the app store.
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Coffinfeeder said:
If you're having problems most people would say install fresh and DO NOT use a program to restore apps, download them one by one thru the app store.
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yeah no kidding. I just said i install all my apps from apk's. Appmoster only starts the apk install one after another. it doesnt install them for you and its not backups.... its apk's
Another thing was the appliction monitor was always turning red just from having something as simple as web browser openned. The memory management seemed to be horable.
Im trying to locate another way to install, maybe odin or something.
It's too bad your against trying any custom roms. For one they get rid of all that at&t stuff you possibly never use; By doing that extra memory is freed up in the process. I didn't have that many issues when I flashed the self installing leak, but I decided to go with DAGR8's Alpha 2, it's faster than the stock leak was. Every time I re-flash a phone, I re-install everything from market, I don't backup anything. It doesn't take that long to type in my user / password and have everything synced back from the market anyway.
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yeah no kidding. I just said i install all my apps from apk's. Appmoster only starts the apk install one after another. it doesnt install them for you and its not backups.... its apk's
Another thing was the appliction monitor was always turning red just from having something as simple as web browser openned. The memory management seemed to be horable.
Im trying to locate another way to install, maybe odin or something.
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I freeze what i dont want.
Market installs APK's !!!! i have all the apk's i want installed and install them MYSELF. I AM NOT installing backups ..... geesh
so everyone happy with the ics must be running deodexex roms??????
that must be it. Like i said, ics leak is crap. its only good if you take and screw and tweak it.
its gonna be real sad when att pushes ota ics update. the phone is going to become a joke in the eyes of regular people who dont mess with these things
I'm running the leak as is, with no mods or root or anything, and it is ****in' fabulous. Aside from the known issue of the TW launcher initially crashing once or twice, it has been pretty much flawless.
battery life isnt very good on ICS.
unibomber said:
battery life isnt very good on ICS.
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This, right here, is why I am avoiding the upgrade.... Hell, it's why I haven't even rooted my phone yet. I would take some glitches and errors if the battery were improved. But since it's worse -- no way. More memory consumption too? Double no way.
How do you go back to gingerbread? i need to go back temporary
demigodchewtoy said:
This, right here, is why I am avoiding the upgrade.... Hell, it's why I haven't even rooted my phone yet. I would take some glitches and errors if the battery were improved. But since it's worse -- no way. More memory consumption too? Double no way.
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It is not worse
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I just got my phone and most of the time when receiving a email I'll pull down the menu and it keeps going back up automatically. After trying like 3 times it finally stays down. Does anyone else has this issue?
Not to insult your intelligence or anything but are you pulling the bar all the way down? When I was on GB if I didn't pull it all the way down it'd wonk out on me and shoot back up if I did it too fast.
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I had the same issue on GB. I head to drag it almost all the way down to the bottom of the screen. Now on ICS I can just flick the bar downwards and it does the rest.
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ChocolateSnow said:
Not to insult your intelligence or anything but are you pulling the bar all the way down? When I was on GB if I didn't pull it all the way down it'd wonk out on me and shoot back up if I did it too fast.
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Yes I pull it all the way down like 3 times then if lucky it will stay down. After reading emails the pull down menu works fine.The work arounds I found is to put my finger at the top of screen and quickly flick downward then it will stay. With my old phone using it's default rom and Cyanogenmod 7, this never happend. The second work around is to use a small app called, One Click Status Bar. Place it on the home screen and when it's tapped the menu drops down.
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I had the same issue on GB. I head to drag it almost all the way down to the bottom of the screen. Now on ICS I can just flick the bar downwards and it does the rest.
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Your phone must be rooted to have ICS. I'm debating on doing this because I like using CyanogenMod. One of the problems with rooted phones is that the market doesn't recognize the phone and paid apps disappear and it force closes alot.
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Your phone must be rooted to have ICS. I'm debating on doing this because I like using CyanogenMod. One of the problems with rooted phones is that the market doesn't recognize the phone and paid apps disappear and it force closes alot.
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I flash around a lot usually spending about a couple weeks on different Roms to test and compare features and I can say I never had a problem with Google play ever recognizing any of my paid apps.
The force closes on the other hand do happen, but very rarely if you run a good rom, and don't do anything you're not supposed to
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Your phone must be rooted to have ICS. I'm debating on doing this because I like using CyanogenMod. One of the problems with rooted phones is that the market doesn't recognize the phone and paid apps disappear and it force closes alot.
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I respect your opinion, but I've been flashing custom roms for quite a while and have never had problems with market /playstore not recognizing or not letting me install unless of course I modified the DPI or something. Andbim afraid I don't know what u mean by paid apps disappearing.
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Your phone must be rooted to have ICS. I'm debating on doing this because I like using CyanogenMod. One of the problems with rooted phones is that the market doesn't recognize the phone and paid apps disappear and it force closes alot.
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I'm rooted and running ics. I have yet to experience any of that. No fc's and no disappearing paid apps
Phalanx7621 said:
I respect your opinion, but I've been flashing custom roms for quite a while and have never had problems with market /playstore not recognizing or not letting me install unless of course I modified the DPI or something. Andbim afraid I don't know what u mean by paid apps disappearing.
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When a phone is rooted the Google server no longer knows what device is being used. You can check this out by logging into Google wallet and look under your device list. You'll also notice that some apps show up for different os like with gingerbread and some don't for ics. After rooting the server doesn't know what apps work with the phone and at times makes some of your paid apps disappear and preventing potential future downloads.
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When a phone is rooted the Google server no longer knows what device is being used. You can check this out by logging into Google wallet and look under your device list. You'll also notice that some apps show up for different os like with gingerbread and some don't for ics. After rooting the server doesn't know what apps work with the phone and at times makes some of your paid apps disappear and preventing potential future downloads.
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Wrong. Learn android before trying to tell something to those that know.
want proof of one. heres my screenshot in the attachment. I've never ran a stock phone. ever.
Not sure why its so small :/
BROKKANIC said:
I'm rooted and running ics. I have yet to experience any of that. No fc's and no disappearing paid apps
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I have almost 300 paid apps and had lots of problems with market in the past. Rooted phones has known issues with the market, apps and force closing. Call Google customer service and they will explain.
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I have almost 300 paid apps and had lots of problems with market in the past. Rooted phones has known issues with the market, apps and force closing. Call Google customer service and they will explain.
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you sir, have issues that most do not. your obviously not capable of using this site.
i have never had an issue with market that I did not cause. FC's are casued by apps not meant for your device or the ROM your running.
You want to argue with people that flash **** almost daily? go call google again, and quit wasting space in our forums
O and if your on stock, what did you expect to get for help by posting an issue with a stock ROM?
Call samsung
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Wrong. Learn android before trying to tell something to those that know.
want proof of one. heres my screenshot in the attachment. I've never ran a stock phone. ever.
Not sure why its so small :/
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No need to be rude. Just because you never had a problem doesn't mean no one will besides I'll have you know that I installed many roms and no android. Thank you!!!
gods_archangel said:
No need to be rude. Just because you never had a problem doesn't mean no one will besides I'll have you know that I installed many roms and no android. Thank you!!!
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I was not being rude, you are being incompetent.
4 million members on this site, you really think that rooting a phone breaks ****?
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you sir, have issues that most do not. your obviously not capable of using this site.
i have never had an issue with market that I did not cause. FC's are casued by apps not meant for your device or the ROM your running.
You want to argue with people that flash **** almost daily? go call google again, and quit wasting space in our forums
O and if your on stock, what did you expect to get for help by posting an issue with a stock ROM?
Call samsung
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Who's having a argument, were just talking. You didn't have to answer my post and you can simply leave.
MotoMudder77 said:
I was not being rude, you are being incompetent.
4 million members on this site, you really think that rooting a phone breaks ****?
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Why call me the word incompetent? You can drop the words (was not) and use, wasn't.
gods_archangel said:
Why call me the word incompetent? You can drop the words (was not) and use, wasn't.
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Very true, I apologize. But you must realize that this site EXISTS for the simple idea that we, the members of it(evidently not all of them), do not want our phones stock.
The only support you'll get from a stock ROM, is from the at&t store.
and the "was not" was meant that way. I feel its a stronger form of the word rather than wasn't
This discussion got troublesome and way, way off topic.
But the bottom line is man, if you want to stay stock, there's really nothing we can do, other than advise to wipe data/factory reset via 3e recovery.
What you may have thought you knew about issues that come by rooting your phone, are maybe 1 in a 100, and most likely caused by the person themselves.
There are a few ROM's that are based on at&t "official" leaks. but there rooted.
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I have almost 300 paid apps and had lots of problems with market in the past. Rooted phones has known issues with the market, apps and force closing. Call Google customer service and they will explain.
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I think you may be confusing some of your facts. That may hold true for some unbranded chinese tablets running ICS. Those ROMs have to operate as a brand name "something else" just to get market to recognize the device.
The same is not true with our phones. Root away! The issues you're concerned about do not exist on name brand android devices.
Seriously, im disappointed. I loved my phone before the update, but now..after getting the update, I hate it. I want it OFF my phone. It totally fd up this phone. Pinch zoom is incredibly SLOW and CHOPPY. It freezes and lags like a SOB. And facebook...forget it. I visited the full site constantly because the mobile site caused too many problems. It used to be so fluid smooth. Now it kerps freezing and lagging. The POST/COMMENT button wont work most of the time. I have tried 2 browsers and Its the same problem on both. Also it wont stay centered when im typing. If I try to scroll it to see my text im typing, it forcfully moves back to the other location. What kind of update is this? It broke System Panel so now the cpu usage meter on the top right stays peaked out at 15xxmhz almost. Is there any way to fix these problems? 1 hour and I already cant stand it. This blows! Id rather use my Touch Pro 2 than this if I could. :/
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Seriously, im disappointed. I loved my phone before the update, but now..after getting the update, I hate it. I want it OFF my phone. It totally fd up this phone. Pinch zoom is incredibly SLOW and CHOPPY. It freezes and lags like a SOB. And facebook...forget it. I visited the full site constantly because the mobile site caused too many problems. It used to be so fluid smooth. Now it kerps freezing and lagging. The POST/COMMENT button wont work most of the time. I have tried 2 browsers and Its the same problem on both. Also it wont stay centered when im typing. If I try to scroll it to see my text im typing, it forcfully moves back to the other location. What kind of update is this? It broke System Panel so now the cpu usage meter on the top right stays peaked out at 15xxmhz almost. Is there any way to fix these problems? 1 hour and I already cant stand it. This blows! Id rather use my Touch Pro 2 than this if I could. :/
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i've found it to be sluggish for me also.
oh, are you able to get google maps working?
for some reason, every single time i load it, it causes my phone to reboot. worked fine before ics.
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i've found it to be sluggish for me also.
oh, are you able to get google maps working?
for some reason, every single time i load it, it causes my phone to reboot. worked fine before ics.
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Im sorry if I came off the wrong way, in a way certain parts are quite speedy...but others, like Facebook took a huge hit. I tried a few of my emulators. They seem to work. Nesoid even works despite what I have heard from others. But it seems to lag on frames. Like, the video frames will appear faster but it will skip many thus the motion is choppy instead of fluid. N64oid works faster. I guess thats a plus. I only tried Goldeneye. Typing seems more accurate, but this sollg and screen jumping business is making it very difficult to type..with what was once cake. It wont stay centered on your text. The text boxes in facebook nuke the cpu as soon as you click inside them. It wasnt bad at all before this. I have not tried maps, but since you asked, I might as well.
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i've found it to be sluggish for me also.
oh, are you able to get google maps working?
for some reason, every single time i load it, it causes my phone to reboot. worked fine before ics.
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Update... Just tried Maps. It works with no problems. Then again, I dont have the extreme latest version. Im 2 or 3 updates behind from newest. Street view also works.
Just tried 2 more browsers to use facebook for. Angel and Dolphin, its horribly slow and unusable...
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Seriously, im disappointed. I loved my phone before the update, but now..after getting the update, I hate it. I want it OFF my phone. It totally fd up this phone. Pinch zoom is incredibly SLOW and CHOPPY. It freezes and lags like a SOB. And facebook...forget it. I visited the full site constantly because the mobile site caused too many problems. It used to be so fluid smooth. Now it kerps freezing and lagging. The POST/COMMENT button wont work most of the time. I have tried 2 browsers and Its the same problem on both. Also it wont stay centered when im typing. If I try to scroll it to see my text im typing, it forcfully moves back to the other location. What kind of update is this? It broke System Panel so now the cpu usage meter on the top right stays peaked out at 15xxmhz almost. Is there any way to fix these problems? 1 hour and I already cant stand it. This blows! Id rather use my Touch Pro 2 than this if I could. :/
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Unlike on locked down Motorola phones, it is perfectly possible to revert to gingerbread.
1. Unlock Bootloader with HTCDev
2. S-OFF with juopunutbear
3. Run Gingerbread RUU
4. You can stay S-OFF and Unlocked, or if you want to, S-ON and relock.
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voxigenboy said:
i've found it to be sluggish for me also.
oh, are you able to get google maps working?
for some reason, every single time i load it, it causes my phone to reboot. worked fine before ics.
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That's a Maps issue, the latest update broke it on the Rezound.
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THE-COPS said:
Seriously, im disappointed. I loved my phone before the update, but now..after getting the update, I hate it. I want it OFF my phone. It totally fd up this phone. Pinch zoom is incredibly SLOW and CHOPPY. It freezes and lags like a SOB. And facebook...forget it. I visited the full site constantly because the mobile site caused too many problems. It used to be so fluid smooth. Now it kerps freezing and lagging. The POST/COMMENT button wont work most of the time. I have tried 2 browsers and Its the same problem on both. Also it wont stay centered when im typing. If I try to scroll it to see my text im typing, it forcfully moves back to the other location. What kind of update is this? It broke System Panel so now the cpu usage meter on the top right stays peaked out at 15xxmhz almost. Is there any way to fix these problems? 1 hour and I already cant stand it. This blows! Id rather use my Touch Pro 2 than this if I could. :/
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Sounds like the perfect time to unlock, root and install a custom ROM.
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That's a Maps issue, the latest update broke it on the Rezound.
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I've uploaded the old Google Maps to Dropbox.
http://db.tt/3tD5DpzQ
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i said ICS sucked since day one, but noooooooobody listened. the kernel is TERRIBLE for one.
jayochs said:
i said ICS sucked since day one, but noooooooobody listened. the kernel is TERRIBLE for one.
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I LOVE ICS, but, I'm also on NeoMAX 2.0.
jayochs said:
i said ICS sucked since day one, but noooooooobody listened. the kernel is TERRIBLE for one.
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Right? I was on gb until like a month or two ago and I still prefer gb firmware over ica firmware. I have yet to try the latest radios but I still love the gb radios
I found Opera Mobile to work better. But damn...and yea, its either revert back or custom ROM. I still have not ever flashed before. Guess its one of those things I worry about because if reading a few horror stories of someones phone being bricked after flashing or phone radio not working.
I have seen people in here praising ICS left and right like it was the best update ever. I dont come in here often enough so maybe I missed the posts saying ICS is slow. I wonder if it is Sense 3.6 causing the slowdown?
Most things are the same probably butvsome stuff is def faster and hardware acceleration/gpu rendering makes everything completely smooth and not choppy like GB. Things will get better with some gud kernels when they release source
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Most things are the same probably butvsome stuff is def faster and hardware acceleration/gpu rendering makes everything completely smooth and not choppy like GB. Things will get better with some gud kernels when they release source
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guda cheese kernels
jayochs said:
guda cheese kernels
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Delicious. Goez gud with ice cream sandwiches.... Oh you didn't know? Yea it's amazing....... lol
jayochs said:
guda cheese kernels
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Delicious. Goez gud with ice cream sandwiches.... Oh you didn't know? Yea it's amazing....... lol
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*om nom nom nom*
Do factory reset in Settings, storage.
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ICS is working flawless and 10x faster than GB. Sounds like you should try to factory reset and try again or somethings wrong. Any there's NOTHING wrong with the kernel....I have no idea why people are saying this, CPU tuner only works for rooted rezounds that have perflock disabled. Try uninstalling it
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Major update from gb to ics will cause problems if you don't wipe the phone.
But to each their own
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
balintmaci said:
smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
blueglide said:
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
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Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.