I got to try out the stock camera on my DNA today.
The pics do it justice in high light situations. But noticing that they will do poorly on Zoomed and dim photos.
Here are unedited shots.
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Any tips on enhancing it even more to get the most out of the DNA camera? any mods?
In low light conditions, switch the ISO to 200 and use flash, it will take decent to nice pics that way, especially if the object or person isn't that far away... It may be a little hard to see the object/person but I think it does well..
Nice pics
Hope it helps
You might also note that the default resolution w/ a widescreen (16:9) picture is only about 6 megapixels. If you switch to the 4:3 resolution, it will use the full resolution of the sensor and give you 8 megapixel pictures.
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You might also note that the default resolution w/ a widescreen (16:9) picture is only about 6 megapixels. If you switch to the 4:3 resolution, it will use the full resolution of the sensor and give you 8 megapixel pictures.
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One thing to keep in mind if you do this is that if you want to use the front camera you should switch it back to 16:9 to get the most resolution out of that one.
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Interesting tips didn't know that about the resolution.
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You might also note that the default resolution w/ a widescreen (16:9) picture is only about 6 megapixels. If you switch to the 4:3 resolution, it will use the full resolution of the sensor and give you 8 megapixel pictures.
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Excellent tip, did not know that. Thanks
jlevy73 said:
Excellent tip, did not know that. Thanks
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Yeah, the full blown 8M pics deff do a lot better, not to mention they're friggin huge.
Brax33 said:
Yeah, the full blown 8M pics deff do a lot better, not to mention they're friggin huge.
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If you use dropbox, box, or bitcasa, you can automatically sync your pictures to your account. Take pic, auto upload, then delete off phone (if space is an issue.)
jasoraso said:
You might also note that the default resolution w/ a widescreen (16:9) picture is only about 6 megapixels. If you switch to the 4:3 resolution, it will use the full resolution of the sensor and give you 8 megapixel pictures.
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The 8 megapixel picture will produce a larger file, but does it actually add in terms of better sharpness and richer details? I am just worried that the relatively weak sensor (it's a cell phone after all) will not be able add much more useful data beyond the 6 default megapixels, just more interpolated fluff.
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cowisland said:
The 8 megapixel picture will produce a larger file, but does it actually add in terms of better sharpness and richer details? I am just worried that the relatively weak sensor (it's a cell phone after all) will not be able add much more useful data beyond the 6 default megapixels, just more interpolated fluff.
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My understanding of the way the sensor is creating widescreen (16:9) pictures, is that it is cutting the top 10% and bottom 10% of the picture off. Setting the camera to 4:3 gathers data from the full sensor. I don't think it the interpolation is changing.
Another way to think about the 16:9 picture, is if you set the camera to take a 4:3 picture, and then printed the picture, you would have a picture with a 4:3 ratio. If you then cut the top 10% (or so) and the bottom 10% (or so) of the picture off of the print, you would then have the same 16:9 picture that you would have had if you had the camera set to the default setting. It doesn't really effect the 16:9 picture, but you aren't utilizing the full surface area of the sensor.
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Why? Is it technical thing?
Because thi is the ratio of the sensor, other format involves cropping that reduces total mpix of the output.
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This is from the 808 but it gives you an idea. The sensor has a fixed shape, so the wider you go the more pixels you have to ignore.
Professorial cameras shoot in 4:3
Deblow said:
Professorial cameras shoot in 4:3
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So..
We are the professional
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Deblow said:
Professorial cameras shoot in 4:3
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The last time I check "professional cameras" are all 3:2, no?
If you take a picture in 9mp 16:9 and then change it to 12mp 4:3 and take a pic of the same thing, you'll see that you get more of the top and bottom in the image compared to 9mp. It's just cropping 3mp from the top and bottom of the 4:3 pic to get the 16:9 ratio.
It's just a popular ratio + the camera image fills our screen when set to 16:9 so it looks nicer.
Normally the sensor is 4:3, they just made it like this from the big die... some times, they cut it in other aspects like 3:2 or something it's all about manufacturing and getting the best cost...
here's a regular sensor, which is just 4:3
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/DMCGH1/ZSENSOR-LG.JPG
so imagine this sensor is 12MP, you will have an image that take the whole sensor, if you need a 16:9 image you will have three options:-
1- Stretch : ouch, should not be an option at all !!
2- Expand Horizontally : Impossible, because with 12MP you already use the full width and height, there's now where to Expand any where..
3- Crop vertically : It's the only option, by cropping from both top and bottom till the aspect ratio is 16:9 you will have the image you want.. but you will loose pixels ( Megapixels ) and incase of a 12MP you will have several MP cuts.. some camera might give you 9MP and some might give you 8MP...
same goes for Xperia arc, which has 8MP sensor, if you want 16:9 picture, the software will cut 1MP bar from top and another 1MP bar from bottom.. you will have a 6MP image by then...
some cameras are native 16:9 but these are rare, I only saw some in Pro camcorder, and with these the role will be inverted, you have a 16:9 sensor, so to get a 4:3 image you will need to crop two vertical bars from left and right so when capturing a 4:3 image with a 16:9 sensor you will also loose MP.. just like capturing 16:9 images with 4:3 sensors...
Thanks to the guys answering this thread. I've found this really interesting, never really thought about it before
Yeah, we all are now
And yes 3:2 lol
In fact IMO the 12MP 4:3 photos are more useful generally.
(That ratio also works better than 16:9 on Facebook, and since most of our photos would end up in there anyway, why not choose this? )
16:9 is too long and sometimes would look really strange, especially if you also do photography with a normal camera.
It all depends on what your subject is and what you use to view the pictures. I prefer 16:9 when viewing the on the TV at it fills all the area, and 4:3 at other times. I was annoyed when I bought a Fuji bridge camera that had 14MP, only on 16:9 too! By the time I got XS, I came to expect this
Our i717 Note it only records 1080p with the middle/center sensor. Is it limited bc of hardware? bc when I record 720p it feels like its zoomed out but thats bc its using the whole sensor and thats not happening when its recording 1080p(feels like it's zoomed in). Any way to fix that?
EDIT: The international note does it as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpluo2kcBuo So is it really about hardware? or software? Any way to fix it?
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I don't get why on the international version of the note it uses FULL 1080p HD recording (using all of the cameras sensors) but yet our i717 Note it only records 1080p with the middle/center sensor. Is it limited bc of hardware? bc when I record 720p it feels like its zoomed out but thats bc its using all the sensors and thats not happening when its recording 1080p. Any way to fix that?
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I don't understand what you mean by "using all the sensor". There is only one sensor in both the int. And US note.
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I don't understand what you mean by "using all the sensor". There is only one sensor in both the int. And US note.
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I mean its using the whole sensor where as recording in 1080p its only recording in the middle of the sensor instead of using the whole thing. Try it yourself, record in both 720p and 1080p. You will see what im talking about.
Opps double post.
Yeah I tried it and maybe I'm just an idiot but I really can't see what your talking about. All I know is the 1080p (or whatever the max is on the phone) looks freaking sweet on my tv when I record. I guess if you had side by side comparison videos we could see what your talking about
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I get that as well... If you record on 1080P then the video seems zoomed in compared to 720P recording
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I get that as well... If you record on 1080P then the video seems zoomed in compared to 720P recording
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Yeah, I get what the OP means/ I also have the problem. When he says it only uses the "middle sensor" It means that the video on the phone is cut in half. It's the same effect as iPhone 4 Pictures/ Video Where Pictures would be full size whilst video seemed to be zoomed in.
well considering 180P has more pixels than 720P. the 1080 is probably zoomed in to fill up the screen whereas the 720 will natively fit the screen.
regardless our screens cannot natively output 1080p only 720P. (1920 X 1080 or something)
1080p will be zoomed in and the left and right will be cut off. (1280 X 720)
720 p will be letter boxed.
well thats my guess
interesting. I also noticed that the video was "zoomed in". I thought it was normal since my girlfriends iphone does the same thing. I guess in order to find out if its truly zoomed in would be to watch a 1080p video on a computer to see if what was actually recorded is wider (shows more picture) than what is being shown on the phone. Still..if the international version isnt "zoomed in" i wonder why the att version is..
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well considering 180P has more pixels than 720P. the 1080 is probably zoomed in to fill up the screen whereas the 720 will natively fit the screen.
regardless our screens cannot natively output 1080p only 720P. (1920 X 1080 or something)
1080p will be zoomed in and the left and right will be cut off. (1280 X 720)
720 p will be letter boxed.
well thats my guess
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As you can see here that's not the case. 720p on the left and 1080p on the right.
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Yeah, I get what the OP means/ I also have the problem. When he says it only uses the "middle sensor" It means that the video on the phone is cut in half. It's the same effect as iPhone 4 Pictures/ Video Where Pictures would be full size whilst video seemed to be zoomed in.
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No that's not what I mean . In 1080p recording it only records within the middle of the sensor. Look at the post above and you will understand.
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As you can see here that's not the case. 720p on the left and 1080p on the right.
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So 1080p is more zoomed in? Anyone with an international version want to show if their 1080p is zoomed out?
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So 1080p is more zoomed in? Anyone with an international version want to show if their 1080p is zoomed out?
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I was wrong, the international note does it as well and that has a stronger chip inside. ------> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpluo2kcBuo LOOK HOW BAD 1080p looks compared to 720p!
Maybe it could be fixed by software?
BUMP! There's no way to fix this? Like I want to use 1080p video but it doesn't use the whole camera sensor
so...no fix?
having this problem on my galaxy s 2 t989, as far as i remember with stock rom 2.3.6 it was fine...since i updated to ics 4.0.4 (oficial t mobo version) the issue started...tried custom roms...jelly bean roms, android 4.1.2 , 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 and the problem still the same
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LOOK HOW BAD 1080p looks compared to 720p!
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Comparing the two pictures posted above, 1080p actually looks a lot better than the 720p sample. It's just more zoomed in. I've had the same experience with mine. It looks worse while recording, but once I transfer the file to a computer or TV, 1080p looks a LOT better than 720p. I was a bit pissed off at it when I first got the phone, but I grew to love it. I can get closer to the subject without actually moving closer. It's led me to get some really great close-ups while shooting video. Phone cameras are generally very wide-angle, and it's kinda nice to have a mode that works a bit like a telephoto lens. Think of it this way: FREE OPTICAL ZOOM!
Hi,
Can someone with leaked ICS upload some pictures from phone?
I'm wondering is moto made some quality improvements over GB...
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The quality is just as good as before but tapatalk cuts down the picture size by a good bit so take that as it is. This is from a maxx on ics 206 of my carport floor I did Saturday.
The pictures look great. I wish there was a full resolution upload option
Here's another shot but indoors.
I am very pleased indeed with photo quility especially using ics camera +
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stkiswr said:
The quality is just as good as before but tapatalk cuts down the picture size by a good bit so take that as it is. This is from a maxx on ics 206 of my carport floor I did Saturday.
The pictures look great. I wish there was a full resolution upload option
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That is one nice floor. I am planing to do the same thing with my garage floor.
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That is one nice floor. I am planing to do the same thing with my garage floor.
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Thanks. It is worth it if you are considering it. Its very nice to walk out into a nice clean carport and not get dirty feet lol. My kids can sit down now and move around out there. I have maybe $130 invested in it and at minimum added value to my home.
that's one fine details on the cat!
Someone else gets some pictures blurry with 2.3.6 stock?
I hope the camera gets improved with ICS update
This thing takes 8MP images and folks are comparing scaled-down web-shots?
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This thing takes 8MP images and folks are comparing scaled-down web-shots?
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When I look at the pictures I upload on my PC they look a little bit blurry, but when looking directly on them from the phone they seem "fine"
On .210
this is with my xt912 P:
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this is with my xt912 P:
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Cute is that with the ICS leak?
eyriiii said:
When I look at the pictures I upload on my PC they look a little bit blurry, but when looking directly on them from the phone they seem "fine"
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The blur is probably because a phone's shape doesn't lend itself to taking a shot AND holding the phone still. Also, the sensor is teensy tiny, and it doesn't have a very fast "shutter speed". So, it's like taking pics with an SLR in dim light with a 1/30 second shutter: it's going to have motion blur w/o a stand. If you want crystal clear shots, use a vise/stand of some kind.
Maybe Canon's or Nikon's next pro-sumer DSLR will make/receive calls, texts, and play Angry Birds.
I use CameraZoomFX which lets me prop the phone and 'tell' the camera to take the picture hands-free. Those shots are always very clear. Handheld shots, not so much.
Giblet535 said:
The blur is probably because a phone's shape doesn't lend itself to taking a shot AND holding the phone still. Also, the sensor is teensy tiny, and it doesn't have a very fast "shutter speed". So, it's like taking pics with an SLR in dim light with a 1/30 second shutter: it's going to have motion blur w/o a stand. If you want crystal clear shots, use a vise/stand of some kind.
Maybe Canon's or Nikon's next pro-sumer DSLR will make/receive calls, texts, and play Angry Birds.
I use CameraZoomFX which lets me prop the phone and 'tell' the camera to take the picture hands-free. Those shots are always very clear. Handheld shots, not so much.
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Oh will be nice to have a call with a 70-200 2.8 in hand
Okay, I'm lost....
Can anyone who still had pics prior to the leaks and NOW have one of the leaks post comparison pics? I mean seriously, as crisp as the photos are on GB, I can't see how there's such a need for enhancement to the razr's photo quality that it warrants a full thread. lol I'm still on a totally stock GB rom (anxiously biting my nails waiting for the update) and I'm ABSOLUTELY ASTONISHED at how crisp and detailed the camera's photos are.
Lol. Calls will be short with that lens on there. It would be funny though, seeing how huge people's arms get from holding a 4 kilo phone all day. They'd look like hermit crabs.
yeah its with ics leaks .204 let me look at my fb pictures maybe i got one with GB
i found one with GB
BTW - I've tried all of the "pro" camera apps available, and Camera FV-5 is easily the best one.
As to pictures on ICS vs GB, at least on .79, there isn't a huge change. It's all in the app you use.
The stock camera app on ICS seems to focus better prior to capture.
A good camera app should be able to take the same quality pic on GB as it would on ICS unless there was a flaw in the camera drivers under GB, which I don't think there was.
The Razr seems to have a decent sensor, but cheap / small optics. Don't get me wrong, it does take pretty good shots, but not like you'd see on a newer device with bigger, higher quality lenses. The sensor is only half of the battle, but people give the megapixel count all of their attention.
Some of the newer cams (like the OneX) have better optics and you can tell the difference right away. Plus a bigger lens helps keep noise down in dark shots.
To be honest, the camera isn't bad in the Sony Xperia Z Ultra. When set to iso 100, focus mode to multi auto focus and metering to average, you can get some pretty decent pictures should you be able to hold the phone ultra still even when dark.
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We may not have the best camera in the Z Ultra but when looking at these, it's not at all bad. All shots taken in slightly poor lighting and using the above settings:
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Your right, guess I missed that one.
However, this thread is about posting your BEST pictures, not just any picture.
Hopefully there will be more response.
Sunset taken by my zultra
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To be honest, the camera isn't bad in the Sony Xperia Z Ultra. When set to iso 100, focus mode to multi auto focus and metering to average, you can get some pretty decent pictures should you be able to hold the phone ultra still even when dark.
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We may not have the best camera in the Z Ultra but when looking at these, it's not at all bad. All shots taken in slightly poor lighting and using the above settings:
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must admit, i didn't know Z ultra was capable of taking detail photos. you have to be an expert in photography to pull this feat
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must admit, i didn't know Z ultra was capable of taking detail photos. you have to be an expert in photography to pull this feat
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^ Lol, well I do own a DSLR camera and have been into photography for years. I just manually changed some settings, held the phone ultra still and took the photos. Luckily the hamster remained still and posed for the pictures.
The blasted hamster has escaped as always. I still cannot find it since it likes hiding under the cupboards in the kitchen, dam thing.
It's escaped countless of times. Hard part is finding the animal. I've named it escape artist since whatever I try and do it escapes. :laugh:
Will shortly add some more pictures.
Just something from my desk to participate!
Will try better later.
My phone buddies. Can't go out without them.
I like the colors from this camera. Very natural for the most part.
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Best photo,even the best quality out there(z ultra camera)
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^ Lol, well I do own a DSLR camera and have been into photography for years. I just manually changed some settings, held the phone ultra still and took the photos. Luckily the hamster remained still and posed for the pictures.
The blasted hamster has escaped as always. I still cannot find it since it likes hiding under the cupboards in the kitchen, dam thing.
It's escaped countless of times. Hard part is finding the animal. I've named it escape artist since whatever I try and do it escapes. :laugh:
Will shortly add some more pictures.
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Could you share settings you often use for macro, daylight, portrait and indoor? (ISO, de-noise, focus type...) Do you use default ZU camera app?
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Could you share settings you often use for macro, daylight, portrait and indoor? (ISO, de-noise, focus type...) Do you use default ZU camera app?
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Yes, I use the default Z Ultra camera.
Settings for all photos are as follows:
7M resolution
Focus mode to multi auto focus
White balance to WB Auto
ISO to 100
Metering to average
Image stabiliser off
Hope this helps.
Both photos shot indoors with poor light.
One converted to black and white.
Some more random photos:
Took these this morning before work. They came out VERY sharp. Let me know what you think:
My best photo
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Center of my town, Örebro in Sweden. Yes we are blessed with a castle smack in the middle of our city.
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^ Great photo dannejanne, your town looks beautiful. I hope to visit Sweden some day.
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so ive upgraded to a z2 but after comparing the side by side shots of both devices, the z is so much more sharper to the point where it has better details
orginal z
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look at the clouds infront of the sun, total lack of sharpness on the z2. both shot superior auto and both automatically chose the backlight scene. oddly enough the z2 has almost double the file size.
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so ive upgraded to a z2 but after comparing the side by side shots of both devices, the z is so much more sharper to the point where it has better details
orginal z
z2
look at the clouds infront of the sun, total lack of sharpness on the z2. both shot superior auto and both automatically chose the backlight scene. oddly enough the z2 has almost double the file size.
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the higher the resoltution of your picture the worse quality, as always but lowering to 2mp makes pictures almost identicle across all xperias aside the effects of different lense sizes given your taking a daylight shot
also take note that almost all current avaliable firmware versions have a small camera issue causing pictures to turn out yellowish or very unfocused
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the higher the resoltution of your picture the worse quality, as always but lowering to 2mp makes pictures almost identicle across all xperias aside the effects of different lense sizes given your taking a daylight shot
also take note that almost all current avaliable firmware versions have a small camera issue causing pictures to turn out yellowish or very unfocused
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The z2 captured at 8mp and the z at 12 mp (their superior auto modes).
After further experimentation. The camera is very sensitive to minor discrepancies in the autofocus. If I capture the same scene, some of them will be clear and others not. Also, I believe that the physical camera button adds am extra element of shake.
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The z2 captured at 8mp and the z at 12 mp (their superior auto modes).
After further experimentation. The camera is very sensitive to minor discrepancies in the autofocus. If I capture the same scene, some of them will be clear and others not. Also, I believe that the physical camera button adds am extra element of shake.
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well i did find the Z2 camera to be realy good in manual mode but auto mode just makes pictures horrible, even in manual mode if your settings are auto they still turn out sharper than in auto,
i did do a test up against auto mode and we determined auto mode makes pictures less sharp and unbalanced in color
we also descovered the same issue for all 4.4 xperias, some being worse than others in auto mode
The SA mode on z1/z2 is extremely easy switch to sport mode when you just got minor hand shake and that will bump up the shutter speed and ISO. Thus the photo will probably appear more noise, darker and softer.
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The SA mode on z1/z2 is extremely easy switch to sport mode when you just got minor hand shake and that will bump up the shutter speed and ISO. Thus the photo will probably appear more noise, darker and softer.
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I absolutely agree with this. The Sport mode is ridiculous overzealous. I was just attempting to capture a totally static living room scene and the sport mode was flashing on and off whilst I was holding the device as still as possible.