Recommendation + Question about kernal : - Nexus 10 General

My Rom is Rasbeanjelly
first , i have to say its the most stable rom !
i have Paranoid and Rotbox and a its much better rom (without offense , just my opinion).
sure a less options , but too much options its not always advantage... so thanks for that.
question
I have a question now... i am still new on android area , and the developer wrote after we the ROM i need to flash a Karnel
name Trinty , i have no idea how to do that, where to download that karnel , and what's happened if I just flash the Rom
without the kernal (what I just did), or if I can flash it now without format my all system and do the process again...
thanks a lot guys.

tzur87 said:
My Rom is Rasbeanjelly
first , i have to say its the most stable rom !
i have Paranoid and Rotbox and a its much better rom (without offense , just my opinion).
sure a less options , but too much options its not always advantage... so thanks for that.
question
I have a question now... i am still new on android area , and the developer wrote after we the ROM i need to flash a Karnel
name Trinty , i have no idea how to do that, where to download that karnel , and what's happened if I just flash the Rom
without the kernal (what I just did), or if I can flash it now without format my all system and do the process again...
thanks a lot guys.
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You flash the kernel just like the rom, AFTER you flash the rom. You can find the trinity kernel in the original development area.
You can flash the kernel anytime, you don't have to flash the rom again, just clean cache+dalvik cache after you flash the kernel.

thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A
lvnatic said:
You flash the kernel just like the rom, AFTER you flash the rom. You can find the trinity kernel in the original development area.
You can flash the kernel anytime, you don't have to flash the rom again, just clean cache+dalvik cache after you flash the kernel.
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thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A BUILT KERNEL...
SO WHY I HAVE TO FLASH IT AGAIN?
AND WHAT ABOUT ALL MY APPS AND STUFF? THEY ALL WIPE?

tzur87 said:
thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A BUILT KERNEL...
SO WHY I HAVE TO FLASH IT AGAIN?
AND WHAT ABOUT ALL MY APPS AND STUFF? THEY ALL WIPE?
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Yes, all ROMs come with a kernel. Most of them come with the stock kernel from samsung. Trinity, ktmanta, franco and others are custom kernels, based on those from samsung but with some small modifications for performance and battery life.
I'm not an expert in android coding, not even close, but from what I understood so far kernels are some kind of drivers for the CPU, GPU and the other hardware parts like bluetooth, gps and so on.
Short story: with custom kernels you can overclock the cpu or gpu, adjust the voltages etc.
Trinity kernel is a good choice, flash it and dont chage anything.
Nothing will be wiped.

thanks... but if i dont know how to change my
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
lvnatic said:
Yes, all ROMs come with a kernel. Most of them come with the stock kernel from samsung. Trinity, ktmanta, franco and others are custom kernels, based on those from samsung but with some small modifications for performance and battery life.
I'm not an expert in android coding, not even close, but from what I understood so far kernels are some kind of drivers for the CPU, GPU and the other hardware parts like bluetooth, gps and so on.
Short story: with custom kernels you can overclock the cpu or gpu, adjust the voltages etc.
Trinity kernel is a good choice, flash it and dont chage anything.
Nothing will be wiped.
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tzur87 said:
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
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It really depends on what you want out of your device/ROM. KTManta lets you hand-set a lot of tweaks, but also benchmarks just a smidge slower than other ROMs, for example, while Trinity is fairly fast.

tzur87 said:
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
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Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?

I dont know what do you ...
d2mac said:
Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
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I dont know what do you ...

d2mac said:
Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
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No. It's an issue with Android 4.2 from what I understand
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Which kernel had the longest battery life without making any tweaks?
Thanks.

Trinity
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Sensamic said:
Which kernel had the longest battery life without making any tweaks?
Thanks.
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There's a thread in here somewhere about just that. Have a search at it, although there's really no one kernel that's "best"-- they'll all interact with your ROM of choice, so it becomes a kernel/ROM combo to look at. Personally, Carbon's stock kernel does best by me.
@samwheat Oh look, the person who complains about how atrocious his battery life is and how it's all the device's fault is back to try and recommend kernels and ROMs to users.

for a lot of modification, KTManta is your best choice I think.

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Which kernel is better ?

Hi,
I realized these 2 leads kernels :
SpeedMod SGS2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182498
Ninphetamine-2.0.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179814
Which is the best for your opinion and what do you recommend ?
Neither try them both yourself .
jje
Ninphetamine-2.0.2 is the best and optimized kernel for all custom roms....
am using it now...
gnan10 said:
Ninphetamine-2.0.2 is the best and optimized kernel for all custom roms....
am using it now...
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PROOF ?????
jje
The best kernel is stock KG3 right now. All those custom kernels are based on outdated KF, since that's the latest released kernel source. None of them solve the Android OS bug either. I tried them all and returned to stock.
aydc said:
The best kernel is stock KG3 right now. All those custom kernels are based on outdated KF, since that's the latest released kernel source. None of them solve the Android OS bug either. I tried them all and returned to stock.
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Can you post a link for stock KG3 please ?
Can I install it over Cognition 1.31 ?
Right now I like Lulz-Kernel-Build-11-for-I9100-XXKG3 . Before i used Ninphetamine-2.0.2 it was good also.
aydc said:
The best kernel is stock KG3 right now. All those custom kernels are based on outdated KF, since that's the latest released kernel source. None of them solve the Android OS bug either. I tried them all and returned to stock.
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Me too. I haven't received any proof, that Ninphetamine is better.
Now I'm trying lulz. 24 hours flight is normal. At least it has better CPU power and clock management.
Ninphetamine is VERY fast, i'm trying to find something fast as it is.
Beside I can use setCPU to customize the clockspeed, I don't see any advantage if using customize kernel.
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isotoper said:
Ninphetamine is VERY fast, i'm trying to find something fast as it is.
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At least SGSII is already as very fast as you can't get it from it on 100% yet.
By default Ninphetamine uses ondemand CPU Profile. So, I hadn't noticed notable changes in speed with equal settings.
Battery life stayed the same, apropos.
betaelmer said:
Beside I can use setCPU to customize the clockspeed, I don't see any advantage if using customize kernel.
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setCPU doesn't provide for you any notable improvement in battery life. Undervolting (UV) does. So, setCPU on Ninphetamine provides UV. But the best way IMHO - is Tegrak Overclock Ultimate - it's capable to change voltage of the Core, Bus and GPU. And of course it works better on author's kernel (lulz - it means tegrak kernel).
Unfortunately, setCPU is not fully compatible with all kernels and vice versa - Tegrak is not compatible with all kernels.
If you recommand the stock KG3 kernel, may you post a link please ? (can't find it).
Thanks.
isotoper said:
If you recommand the stock KG3 kernel, may you post a link please ? (can't find it).
Thanks.
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Its in the stock KG3 firmware .
Download Extract Zimage flash via Odin or CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
note many many users confuse kernel with firmware its not the firmware only part of it . the bit that interfaces at the lowest operating level machine code as it where .
jje
isotoper said:
Ninphetamine is VERY fast, i'm trying to find something fast as it is.
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Nothing against you or the developer but its 100% placebo effect, The S2 is extremely fast that I doubt even kernel changes would matter or even slightly affect speeds, sure you get over 9000pts in quadrant but no real world increase, w/o the voltage controls you cant tell the custom kernel from the stock kernels apart.. Unlike during the S1 days.
isotoper said:
Ninphetamine is VERY fast, i'm trying to find something fast as it is.
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Can you tell me one app or game that runs slow with the stock ROM and kernel? This is a very fast phone anyway. It runs everything very fast right out of the box. No need to go playing with voltages and clock speeds and risking bricking the phone.
These alternative kernels are just for -my quadrant score is bigger than yours- type of users and have no real life improvement over stock.
When I moved from an old stock kernel to Ninphetamine-2.0.2 I saw a big difference with the application invocation speed. Even clicking the keyboard was very smooth and without any delay unlike the old stock one.
Maybe it's because the stock kernel version was older I'm not sure , but this is real.
Try this.
JJEgan said:
Its in the stock KG3 firmware .
Download Extract Zimage flash via Odin or CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
note many many users confuse kernel with firmware its not the firmware only part of it . the bit that interfaces at the lowest operating level machine code as it where .
jje
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Sorry for the noby question, but the stock KG3 kernel will remove the cwm recovery i got right ? so, if I want it back I will need to flash a custom kernel again ?
Well, just flashed SpeedMod.
Extremely slower than Ninphetamine
isotoper said:
Sorry for the noby question, but the stock KG3 kernel will remove the cwm recovery i got right ? so, if I want it back I will need to flash a custom kernel again ?
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Yes flash KG3 root and cwm .
jje

[Q] X10 Overclock question

I know that the overclocking possible is pretty low (I've heard 1.1Ghz is really all it can manage).
But i'd still like to try. I'm running a custom ROM currently and know it involves flashing the kernel.
Does that require a wipe or anything? And are all kernels compatible with custom ROMs? Thanks to anyone to answers..
The only kernel with 1.2Ghz overclock is doomkernel. I used it before at 1.2Ghz and no problems came up as I only use it when I'm playing heavy games.
All kernels should be compatible to all custom ROMs, except for FXP CM7 which requires it's own custom kernel or DoomKernel FXP-CM7 and requires an unlocked bootloader.
The same goes for Luke's MIUI ROM(and all that's based on it), it requires Luke's custom kernel, or DoomKernel for Luke's MIUI.
Other than that, they should work good with any custom kernels/ROMs. And no, installing a custom won't wipe anything. But it is recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache after installing a custom kernel.
i think the x10_029e_Th Kernel also has 1228mhz overclocking. But yes i heard somewhere the safe value is around 1.1Ghz.
Okay thanks. I have another question:
I've looked, and a lot of people recommend the TEAM ROM. But there's also the Th ROM.
I was thinking of changing off the MIUI one I'm on now. Which of those two would be best? I'm looking for performance
dragonx254 said:
Okay thanks. I have another question:
I've looked, and a lot of people recommend the TEAM ROM. But there's also the Th ROM.
I was thinking of changing off the MIUI one I'm on now. Which of those two would be best? I'm looking for performance
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I am running the ThGO2 v7.5 ROM atm, i find it extremely smooth. TEAM is pretty good as well, how about you try out both of them and be the judge of it yourself as i don't find much difference in the roms unless there is major lag or something.
Well I'd love to try both, but I hate having to wipe all my data and stuff all over again.
What's the differences really? Just in a nutshell.
dragonx254 said:
Well I'd love to try both, but I hate having to wipe all my data and stuff all over again.
What's the differences really? Just in a nutshell.
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I think just basically the visual features are different. The performance as i said i don't notice much difference but TEAM does offers their app "Appman" which basically shows you all updates for their roms etc and different roms include different apps which i can't remember specifically which apps are included in which rom. So just try them out, i don't think you would be disappointed with any.
Okay. I was reading the Th one, said you have to backup APN? Is that data?
And I also saw three different builds for that one (stock, CM, and some other one). What are the differences there? CM has "Super speed" next to it, is that a faster ROM?

Help ROM Question

I am looking for a ROM that allows overclocking.. currently I just tried Suprarom as it's AOSP with HTC Sense so still very similar to what I am use to without a whole new learning curve. But I hate it when developers developing these ROMS don't unlock them completely Set CPU does not work.. I can not overclock so I need to know what would be the best ROM for me that allows overclocking but not too much of a new learning curve and 3D and that still works.
molitar said:
I am looking for a ROM that allows overclocking.. currently I just tried Suprarom as it's AOSP with HTC Sense so still very similar to what I am use to without a whole new learning curve. But I hate it when developers developing these ROMS don't unlock them completely Set CPU does not work.. I can not overclock so I need to know what would be the best ROM for me that allows overclocking but not too much of a new learning curve and 3D and that still works.
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Overclocking does not require you to flash a different ROM. Just flash a overclockable kernel on your current ROM and you will be fine.
NOTE: Not all kernels work on every ROM.
mnomaanw said:
Overclocking does not require you to flash a different ROM. Just flash a overclockable kernel on your current ROM and you will be fine.
NOTE: Not all kernels work on every ROM.
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ok thanks.. so guessing that Anthrax v2 that appears stickied is the one to flash than.
molitar said:
ok thanks.. so guessing that Anthrax v2 that appears stickied is the one to flash than.
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I do not guarantee this will work on your current ROM or not.
If anything goes wrong like you are stuck on htc screen/broken wifi/4g etc reflash th kernel that came with your rom. Also if you are on hboot 1.50 you will need flash image GUI to change kernel or use fastboot method. I dont know whether these can be overclocked or not. Check their description. What is your current rom based on?
2.08.651.2/.3 or 2.17.651.5 ?vCheck whether those kernels are made for your current version.
Hope this helps.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427963
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224659
Search here there might be kernels in some folders
http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/EVO_3D_Developers/

benifits of custom roms ?

quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
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custom rom do come with there own pro's and con's u have to check the changelog of that rom to see whats different in it also some apps which do require root previlage wrks fine with custom roms rather than stock one's
stock roms do have better batt life compared 2 custom ones at the cost of customization with there dull and boring looks
thanks for your reply i guess its just finding the correct balance between customization and battery life then. cheers
go with custom
I had the exact same thoughts when i first decided to flash a custom rom.
Personally i would now flash a custom rom at the drop of a hat, however as the previous comment said there are pros and cons.
do some research on roms with functionality that you require and you'll find one you want to flash no doubt.
hope i helped
i am now running CM9 and its so smooth and looks amazing, a millions times better than stock in almost every way!
Check out the ROM and the comments which people have wrote. Some of them may be good and others may be bad.. you'll be able to work out the missing features of the custom rom bother you or not ^__^ That's how I work out whether to install the ROM XD Most ICS ROM's have their benefits and cons, Gingerbread would be considered the most stable Hope this helps you
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
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Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
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cheers guys i guess custom seems the way forward, just need to research the changelog of each rom that takes my fancy
thanks again guys !!
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?
To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?
Thanks!
fgoyti said:
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?
To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?
Thanks!
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with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u
and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it
Sun90 said:
with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u
and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it
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But there's already no brick bug on 4.0.3 right? So... what exactly would I gain with the Siyah kernel?
The only thing I can think of is CPU/kernel modding
kilometers4 said:
Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
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I am doing same on stock
Peace
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Sent from S II Running Official ICS 4.0.4 with Siyah 4.1 [/size]
One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
Obagleyfreer said:
One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
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It's the ROM, not the kernel, that determines if MHL fully works.
Apparently video works with AOSP, but not full mirror of the display.
However, if you want full mirroring, you'll need to be on a stock Samsung based ROM.
That said, you can still run a custom kernel, such as Siyah or SpeedMod, and MHL will still work as long as you remain on the Samsung based ROM.
I'm currently running stock XWLPX with Siyah 4.1.4, and MHL works fully for me.

[Q] Quick question regarding Kernels

Hi, I've just a quick question regarding kernels (in general)
I'm currently running a JB ROM by TheBill, and it's running great. However, coming from my previous phone with a custom rom, I see there aren't many governers available. I would think that a custom kernel would do the trick, but would they work regardless of rom/OS version? Most of the ones I see seem to be for Gingerbread/Froyo, and I'm with Jelly Bean.
I didn't try this so I am not sure, but I think that kernels have their compatibilities with rom. So whatever kernel you are going to flash just read the kernel's details. Then you'll know what roms (cm7,cm9,cm10etc.) it will support. And I hope that you know kernels are phone specific.
Atrix 4G, CM7 based TopSmarts 1.3 rom, Faux123 1ghz kernel.
If I m helpful dont hesitate to thank me.
Don't try to mix and match kernels unless you know what you're doing. It will probably not work as expected, very likely not at all.
There's probably a reason for the lack of governors in some kernels, don't you think?
sumit77seo said:
I didn't try this so I am not sure, but I think that kernels have their compatibilities with rom. So whatever kernel you are going to flash just read the kernel's details. Then you'll know what roms (cm7,cm9,cm10etc.) it will support. And I hope that you know kernels are phone specific.
Atrix 4G, CM7 based TopSmarts 1.3 rom, Faux123 1ghz kernel.
If I m helpful dont hesitate to thank me.
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Well I'm running CM10 and it seems like most of the kernels haven't been developed specifically for 4.1, which is why I brought up the question.
ravilov said:
Don't try to mix and match kernels unless you know what you're doing. It will probably not work as expected, very likely not at all.
There's probably a reason for the lack of governors in some kernels, don't you think?
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Well, I was wondering if I could get a bit of a power boost with a kernel supporting overclocking, but if I do try and install a kernel that doesn't work out, a Nandroid backup should restore my previous kernel as well?
DillonBladez said:
Well I'm running CM10 and it seems like most of the kernels haven't been developed specifically for 4.1, which is why I brought up the question.
Well, I was wondering if I could get a bit of a power boost with a kernel supporting overclocking, but if I do try and install a kernel that doesn't work out, a Nandroid backup should restore my previous kernel as well?
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Yes, Nandroid backup will restore your kernel.
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