I've had difficulty running/installing non-Sense ROMs since I've been rooted. I'm not even sure what I did special to get Paranoid Android (2.99 I think was the version) installed and running once. I can install the Viper ROM and MeanBean without issue (am running MeanBean now) but have had an incredibly difficult time installing a CM, AOSP, or AKOP variant. I just get endless boot loops and have no idea what to do remedy the situation. I've attempted to install De-Sensed rEVOLTEd (which is themed sense, right, so I'm not sure why it won't install), CM 10.1, rootbox, among several others to no avail.
So I always just go back to installing MeanBean and suffering through Sense. HELP!
I can't figure out what my problem is. Throwing ROMs on my Nexus S 4G was infinitely easier... and I'm not sure where to start when it comes to flashing, what I need to flash, etc.
I'm not a TOTAL noob. I've done quite a bit of reading all over these forums but just can't wrap my head around what I need to do or why I'm finding it impossible to install something nonSENSE.
Hardware version 0003
Software version MeanBean_3.04
Kernel 3.4.10-g19136fe
Baseband 1.12.11.0809
Build 3.16.651.3
Should I try to move to S-OFF? Would that be the best route to go right now? Am I too far gone and should I just be happy I have a functioning phone right now? Any and all help is appreciated!
Thanks!
What Hboot are you on? Unless you're on Hboot 1.12 you have to flash the kernel separately from the ROM. MeanBean and Viper both have S-on kernel installers to make flashing a ROM while S-on easier. S-off is the way to go though.
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trippworthy said:
I've had difficulty running/installing non-Sense ROMs since I've been rooted. I'm not even sure what I did special to get Paranoid Android (2.99 I think was the version) installed and running once. I can install the Viper ROM and MeanBean without issue (am running MeanBean now) but have had an incredibly difficult time installing a CM, AOSP, or AKOP variant. I just get endless boot loops and have no idea what to do remedy the situation. I've attempted to install De-Sensed rEVOLTEd (which is themed sense, right, so I'm not sure why it won't install), CM 10.1, rootbox, among several others to no avail.
So I always just go back to installing MeanBean and suffering through Sense. HELP!
I can't figure out what my problem is. Throwing ROMs on my Nexus S 4G was infinitely easier... and I'm not sure where to start when it comes to flashing, what I need to flash, etc.
I'm not a TOTAL noob. I've done quite a bit of reading all over these forums but just can't wrap my head around what I need to do or why I'm finding it impossible to install something nonSENSE.
Hardware version 0003
Software version MeanBean_3.04
Kernel 3.4.10-g19136fe
Baseband 1.12.11.0809
Build 3.16.651.3
Should I try to move to S-OFF? Would that be the best route to go right now? Am I too far gone and should I just be happy I have a functioning phone right now? Any and all help is appreciated!
Thanks!
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s-off is the way to go.. makes thing much easier!! :good:
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What Hboot are you on? Unless you're on Hboot 1.12 you have to flash the kernel separately from the ROM. MeanBean and Viper both have S-on kernel installers to make flashing a ROM while S-on easier. S-off is the way to go though.
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HBOOT-1.19.0000
So, say I wanted to install RootBox or CM10.1, I'd have to install a kernel like Komodo first?
ie flash ROM, kernel, Gapps? (I know something like this has been asked before, and I swear I've tried just about every configuration I can think of and still haven't had much luck)
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s-off is the way to go.. makes thing much easier!! :good:
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Looks like I'm going to be moving to S-OFF then soon... Keeping S-ON at first glance always appeared easier to me.
Check out don't panic if you haven't already. It's a bit out of date but the over all it can apply to most modern htc devices
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Ok please forgive I am a noob with half a brain lol. My ? is (is there a way to get ics roms working with out using chads kernel?) I do give credit tho he helped a lot out. I love the ics roms and went back and flashed gingerbread and it wasn't doing it for me lol but would like to get the ics rom working without having to flash it with a different kernel. I would like to see how these roms are with the kernels they come with. I have a htc evo 3d cdma 1.5 h-boot s on. If anyone would take the time to give a noob a hand in this matter or direct me in the right direction I would be very grateful. I have read the treads and just am not getting how to do a few things if pointed in the right direction I'm sure I can figure it out.
1. Downgrade to hboot 1.4 s-off (my recommendation).
2. Switch to 1.5 s-off.
3. Flash using 4ext which should flash the kernel properly.
The reason I recommend #1 is because 1.4 s-off people seem to have the least problems with bootloops.
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evo3d6 said:
Ok please forgive I am a noob with half a brain lol. My ? is (is there a way to get ics roms working with out using chads kernel?) I do give credit tho he helped a lot out. I love the ics roms and went back and flashed gingerbread and it wasn't doing it for me lol but would like to get the ics rom working without having to flash it with a different kernel. I would like to see how these roms are with the kernels they come with. I have a htc evo 3d cdma 1.5 h-boot s on. If anyone would take the time to give a noob a hand in this matter or direct me in the right direction I would be very grateful. I have read the treads and just am not getting how to do a few things if pointed in the right direction I'm sure I can figure it out.
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coal686 said:
1. Downgrade to hboot 1.4 s-off (my recommendation).
2. Switch to 1.5 s-off.
3. Flash using 4ext which should flash the kernel properly.
The reason I recommend #1 is because 1.4 s-off people seem to have the least problems with bootloops.
Sent from my PG86100
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I agree with the downgrade to 1.4 S-Off. I'm not 100% sure about switching back to 1.5 (doesn't really matter as long as you're S-off anyway).
The main issue people were having was the firmware (adsp.img).
Chad had a test where he made the updated adsp.img file, and people were flashing it and reporting success on flashing ICS roms.
You can only flash if you're S-Off, and I'm assuming you're talking about the Sense 3.6 roms.
Check his androidfilehost for the file, I believe it's still there.
Long story short… I have been very busy for the last 6 months and not been keeping up with all the changes for the CDMA EVO 3D. I am not really sure the best way to get from here to there. I am not a noob and don’t really need my hand held or a dummy’s guide (I have been messing with Android since the HTC Hero and rooted lots of phones and pads). There has been just to many new ways to root and leaked roms…etc. It would be nice to skip all the BS and get caught up with what most people are currently doing.
My current config…
H-Boot: 1.40 s-off via Revolutionary Method
Recovery: TWRP v2.1.1
Rom: ViperRom Redline v2.5 RC2
Would it be better to just RUU back to stock Gingerbread then upgrade to ICS and re-root or is better way to get to ICS with root???? I am not trying save anything on my phone. I am a big fan of wiping and super wiping multiple times before loading a new rom. Also is there any benefit to H-Boot 1.5 or higher?
If this has already be asked can you point me to the correct thread.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Shark_HTC said:
Long story short… I have been very busy for the last 6 months and not been keeping up with all the changes for the CDMA EVO 3D. I am not really sure the best way to get from here to there. I am not a noob and don’t really need my hand held or a dummy’s guide (I have been messing with Android since the HTC Hero and rooted lots of phones and pads). There has been just to many new ways to root and leaked roms…etc. It would be nice to skip all the BS and get caught up with what most people are currently doing.
My current config…
H-Boot: 1.40 s-off via Revolutionary Method
Recovery: TWRP v2.1.1
Rom: ViperRom Redline v2.5 RC2
Would it be better to just RUU back to stock Gingerbread then upgrade to ICS and re-root or is better way to get to ICS with root???? I am not trying save anything on my phone. I am a big fan of wiping and super wiping multiple times before loading a new rom. Also is there any benefit to H-Boot 1.5 or higher?
If this has already be asked can you point me to the correct thread.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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If I'm reading right, just search the development forums for an ics rom, flash it and you're good to go. NEVER TAKE OTA
Sent from my EVO 3DMA with a little "Common Sense"
Tl;dr.
Just kidding. I'm running the latest ics rooted Roms on hboot 1.4 revolutionary s-off. I ran freeza's firmware update without the new hboot. This lets me run everything except the new kernel (which most new Roms don't use). If you insist on the new kernel, you can upgrade the hboot too, but you lose the ability to flash aosp and GB Roms.
So, in short, you just need to pick a rooted ics Rom and go. I like zr3dx, Meanrom, homebrew, or common ground.
I also recommend you change to 4ext recovery. It's really nice.
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coal686 said:
Tl;dr.
Just kidding. I'm running the latest ics rooted Roms on hboot 1.4 revolutionary s-off. I ran freeza's firmware update without the new hboot. This lets me run everything except the new kernel (which most new Roms don't use). If you insist on the new kernel, you can upgrade the hboot too, but you lose the ability to flash aosp and GB Roms.
So, in short, you just need to pick a rooted ics Rom and go. I like zr3dx, Meanrom, homebrew, or common ground.
I also recommend you change to 4ext recovery. It's really nice.
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Thanks that was exactly what I needed and I was getting tired of reading all the posts about the VM fiasco, and sticking a wire in the SD card…etc.
You are right it was “Tl;dr” but I also hate threads that go on forever because you don’t have enough info to answer the question.
Thanks again
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Thanks that was exactly what I needed and I was getting tired of reading all the posts about the VM fiasco, and sticking a wire in the SD card…etc.
You are right it was “Tl;dr” but I also hate threads that go on forever because you don’t have enough info to answer the question.
Thanks again
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More information > less information :thumbup:
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after downgrading from ICS to GB, my free ram become low from free 380mb on ICS to 222 on GB
Well... After an issue with the digitizer in my phone I had to finally have it recently replaced. I had recently loaded the ICS OTA and actually for the most part liked it alot. I have rooted and done some roms with my 3d when it was Hboot 1.4 with Rev S off and root method. But my phone is currently Hboot 1.5 after replacing it. I havent loaded it to the OTA for ICS. But im trying to decide what I want to do. Id like to root and S off if I can and find a Rom/OTA that works great with the best performance and options with reduced bloat. ICS is pretty cool that I used, but seemed like some bugs with it to. Any suggestions of help on getting me there and in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Ive done some searches here and there on the forum. But really after taking time out for a medical issue I havent been in the loop til now. Thanks ahead of time for any help and suggestions you can push my way.
constevens said:
But im trying to decide what I want to do. Id like to root and S off if I can and find a Rom/OTA that works great with the best performance and options with reduced bloat. ICS is pretty cool that I used, but seemed like some bugs with it to. Any suggestions of help on getting me there and in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
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Here's what I would do in your situation:
1. Do HTC unlock and flash 4EXT recovery
2. Backup current ROM so you have a nandroid of GB stock
3. Root GB stock ROM and do JuopunutBear (wire trick) with GB version to gain S-OFF
4. Flash 2.89 RUU.exe to get solid Sprint ICS base (firmware and software)
5. Flash Jbear Sprint ICS (1.58.5858) or engineering (ENG) bootloader
6. Flash 4EXT recovery (via fastboot flash recovery.img)
7. Backup current ROM so you have a nandroid of ICS stock
8. Flash whatever ROM's you want to try and check them out
If all the ROM's you are interested in are ICS Sense, then the JB Sprint ICS bootloader is fine, but if you want to flash and run GB and AOSP ROM's the ENG bootloader is a better choice, but it won't run the 2.89 stock kernel.
That's one opinion.
ramjet73
Thanks Ramjet. What are you using or have you used? Is ICS the latest? Any other good stuff out there?
If anyone else has suggestions or preferences Id love to hear them.
Thanks!!
constevens said:
Thanks Ramjet. What are you using or have you used? Is ICS the latest? Any other good stuff out there?
If anyone else has suggestions or preferences Id love to hear them.
Thanks!!
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The Sprint ICS 2.89.651.2 release with Sense 3.6 is the latest official build, but there have been several CM10 based ROM's released using the AOSP 4.1.1 (Jelly Bean) base, and some Sense 4.0 and 4.1 ROM's that run on the E3D.
My favorites are still MeanROM ICS 2.6 and SOS M 2.6.1 which use the same base. Here's a post I wrote back in May that enumerates the fixes mikeyxda had done to the VM leak base at that time and most of those fixes and enhancements were transferred to the Sprint ICS 2.89 based version, with some new ones added. SOS M is de-Sensed and offers a lot of customization built-in and via the Aroma installer with a minimal amount of effort. Both ROM's are fully functional and have good reliability, performance and battery life.
I've tested a lot of interesting ROM's with some unique features including Paranoid Devil with a tablet configuration option and Charmander with Sense 4, but they both have some stuff not working, including 3D and WiMax/4G. If you don't need those features you might also want to try some of the AOSP ROM's (CM9, CM10 and MIUI) since they are very light and clean, and a lot of the current development activity seems to be with those ROM's. If you want a full ICS Sense 3.6 based ROM with a lot of mods integrated, Cool ICS is worth a look too.
ramjet73
Thanks Ramjet. Im gonna check out the MeanRom ICS, SOS and Cool ICS. In past ive liked a sense based rom but Im open to other stuff. My main thing is wanting as few as issues or non working things as possible. Even the OTA of ICS has to muc issues. But the in general feel and look was good.
Thanks for the input and direction. I may hit you up on some advice if thats cool? Thanks again.
Just use the search function to find all the info on the stuff above Ramjet? or is there a good central location that might have links for everything?
constevens said:
Just use the search function to find all the info on the stuff above Ramjet? or is there a good central location that might have links for everything?
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A lot of the information and links that you will need are in mpgrimm2's guides in this forum. Just do an advanced search on threads started by user mpgrimm2 and you should have most of the information and links you need in those threads.
ramjet73
Thanks you Ramjet!
Ok So I got it unlocked. and installed the APK of the 4EXXT recovery. But its giving me some issues saying I need S-off before I can use it? I assume its a program that runs on the Phone not a recovery like ive been used to with the boot loader? If its a flash that flashes the boot loader i seem to be having issues finding it. How do I need to go about rooting? Is root the same as S off? Its been a while since doing all this kinda stuff and just getting back into it. Thanks for any direction you can give me.
constevens said:
Ok So I got it unlocked. and installed the APK of the 4EXXT recovery. But its giving me some issues saying I need S-off before I can use it? I assume its a program that runs on the Phone not a recovery like ive been used to with the boot loader? If its a flash that flashes the boot loader i seem to be having issues finding it. How do I need to go about rooting? Is root the same as S off? Its been a while since doing all this kinda stuff and just getting back into it. Thanks for any direction you can give me.
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This post by mpgrimm2 (part of his overall guide) covers flashing a custom recovery (like 4EXT) and superuser from the PC command prompt via fastboot. Those are the two steps required for rooting, after you have HTC unlocked.
Once you've done that you can move on to gaining S-OFF with either the JuopunutBear (wire trick) or Hboot downgrade method, which is setting the security off for the NAND memory of your phone, and allows you to flash more stuff and not have to use the fastboot command to do it.
It's probably time to move on to the Q&A forum since this has changed from an advice thread into a help thread.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
This post by mpgrimm2 (part of his overall guide) covers flashing a custom recovery (like 4EXT) and superuser from the PC command prompt via fastboot. Those are the two steps required for rooting, after you have HTC unlocked.
Once you've done that you can move on to gaining S-OFF with either the JuopunutBear (wire trick) or Hboot downgrade method, which is setting the security off for the NAND memory of your phone, and allows you to flash more stuff and not have to use the fastboot command to do it.
It's probably time to move on to the Q&A forum since this has changed from an advice thread into a help thread.
ramjet73
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Have more questions but will gladly move it over to the Q and A if you dont mind more questions... So many write ups on stuff.. Little confusing sometimes.
Thanks RamJet.
Here is my questions thread for help in the Q and A section..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31102158#post31102158
Hi, I rooted last night.
I'm boot unlocked.
S-ON
TWRP 2.6.3 (updated by Goo Manager)
SU User 1.8.6
Unlock took me down to 4.1.1
I tried to flash the most recent CM ROM in Goo Manager after a dalvik cache wipe and got stuck on boot. Is this likely because I'm S-ON or because I didn't use the right type of wipe?
Also, I know the MikMik ROM was the gold standard for a clean, lean and stable ROM without many bells and whistles on OG EVO. What is the equivalent for LTE/jewel? And so I need S-OFF for it?
Thanks in advance!
You have to flash the kernel separately from the ROM when S-on. Having said that, you don't have to be S-off to flash a ROM, but, as easy as the process is, it's worth it to be S-off. Take a look at the top link in my sig for more info. As for ROM advice, just start flashing until you find what you like. If you ask ten different people what their favorite is, you'll likely get ten different answers
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
Something equivalent I'd say "MeanBean " read the OP for this rom
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Thank you!
Thank you. I was finally starting to understand that I would probably need to S-Off so I could flash the kernel for a ROM other than one that uses a stock kernel. I was just hoping to avoid it, because I usually know just enough to be dangerous to my electronic devices...
I'll be sure to check out Mean Bean.
Mean Bean actually has a kernel installer to make flashing while S-on easier. Just make sure you read the Mean Bean OP so you follow the correct steps to get it installed properly.
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Ive been S-On for years now with no issues, currently 2.09 and 3.15. Running Sense 5 Y10 with ElementalX Kernel. I was curious if there are any advantages to having the latest firmware which means going S-Off ?? Like I said, its running fine and snappy with no glitches, PRL updates, but with newer ROMS coming out, I dont know if it will conflict with my older firmware, Also if I do go S-Off, can I keep my current Sense 5 rom ? Thanks for any input, Im kind of old school and if it aint broke, dont fix it.
Going s-off as far as I can tell doesn't affect the rom. In my opinion it makes it a lot easier to flash the roms. The main reason I went s-off was to run the operation jellybean. I had to downgrade my touch panel. I'd you are hboot 2.09 I recommend rumrunner. It's quite simple to use but make sure your antivirus software is disabled or else it most likely will not work.
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Eventually you will need to get the latest firmware so in fact you can use the newer builds. As well as mentioned above it makes it easier to flash the ROMs. To go s-off is a quick and easy process. I'm running omni kit kat and its smooth as butter...