Lets get the basics out of the way.
I'm looking for a replacement for HTC Sense Mail. My Rezound is starting to die and I'll be shopping for a replacement soon. If I switch to a non-HTC phone, I'd like to know my options. I personally like the way Sense Mail works. It handles both my personal and company emails. I have looked at many of the email apps on the market and none of them seem to replicate all of the following requirements;
Exchange 2010 and Activesync support
IMAP support
Message Grouping (sometimes called conversation view, where related messages are grouped together)
Subfolder syncing support (Many replacement apps won't sync either imap or exchange subfolders)
I've tried InoMail for message grouping, but it doesn't support Exchange/Activesync. I've tried K-9, but at last try it didn't do the message grouping. And only lists up to Exchange 2007. VMware Horizon Mail supported Exchange and message grouping, but not subfolders.
Currently Sense Mail can do all those things for me. I'd hate to be forced into have to get and HTC phone just for Sense Mail.
I'd really prefer one solution, instead of having to run multiple apps.
So are there any valid options out there?
Thanks
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Hello,
I've had my iPhone 3G for over a year now, I passed on the 3Gs, cause to me, it was nothing more than just a spec bump, and the exclusive features found on the 3Gs that were not found on the 3G with the 3.0 update were, in my opinion, negligible.
Anyways, I would like to purchase an HTC Hero, but my main concerns are being able to Sync both my Contacts and Calendars with my MacBook Pro. I have figured out how to sync my MacBook Pro with Google Mail and Contacts, and Calendar but I'm not sure how easy and streamlined syncing Google Mail, Contacts and Calender is with an HTC Hero. Could someone verify for me that Syncing all three is possible and it updates both ways, meaning if I update Contanct on the Hero, it'll automatically update my Google contacts? Will it do the same for gmail and Calendar? Any help with this is greatly aprpeciated, thank you.
kman79,
I also use Mac OS X and this was one thing that concerned me. I tried using the methods you mention but was not happy with the results and was concerned that syncing back would be problematic.
Google Contacts has some strange habits with the contact data and tended to mangle up stuff to regularly.
e.g. There are no separate fields for first middle and last name... its all in one field.
I tried Spanning Sync (they do a trial version) and found this to work perfectly. Paid up for a lifetime sub too.
Syncing to and from the Hero works perfectly and their servers handle any Google misbehaviours. Whenever I enter an new iCal event or Address Book contact (or edit one), Spanning sync sends it up to Google.
The Hero will get the data pushed to it usually within seconds or a minute or two. This so far has been more seamless than having to use iSync on my previous Nokia's. You had to manually trigger syncs.
When out, I enter new info and when back on my Mac, its just there.
One big advantage is if you use multiple iCal calendars, in Spanning Sync you select which iCal calendar is synced to which Google Calendar... these all appear on your handset too BTW.
So essentially, just log in in the initial Hero setup, and all your data is sent to the Hero.
PM me if you want a discount code (you get one when you purchase to share and earn the same $5 back your 'friend' gets off the software).
All in all, a very good solution and far more powerful than fudging iCal and Address Book to Google's slightly fudged data handling.
With new Snow Leopard, Google sync is integrated in calendar & email.
If you have other email address than google, you can put gmail to check the other email boxes for messages. This way you will benefit from push on the Hero.
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Hello,
I've had my iPhone 3G for over a year now, I passed on the 3Gs, cause to me, it was nothing more than just a spec bump, and the exclusive features found on the 3Gs that were not found on the 3G with the 3.0 update were, in my opinion, negligible.
Anyways, I would like to purchase an HTC Hero, but my main concerns are being able to Sync both my Contacts and Calendars with my MacBook Pro. I have figured out how to sync my MacBook Pro with Google Mail and Contacts, and Calendar but I'm not sure how easy and streamlined syncing Google Mail, Contacts and Calender is with an HTC Hero. Could someone verify for me that Syncing all three is possible and it updates both ways, meaning if I update Contanct on the Hero, it'll automatically update my Google contacts? Will it do the same for gmail and Calendar? Any help with this is greatly aprpeciated, thank you.
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anything from google is automatically synced and updated to your phone and viceversa to your gmail inlcuding contacts and calender and now facebook contacts get synced and profile pictures from you friends list are linked to you contact list
Hey all,
did I miss something or are we still stuck with the same crappy IMAP support
that was there in the initial release?
I'm using hMailserver and get No Mails although I am getting the folder names
downloaded. This issue was due to the HTC client not supporting IMAP Prefix.
Did anyone solve this or does HTC need a kick in teh behind?
Tried with my Google account as well (which you'd think would work) for testing
purposes and no go...
//Nik
I'm using two IMAP accounts (one is a Google) just fine.
In the HTC client (not K9)?
How did you configure GMail?
//Nik
The missing folder-path preference has been acknowledged by HTC support, along with a number of other problems with htc-mail. Except from that IMAP has worked well for me, at least with the recent upgrade.
My worst problem with HTC-Mail is that it refuses to display signed messages. That's a big issue with 1/3 of all my incoming messages having GnuPG signatures.
HTC Mail never worked for me, when I configured it for access to a unsecured IMAP account on the local (WiFi connected) network it didn't pull down any mail automatically and whenever I manually forced it to sync it would force close.
In the end I decided resitance was futile and allowed myself to be assimilated into the Google collective. All my incoming mail from all my accounts is now collected by my GMail account, and I access it using the GMail app on the phone (which does push email, unlike the HTC Mail app). The ability of GMail to use multiple SMTP servers and/or set the 'From' address combined with automatic selection of the address to use for outgoing mail means my sent mail still appears to originate from my original accounts.
Stop whining and install k-9 mail. I found the newest 1.006 to really work well. If it had a homescreen widget then it would be perfect.
Did install K-9 the day I got the device, works okay.
My point is, when a device is sent out with an e-mail app
with such crappy compliance, it's sad...
... and to quote you... "If it had a homescreen widget then it would be perfect"
this would be nice...
//Nik
So here is my query, I have searched but did not find anything that remotely assisted me with my particular problem.
I have multiple e-mail accounts set up on my phone. 2 Gmail accounts, 2 yahoo accounts, and a pop3 email account for my website. It is also likely that I will have to set up my work e-mail on the phone too here in the not too distant future.
I currently get 1 email in any of the email boxes and I am constantly barraged with constant email alerts notifying me of new mail every 5 minutes it seems. Is there any way to change them to all only notify me of new mail and not just alert until I actually read the unread mail? It's not always possible for me to get right to it and to have those notifications continually coming in is a little annoying.. Is there a way to stop the multiple notifications and stick to alerting only on new messages for all accounts?
I should say I'm a recent convert from the iPhone 4 to the HTC EVO 3D and love every aspect about it except for this.
Thanks in advance from an HTC EVO 3D & Android Noob!
I'm not quite clear on your problem. Are you receiving multiple notifications because your using multiple email applications? Or are all your email accounts set up through the stock sense email app which provides separate notifications for each different account?
I have 5 email accounts. 4 are set up through gmail and the third is a pop3 account which I have forwarded to a gmail account.
I have my accounts set up through gmail and exchange activesync. I use the gmail app and the sense app because of its unified mailbox. I have the notifications disabled for each account on the sense app and just rely on gmail to notify me.
Another thing you can do is turn off the notification for the gmail app and customize the notifications for the sense app, since you can set peak and off peak hours. So for your less busy or less important accounts you can pull every 2 hours but for your important accounts you can set to push (if your set up through exchange.)
I don't know if this is any help. If you clarify a little I might be able to provide a more clear response.
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I'm not quite clear on your problem. Are you receiving multiple notifications because your using multiple email applications? Or are all your email accounts set up through the stock sense email app which provides separate notifications for each different account?
I have 5 email accounts. 4 are set up through gmail and the third is a pop3 account which I have forwarded to a gmail account.
I have my accounts set up through gmail and exchange activesync. I use the gmail app and the sense app because of its unified mailbox. I have the notifications disabled for each account on the sense app and just rely on gmail to notify me.
Another thing you can do is turn off the notification for the gmail app and customize the notifications for the sense app, since you can set peak and off peak hours. So for your less busy or less important accounts you can pull every 2 hours but for your important accounts you can set to push (if your set up through exchange.)
I don't know if this is any help. If you clarify a little I might be able to provide a more clear response.
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Yes, I am using the built in sense email app for multiple mail accounts. I'm beginning to think that each time it reaches out and it sees an unread message on the server whether or not it has notified me of that single unread message. I'm not a fan of linking all of my accounts to one Gmail account on here as they all serve a separate purpose and I can prioritize them as needed by looking at the status bar notification.
I don't think I've touched the native Gmail app at all since I've had this thing. I have 3 accounts that are set up to reach out to get new mails at 5 minute intervals (1 Gmail, 1 yahoo & 1 pop3) and the rest I have moved to 30 minute intervals as they are not as time sensitive.
I just checked the native Gmail app and the notifications are set to off. I guess this is just something new to me since leaving AT&T and getting rid of my iPhone. I was hoping there was some kind of notify tweak that I was missing that would only prompt it to notify of new mails period. I can't always grab my phone to check mails immediately so that's how I noticed it..
I'm so green to this, I've only had my EVO3D for a week now.. I think I got too used to the iPhone but decided to lose AT&T and move back to Sprint. Any help or other ideas would be greatly appreciative.
And many thanks to you parousia15 for your assistance in this matter thus far...
In the Notification settings is there not an option similar to "Notify me Once"? I use this option in Gmail and also in Handcent SMS for notifications. I don't use the stock mail app so not sure it is there or not.
Vdubtx,
I checked that under the native mail notification settings and there is not one that I can find. I did just start with handscent so I"m trying to learn more about it as time goes on.. So far I love my phone.. I don't think I'll be changing any time soon...
I've tried to replicate your situation, unfortunately, when I get a new email through the native sense app, it beeps once and only once. It doesn't renotify me after any amount of time. I don't know what else to recommend. Sorry.
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I've tried to replicate your situation, unfortunately, when I get a new email through the native sense app, it beeps once and only once. It doesn't renotify me after any amount of time. I don't know what else to recommend. Sorry.
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thanks for trying! I guess I'll have to try and see what I can figure out myself then..
I did recently find some complaints over on Android Central that were exactly the problem I'm having. These were from a year ago with the EVO 4G but no one had any constructive help there. UGH... My hunt shall continue tomorrow I guess..
I have yet to find a fix for this issue. I've come to the realization that the stock email app sucks with notifications. I just want a single notification of new emails not a notification every time it checks that I haven't read the previous email. Starting to miss my iPhone for this function!
Download the actual gmail and yahoo mail app for real time notification of new mail rather than unread mail. You can use the stock mail app for you pop3 account. That worked best for me.
As a mail server admin I have seen issues with POP3 clients (mobile and computer) where the client will not properly keep track of what is new.
Even more frustrating is that the server can cause this as well.
First thing is to methodically figure out if it is a certain type of email account. If it is the POP account then try connecting through IMAP instead.
The only real way to know is to sift through the server/device connection logs.
Worst case, to be less enjoying, you could turn off just the vibrate and sound part of the notifications and keep the icon.
Richard
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I'm having the same issue. I ended up muting the notification and just having the icon display the new e-mails. Though it would be nice to have it ring only once because I would like to actually be notified without the repeat every 5 minutes.
This is happening on my EVO 3D and also on my dad's Thunderbolt. Both using the default Sense mail client.
I actually did a little testing and it is in fact repeating only when it checks for mail. If the client checks for new e-mails every 10 minutes, it will notify you every 10 minutes. This most likely means that it's not actually a reminder alert but an alert that new mail is present like someone else said could be possible in this thread.
That being the case, there wouldn't be an option to change that in the settings unless something gets updated. What needs to happen is that the client must recognize the e-mail has already been downloaded previously so it doesn't notify again and again that there is a "new" e-mail.
Hello,
I only have one email account set up to sync email. It is my MS Exchange account. I have it set for push.
Yet for some reason the icon on my home screen is almost always showing an incorrect number of new messages. If I open up outlook - then it seems to sync - not always synced even during key work hours - 8-8 (when I have it set for push).
I'm not sure if this is a glitch with the 3D or android something I'm doing wrong or if there is a work around. I know 3 other people with the 3D and they all have the same issue.
I'm new to android so I'll give you what info I think might be important.
I have both background and autosync checked.
I have mail, contacts, calendar, update when opened checked. I have update schedule set for push between 8-8 every day.
I tried making both peak and off hours push - unfortunately that doesn't help either.
Weird, I've been using my gmail account on exchange (I like the HTC Mail application better than the gmail one) and have yet to have any issues. Hope you get it resolved since my gmail is working fine though I'm thinking it might be something on the ms exchange server's end.
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Weird, I've been using my gmail account on exchange (
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You use your gmail account on exchange? You forward your gmail email to microsoft exchange? Then have your business exchange server forwad to the 3D instead of just going direct from gmail to your 3D mail app?
I have multiple email accounts, most are gmail. I chose to access them through exchange because that allows me to use HTC mail, which has a unified mail box.
Regarding your initial problem, how many aspects of your email account are you syncing. For example, is it Inbox only or do you also sync outbox, sent, trash, deleted, etc. If you do the latter, I have noticed that the new mail count is off, because the app, after initial set up at least, will count mail synced in other folders that have at, some point be marked unread.
Going through the various folders and marking everything as read fixed the problem for me.
Hope this helps.
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I am confused by those saying you are using exchange - I'm talking about using an MS Exchange SERVER. Are you sending your gmail to a microsoft exchange SERVER? I'm not talking about a gmail server or hotmail server but an actual server set up for a company that runs Microsoft Exchange. A server that when you access it from the web it says Microsoft Outlook Web Access or Microsoft Web App- Connected to Microsoft Exchange
I have only one email account I'm syncing which is on an MS exchange server. The only folders I sync are inbox and sent items. The only unread mail items I'll ever have on the server are items in my inbox. I'd like to have the icont on the home screen for mail messages show me the number of unread messages I have which are on an MS exchange email server (not forwarded from gmail or hotmail). I know other people using exchange servers that also have the incorrect number of items showing on their EVO 3D. My guess is people using gmail (direct from gmail servers) won't have this issue so I'm asking people who use MS Exchange servers. WM devices, WP7 devices and iphones from the same exchange servers show the correct number of messages.
i think it has something to do with the number of days you sync.
in outlook, mark all of your email as read (if you can do this).
hit refresh on your phone. it should say 0 unread for both.
from here you can figure out what is going on.
Thanks, I should be clear. It can be temporarily correct. FOr example if I open email on the phone and it syncs, and I open emails etc and go back to the home page and it shows no new messages which is correct.
But if I get a new email, then I open it on my computer and delete it. Hours later it will still show 1 new message on my home screen on the phone. I'd expect that sort of half assed issue if I was using pop but this appears to be something not implemented with sense or android.
That is normal for Android. Your phone notification will still show that you haven't read the e-mail from Exchange until you open e-mail on the phone and it refreshes. Annoying, I know, but it's like the notification function just isn't integrated as well as it should be.
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I'm not sure if this is a glitch with the 3D or android something I'm doing wrong or if there is a work around. I know 3 other people with the 3D and they all have the same issue.
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Ok, first off, I don't have a 3D. I've got a Sensation on Tmo but I think they're pretty much the same phone.
I also had a few glitches when I tried out the Android Exchange client. But mainly I didn't like the draconian way it implemented my company's security policies and I said "screw it". I found a different client called Touchdown and gave it a whirl. I liked it so eventually I bought it. I'm not used to paying quite that much for an app when most of the others I use are cheap or free. But I use it a *lot* and it works very well. It's *much* better than the Android client imho.
Jye75 said:
That is normal for Android. Your phone notification will still show that you haven't read the e-mail from Exchange until you open e-mail on the phone and it refreshes. Annoying, I know, but it's like the notification function just isn't integrated as well as it should be.
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Thanks for letting me know this is normal for Android. I hope they fix it as it is one of my ONLY major issue with Android. This is my first Android phone and I like Android a lot. The phone as a phone sucks but that isn't Android's fault.
Hey folks
I posted this under the general Android Q&A section but thought it would be better here. I am having an issue with my HTC Evo 3D where I am unable to have more than one active Exchange Activesync (EAS) account syncing. I'm trying to have my work e-mail and my hotmail account with push using EAS.
What I have tried:
- Setting up my work e-mail, then my hotmail. Can receive work e-mails instantly, but not with hotmail.
- Setting up my hotmail, then my work e-mail. Can receive hotmail e-mails instantly, but not with my work e-mail.
- Setting up my work e-mail in one mail client, and my hotmail in a separate client. Same issues as above, one receiving push e-mail and the other not.
And here's something funny: If I set up one and then the other in the default HTC mail client, the first one will work with push the but second one won't. BUT, if I then do a manual sync to make the second one "catch up", that second one will start receiving with push but the first one no longer does. I can keep doing this, and it seems like only one can be "active" at a time.
I've tried different clients with the same results, and tried Touchdown which many people recommend, but Touchdown is built to allow only one active profile at a time (so only one EAS account pushing or polling).
I'm beginning to think it's a device limitation on the Evo 3D but it would be great to get around that - I've seen bits and pieces around saying that, due to licencing, iPhones can have up to 5 EAS accounts at a time, and different Android phones can have varying numbers, but haven't seen anything particularly clear or definitive.
Any help would be much appreciated. I'm running stock ROM, ICS 4.0.3.
Cheers