Was wondering if this is even remotely possibly, or if it's already been done. I love almost all of sense's features like the camera, dialer, sms, etc....but i HATE the app drawer, lockscreen, and multitask screen. are there any roms, or is it possible to modify a rom, to have the features i mentioned de-sensed running vanilla instead of sense? thanks for taking the time to read this
chrisosaur said:
Was wondering if this is even remotely possibly, or if it's already been done. I love almost all of sense's features like the camera, dialer, sms, etc....but i HATE the app drawer, lockscreen, and multitask screen. are there any roms, or is it possible to modify a rom, to have the features i mentioned de-sensed running vanilla instead of sense? thanks for taking the time to read this
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viper has an option for aosp lock screen and recents, and if you use a third party launcher you can get an aosp lock drawer. Also nos's sense 5 ROM has a flashable aosp recents.
You can also get the aosp lock screen on any ROM by deleting htclockscreen.apk in /system/app
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Check in the app/mod request section. The AOSP recent apps mod is there. ViperDNA has all the modifications you mentioned baked into it. Also, you can use Nova Launcher from the Play Store on any ROM, regardless of root. This will fix your app drawer problem. Below is the link to Nova Launcher.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
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It just dawned on me now that I am using Launcher Pro that when I long press, I no longer get the option to add a Samsung Widget to my home screen.
Any way around this?
... other than just going back to stock launcher ?
Nope. The Samsung widgets are part of TouchWiz.
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Nope. The Samsung widgets are part of TouchWiz.
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So are many other elements of the device (notification panel, different contacts app, etc etc etc). Using another launcher app does not disable Touchwiz as a whole, its just a new launcher. The widgets are still <i>there</i> I'm just not able to get to them right now, so I'm hoping maybe someone is able to yank the APK or something so we're able to use them in non-default launchers.
They were written to be recognized and used by the Touchwiz launcher, they're not compatible with the ASOP launcher which is why they won't show up with other launchers. HTC Sense widgets have the same issue, and aside from completely rebuilding them, they haven't really found a way around it.
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So are many other elements of the device (notification panel, different contacts app, etc etc etc). Using another launcher app does not disable Touchwiz as a whole, its just a new launcher. The widgets are still <i>there</i> I'm just not able to get to them right now, so I'm hoping maybe someone is able to yank the APK or something so we're able to use them in non-default launchers.
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um, no they're not. As I am using the LauncherPro Beta right now. The notification panel is stock, the contact is stock everything is stock except the dock bar at the bottom, which is different and better and the drawer which Is 3D!!! I love it.
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um, no they're not. As I am using the LauncherPro Beta right now. The notification panel is stock, the contact is stock everything is stock except the dock bar at the bottom, which is different and better and the drawer which Is 3D!!! I love it.
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That is exactly what I was saying.
Using a different launcher (i.e. LaunderPro) does not "disable TouchWiz" and therefore you should still be able to use the TouchWiz widgets. Everything else is still there and TouchWiz is most definitely still there, running, etc... changing the Launcher is not disabling TouchWiz.
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That is exactly what I was saying.
Using a different launcher (i.e. LaunderPro) does not "disable TouchWiz" and therefore you should still be able to use the TouchWiz widgets. Everything else is still there and TouchWiz is most definitely still there, running, etc... changing the Launcher is not disabling TouchWiz.
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it does disable touchwiz. touchwiz is the launcher app. so when your not in touchwiz, you don't have it.
just like unless your on the sense home, you don't get the sense widgets.
the touchwiz widgets require the touchwiz launcher.
don't bother asking or repeating again because there is simply no way to make it work short of rebuilding the entire app as has been said.
Touchwiz and the touchwiz launcher are two different things.
You cannot "disable touchwiz" without flashing a custom rom. It IS the modified OS.
You are right that the widgets are built into the twlauncher apk, so you can't use them in any other launcher.
Let's be sure we aren't confusing touchwiz with twlauncher...
touchwiz is a skin on top of the android os just like sense is.......you disable the touchwiz launcher then everything associated with touchwiz is disabled only giving access to basic android widgets.
Oh lawrdy, the fighting...
When I was using launcher pro I couldn't use samsung widgets, but the apps were unaffected.. So just disabling touchwiz launcher disables the widgets (or makes them harder to use at least) but the apps with the phone (including the notification bar) keep going...
So even if you just disable the launcher, you lose the widgets (unless they are just hiding because the samsung widget button was gone and they weren't in my regular widget are either)
im no dev here and my coding knowledge is minimal so sorry if i sound stupid saying this, but if the twlauncher is integrated to the framework, couldnt someone use a modify a launcher replacement by kanging some code from the twlauncher so the launcher replacement utilizes the framework or is it much more complicated than that?
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im no dev here and my coding knowledge is minimal so sorry if i sound stupid saying this, but if the twlauncher is integrated to the framework, couldnt someone use a modify a launcher replacement by kanging some code from the twlauncher so the launcher replacement utilizes the framework or is it much more complicated than that?
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If I'm understanding you correctly then yes it is that simple, but figuring out how to do that is not simple without the code...
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Okay ladies Ill explain all lol, disabling the touchwiz launcher does in no way effect the widgets but you cannot use them in other launchers because they are not programmed to recognize them touchwiz itself is the custom framework that samsung has created for this phone, so if a dev enabled it you could use them in any launcher as long as the system/framework/twframework.jar and twframework-res.apk are there along with some key files in the sytem/lib folder to associate them to the system so really the launcher is nothing but a pretty blind over the window if you will and in no way stops you from using the widgets other than the other launchers are not programmed to look for them.
So I'm loving this One, but some of the stock apps I'm not liking (primarily MMS, mail, browser, keyboard, launcher)
I've installed Nova, Chrome, Swiftkey, chomp, and gmail, which are doing a great job of replacing and I've nearly got the phone in a good place.
My problem is that the Sense lockscreen still shows the stock apps, including indicators for new text messages i've already read via chomp. Now that I'm using Nova Launcher, I can't figure out how to modify the sense lockscreen to change the apps that are at the base there.
Almost all of this is being done because while I like blinkfeed enough, I already use Flipboard and don't want that as my initial screen and it seems like Sense isn't going to allow us to have a more traditional homescreen with blinkfeed to the left or right. I'm also not a huge fan of swapping between modes of blinkfeed+icons and traditional home screen.
I'm posting this here in T-mo General looking for advice because flashing another ROM isn't an option for me. My understanding is that flashing a ROM will lose the wifi calling capability, and that is really important for me. What would you guys do?
You should only lose wifi calling if you flash a AOSP based ROM. I understand that you want to "de-sense" you're phone so an AOSP ROM would be your best bet.
This phone is brand new so development is still slow right now but I bet you should start seeing some Sense-based ROM's without all the Sense bloat start popping up soon
In regards to your lockscreen issue, have you looked into using a lockscreen replacement like WidgetLocker?
Did you replace the icons in the dock on Rosie (Sense launcher).
I'm still using the Sense launcher and my lockscreen shows what I have on my dock.
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You should only lose wifi calling if you flash a AOSP based ROM. I understand that you want to "de-sense" you're phone so an AOSP ROM would be your best bet.
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Won't you potentially also lose some camera and other specialized functionality relative to the hardware?
That is correct. You will just have stock android camera without Zoe and all that jazz
I usually always go AOSP but I really like the camera features here. Gonna be a tough call
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My understanding is that flashing a ROM will lose the wifi calling capability, and that is really important for me. What would you guys do?
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You will lose wifi calling if you flash a non-tmobile rom, like one of the M7 HTC One roms or an AT&T rom.
elterible said:
That is correct. You will just have stock android camera without Zoe and all that jazz
I usually always go AOSP but I really like the camera features here. Gonna be a tough call
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Is it possible to flash the camera apk? is there a camera apk or is it part of sense itself?
I'm gonna take an educated guess based on my experience with Samsung. Usually custom camera apps are deeply integrated in custom android versions (sense, tw, etc). You can pull the apk and may even get it to install but my guess is that it will FC
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If you look in the AT&T sub forum of the One, there is a ahpla of CM10.1 which means that CM10.1 is being worked on right now for the One. I am sure it will work with all HTC Ones once it is done. I would give it a month or two and we should be pretty good off. It is still really early in the game.
I'm sure this has been covered but I couldn't find any threads, so please forgive me for rehashing something if I have missed it.
What is the difference between a desensed rom and an AOSP rom? I thought the only difference between a sense ROM and AOSP was the Sense launcher. If you remove this, wouldn't you just have AOSP type ROM?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Unfortunately not. The Sense launcher (known as Rosie) is but one piece of the Sense framework. The Sense framework affects the entire UI of the device (status bar, settings page, lockscreen, the list is a tad long...) as well as features that are "below" the UI so to speak, like system settings and the kernel. I'm not really sure what goes into (or out of) a ROM to "desense" it, but it's probably just some theming and removing some of the default Sense apps like the launcher and lockscreen in favor of more AOSP-like alternatives. This doesn't mean that the device isn't running Sense, though, it just means it's a bit harder to see it
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Unfortunately not. The Sense launcher (known as Rosie) is but one piece of the Sense framework. The Sense framework affects the entire UI of the device (status bar, settings page, lockscreen, the list is a tad long...) as well as features that are "below" the UI so to speak, like system settings and the kernel. I'm not really sure what goes into (or out of) a ROM to "desense" it, but it's probably just some theming and removing some of the default Sense apps like the launcher and lockscreen in favor of more AOSP-like alternatives. This doesn't mean that the device isn't running Sense, though, it just means it's a bit harder to see it
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You can run an alternative launcher what will give you the look, but not more.
If you desense your ROM using Romcleaner, you use an alternative launcher and some parts of the ROM ( apk ) are cleaned, but there are still sense elements.
But it is much faster ...
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Unfortunately not. The Sense launcher (known as Rosie) is but one piece of the Sense framework. The Sense framework affects the entire UI of the device (status bar, settings page, lockscreen, the list is a tad long...) as well as features that are "below" the UI so to speak, like system settings and the kernel. I'm not really sure what goes into (or out of) a ROM to "desense" it, but it's probably just some theming and removing some of the default Sense apps like the launcher and lockscreen in favor of more AOSP-like alternatives. This doesn't mean that the device isn't running Sense, though, it just means it's a bit harder to see it
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Thanks. So a desensed rom is only going to look different than a sense rom. It might look like AOSP, but the core sense components will still be there using memory and battery. I was wondering if a desensed ROM offered any improvements in memory usage or battery life, but I'm guessing not since just changing a launcher shouldn't do much for anything but looks.
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Thanks. So a desensed rom is only going to look different than a sense rom. It might look like AOSP, but the core sense components will still be there using memory and battery. I was wondering if a desensed ROM offered any improvements in memory usage or battery life, but I'm guessing not since just changing a launcher shouldn't do much for anything but looks.
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It won't look like an aosp rom either. It will look no diffrent to using a diffrent launcher on stock rom. But without sense in the background using up resources.
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AndroHero said:
It won't look like an aosp rom either. It will look no diffrent to using a diffrent launcher on stock rom. But without sense in the background using up resources.
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Are you saying a desensed ROM does use less resources and power even though it isn't AOSP?
Apologies if this is the wrong forum, I was unsure where to post it as the MIUI rom is not fixed to one phone in particular...
I have just flashed MIUIv5 for my HTC one X phone, absolutely love the rom, the graphical user interface and just about everything.
Unfortunately I am struggling with the launcher. I really love the launcher, but not being able to edit the shortcuts or change the icons with a few clicks is a killer. All the big third party launchers offer this simple feature. Quite a few third party apps end up with ugly icons with a background.
Can anyone recommend an MIUIv5 style launcher that could allow me to edit the icon/app short cuts on the desktop? I have played with Nova, Apex, Holo and they all get close with the various icon packs but the layout just doesn't look the same. I don't need an app drawer either so the MIUI launcher would have been perfect but for the icon/app issue.
Also, as much as I love this rom, many of the system apps installed I really do not or would not use. Coming from CM and AOSP roms, I would prefer not to have the system monitor apps, root monitor apps, app control, MI credit, cloud and whatever non essential apps. I would prefer it more like a bare bones rom. So my question, which of these system apps can I remove without causing rom instability? I like to install apps, play in root etc without multiple warnings, notifications for this and that.
Otherwise, fantastic stuff. I can see me being an MIUI user for a long time.
Does anyone use Google Now Launcher with this phone? If so has anyone noticed if it borks the HTC camera, taking away most of its features?
Noticed that right after installing the google launcher, cam was missing a lot of features. But i think you have to restart the phone after installation. Then all features appears. I Like the launcher or Nova etc... But hate the fact you can't have stock google lockscreen too. Sense lock screen with Google launcher does not look good.
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Noticed that right after installing the google launcher, cam was missing a lot of features. But i think you have to restart the phone after installation. Then all features appears. I Like the launcher or Nova etc... But hate the fact you can't have stock google lockscreen too. Sense lock screen with Google launcher does not look good.
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Someone on youtube posted the same issue. What you have to do to fix is remove the camera from the homescreen and replace it with the camera icon in the app drawer. For some reason that fixes it.