Hi,
I'm thinking about getting an Atrix as my next phone, but I have a few questions:
1. Will the bootloader/encryption ever be cracked? Will the phone ever get true custom ROMs e.g CyanogenMod?
2. How's the camera on the Atrix?
3. In all truthfulness, how is Motoblur? Wil Motoblur with Gingerbread change anything?
4. If the bootloader/encryption is ever cracked, will devs be able to replace WebTop with something better, like ChromeOS or Ubuntu?
5. The Lapdock trackpad doesn't have multitouch, correct?
Sorry if any of these have been asked before
Thanks,
Phil
redbullcat said:
Hi,
I'm thinking about getting an Atrix as my next phone, but I have a few questions:
1. Will the bootloader/encryption ever be cracked? Will the phone ever get true custom ROMs e.g CyanogenMod?
2. How's the camera on the Atrix?
3. In all truthfulness, how is Motoblur? Wil Motoblur with Gingerbread change anything?
4. If the bootloader/encryption is ever cracked, will devs be able to replace WebTop with something better, like ChromeOS or Ubuntu?
5. The Lapdock trackpad doesn't have multitouch, correct?
Sorry if any of these have been asked before
Thanks,
Phil
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1) Most likely, but there's no way to know for sure. If it is, it probably wont be any time soon. However, there's a promising trick called 2init that allows custom roms (sans custom kernels) on other locked down Motorola devices that's being looked at for a possible port to the Atrix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052550
2)Not the greatest, but its not terrible either. It has a little bit of color banding on darker colors, but so long as the lighting is good the images come out decent.
3) Motoblur frankly sucks. It just slows the phone down. You can install an alternative launcher and it helps a bit, but its still running in the background.
When the 2.3 Gingerbread update comes out, it should help tremendously if the Droid X version of the updated motoblur is anything to judge by.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMKIgqHAlJc
4) Most likely. In fact, there are already hacks that enable modification of the webtop environment, effectively turning it into a fork of Ubuntu.
5) I dont know, dont have a webtop dock. I would assume it does.
I would definitely recommend the phone, though, if your looking for raw performance. Just replace the motoblur launcher and this thing flies.
So tomorrow I'm getting a atrix and I have a few questions as this phone is a little different then most
1. With the web top thing is that on a diffrent partition like can I use it if I'm on cm7/9
2. If I use the HDMI mod for web top do I need a desperate keyboard and mouse or does the phone act as those
3. Same question as above except after switching to Ubuntu
4. Performance of the phone over all
Please and thx
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Franzferdinan51 said:
So tomorrow I'm getting a atrix and I have a few questions as this phone is a little different then most
1. With the web top thing is that on a diffrent partition like can I use it if I'm on cm7/9
2. If I use the HDMI mod for web top do I need a desperate keyboard and mouse or does the phone act as those
3. Same question as above except after switching to Ubuntu
4. Performance of the phone over all
Please and thx
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA
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Right now, webtop only works with blur-based ROMs. In other words, only on stock rom or the Nottach's Blur rom. Otherwise, it will not work. Not for CM7 or 9.
I can't answer the issues with HDMI or the Ubuntu question, as I don't use either, but as far as performance, it's easily one of the best performing phones out there, and out performs on battery compared to the majority of phones available. Seriously, it's got a lot of juice, I'm not even sure if there are any batteries bigger, aside from ones that have to be for bigger screens (ie. Galaxy Note)
I have an artix with ginger 2.3.5. I am thinking of upgrading to the 4.x, ics or jellybean.
One problem that I worry about my artix's dock. If I succeed to upgrade it, will the dock be useless?
My question is,, can any 4.x ROM be compatible with artix's dock?
Any suggestion will be appreciated!
ark.bandage said:
I have an artix with ginger 2.3.5. I am thinking of upgrading to the 4.x, ics or jellybean.
One problem that I worry about my artix's dock. If I succeed to upgrade it, will the dock be useless?
My question is,, can any 4.x ROM be compatible with artix's dock?
Any suggestion will be appreciated!
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I want to do this as well. If anyone know please share the info. I don't care if it's webtop or just tablet version ICS.
Paranoid Android has a hybrid tablet mode where you can chose some apps to display in tablet mode.
I used it for a while with my lapdock, I installed dolphin browser to use in tablet mode with lapsock.
Not great but workable.
I have however switched back to maxblur 5 with Ubuntop as I needed more functionality.
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Larac said:
Paranoid Android has a hybrid tablet mode where you can chose some apps to display in tablet mode.
I used it for a while with my lapdock, I installed dolphin browser to use in tablet mode with lapsock.
Not great but workable.
I have however switched back to maxblur 5 with Ubuntop as I needed more functionality.
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Is "Paranoid Android" a ROM? I am new. Please forgive my uninitiation.
If I install paranoid android into my mb860, and then I connect the cell phone to the dock, can the cell phone's screen project to the dock's screen?
ark.bandage said:
Is "Paranoid Android" a ROM? I am new. Please forgive my uninitiation.
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A quick search reveals the answer.
ark.bandage said:
If I install paranoid android into my mb860, and then I connect the cell phone to the dock, can the cell phone's screen project to the dock's screen?
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That's the idea.
Short answer: Currently, no.
Webtop/dock requires Blur in order to work, or so the devs say. Since there's no official ICS rom, there's no blur and Webtop. I believe a DEV was able to slap together a standalone Webtop which could go as far as launching from a CM7 Rom, but it was a WIP and was dropped, mostly a proof-of-concept. Also, I don't have a link ready.
Also, mortorola is rumoured to drop Webtop functionality in ICS/JB, so I'm afraid you're out of luck.
Stick to GB if you want dock functionality, I'm afraid.
41. said:
Short answer: Currently, no.
Webtop/dock requires Blur in order to work, or so the devs say. Since there's no official ICS rom, there's no blur and Webtop. I believe a DEV was able to slap together a standalone Webtop which could go as far as launching from a CM7 Rom, but it was a WIP and was dropped, mostly a proof-of-concept. Also, I don't have a link ready.
Also, mortorola is rumoured to drop Webtop functionality in ICS/JB, so I'm afraid you're out of luck.
Stick to GB if you want dock functionality, I'm afraid.
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He actually didn't even ask about webtop.
I just got one of those 20$ lapdocks from Radioshack and was wondering what are the best ROMs with webtop? Right now I'm using Jokersax' CM9 (but considering switching to epinter's CM10) and just doing HDMI mirroring. I'd prefer to stick with my current ROM if there is some kind of webtop like thing or maybe Ubuntu or Debian that I can install on it. I have an 8GB microSD card and 5 gigs of internal storage left so space is not an issue.
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
jisse44 said:
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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This is your Nottachtrix 1.3.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567241
This is the webtopmod you used ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093790
Extra question: Does Lapdock used webtop to work? Multimedia dock and lapdock using the same "webtop"? Or multimedia dock and lapdock have different "webtop"?
dotamaple said:
Extra question: Does Lapdock used webtop to work? Multimedia dock and lapdock using the same "webtop"? Or multimedia dock and lapdock have different "webtop"?
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Two different things.
ravilov said:
Two different things.
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I see.. Thanks for your reply.
If my Atrix is with ICS/JB. I still can use lapdock features? Just webtop not will work in ICS/JB ROM?
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Deafcyclist said:
Yes, you should just have mirroring via HDMI to the display. Resolution might not match the screen and looks a little aliased though. GB based rom have webtop and that match the resolution of the screen and makes it look much better.
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Do you mean i still can use lapdock features after flashed to ICS/JB?
dotamaple said:
This is your Nottachtrix 1.3.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567241
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Yep.
dotamaple said:
This is the webtopmod you used ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093790
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Yep. See my last post on that topic for few mods.
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Deafcyclist said:
You should be able to. Just not with the web top. Though I have heard that JB can be a Little wonky with hdmi mirroring.
I've used jokersax CM9 without issue except for that aliasing issue.
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Without the Full version of Firefox? :crying:
dotamaple said:
Without the Full version of Firefox? :crying:
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Yes, without full version of Firefox.
Maybe you should go read up on various HDMI output modes.
Whats this about 20 dollar laptop docks?
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Whats this about 20 dollar laptop docks?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793300
Look around the end of the thread.
jisse44 said:
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
Kanan875 said:
So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
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I have 1GHz Faux kernel 026b, so the results are not the best, I prefer longer battery than high performance.
Results are: Total: 2494. CPU: 2748, Mem: 2689, IO: 4605, 2D: 265, 3D: 2162
(Result is 2819 with 1.3GHz Faux kernel)
Kanan875 said:
So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
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define "full".
There is a "way" to run a full distro, but you'll be VNCing into it, since the terminal doesn't support a graphical output., anyways, it works alright, video is wonky though, so I wouldn't recommend that, but even openoffice works.
http://linuxonandroid.org/
you can also check the thread here at XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585027
jisse44 said:
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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HI, this post is a bit old now so im sure things have changed a bit, im hoping to get my atrix rooted this week(by my cousin) and want the right rom put on it, im a complete noob and all the threads that ive read about with the lapdock, talk about changing things.
In your experience which rom just works, Id like to be able to use maps, camera and video camera aswell as lapdock.
Any advice is appreciated as ive got headache with trying to read up on all this.
cheers
Joe
I see that the last post to this thread (before mine) is dated 3 years ago and the questions in it went unanswered, so I am doubtful that my question(s) will be seen or answered as well, but here goes.
This is my first post to these forums, so keep that in mind if I make any mistakes, or break any rules. I own 3 Motorola Atrix 4G phones in various states of working, plus the Lapdock, which is IMO brilliant and the main reason for me searching out this phone and buying 2 replacement phones after my first Atrix 4G LCD screen stopped working. In fact, I bought the Lapdock to use with my Raspberry Pi first, then decided I wanted the cell phone to use with the Lapdock. I still like the Atrix 4G, even though it replaced my iPhone (3S I think), which I lost (or it was stolen). My question(s) is/are the same as the OP and title of this thread, now that it is Sept. of 2015, what is the best ROM version and what is the latest version of Android I can use on my Atrix 4G, while still being able to use the Lapdock? I don't care if it means using the Webtop application, or a different Linux for ARM/Android desktop, but I don't want to lose any functionality of the stock cell phone. In fact, I want as much functionality as possible, so on occasions when I need to use the phone and lapdock combination as a temporary replacement for a full computer, I can do so, with reasonable limitations. The main functions I need/want in my Atrix 4G cell phone are: calling (obviously), GPS navigation, calendar, contacts, calculator, camera, taking notes for reminders, and searching the web for locations of things I need to buy, or places I need to go occasionally. I prefer Firefox as my web browser of choice, but can do with any good browser, if Firefox is not available with the best ROM & Android version choice for the Atrix 4G & lapdock combination.
I hope that some members here are still using the Atrix 4G, even though it is an old phone now, and they can give me their recommendations. I bought all 3 of my Atrix 4G phones unlocked and have zero experience at modifying or replacing ROM images on cell phones, but I am willing to learn how to do it, after I know what I will be aiming for with some recommendations. I also have almost zero experience with using Linux, but have checked it out a few times over the last 15+/- years.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
David
aka AmigaDave (Amiga = Commodore computer of 80's & 90's, not Spanish girlfriend)
The leak version works for me
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b088yj said:
The leak version works for me
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Thanks for the quick reply b088yj.
Since I am new to all of this, can you give me more info on what the "leak version" is and where I can find it? I don't want to assume I can figure out what you mean by "leak version", and end up with results that don't work, or take a chance of bricking my phone.
Is this "leak version" using the Webtop, or some other desktop GUI for when the phone is plugged into the Lapdock? I have no preference to keeping or replacing the Webtop with something else, so long as it "just works", and provides the same functionality, including all features on the phone working (like the finger print reader, sound, camera, etc.).
Also, what steps are needed to install it (if you can just provide me with some links to where I can find the specific information I need to read, I can figure it out for myself, but listing the specific steps you took to install the "leak version" on your Atrix 4G would be really helpful, plus if there is anything needed before, during, or after you install the "leak version" to make it all just WORK).
For example: To install the "leak version" you need to install X number of things on your Atrix 4G, asdfg + hjkl; + zxcvb in the order listed in the step-by-step instructions below.
Step 1: Backup your existing cell phone system, data and contacts using ???
Step 2: Wipe the system using ???
Step 3: Go here (link) and download file/app/utility/etc. abc.xyz
Step 4: Unzip and run, or install app/utility, or ???, on your cell phone/computer to transfer to your cell phone.
Step 5: Using a shell window, enter the following commands [email protected]#$%^&
Step 6: Repeat Steps 3 through 5 for file/app/utility/etc. 2 and 3, which you can find here (link) and here (link).
Step 7: Get on your knees and pray while rebooting your cell phone to see if it all worked
Like I wrote earlier, I have no idea what I need to do, but do have some common sense and can follow clearly written directions, if the person providing them to me does not assume that I know some part of the process and they leave out something they think is obvious and generally known to all cell phone hackers (which I am not to be considered in any shape, way, or fashion).
Thanks again,
David
aka AmigaDave
Edit: I see from your signature, you are using a LG-E980, does that mean that you no longer use your Atrix 4G?