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Hey guys!
Yesterday I read an article about "CyanogenMod no longer delivers support for devices with snapdragons 1"
And as our device is a "cooper one", it seems we are not gonna make it..
Source 1: "CyanogenMod ya no entregará soporte para equipos con Snapdragon S1" - bitly.com/MCS7bU
Source 2: "CyanogenMod formally confirms ceased support for Snapdragon S1 devices past Gingerbread" - bitly.com/MCSGT5
And here is the official post of Cyanogenmod's Team (from Google+):
CyanogenMod 01/08/2012
CM 9+, N1 (and other S1 SoC)
The Nexus One, along with the other first generation Snapdragon devices (devices with the QSD8x50, MSM7x25, MSM7x27 and MSM7x27T SoCs), will not be supported beyond the CM 7.x (Gingerbread) branch.
We’ve been holding off on finalizing this, looking for ways that we could make this work and be happy with the release. Sadly, it never panned out, and we’ve decided that it’s time to stop our efforts.
The Nexus One in particular would have required a custom hboot to repartition the internal memory (which itself was limited to 512 MB, like most devices of that generation) and the proprietary libs available (from 2.3) would have required compromises in the CyanogenMod code that we are not willing to make. The wide variety of MSM7x2x(T) devices, on top of these problems, also have a complete lack of media libraries that are compatible with the new APIs introduced in ICS (video decoding and encoding, specifically). The pieces just aren’t there.
Does the capability to run ICS or Jellybean exist on these devices? Yes, with enough time, effort, and hacks it can be made to work. Do we feel the experience is worth all of that? No.
To measure our releases, we use the same subjective criteria as users do: “speed”, “jank”, “butter”, but also factor in user experience (UX) and other intangibles. However, beyond this is something that we can (and do) use as a ‘pass or fail’ mechanism, the Android Compatibility Test Suite. The CTS is used by device manufacturers to ensure that their changes to Android source do not break Android API, platform and other standards. This, in turn, brings stability to the Play Store for app developers. Breaking CTS would lead to a bad and inconsistent experience for app devs, which in turn would lead to a bad experience for you guys as users. If CyanogenMod was perceived to be blatantly violating CTS, developers could eventually blacklist CyanogenMod users from using their apps (or worse, Google could blacklist CyanogenMod from the Play Store altogether). No one would win by going down that path.
If, in the future, a solution is found that passes CTS, we will revisit the topic.
For users that are adamant about trying to run ICS and beyond, options exist. We are not going to recommend other builds however, as they are more than likely breaking CTS, and therefore our quality assurance standards as well. You can find them if you look in the usual places.
-The CyanogenMod Team
Edit The list of affected devices are as follows: blade, bravo, bravoc, buzz, c660, click, cooper, desirec, e510, e720, es209ra, espresso, hero, heroc, inc, legend, liberty, morrisson, motus, one, p500, passion, robym, s5670, supersonic, tass, u8150, u8220, z71, zero
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Source: bitly.com/MCSZxf
So... What do you think ?...
Damnit...
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How bout this? That is ICS
Shadow xD said:
How bout this? That is ICS
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He means future support, that means future updates will take longer because now porting is needed to make it work.
The title is wrong.
You should say we won't get future support from Cyanogenmod.
AOSP still can be compile from source I guess.
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galaxyace152 said:
The title is wrong.
You should say we won't get future support from Cyanogenmod.
AOSP still can be compile from source I guess.
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How can I edit it ?....
EDIT>Go Advanced. Be more careful next time.
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EDIT>Go Advanced. Be more careful next time.
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ok, understood =/..
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We never had and never will have OFFICIAL CM9+ support. UNOFFICIAL builds are what we'll have to live on..
Is this just saying that we wont have official CM9/CM10 support (which we all knew)?
Or is it saying that we will no longer get support from them for CM7?
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tomb20 said:
Is this just saying that we wont have official CM9/CM10 support (which we all knew)?
Or is it saying that we will no longer get support from them for CM7?
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I think CM 7.2 cooper is the last rom they do for Gingerbread.....
I mean... No more Official Roms for Galaxy Ace
JuampyXnaker said:
I think CM 7.2 cooper is the last rom they do for Gingerbread.....
I mean... No more Official Roms for Galaxy Ace
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We will get GB roms.
We just won't get official CM9/10 and support from them for the above.
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Yup.. CM7.x is after which the support ends.
Cm7.3 ?
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CoolCatGetHome said:
Cm7.3 ?
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They've moved on from CM7, lol
King ACE said:
They've moved on from CM7, lol
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Nope they are further developing cm7 for the devices wich dont get official cm9/cm10 support
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Nope they are further developing cm7 for the devices wich dont get official cm9/cm10 support
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That will be awesome as Gingerbread is best for the Ace.
ICS slows it down like hell!
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That will be awesome as Gingerbread is best for the Ace.
ICS slows it down like hell!
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agree, ICS+ was made for better devices than the ace.
Gingerbread works better for the ace.
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Gingerbread works better for the ace.
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and aosp GB works hell smoother.. even at this moment cm7 lags in front of aosp :silly::laugh:
cm7 may not see cm7.3 but it is alive for patches to existing system not further features
madman said:
and aosp GB works hell smoother.. even at this moment cm7 lags in front of aosp :silly::laugh:
cm7 may not see cm7.3 but it is alive for patches to existing system not further features
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Yeah! I saw the quadrant for AOSP in Ace! It was some 2100 or something!
What do you guys think?
It seems we will receive 4.2 early next year, but what about 5.0? It probably will be out in summer, so its near the end of the 18 month update plan.
Guesses?
i don't think . they will probably say they are " working on it " than cancel it and say it wont release it because it doesn't have enough ram .
^ 5.0 will probably add a bunch of new features but I'll bet the main aim for El Goog will be to optimise it so it runs on more devices. The biggest con on Android from other smartphone users is "fragmentation" I reckon Google will do their best to sort this.
Yes
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It'll probably be on the SGS IV then.
Lets watch how 4.1.1, 4.1.2, 4.2 goes, 5 shall probably follow the same rollout schedule.
As for telco's rolling it out, expect the same slowness 3month+ delay for bloatware, testing, reports, approval etc. Probably a 2014 release unless it comes pre installed or DIY if you want it early
Think ill just go for the SGS IV
I would say, Yes.. unless there's a new hexa-core processor for smartphone in the coming future, then will slightly doubt S# will be getting 5.0
For now with quad-core and 1GB RAM (or some cases 2GB RAM) are enough spec for smartphone..
Maybe, in year 2046..
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Holywolf said:
I would say, Yes.. unless there's a new hexa-core processor for smartphone in the coming future, then will slightly doubt S# will be getting 5.0
For now with quad-core and 1GB RAM (or some cases 2GB RAM) are enough spec for smartphone..
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samsung has been showing off an 8 core exynos
Squall-Leonhart said:
samsung has been showing off an 8 core exynos
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Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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Theshawty said:
Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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True enough.
Theshawty said:
Who the hell has the slightest trust for crapsynos anymore?
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They are the best processors though, and if you want a proper a15, the exynos 5 is the only way to get there. It's also worth keeping in mind that the Exynos 5 is also much more open source friendly now that it is used in the nexus 10(that could however change if Samsung decides to go for the big.little architecture change).
Just because Exynos deosnt have proper documentation doesnt mean its not the best mobile processor on the planet. It is.
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They are the best processors though, and if you want a proper a15, the exynos 5 is the only way to get there. It's also worth keeping in mind that the Exynos 5 is also much more open source friendly now that it is used in the nexus 10(that could however change if Samsung decides to go for the big.little architecture change).
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Best by your
preferences. Best by my preferences is a well documented one like those of Qualcomm.
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Just because Exynos deosnt have proper documentation doesnt mean its not the best mobile processor on the planet. It is.
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Before asking a question check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086396
Ask any questions about Ubuntu for phones here! Please don't ask twice and Quote the question you are answering.
Note: do not ask if your device can run, boot, etc . Ubuntu. If you are curious whether you can get it on your device please post it in either the general or questions and answers section of your device. But before you post there please search and see if it has already of been asked. Thanks.
If you are still wondering if this is on your device please contact a developer when it is released to port it to your device.
I have Htc Desire, it will be possible to run Ubuntu on my sweet phone? Or it is possible only for new phones? What is a must have for system? CPU, Ram, storage. Thx for answer.
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What's the actual point of having another linux distribution on your phone? Shouldn't it be the same (I'm not talking about few additional features that might be somewhat useful)?
Ramazor said:
What's the actual point of having another linux distribution on your phone? Shouldn't it be the same (I'm not talking about few additional features that might be somewhat useful)?
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Is like why some ppl prefer Linux Mint or Ubuntu or even Debian if all come from the same way? It's just matter of tastes.
What do I need to do to boot this bad boy on my jewel?
(Will you be copying all the questions and answers and adding them to the first post? )
Will dev devices be available? Will steam be officially supported for mobile?
What I'm curious about is will this support ext3/ext4 filesystems? Support for links?
Also, will there be a repo? Ability to install the gcc toolchain?
I'm curious on how unlock security. Like having a password to unlock or something like that. What would it look like on this OS? Another question I have is what are the keyboard's features?
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g1b50n said:
I have Htc Desire, it will be possible to run Ubuntu on my sweet phone? Or it is possible only for new phones? What is a must have for system? CPU, Ram, storage. Thx for answer.
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no you can not install ubuntu on htc desire
the minimum requirements are
1ghz dual core cpu
1gb ram
wvga screen
Can we install it which devices we want, like Ubuntu for PC? Or must developers customize it for all devices like Android?
What is Ubuntu for Phones' minimum system requirements?
And there will be a new release every 6 months like Ubuntu for PC?
ubuntu on nexus 4
can i install ubuntu on nexus 4??
Ubuntu OS for Xperia PLAY?
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demon507 said:
can i install ubuntu on nexus 4??
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BryanRG1996 said:
Ubuntu OS for Xperia PLAY?
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No. Not yet.
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Will it support (in the future) the Android app ecosystem?
I really hope so because people like me already purchased a lot of app and I need them (and won't buy them again).
What do you think?
Is this Q&A just aimed at the community or will it have some "official" answers ? If so what mobile networks will be used in the UK on release ?
Dual booting a possibility on the Nexus ?
Secure market for purchasing apps /devices?
Apart from the Nexus , What other devices are you hoping to introduce this year for us to play with ?
How easy/hard will it be to port ROMS to another other device ?
What will you offer us ( apart from a new OS to play with) that's going to steal market share from Android ?
What plans do you have for future updates to the OS ,will it become as fragmented as Android ? Will you push carriers to update ROMs or will it be down to XDA to do this :laugh:
Will you make it easy for us to do our thing or will you lock the devices down (not that it will stop XDA lol)
If any of you are interested in getting Canonicals attention for us, the XDA Family being able to beta for them, here is a petition I started at change.org! It won't hurt to sign it guys, might as well try!
https://www.change.org/petitions/ca...evelopers-com-as-testers-for-ubuntu-for-phone
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manishnraj said:
no you can not install ubuntu on htc desire
the minimum requirements are
1ghz dual core cpu
1gb ram
wvga screen
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That aren't the min. Requirements
that is:
1ghz single core
512mb Ram
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If Ubuntu have working builds for Galaxy nexus, why they dont release them?
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siggdroid said:
If Ubuntu have working builds for Galaxy nexus, why they dont release them?
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They are probably in final phases of private development
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will this ever be on the SGS3 ATT
will this ever be on my bad boy S3?
and will there be something like ADB for this?
Hi, Tech Guys here!
I don't know if I'm posting in the correct category but I thought it would be the best way to decide here which device to buy. Yes, I've looked on various sites and reviews for the best mobile device out there. Surely, most of them would suggest any one of the Samsung Galaxy S4, HTC One and Xperia Z. Well, I've not found any review considering the development of the devices and I don't think I'd. Thus, I decided to post a thread here on XDA where I can easily get recommendation for it and can have my priorities considered by the techies here. At the moment, I own a Samsung Galaxy S II. The only reason I still love it is the continuous development for it. So, my kind request to all of you here is to help me decide the best phone out there - the budget is INR 40,000 ($ 800). Here are the priorities (decreasing order):
Obviously, Android! I don't want restrictions for using my own device. I want the possibility to tweak the settings. I want Custom ROMS, Apps or you can say everything what this site is made for.
The best development support - I think Samsung and Google are the best for it, no?
Battery Backup. It's fine if I can improve it noticeably with tweaks.
Storage
Hell outta performance. I was very disappointed for the reviews that said though having the best performance, S4 noticeably lags a much.
Screen with good contrast and colors. Size also matters.
I don't want to pay much for bloat.
I don't know why my heart is not letting me go against the S4. But I can make the same understand if I've your points here.
Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to everyone.
I've also added a poll to vote for your choice.
s4 is great but one x is better suited for developing Android roms. Many roms are available for one x but s4 doesn't even have a official cyanogen
balajithegreat said:
s4 is great but one x is better suited for developing Android roms. Many roms are available for one x but s4 doesn't even have a official cyanogen
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One doesn't have a memory card slot and removable back.
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try SIII
I would wait a month, and get the S4 google edition when it comes out. You can't go wrong buying from google, and the S4 is an amazing device.
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I would wait a month, and get the S4 google edition when it comes out. You can't go wrong buying from google, and the S4 is an amazing device.
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If I'm not wrong, it's S4 minus bloat?
That's what I can do with the help of xda! It would have been a cool deal if its price was less than the S4's
Correct me if I'm wrong
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Get the nexus if it is for development. It is the only line that is fully supported by AOSP.
Wayne Tech Nexus
Paras Lehana said:
If I'm not wrong, it's S4 minus bloat?
That's what I can do with the help of xda! It would have been a cool deal if its price was less than the S4's
Correct me if I'm wrong
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True, i'm just pissed at AT&T for my locked-bootloader-s4
That problem will sort itself out soon though...
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Get the nexus if it is for development. It is the only line that is fully supported by AOSP.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Not released in India yet. :/
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Not released in India yet. :/
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Well I have had a recent dealings with some of the devices from India and to be honest if it is for Development you may end up importing. Avoid Micromax and any of the OEM that import from China. Maybe the S3 maybe a good one or the S4 If the Nexus line is not available to you. Oppo Is also working hard with developers.
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Well I have had a recent dealings with some of the devices from India and to be honest if it is for Development you may end up importing. Avoid Micromax and any of the OEM that import from China. Maybe the S3 maybe a good one or the S4 If the Nexus line is not available to you. Oppo Is also working hard with developers.
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Yeah, I mean the device should've nice development support but the other stuff I've mentioned in the list also matters. I'll be comparing Nexus 4 with S4 (i.e. Researching...)
Any active support for the nexus 5?
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Any active support for the nexus 5?
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+ 1 ! ! ! Loved using it on my Nexus 4 & GS III, would lo e to see it available for the nexus 4 !*
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Is Ubuntu touch still using android as a base? I wonder how hard that would make this port considering the source available for the n5 is 4.4.
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quinman22 said:
Is Ubuntu touch still using android as a base? I wonder how hard that would make this port considering the source available for the n5 is 4.4.
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Ubuntu Touch has never used android as a base, you may be talking about this:
In the original porting guide, we had Android as the main OS, having Ubuntu separated in a container. We had that as our first solution as it's easier to just boot Android and bootstrap Ubuntu once Android is up and running (which was a base requirement for Touch). This architecture was traditionally called 'unflipped', and it's part of the raring and first saucy images we produced.
As we continued developing the platform, more issues we found with such architecture, making it harder to improve the quality for the Ubuntu side (ueventd x udev, full control of the services, upgradability of the compat layer, etc). So to be able to further improve the Touch images, we decided to flip the systems, making Ubuntu as the main host, and separating Android in a container, getting us to what we call 'flipped' images.
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In any case the support will come in time, probably not from Canonical though, as they are quite busy at the moment If you want to read more about what is required in porting Ubunu Touch to a device check out this guide. (sorry for the formatting, I'm apparently not yet allowed to post links)
wiki.ubuntu . com/Touch/Porting#Touch_Developer_Preview_-_Porting_Guide_2.0
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Ubuntu Touch has never used android as a base, you may be talking about this:
In any case the support will come in time, probably not from Canonical though, as they are quite busy at the moment If you want to read more about what is required in porting Ubunu Touch to a device check out this guide. (sorry for the formatting, I'm apparently not yet allowed to post links)
wiki.ubuntu . com/Touch/Porting#Touch_Developer_Preview_-_Porting_Guide_2.0
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Yes I looked at that link, unfortunately after I posted that misinformed tidbit, thanks!
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+1 ) ♡
Just realized I had written that I loved using it on my Nexus 5 lol obviously I meant Nexus 4, I wanna use it on my nexus 5 or Note 3 &/or 8
Even on my G2 would be nice (I am a phone/tablet collector lol everyone tells me I have way too many. But my a phone collection is tame compared to my guitar collection )
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anything new on nexus 5?
XDA Developers has a news section. There was a post here. It states:
Not much is needed to get started. You need to be running Android 4.2 or higher on an AOSP-derived ROM, 2.7 GB of free space, ADB on your desktop and your phone’s bootloader must be unlocked. Currently, this has only been tested by Canonical on the Google Nexus 4, but they state that other Nexus devices should work as well.
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It should work but it is risky.
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XDA Developers has a news section. There was a post here. It states:
It should work but it is risky.
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but it doesnt work
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but it doesnt work
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I'd assume the team is working on it. After all it is a Nexus device.
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I'd assume the team is working on it. After all it is a Nexus device.
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I imagine they actually don't, I think at this point they have at least one handset lined up and are focusing development towards that unannounced device.
I do think someone is working on this in their spare time though
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I imagine they actually don't, I think at this point they have at least one handset lined up and are focusing development towards that unannounced device.
I do think someone is working on this in their spare time though
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The Nexus line is the only true device they are supporting at this moment. You can find a list here with the devices that are/not on the official Ubuntu site.
I doubt we're going to be seeing another Ubuntu Edge coming out. That failed unfortunately but ti was a good project.
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The Nexus line is the only true device they are supporting at this moment. You can find a list here with the devices that are/not on the official Ubuntu site.
I doubt we're going to be seeing another Ubuntu Edge coming out. That failed unfortunately but ti was a good project.
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Maybe you missed the news: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57615107-94/ubuntu-touch-os-wins-its-first-smartphone-partner/
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Maybe you missed the news: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57615107-94/ubuntu-touch-os-wins-its-first-smartphone-partner/
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It is a business partner, so I'd assume that business partner is making the devices. Ubuntu Edge was supposed to be the team's first device with Ubuntu, but that KicKStarter project failed. But thanks for giving me that information. I personally haven' been following the foot steps of the development of Ubuntu Touch OS in awhile.
I'm thinking this may be the issue:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualB...phone_calls_to_work_in_Ubuntu_and_Android_4.4
The radio image shipped with Android 4.4 is reused on the Ubuntu side to make phone calls or use WiFi or sound, and it is not yet supported in Ubuntu.
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If the radio currently isn't supported, we would kind of be SOL even with it booted up. They mention a fix, but that requires using a 4.3 radio, something not available to us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49168595&postcount=34
I think I'll just drop that there.
I think that sums it up.
EDIT (13/01/2013 - 16:33):
According to OMGUbuntu! (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/ubuntu-touch-wont-support-nexus-5-will-drop-support-nexus-7-10) there will be NO official support for the Nexus 5. Though considering how awesome XDA is, I doubt that will put the determined off. Here's to an unofficial Nexus 5 ROM with convergence included!
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I think I'll just drop that there.
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I definitely think that sums it up, Shiggity.
I too have recently grabbed a Nexus 5. I really look forward to when we get a ROM for it because I really want to try it out. I think through patience I will be rewarded.
According to the irc channel, it's being developed.
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