I ordered a Softbank Tytn for my buddy and i noticed the IMEI number on the box and on the device do not match. The seller was the one to unlock the phone, so my guess is once it was unlocked, the unlocker made a copy of an unlocked phone (of the firmware) on to the new softbank.
I've searched the forum only to find SIM Changing tools for other phones but ours. I know the IEMI number can be changed back, but does anyone have leads to how this can be done?
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I ordered a Softbank Tytn for my buddy and i noticed the IMEI number on the box and on the device do not match. The seller was the one to unlock the phone, so my guess is once it was unlocked, the unlocker made a copy of an unlocked phone (of the firmware) on to the new softbank.
I've searched the forum only to find SIM Changing tools for other phones but ours. I know the IEMI number can be changed back, but does anyone have leads to how this can be done?
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Changing an IMEI is possible, but illegal in many countries.
I'm trying to understand why you want to change it though. Are you having some kind of trouble with the device and/or service?
Look where your sim goes or the battery on your phone and the IMEI should be there, if it is different than the code actually on the phone or not (press '*#06#' and press go or send)
Worry about the phone not the box.
You need to be careful the IMEI number may be right on the phone and the box wrong. That is if your 'seller' opened 2 boxes and then unlocked them both and put them in the wrong box, the other person may have your box and their own IMEI (as is on your box). Or they just tossed the wrong box.
I have not heard of any unlocking that changes the IMEI only an IMEI hack.
Unless there is something else
imasri29 said:
I ordered a Softbank Tytn for my buddy and i noticed the IMEI number on the box and on the device do not match. The seller was the one to unlock the phone, so my guess is once it was unlocked, the unlocker made a copy of an unlocked phone (of the firmware) on to the new softbank.
I've searched the forum only to find SIM Changing tools for other phones but ours. I know the IMEI number can be changed back, but does anyone have leads to how this can be done?
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Ibrahim, I sold you this phone and I bought it from CellularArena a few weeks earlier. There is no problem with using that phone with the changed IMEI. It is too bad that CellularArena buys their unlocked X01HT with that method of unlocking but there is no problem to use that phone.
Possible to change the IMEI number? Your Pooched
So if someone with one of these unlocked phones (all with the same IMEI),
has their phone stolen or lost reports the IMEI so it cannot be used too easily. The IMEI get's blacklisted, the users are all pooched.
All of them..
Bummer !
A good lesson to anyone looking to have their IMEI changed.
Be afraid.... very afraid !!
I also heard that many X01HT sold in the grey market don't have matching IMEI.... Don't know why but it's perhaps really due to their method of unlocking.
Just wondering what sort of trouble it will stir up if the same IMEI is being used on the same network.
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So if someone with one of these unlocked phones (all with the same IMEI),
has their phone stolen or lost reports the IMEI so it cannot be used too easily. The IMEI get's blacklisted, the users are all pooched.
All of them..
Bummer !
A good lesson to anyone looking to have their IMEI changed.
Be afraid.... very afraid !!
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Yeah.. this is true but in Canada anyways, Rogers and Fido (now Rogers) do not blacklist IMEI. Blacklisting is risky business especially with blacklisting IMEI of devices that were not purchased through official channels. If it was so simple, a person could call in and blacklist random phones (albeit terribly random).
If the HongKong seller of these phones has done this same procedure with every X01HT they sold, there must be hundreds with the same IMEI, but have you seen anyone come here and say my new phone is blacklisted? No.
It's too bad that the unlock was done that way, but I don't think it will have any negative effect for any of these users, unless they go to a country where that IMEI has been blacklisted. It is also possible that the IMEI that *#06# returns is not actually the IMEI that is reported to the network either (as is the case with many sony ericsson phones where the IMEI is stored in 2 places on the device [OTP/GDFS]).
Would this not also impact the owner's ability to use BlackBerry Connect?
As part of the registration it asks for the PIN and IMEI. If someone has used the IMEI then that would preclude the second (or third, or fourth...) from using it with BBC.
Just a thought.
Victor
vabiro said:
Would this not also impact the owner's ability to use BlackBerry Connect?
As part of the registration it asks for the PIN and IMEI. If someone has used the IMEI then that would preclude the second (or third, or fourth...) from using it with BBC.
Just a thought.
Victor
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But this doesnt happen with blackberries.
I've verified the IMEI off my friend's phone and compared it to the sticker at the back and the numbers do not match. So is there a way to change this number to the one on the box?
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I've verified the IMEI off my friend's phone and compared it to the sticker at the back and the numbers do not match. So is there a way to change this number to the one on the box?
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So does mine!
I just want to make the IEMI numbers same!
Sounds like you had purchased a stolen phone , if the number on the back of the phone doesnt match the number the phones software display's.
cannot see any reason including unlocking that the imei should change?
Karzi said:
cannot see any reason including unlocking that the imei should change?
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Actually I though they explained it very well. Whom ever unlocked these phones is lazy, they cloned one unlocked phone and then copied it to the rest IEMI and all.
Quick Question: Does the IMEI when you press *#06# match either the box or the sticker inside the battery compartment of the phone?
If *#06# IMEI matches the sticker on the phone then why care about the sticker on the box, they just were stupid putting phones back in the boxes.
On the other hand, if you the *#06# IMEI doesn't match the sticker in the battery compartment then you do have a phone with a changed IMEI. If you live or use the phone in a country where changing the IMEI is illegal (who doesn't anymore) then I'd not want to use it simply because if there ever is an issue you will be held responsible.
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I ordered a Softbank Tytn for my buddy and i noticed the IMEI number on the box and on the device do not match. The seller was the one to unlock the phone, so my guess is once it was unlocked, the unlocker made a copy of an unlocked phone (of the firmware) on to the new softbank.
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Actually I though they explained it very well. Whom ever unlocked these phones is lazy, they cloned one unlocked phone and then copied it to the rest IEMI and all.
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I wonder how a ROM can be cloned without the IMEI ... ?
The 0182 loader which is now not yet unlockable . A fail safe method is to clone a image from a unlocked DOPOD rom (of course , it still brick your X01HT if you smashed the IC) .
That explains why most of the X01HT sold in HK with a unmatch IMEI . The box and the phone itself has the matched IMEI (I consider it as a new , original one) , however , the *#06# will not show the matched IMEI .
I would like to know it possible to modifiy the IMEI as well , however , I can still accept my phone with a unmatched IMEI .
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I wonder how a ROM can be cloned without the IMEI ... ?
The 0182 loader which is now not yet unlockable . A fail safe method is to clone a image from a unlocked DOPOD rom (of course , it still brick your X01HT if you smashed the IC) .
That explains why most of the X01HT sold in HK with a unmatch IMEI . The box and the phone itself has the matched IMEI (I consider it as a new , original one) , however , the *#06# will not show the matched IMEI .
I would like to know it possible to modifiy the IMEI as well , however , I can still accept my phone with a unmatched IMEI .
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As of now, its not possible to change the IMEI. It's also, in MOST countries of the world, illegal to do so.
The ROM itself is not cloned. It is the Qualcomm baseband chip that is cloned (it contains the IMEI and radio). When it is duplicated the IMEI is also cloned. The phone is now unlocked (in nvm) and is ready to take any rom.
Karzi said:
Sounds like you had purchased a stolen phone , if the number on the back of the phone doesnt match the number the phones software display's.
cannot see any reason including unlocking that the imei should change?
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The reason is because the phone was not, at the time, unlockable any other way (that they knew of). Imei changes as result of above post.
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As of now, its not possible to change the IMEI. It's also, in MOST countries of the world, illegal to do so.
The ROM itself is not cloned. It is the Qualcomm baseband chip that is cloned (it contains the IMEI and radio). When it is duplicated the IMEI is also cloned. The phone is now unlocked (in nvm) and is ready to take any rom.
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Thanks very much for your update ... So , they are actually taking out the Qualcomm chip out from the PCB ?
If so , isn't that a good chance to reconnect the GPS connection ? (I remember that in the HERMES GPS project it mentioned that the GPS switch is grounded so the GPS is malfunction) Is it possible to connect the pin the enable it ? Or still lack of the related components ?
Thanks very much for your update !
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Thanks very much for your update ... So , they are actually taking out the Qualcomm chip out from the PCB ?
If so , isn't that a good chance to reconnect the GPS connection ? (I remember that in the HERMES GPS project it mentioned that the GPS switch is grounded so the GPS is malfunction) Is it possible to connect the pin the enable it ? Or still lack of the related components ?
Thanks very much for your update !
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I dont know... You should ask them.
Hi Guys,
I wonder if someone can help me.
I have been trying to dig it online but cant seems to find correct information. I have been to few mobile repair shops around London but not really convinced what the problem really is.
I have been using Samsung Galaxy Note 1 for some time now, but couple of weeks ago my connections starts dropping and i would just take the SIM out and put it back and it would start working again.
What is is that when i enter *#06# it doesn't show any IMEI number. I have tried to restore my phone and install new software didn't help.
Some of the mobile shops said they need to buy a new IMEI number, some said they need to open it and see and some said "Basement" has gone bad. Not sure what that is though. May be he meant Baseband...:laugh:
So here i am. Would appreciate if someone can direct me into right direction because i don't want any rookie to tear my phone apart.
Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance
Can't analyze your phone from far away. But is it possible that your phone went crazy after an OTG-update of the system?
Well, I think the easiest way for you is to flash a new firmware and I'd like to recommend an "alternative" software. My Note runs on "Team Union" (which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194307 ). This might fix your problem.
You'll find the IMEI number on the sticker under the battery. Have a look at http://www.galaxynoteforum.net/. and join. There is a thread regarding IMEI numbers, which might help. Good luck
Hi guys last week i sent my phone to be fixed due to a sound error. they said they changed the entire board so that imei number has changed. but i realized that they faked the imei number. i know that because when i checked my imei on internet, seems that its a gts8600 which is galaxy wave
now as the title i asked, does a brand new board come an imei in it or they write it themselves??
I believe the motherboard has its own generic imei number. Youll see this generic imei number instead of the shipped imei when the efs partition is formatted or corrupt. Meaning the imei that you see on your phone now is probably one that has been placed by the service center. Although what I don't understand is that why wouldn't they just input the imei no. that's mentioned underneath the battery instead.
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was it the official Samsung service center?
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I believe the motherboard has its own generic imei number. Youll see this generic imei number instead of the shipped imei when the efs partition is formatted or corrupt. Meaning the imei that you see on your phone now is probably one that has been placed by the service center. Although what I don't understand is that why wouldn't they just input the imei no. that's mentioned underneath the battery instead.
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Here in Turkey you have to register all imei numbers to the carriers in order to use your phone. i think the generic imei wasnt registered so they needed a registered one to make it work. For the serial you mentioned about underneath the battery, i think they needed my old efs backup to replace and since they dont have that either.... but i also think and just poped up in my head right now, my old board was working fine but the sound card. they could have taken my efs from it. and that will be the first think im gonna say them on monday morning...
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was it the official Samsung service center?
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of course they are not. could i complain this much if they were official. i would just give it back instead...
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Here in Turkey you have to register all imei numbers to the carriers in order to use your phone. i think the generic imei wasnt registered so they needed a registered one to make it work. For the serial you mentioned about underneath the battery, i think they needed my old efs backup to replace and since they dont have that either.... but i also think and just poped up in my head right now, my old board was working fine but the sound card. they could have taken my efs from it. and that will be the first think im gonna say them on monday morning...
of course they are not. could i complain this much if they were official. i would just give it back instead...
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That could explain why they added some other imei. If I'm not mistaken in Turkey they usually give you 2 weeks to register your imei before suspending it? In that case I would advice you to push the service center to place your old imei number and register your phones actual imei with the network. At least so that you don't face difficulty with updating through KIES or any other situation.
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That could explain why they added some other imei. If I'm not mistaken in Turkey they usually give you 2 weeks to register your imei before suspending it? In that case I would advice you to push the service center to place your old imei number and register your phones actual imei with the network. At least so that you don't face difficulty with updating through KIES or any other situation.
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yes you are right about two weeks. my old imei number was registered. but there are some answers i need
1) what is corrupted efs? if i temper with the orijinal imei even placing my old one instaed, does the phone thinks corrupted anyway?
2) if that's so, im gonna tell them to register the new imei number that comes with the board. my present imei that im using now when i searched it from internet it seems 8600 not 9300 but also registered too.
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yes you are right about two weeks. my old imei number was registered. but there are some answers i need
1) what is corrupted efs?
Its is the EFS folder that contains the IMEI.
if i temper with the orijinal imei even placing my old one instaed, does the phone thinks corrupted anyway?
Yes and its illegal .
The service centre should sort all the IMEI stuff not you .
jje
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So back in febuary I went from ATT to T-Mobile. With a galaxy s4 ATT provided me an unlock pin popped in my tmobile sim and it was unlocked. Later I had to send in my phone because my camera was malfunctioning.. I asked the rep before sending in my device if I will lose my unlock.. They said no. They repaired the phone.. Replaced the camera and PBA (motherboard) because it was also power cycling. So when I got the phone back I popped in my T-Mobile Sim and it was asking me to enter in the unlock pin.. Luckily I had the same unlock pin from febuary I entered that in and nothing happened I tried it again nothing. so I called Samsung and they said I need to call att and request a new unlock.. Called att requested a new unlock and they provided me with the same unlock pin like the first time. and they said only one unlock pin can be assigned to one IMEI number. called Samsung back and said they can't do anything which is B.S... just paid for this phone.. anyways now my phone is acting up again.. Running slow.. Some of the apps show "unavailable" or not responding. I went to the service menu by doing the *#0011# to try doing an unlock another way but it won't work for me.. one thing I caught was the IMEI CERTI: NA.. Idk if tht has something to do with it? any one have any tips? Or that can help?
Is there any way to confirm that the IMEI is the same? It's possible they might have had to swap out the motherboard if it was easier. Check to see if all the #s match between the sticker behind the battery, in the Settings, and when you dial *#06# then see if that's what ATT has on record.
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Is there any way to confirm that the IMEI is the same? It's possible they might have had to swap out the motherboard if it was easier. Check to see if all the #s match between the sticker behind the battery, in the Settings, and when you dial *#06# then see if that's what ATT has on record.
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Thanks for your reply... I triple checked the IMEI #'s and they are exactly the same.. behind the battery.. settings and dialing all the same exact IMEI prior to sending in the UNIT for repair.. what strikes me the most is trying to do the unlock by going into the service mode and it says IMEI CERTI: NA
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Thanks for your reply... I triple checked the IMEI #'s and they are exactly the same.. behind the battery.. settings and dialing all the same exact IMEI prior to sending in the UNIT for repair.. what strikes me the most is trying to do the unlock by going into the service mode and it says IMEI CERTI: NA
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Hmm. I wondering if they didn't swap the motherboard and write your IMEI to it, but for some reason it didn't transfer the whole EFS (not just the folder, but the stuff in the modem too) contents which include the IMEI Certificate. If that didn't transfer over or have the right permissions then that could explain it... Haven't had to deal with an issue like that though, so can't really say.
You're probably better served maybe asking some questions @ forum.gsmhosting.com as they deal with issues like this more often than most people on XDA. Either way, you're in for a tough fix if that is what happened because not many people know much about this since it is a fairly rare issue.
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Hmm. I wondering if they didn't swap the motherboard and write your IMEI to it, but for some reason it didn't transfer the whole EFS (not just the folder, but the stuff in the modem too) contents which include the IMEI Certificate. If that didn't transfer over or have the right permissions then that could explain it... Haven't had to deal with an issue like that though, so can't really say.
You're probably better served maybe asking some questions @ forum.gsmhosting.com as they deal with issues like this more often than most people on XDA. Either way, you're in for a tough fix if that is what happened because not many people know much about this since it is a fairly rare issue.
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I was wondering that too.. I mean could that be the problem that the IMEI CERTI says : NA? I actually sent my phone back again today.. i wrote a letter along with it explaining my whole situation actually attached a picture of that service mode so they know. I also posted onto gsmhosting.
A quick question...
I have a S10 Lite which was new. It is a dual SIM version and it had two separate IMEI numbers with last two digits of each IMEI being 2 digits apart.
However, it had a fault that required anew motherboard.
As it was under warranty I sent it back to Samsung, they collected it...replaced the motherboard and returned it back to me.
Now it has two IMEI numbers but they are both the same....same as one of the original numbers. The serial number is the same as the old board.
Is this normal practice for Samsung?
Would having the same IMEI numbers make any difference?
It doesn't sound normal to me. I would call the service to describe this and ask if it is normal.
In Note 8 i had a problem. Samsung service replaced the motherboard also. When i got the phone i found out it was 1 card (original it was dual). I don't remember what imei i saw, although i think i saw only 1 imei, so it is not exactly the same case as yours probably.
Anyone samsung service in my area is someone i know. I thought it replaced the motherboard with a single phone motherboard instead a dual phone. But it was a mistake in software. He installed wrong software making it single card phone.. I went there, i waited, we downloaded another software, we flashed it and phone went dual phone again.. If i didn't see it with my eyes i wouldn't believe it, that it was just software for this.
Anyway i suspect some flashing problem also in your case but i am not sure. I don't think 2 same imei is normal. Phone service.