4.2.2 problems.... - Nexus 10 General

Anyone else having issues with apps randomly restarting, live backgrounds going black, and widgets disapearing for a sec then reloading every time you hit the home button? I run avast for antivirus and anti theft but it keeps shutting down for a few mins then reloading ( or appears to be because it disappears from the app tray and then shows back up a few minutes later) , then I'll be in the middle of a movie on Netflix and boom it restarts the app. Any clue what's going on. BTW I'm rooted with cwm.
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Tesla67 said:
Anyone else having issues with apps randomly restarting, live backgrounds going black, and widgets disapearing for a sec then reloading every time you hit the home button? I run avast for antivirus and anti theft but it keeps shutting down for a few mins then reloading ( or appears to be because it disappears from the app tray and then shows back up a few minutes later) , then I'll be in the middle of a movie on Netflix and boom it restarts the app. Any clue what's going on. BTW I'm rooted with cwm.
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Wow.. This is called screen redraw and it is usually something that plagues older devices like the Nexus S that are short on RAM.. Or even newer devices that have so many background instances going the system starts releasing things from memory to free up some RAM for active apps. The homescreen is usually the first to get removed from memory.. Hence, when you go back, it has to "redraw" the homescreen..
For you to get homescreen redraws with the Nexus 10 you have to be running a ludicrous amount of apps all at once.. IMO Avast and Security suites on an Android device are highly unnecessary.

styckx said:
Wow.. This is called screen redraw and it is usually something that plagues older devices like the Nexus S that are short on RAM.. Or even newer devices that have so many background instances going the system starts releasing things from memory to free up some RAM for active apps. The homescreen is usually the first to get removed from memory.. Hence, when you go back, it has to "redraw" the homescreen..
For you to get homescreen redraws with the Nexus 10 you have to be running a ludicrous amount of apps all at once.. IMO Avast and Security suites on an Android device are highly unnecessary.
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This happens to me on my Nexus 10 after fresh reboots with only going from the browser to the homescreen.

I use my tablet at school so the avast is for the anti theft. looks like it was caused by low mem. Only 100 MBs where avalible restarted going to see if it happens again and what app is having issues. FYI this wasn't the first time I restarted to try and fix the redraw issue.
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Redraw issue? Never face so far in Nexus 10, unlike my S III where redraw like nobody business.
Anti virus was really unnecessary app, try unload it to see whether it solve your problem or not.

Andrewtst said:
Redraw issue? Never face so far in Nexus 10, unlike my S III where redraw like nobody business.
Anti virus was really unnecessary app, try unload it to see whether it solve your problem or not.
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I have the exact opposite problem. My nexus 10 redraws like crazy and my old SIII and now Note 2 have never redrawn.

Tesla67 said:
Anyone else having issues with apps randomly restarting, live backgrounds going black, and widgets disapearing for a sec then reloading every time you hit the home button? I run avast for antivirus and anti theft but it keeps shutting down for a few mins then reloading ( or appears to be because it disappears from the app tray and then shows back up a few minutes later) , then I'll be in the middle of a movie on Netflix and boom it restarts the app. Any clue what's going on. BTW I'm rooted with cwm.
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Home screen redraw happens to me on stock launcher, same as 4.2.1, exiting from browsers. When it happens it is very quick to recover but home screens switching is for a couple of seconds very laggy.
Not a big deal though....

I don't know that it is true, full redraw, as I have the same issue, but the difference between it and normal is redraw is my non widget icons never disappear. From my perspective, it seems that Android 4.2+ has been keen on refreshing widgets every time one goes back to the home screen...where it seems that it simply wants to make sure that it gets the latest data for the widgets. This is anecdotal, of course.
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NickTheMajin said:
I have the exact opposite problem. My nexus 10 redraws like crazy and my old SIII and now Note 2 have never redrawn.
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Weird. Haha! I know Note II won't redraw as 2gb RAM was enough to prevent it, but this was different case for 1gb RAM S III.

Glad to report it hasn't redrawn since I restarted it. Netflix was the culprit was using massive amount of ram for some reason.
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Andrewtst said:
Weird. Haha! I know Note II won't redraw as 2gb RAM was enough to prevent it, but this was different case for 1gb RAM S III.
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Oh I didn't take it into consideration that you may have the international GSIII. I had the Verizon SIII so both my GSIII and now my Note 2 had 2gigs of ram and no redraws.
My Nexus 10 though, redraws like crazy. Hopefully the next update fixes it.

I have definitely had redraw issues since updating to 4.2.2. Also my live wall paper goes black sometimes, usually upon booting up the device. Didn't happen before. Gaming is definitely better on 4.2.2 though

NickTheMajin said:
Oh I didn't take it into consideration that you may have the international GSIII. I had the Verizon SIII so both my GSIII and now my Note 2 had 2gigs of ram and no redraws.
My Nexus 10 though, redraws like crazy. Hopefully the next update fixes it.
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That why I want to replace my International S III, waiting for all manufacturer announcing new phone. Now do targettting on Xperia Z, but will check out what HTC give tonight and coming 14/March on how S IV look like.
Samsung use 1GB for international S III was a big mistake and unfair.

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Home screen lag??

I had home screen loading lag before but fixed it by disabling s-voice and after a few days the home screen loading lag (a few seconds) came back. What is making it take so long to load?
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uf21 said:
I had home screen loading lag before but fixed it by disabling s-voice and after a few days the home screen loading lag (a few seconds) came back. What is making it take so long to load?
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I agree, its just as bad as the SG2 for lag. It can be as long as 2 seconds or more to come on.
S-Voice made no difference really for me, which for the record is complete rubbish!
I must admit though, it may be since i rooted it with the CF kernel... I can't recall the issue before, but then I did root it within minutes of powering it on.
I wanted to share this with the forum. I bought the Galaxy S3 as soon as it came out and immediately installed the same apps that I had on the S2. My S2 never lagged and had a brilliant low battery usage, so my dissapiontment was great that the S3 consumed battery like cold beer on a summerday and was lagging up to several seconds between home screens. Finally today after reading this thread I thought of removing my widgets one after one and checking lag each time. Lag could be confirmed with 100% certainty by going to settings>wifi and then going back to home screen and switch. Every single time it would lag up to several seconds. When I uninstalled Palmary weather widget, every single trace og lag was completely gone. I have tested this about 100 times now, restarted the phone several times. The result is, no lag at all without palmary and every single time I add Palmary weather as a widget again, it starts lagging. Maybe it isn´t Palmary for everyone experiencing this problem, but try removing widgets one after one and testing or remove them all and add them one after the other, while testing in between. The only problem I have with the S3 now (stock rom updated and rooted) is the terrible cell standby power consumption. I solved this by only using only gsm for now, but this is not acceptable and I expect Samsung to confirm this problem and fix it, and do it fast. My S2 is a far superior phone as things are now, except from design.
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Cell standby isn't using a lot of power, its being calculated incorrectly.
In the stats it should be a draw of 3.4ma but instead someone forgot the . So it thinks its using 34ma.
It isn't
Its only a mistake in stats.
This had been well documented here.
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Ok, but nevertheless, it´s eating up the juice way too fast with mobile data enabled. The S2 didn´t do that.
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Ok, but nevertheless, it´s eating up the juice way too fast with mobile data enabled. The S2 didn´t do that.
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Flash a different modem and test.
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Thanks for the info John. I tried your thought of removing the weather widget but it didn't improve my 1-2sec lag from switching on and off for me. It happents intermittently and I dnt have too many things running anyway. Its strange to say the least.
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Use nova and set animation scale to 0.5x
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But if there are other handsets that don't have lag with the touchwiz, then we shouldn't have to install nova to cure the problem. I already have 0.5 for the animations. I'm pretty sure that its widget/app related but hey. This is what happens in complicated machines.
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But if there are other handsets that don't have lag with the touchwiz, then we shouldn't have to install nova to cure the problem. I already have 0.5 for the animations. I'm pretty sure that its widget/app related but hey. This is what happens in complicated machines.
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Agreed, it's just ****ty programing from Samsung
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Noticed something else. I had cpu reduction for power saving. Once I cancelled that the lag is gone unless I had multiple apps running in the backround. So that may play some role as well.
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This isn't exactly a scientific answer but when I press my home button lightly there is a delay for the screen to come on but if I push it harder the screen comes on right away. True Story

Multitasking - might have found improvement?

Hey so I've been toying around with the multi-tasking and might have a tip that works for you.
Would be interested to see if it helps others as well.
I removed panels from my home screen and it seems to have improved mult-tasking.
I personally don't need 7 panels...
Simply click the home button to get to the panel browser, long-press a panel and drag it to remove.
Does this help with anyone else or am I imagining things?
I have it set to only five panels and so multi tasking isn't any better.
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Hey so I've been toying around with the multi-tasking and might have a tip that works for you.
Would be interested to see if it helps others as well.
I removed panels from my home screen and it seems to have improved mult-tasking.
I personally don't need 7 panels...
Simply click the home button to get to the panel browser, long-press a panel and drag it to remove.
Does this help with anyone else or am I imagining things?
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Every little thing you do helps with memory. Live wallpaper? Memory, around 30MB. Widgets? Each widget takes up memory. I've had 1x1 brightness widgets take up 2MB each time. They'll add up.
So you can remove screens, remove those big ass HTC widgets, and keep things lean and you will save memory. Every bit counts on this phone because HTC has screwed it up.
To clarify, since you seem to think HTC screwed up, this phone has plenty of RAM. THAT isn't the issue with this multitasking. They made it too aggressive. I've heard that they fixed it on the One X, and I'm sure they'll apply a similar fix to us. And custom ROMs have fixed those problems as well. It isn't a hardware issue, it's a software issue.
Edit: that was directed at the poster above me, I thought I hit the quote button but I guess not.
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To clarify, since you seem to think HTC screwed up, this phone has plenty of RAM. THAT isn't the issue with this multitasking. They made it too aggressive. I've heard that they fixed it on the One X, and I'm sure they'll apply a similar fix to us. And custom ROMs have fixed those problems as well. It isn't a hardware issue, it's a software issue.
Edit: that was directed at the poster above me, I thought I hit the quote button but I guess not.
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Well reason cause the apps keeps closing so fast is not cause of the ram left, is because the way the phone saves more battery it kills apps like Facebook that used too much ram, I remember on OG evo days we did this too to make sure our phone lasted a full day or close to 12 hours now the htc did it everyone is piss and want them to "fixed it", anyways I do find it annoying sometimes but I feel like going back home and launch the app is much better then using recent apps sometimes ,
It would be nice if they gave u the option..I'd sacrifice some battery life if a panel would stay open without a reload within literally 10 secs..it def ruins multitasking..all multi tasking does now is bring u back to the app u were using and starting over ..
It's sad to say that HTC has implemented worst multitasking than even the iPhone has.
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Well reason cause the apps keeps closing so fast is not cause of the ram left, is because the way the phone saves more battery it kills apps like Facebook that used too much ram, I remember on OG evo days we did this too to make sure our phone lasted a full day or close to 12 hours now the htc did it everyone is piss and want them to "fixed it", anyways I do find it annoying sometimes but I feel like going back home and launch the app is much better then using recent apps sometimes ,
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It's both. There's not much available RAM at bootup because of all the extra crap HTC has put in there. And then on top of that, its overly aggressive app killer options. And then on top of that, its data/background process pause/kill for everything else.
But the RAM thing definitely doesn't help. All I know is when I boot up Sense 4 or boot up CM9 there's 150 on S4 and 390 on CM9 of free RAM. The other stuff hurts too, but RAM being low to start with (about 100MB less than the EVO 3D thanks to video memory) makes it worse.
For those saying "this phone has plenty of RAM" you're right if you never boot up. But once it boots up, 300 of it is gone for video RAM. The original 4G had about 100 go to that, and the 3D had about 200. So "plenty of RAM" means 700, which isn't a ton when you see how much Sense and HTC fills it.
I agree there is a multitasking problem and to bad HTC didn't have foresight to need a extra 512 of ram even... However I have grown use to the multitasking and while it is bad to a point doesn't bother me to much.
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I'm not seeing the problem here. If you back out of an app with the back button, Android kills the app; if you leave the app by pressing the home button, it retains the app. For the last week and a half or so, I've been reading A Game of Thrones via the Kindle app and press home to leave it every time. Whenever I fire it back up, it's right back on the page I left. I don't play any demanding games on my phone so I'm not sure if RAM is a bottleneck in that instance, but these phones aren't exactly staved for memory.
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I'm not seeing the problem here. If you back out of an app with the back button, Android kills the app; if you leave the app by pressing the home button, it retains the app. For the last week and a half or so, I've been reading A Game of Thrones via the Kindle app and press home to leave it every time. Whenever I fire it back up, it's right back on the page I left. I don't play any demanding games on my phone so I'm not sure if RAM is a bottleneck in that instance, but these phones aren't exactly staved for memory.
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When you use other apps is diferentes Like Tapatalk and Facebook
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It varies on the app. Browsers use much more and will trigger it quite a bit faster than most things.
It must certainly be dependent on the app, because I'm developing my own App and while testing I'm noticing that the tasker is not killing it. I can hit the home screen and be away for multiple hours, and open the app back up, and I will be at the same activity (screen) I left off at.
I meant it varies depending on what other apps you use. If you use apps that are all 30 mb it might take a bit. But open a browser and do 3 tabs or 1 tab with flash content and you'll have your old apps close.
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It would be nice if they gave u the option..I'd sacrifice some battery life if a panel would stay open without a reload within literally 10 secs..it def ruins multitasking..all multi tasking does now is bring u back to the app u were using and starting over ..
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Totally agree. It's very frustrating in my opinion.... Hopefully there's a fix soon for this.
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[Q] S4 UI is laggy and it pisses me off

It pisses me off to see me and many others complain about such a basic thing as LAG in this "super powerful" device.
What is the point of all this tons of CPU, huge RAM and etc., if it cannot manage basic tasks quickly. that's great that i can play 3D games, but I want my phone to be responsive as it used to be in the beginning.
How come I need to wait for 5 seconds for my contact list to load? 3 seconds for my SMS to load, 2 seconds for an app to load in the application center. 1.5 second until it responds to a home button. You expect this kind of basic tasks to be done INSTANTLY.
So what if I have lots of contacts? Doesn't Android follow BASIC programming concepts?
That is first load the frame, then show LOADING, then load the most necessary (in that case would be the first part of the list) and then load the rest. This way it doesn't feel laggy for the user. How come it simply loads for 5 seconds without any response and then shows ALL at once.
Everything is laggy, almost anything I press takes 1-2 seconds to respond the first time. Second time is mostly instant.
Tried to clean cache of all apps, using memory cleaners, disable double home click, I am at version 4.3, using Go Launcher.
How can I find if there's a specific app that causing it? Or what should I clean to make it go smooth as it used to be when it was new? all these task managers and such don't make ANY difference. Total waste of time.
Don't mind me being pissed and thank you for your input
P.S. - My device is not rooted.
yeah....that's why i put my S4 aside and bought the G2. it's touchwiz. it's horribly optimized and has been since JB. on ICS, touchwiz was great. it was snappy, fast, awesome. it was amazing on my S3. then the S3 got JB, and it turned to utter garbage. now, every samsung phone since JB is awful.
they really need to scrap TW and code it all over again.
I'm not getting this 5 second lag. 1 and a half seconds perhaps on the contact list and I have maybe 210 people on there.
If you're getting 5 seconds of lag I think something's up. I'm getting pretty quick responses WITH Power-Saving Mode enabled. With it disabled I don't really notice anything different tbh lol.
Sorry you're having a pain of a time. If you're going to get a new phone I would suggest the Nexus 5 :laugh:
I'm stock non-rooted.
Nova Launcher
That's it.
johno86 said:
I'm not getting this 5 second lag. 1 and a half seconds perhaps on the contact list and I have maybe 210 people on there.
If you're getting 5 seconds of lag I think something's up. I'm getting pretty quick responses WITH Power-Saving Mode enabled. With it disabled I don't really notice anything different tbh lol.
Sorry you're having a pain of a time. If you're going to get a new phone I would suggest the Nexus 5 :laugh:
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Nah, I'm not gonna get a new phone just because of that.
Could you perhaps tell me with which accounts you sync your contact list? I would assume that's related. Also are you trying it after your has been idle for a while? (it's much more responsive when I open it the second time)
Because of all the bloat you have installed...take off go launcher lol
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Go launcher is the worst. Go to the dev settings and change animation time to 0.5x or off, get apex or nova and use the fastest animation speeds, try different dialer & messaging apps. Don't use memory cleaners or task managers just delete whatever apps you don't use. Basically avoid using as much touchwiz crap as possible lol. Also know that live wallpaper and a lot of widgets cash slow things down too. I would think keeping all the stupid proximity sensor stuff on doesn't help either.
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It really does suck how slow this phone is considering it's hardware. Samsung needs to hire some new people because my girlfriend's htc one is very smooth and snappy with almost no lag (minus att 's slow 4g network) I wish htc would pull their heads out of their a**es and build good phones with good cameras with removable batteries and sd cards :banghead:
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If you go through and disable stuff like crazy it improves, but that doesn't really speak well for Samsung.
Frankly I'm done with 'em as a company.
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If you go through and disable stuff like crazy it improves, but that doesn't really speak well for Samsung.
Frankly I'm done with 'em as a company.
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I agree. But with htc in the sh*tter and Samsung heading in a similar direction, what other manufacturer is worth a damn? Or even half of one?
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I'm using nova prime as well as quite a few xposed mods including XuiMod.
All my nova settings are at faster than light, XuiMod settings are also set to fast, and I've set the transition animation scales to 0 /. 5 as well.
My S4 flies. I have no complaints at all. I've used titanium and gotten rid of all the BS too.
I agree TW has a lot going on but can be set up quite good and run quite fast. I've looked at other phones over and over again, trying to get back into flashing ROMs, but I keep landing back at my S4. It's still an awesome phone
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Don't mistaken transition speed for loading/processing speed which are two totally different things. The S4 is no slouch, if it's "lagging" like you said, it's an app for sure. I nor anyone I know with an S4 has experienced this phantom lag. But then again we don't blow up our phone with launchers, widgets, or 5 different apps telling me my battery level and apps running. Try using stock everything (launchers, dialers*lol*, messaging*lol*)
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whatever61 said:
It pisses me off to see me and many others complain about such a basic thing as LAG in this "super powerful" device.
What is the point of all this tons of CPU, huge RAM and etc., if it cannot manage basic tasks quickly. that's great that i can play 3D games, but I want my phone to be responsive as it used to be in the beginning.
How come I need to wait for 5 seconds for my contact list to load? 3 seconds for my SMS to load, 2 seconds for an app to load in the application center. 1.5 second until it responds to a home button. You expect this kind of basic tasks to be done INSTANTLY.
So what if I have lots of contacts? Doesn't Android follow BASIC programming concepts?
That is first load the frame, then show LOADING, then load the most necessary (in that case would be the first part of the list) and then load the rest. This way it doesn't feel laggy for the user. How come it simply loads for 5 seconds without any response and then shows ALL at once.
Everything is laggy, almost anything I press takes 1-2 seconds to respond the first time. Second time is mostly instant.
Tried to clean cache of all apps, using memory cleaners, disable double home click, I am at version 4.3, using Go Launcher.
How can I find if there's a specific app that causing it? Or what should I clean to make it go smooth as it used to be when it was new? all these task managers and such don't make ANY difference. Total waste of time.
Don't mind me being pissed and thank you for your input
P.S. - My device is not rooted.
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whatever61, did your phone behave like you have explained (lag) when you first bought it? If the answer is no then you have an apps/widgets/or other software on the phone causing you the problem. The ole' saying 'keep it simple stupid' kind of applies here (not saying at all that you are stupid). There are only so many resources in our phones...cpu capabilities, memory etc. The resources in our S4s are pretty significant considering the size and the limited power available. It really boils down to this...the more task you demand your phone to perform the more resources it uses and at some point it has to slow down to reallocate the limited resources it has...lag. Task managers use more resources than they save...live wallpaper is a resource hog...widgets (weather, facebook, goggle now, goggle +, pandora etc) constantly updating and running are resource hogs...contracts with added thumbnails, although "neat", take up not only memory but take longer (resources) to process when you want to look at one (when you call up a contact do you want the information or do you want to look at a picture, which one of those do you NEED?)...email and messaging apps that have to sync more than a few days of old mail/messages is a waste time and resources...Samsung has put a lot of "cute" animations and gesture sensitive "crap" on our phones...they are "cute" but not necessary and use resources. Bottom line...do a factory reset, decide what you need and "keep it simple stupid". (Again, I'm not calling you stupid!!).
Don't worry, I didn't think you are calling me stupid
Yes, if I remember correctly in the beginning it was working faster (but cannot say for sure what and where was the lag already existing and where it wasn't) and what you're saying about widgets, lots of apps and all that is very obvious and very general (thanks for the input, though). The don't install too many apps or reset to factory approach is not something I think a correct approach. I bought a super powerful phone to be able to install whatever I want on it, right?
Besides an example that I provide is that when I am in the application manager and pressing on an application it takes like 2 seconds to open up. I don't think it's related to me having too many apps.
I think that I should be able to see which app is causing the lag in each case and then make my decision based on it. Yes, I can install different task managers to show me which app is taking how much CPU and RAM, but I don't see anything exceptional there. Problem is at specific actions I do, so it would be good to see what happens (like in Chrome inspect element) when I press on the action, which processes are being launched, how much time it takes for them to complete and how much CPU was used at each process. A log like that would do the job.
Besides my post was more about the wrong engineering (see the example of the Contact list lag) and the fact that many people complain about the lag in S4 and a question if someone knows about a tool that can help me find what is causing the lag (see description of the tool above).
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Don't mistaken transition speed for loading/processing speed which are two totally different things. The S4 is no slouch, if it's "lagging" like you said, it's an app for sure. I nor anyone I know with an S4 has experienced this phantom lag. But then again we don't blow up our phone with launchers, widgets, or 5 different apps telling me my battery level and apps running. Try using stock everything (launchers, dialers*lol*, messaging*lol*)
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I don't like "stock everything", besides seems to me like stock stuff is even more laggy.
I don't blow up my phone with stuff neither and I think the reason lies in something else (see my post above for a better explanation)
whatever61 said:
I don't like "stock everything", besides seems to me like stock stuff is even more laggy.
I don't blow up my phone with stuff neither and I think the reason lies in something else (see my post above for a better explanation)
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I understand your frustration and your point is well taken. I don't know of a utility/app that will enable you to clearly identify an app or process that is causing the lag you experience. I know doing a Factory Reset is a big PITA and I never recommend that to someone unless I know of no other "cure" for the problem. And, sometimes a Factory Reset isn't the cure either. But often it is. The reason I recommended Factory Reset is that it is about the only way you can (that I know of) start with a "clean" phone and nail down the app or apps that are causing a problem as you reinstall them one or two at a time. I have a developer edition S4, rooted and bootloader unlocked, and I usually will do a factory reset every two or three weeks even while running a ROM that has been debloated and "fine tuned". It usually improves battery life and the phone works smoother...or maybe it's just my imagination, but I don't think so. Anyway, good luck, hope you find the problem. Maybe some wise ole' guy will come along and point you in the right direction.
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I don't like "stock everything", besides seems to me like stock stuff is even more laggy.
I don't blow up my phone with stuff neither and I think the reason lies in something else (see my post above for a better explanation)
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Well, for the most reliable experience, it is always best to stick with stock.
My advice is to run stock everything for a day to see if that's the problem. Your other option would be a factory reset in which I am trying to make you avoid.
Do you have 3rd party apps installed like sms/launcher/dialer/lockscreen/etc.? I can't imagine the amount of processes going on if someone had all those apps installed.
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I really dont understand why people complain about this so called lag. I've had no such thing since I got my s4 right when they came out.
My girlfriend gets her S4 acting all strange sometimes too, can seem laggy. However she is constantly downloading music and she uses like 3 programs to do so. I've had to remove quite a few of those apps and then it's working like new again. Sometimes a lot of the apps available out there just aren't the best and can screw things right up I think. I've had none of the issues she's had. Mine has been fast as hell since day one. And hers is back to normal too, I just have to keep an eye on her!!
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This post is ancient, but I still got the problem
I am just curious if other S4 users have the same problem or most don't ?
Then I will know that something is possible to do for sure, at least..

Worst galaxy ever?

On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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livito said:
Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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Me toi
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livito said:
Forgot to add the connection issues, I use the subway a lot, I have to put the phone in airplane mode and off to get reception back after getting off the subway, otherwise it will not refresh the connection by itself.
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Me too. I can't tell you how many problems I've had with this phone. That's just one of the many.
I don't have any of these problems. Maybe its crapware your carrier loaded that's restricting it?
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Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
livito said:
Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
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Try using the international stock roms. On the S4, those were MUCH better that the US version roms. I know it requires rooting, but you'll probably be happier and it doesn't really matter if you're outside your return period anyway.
I don't have any of those problems either.
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Me neither
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Great phone, no issues, where did you buy yur phones?
I've had the phone for a while now and it hasn't lagged once, the fingerprint scanner works over 90% of the time, and signal is good as well. Yeah, the HR monitor is a total gimmick, but to say this phone is "the worst galaxy" is a bit extreme.
So either I got extremely lucky and got 2 phones without any problems, or some people are getting unlucky with their purchase.
livito said:
Yes, it might be a "T-Mobile" version problem, I am pretty sure this are software related problems, I would like to see it running on a vanilla version of android, it has to be TouchWiz messing it up, but anyway, this had to be thoroughly tested before releasing it to the public, shame on T-Mobile/Samsung, hope a fix is on the way.
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I have a feeling most of it is a T-mobile problem. However, I have a friend on another carrier (I think it's Verizon) and he hates his as well. Tons of problems.
i got no problem with mine S5, just love it.
I have the mysterious lag screen problem on wake!
livito said:
On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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Sometimes, no matter what I've tried, I'll be using the phone and let the screen turn off, When I push the home button, nothing, the phone is still running but I can't see anything, I try to use the power button and again nothing, I have to pull the battery and restart the phone to get it working. There is a group of people that are experiencing the problem and at first people thought it may be SD card related but it is not conclusive at this point. It will work fine sometimes for days, then all of a sudden pull the above mentioned crap.
Exactly, onlast Sunday every time I locked the screen it would never wakeup, I had to remove the battery like 3 times, it has been OK for the las 2 days though, but this is frustrating, I mean, I haven't even rooted the phone yet, I read that 4.4.3 is on its way, hope that addresses these performance issues.
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Yes I agree this phone is very laggy specially the camera they send me a "new" phone and the problem still there, also i usually charge it at night
and this morning the screen was on the boot screen logo i had to remove the battery it sucks
So, I keep researching the reasons of why some of us have this issues, today I went to the "t-mobile my account" app, went to options and deselected all the options (ALL OF THEM), and I notice the fun is a lot smoother, probably the placebo effect, but I will keep trying for a couple of days, if you guys want give it a try.
No issues here, touch wood, using T-Mobile phone on AT&T network.
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I've only had the phone for about a week but it's amazing so far, I upgraded from a S2. I play Ingress constantly and lately I've been able to play for 4+ hours at a time before needing to recharge and that's just on the stock battery. I removed all the bloatware I could and turned most everything off just to try and squeeze out every little bit of battery life. The only thing bugging me about the phone so far is that root would void my warranty and I'm a little upset about that but meh, it's not like I ever needed it I'm just a little worried because the phone is so new. I might just wait until the 12 months is up and root the phone then. So far I don't really have a reason to need root but I'm sure that desire will gain in traction as new tools for the device get released. I'm mostly thinking about mods like Cyagenmod, that will be one of the reasons I root and break Knox if I do before the warranty.
livito said:
On paper this is the best galaxy s ever, we all know that, but I have had this phone for 2 weeks now, and I have had the worst android experience on any phone, I had owned every phone on the galaxy s line since the beginning.
I haven't seen any phone with more lags or software flaws than this one.
To begin, the wakeup lag, sometimes more than 10 secs for the phone to wakeup.
The sd card read/write lag, I change my sd card to a Samsung top notch one, and the lag is still noticeable.
Memory issues, I recreates thisnissues in may ways, open up a game (plants vs zombies 2) play for a couple of mins, lock the phone, and see if you can weke it up.
I noticed a bit more smotthnes after the updatw but still the performance on this phone is just awful.
I hope this is an isolated issue, but I have seen a lot of people complaining about the lag as well.
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PEBKAC

Lag a software problem?

I usually do not root my tablets, but I am thinking about rooting my nexus 9. I really enjoy nexus products and I love htc products so I thought the Nexus 9 would be great, but the lag that this tablet has is horrible. I read that it might be hardware issue, since the processor uses denver, but I also heard it might be software related. So I want to ask if the guys who have rooted their tablet experienced less lag or not? If you happen to experience less lag then I would be more inclined to root the tablet. Thanks.
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Rooting is not going to change wether it lags or not.
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jd1639 said:
Rooting is not going to change wether it lags or not.
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OK maybe I should have been more clear... I want to know if some people who had rooted and flashed a custom aosp room noticed less lag or not... Is the lag driven from a software issue or because of the new architecture of the processor?
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cables2590 said:
OK maybe I should have been more clear... I want to know if some people who had rooted and flashed a custom aosp room noticed less lag or not... Is the lag driven from a software issue or because of the new architecture of the processor?
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Ok, it helps to be clear. Rooting and flashing are two different things. You can flash a rom without rooting. I'm on stock and have not noticed any significant lag. When you have lag check in developer options, process stats. See where your memory is. If it's in critical clear out open tabs.
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jd1639 said:
Ok, it helps to be clear. Rooting and flashing are two different things. You can flash a rom without rooting. I'm on stock and have not noticed any significant lag. When you have lag check in developer options, process stats. See where your memory is. If it's in critical clear out open tabs.
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OK that does make sense and I'll keep an eye on that, but when I checked now, my memory is in normal condition... However, it is on the closer side of critical though, so that might explain that I experience lag when I open a bigger app... I'm not completely used to the way lollipop multitask
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This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
jkr284 said:
This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
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Okay, I guess here's something wrong with your device. My N9 never takes this much time to return to the home screen. Occasionally there are some short breaks when returning to the home screen of approximately 2 - 3 seconds...
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jkr284 said:
This has got to be the worst device I have had for lag issues, even trying to get back to the home screen can take 10-15 seconds.
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Yeah that don't sound right Currently mine lag for 2 seconds the most... I just feel like it should not lag... It does seem however that putting a custom rom helps a little... Just my two sense
I have a lot installed on my nexus 9 but my nexus 6 has the same apps and even more installed. The Nexus 6 is instant and buttery smooth. My nexus 9 also can take a while to screen rotate.
The Nvidia chipset is very driver dependent, therefore software dependent. Read the Anandtech reiew article and it will clarify why there are short pauses/freezes sometimes with the N9.
Let's hope 5.1 fixes this...
you want nasty lag, goto htc's N9 web page.. I've not seen a poorly coded webpage with that type of lag in ages.
I know, its not the lag you are talking about , but I had to say something about it someplace ?
http://www.htc.com/us/tablets/nexus-9/
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I don't notice lag on my N9, but I just came from using my N7 2012. Its horrible, so my 9 seems supercharged. I do have freeze ups in Chrome occasionally, but that's about it. I must not max out my memory enough.
Wiping the cache seemed to help a little. I'm going to sell my Nexus 9. For a flagship reference there shouldn't be any lag. I'm sticking to Qualcomm chip set for now.
I have never rooted my N9 and got my device in Nov. I'm running the latest 5.01 and started to notice lag creeping in every 30 - 45 seconds (for no apparent reason). It wasn't very noticeable surfing the web or navigating the tablet but became very apparent playing games. Power cycling the device did nothing.. I was hoping the 5.1 update would solve the problem but grew too impatient waiting for it to arrive so I decided to flash the stock 5.01 image onto my device (from google site). All the lag is gone now, games that were previously unplayable due to the lag are now buttery smooth again. Not sure what caused the lag to begin with but stock 5.01 image reflashing solved my problems.
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I have never rooted my N9 and got my device in Nov. I'm running the latest 5.01 and started to notice lag creeping in every 30 - 45 seconds (for no apparent reason). It wasn't very noticeable surfing the web or navigating the tablet but became very apparent playing games. Power cycling the device did nothing.. I was hoping the 5.1 update would solve the problem but grew too impatient waiting for it to arrive so I decided to flash the stock 5.01 image onto my device (from google site). All the lag is gone now, games that were previously unplayable due to the lag are now buttery smooth again. Not sure what caused the lag to begin with but stock 5.01 image reflashing solved my problems.
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Yeah a few people has mentioned that flashing the stock image helped out quit a bit, but I'm running a rooted version of 5.1 and it's running great... Which I think means it's the memory leak causing the issue, and even though there is still a memory leak on 5.1 it's much better...
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In my case I don't think it was the memory leak issue causing the lag. If that was the case then power cycling the device would have resolved the issue momentarily. But it did not. The lag was consistently present regardless of the numbers of power cycles and clearing of all "recent apps".
I can understand the frustration some have voiced in the forums making it sound like the N9 is plagued with issues. Re-flashing stock 5.01and bringing back my tablet to the same state (reinstalled all apps again) it was in solved my problems. Hopefully the 5.1 OTA fixes whatever lag has been introduced with previous updates.
cables2590 said:
Which I think means it's the memory leak causing the issue, and even though there is still a memory leak on 5.1 it's much better...
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The lag is getting annoying.

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