I know that the overclocking possible is pretty low (I've heard 1.1Ghz is really all it can manage).
But i'd still like to try. I'm running a custom ROM currently and know it involves flashing the kernel.
Does that require a wipe or anything? And are all kernels compatible with custom ROMs? Thanks to anyone to answers..
The only kernel with 1.2Ghz overclock is doomkernel. I used it before at 1.2Ghz and no problems came up as I only use it when I'm playing heavy games.
All kernels should be compatible to all custom ROMs, except for FXP CM7 which requires it's own custom kernel or DoomKernel FXP-CM7 and requires an unlocked bootloader.
The same goes for Luke's MIUI ROM(and all that's based on it), it requires Luke's custom kernel, or DoomKernel for Luke's MIUI.
Other than that, they should work good with any custom kernels/ROMs. And no, installing a custom won't wipe anything. But it is recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache after installing a custom kernel.
i think the x10_029e_Th Kernel also has 1228mhz overclocking. But yes i heard somewhere the safe value is around 1.1Ghz.
Okay thanks. I have another question:
I've looked, and a lot of people recommend the TEAM ROM. But there's also the Th ROM.
I was thinking of changing off the MIUI one I'm on now. Which of those two would be best? I'm looking for performance
dragonx254 said:
Okay thanks. I have another question:
I've looked, and a lot of people recommend the TEAM ROM. But there's also the Th ROM.
I was thinking of changing off the MIUI one I'm on now. Which of those two would be best? I'm looking for performance
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I am running the ThGO2 v7.5 ROM atm, i find it extremely smooth. TEAM is pretty good as well, how about you try out both of them and be the judge of it yourself as i don't find much difference in the roms unless there is major lag or something.
Well I'd love to try both, but I hate having to wipe all my data and stuff all over again.
What's the differences really? Just in a nutshell.
dragonx254 said:
Well I'd love to try both, but I hate having to wipe all my data and stuff all over again.
What's the differences really? Just in a nutshell.
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I think just basically the visual features are different. The performance as i said i don't notice much difference but TEAM does offers their app "Appman" which basically shows you all updates for their roms etc and different roms include different apps which i can't remember specifically which apps are included in which rom. So just try them out, i don't think you would be disappointed with any.
Okay. I was reading the Th one, said you have to backup APN? Is that data?
And I also saw three different builds for that one (stock, CM, and some other one). What are the differences there? CM has "Super speed" next to it, is that a faster ROM?
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I'm finally jumping off the deep end into the world of flashing my Photon for the first time!
1. Which ROM do you recommend and why?
2. Does unlocking the bootloader still kill 4G?
3. Does the CM Recovery have to be manually installed or can the ROM Manager from the Android Market be used?
4. Common problems/issues to be expected?
sjamie said:
I'm finally jumping off the deep end into the world of flashing my Photon for the first time!
1. Which ROM do you recommend and why?
2. Does unlocking the bootloader still kill 4G?
3. Does the CM Recovery have to be manually installed or can the ROM Manager from the Android Market be used?
4. Common problems/issues to be expected?
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1. I've tried both Homebase and Alien and they are both good. Homebase has Shabby's kernal, so it will run a little faster and battery life wont be as good as with Alien.
2. Yes
3. ROM manager is still not supporting the Photon, check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250697 for step by step instructions on how to do all the flashing and unlocking. These videos helped me out a lot.
4. No problems what so ever, but i'm only speaking for myself.
Enjoy!
R2DeeTard said:
1. I've tried both Homebase and Alien and they are both good. Homebase has Shabby's kernal, so it will run a little faster and battery life wont be as good as with Alien.
2. Yes
3. ROM manager is still not supporting the Photon, check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250697 for step by step instructions on how to do all the flashing and unlocking. These videos helped me out a lot.
4. No problems what so ever, but i'm only speaking for myself.
Enjoy!
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Thanks for your responses! Once you've flashed a new ROM, I'm assuming you have to flash back to stock to get OTA updates, right?
Which ROM are you currently running?
Which one do you ultimately prefer so far?
What advantages does it give you over running stock?
Does using something like Go Launcher EX on a custom ROM kinda defeat the purpose?
sjamie said:
Thanks for your responses! Once you've flashed a new ROM, I'm assuming you have to flash back to stock to get OTA updates, right?
Which ROM are you currently running?
Which one do you ultimately prefer so far?
What advantages does it give you over running stock?
Does using something like Go Launcher EX on a custom ROM kinda defeat the purpose?
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I'm currently running Alien. I like the vanilla gingerbread theme for it but for what i do i cant really tell that much of a difference between this ROM and Homebase. if you want the overclocked cpu, go with homebase. it uses Launcher Pro as an overlay but i'm assuming you can use whichever launcher you prefer. the specs for each rom are listed on their respective thread pages. some advantages are the custom kernel, wifi scan frequency for battery life, no bloatware. Its not that hard to flash ROMs with CWM once you unlock the bootloader and root, so i suggest flashing both, getting used to them, and then seeing which one you like best. i will probably go back to homebase because i like the OC kernel and they have an update that reflects the current software OTA.
R2DeeTard said:
I'm currently running Alien. I like the vanilla gingerbread theme for it but for what i do i cant really tell that much of a difference between this ROM and Homebase. if you want the overclocked cpu, go with homebase. it uses Launcher Pro as an overlay but i'm assuming you can use whichever launcher you prefer. the specs for each rom are listed on their respective thread pages. some advantages are the custom kernel, wifi scan frequency for battery life, no bloatware. Its not that hard to flash ROMs with CWM once you unlock the bootloader and root, so i suggest flashing both, getting used to them, and then seeing which one you like best. i will probably go back to homebase because i like the OC kernel and they have an update that reflects the current software OTA.
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Can you see a noticeable speed increase in with the OC kernel?
Does the battery gain from the wifi scan frequency balance out the battery drain from the OC kernel?
Any problems at all with the Homebase ROM other than losing 4G?
.1 Ghz isn't that big of a difference IMO plus the launcher the ROM uses is pretty fast to begin whith. you may lose probably half an hour of battery life from OCing. its a very good ROM and i havent had any problems with it.
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
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custom rom do come with there own pro's and con's u have to check the changelog of that rom to see whats different in it also some apps which do require root previlage wrks fine with custom roms rather than stock one's
stock roms do have better batt life compared 2 custom ones at the cost of customization with there dull and boring looks
thanks for your reply i guess its just finding the correct balance between customization and battery life then. cheers
go with custom
I had the exact same thoughts when i first decided to flash a custom rom.
Personally i would now flash a custom rom at the drop of a hat, however as the previous comment said there are pros and cons.
do some research on roms with functionality that you require and you'll find one you want to flash no doubt.
hope i helped
i am now running CM9 and its so smooth and looks amazing, a millions times better than stock in almost every way!
Check out the ROM and the comments which people have wrote. Some of them may be good and others may be bad.. you'll be able to work out the missing features of the custom rom bother you or not ^__^ That's how I work out whether to install the ROM XD Most ICS ROM's have their benefits and cons, Gingerbread would be considered the most stable Hope this helps you
jonnyhall1bmx1 said:
quick question,
basically what are the benifits of custom roms compared to stock kies roms ?
i currently have rr 2.2 rom but appart from the looks and animations etc.. is there a difference in performance/ battery compared to stock?
its been a while sinse i have been on stock so i cant remember what it was like and i just wanted to know are custom roms more better in terms or speed/battery/power etc..
thanks
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Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
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cheers guys i guess custom seems the way forward, just need to research the changelog of each rom that takes my fancy
thanks again guys !!
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?
To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?
Thanks!
fgoyti said:
What about if I install a custom kernel, but keep my stock rom? Is there any benefit at all?
To clarify: I'm on i19100 4.0.3 which I've recently rooted. Thinking of installing Siyah 3.5.2 but for now I want to keep my stock (Bell) ROM. What do I stand to gain when I get the Siyah kernel, if anything? Or is the kernel really *only* just a prerequisite to get a custom ROM?
Thanks!
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with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u
and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it
Sun90 said:
with siyah 3.5.2 installed u can be sure that no brick bug for u
and u can flash any custom ICS or JB rom with it
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But there's already no brick bug on 4.0.3 right? So... what exactly would I gain with the Siyah kernel?
The only thing I can think of is CPU/kernel modding
kilometers4 said:
Highly customizable. You can overclock, undervolt, theme, use different launchers. To me they're faster too.
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I am doing same on stock
Peace
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One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
Obagleyfreer said:
One BIG reason I'm on stock ROM and KERNEL is that currently no custom Kernel supports MHL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
For me this is a big problem as I'm always watching movies and playing games on my TV with my phone
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It's the ROM, not the kernel, that determines if MHL fully works.
Apparently video works with AOSP, but not full mirror of the display.
However, if you want full mirroring, you'll need to be on a stock Samsung based ROM.
That said, you can still run a custom kernel, such as Siyah or SpeedMod, and MHL will still work as long as you remain on the Samsung based ROM.
I'm currently running stock XWLPX with Siyah 4.1.4, and MHL works fully for me.
Hi, I've just a quick question regarding kernels (in general)
I'm currently running a JB ROM by TheBill, and it's running great. However, coming from my previous phone with a custom rom, I see there aren't many governers available. I would think that a custom kernel would do the trick, but would they work regardless of rom/OS version? Most of the ones I see seem to be for Gingerbread/Froyo, and I'm with Jelly Bean.
I didn't try this so I am not sure, but I think that kernels have their compatibilities with rom. So whatever kernel you are going to flash just read the kernel's details. Then you'll know what roms (cm7,cm9,cm10etc.) it will support. And I hope that you know kernels are phone specific.
Atrix 4G, CM7 based TopSmarts 1.3 rom, Faux123 1ghz kernel.
If I m helpful dont hesitate to thank me.
Don't try to mix and match kernels unless you know what you're doing. It will probably not work as expected, very likely not at all.
There's probably a reason for the lack of governors in some kernels, don't you think?
sumit77seo said:
I didn't try this so I am not sure, but I think that kernels have their compatibilities with rom. So whatever kernel you are going to flash just read the kernel's details. Then you'll know what roms (cm7,cm9,cm10etc.) it will support. And I hope that you know kernels are phone specific.
Atrix 4G, CM7 based TopSmarts 1.3 rom, Faux123 1ghz kernel.
If I m helpful dont hesitate to thank me.
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Well I'm running CM10 and it seems like most of the kernels haven't been developed specifically for 4.1, which is why I brought up the question.
ravilov said:
Don't try to mix and match kernels unless you know what you're doing. It will probably not work as expected, very likely not at all.
There's probably a reason for the lack of governors in some kernels, don't you think?
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Well, I was wondering if I could get a bit of a power boost with a kernel supporting overclocking, but if I do try and install a kernel that doesn't work out, a Nandroid backup should restore my previous kernel as well?
DillonBladez said:
Well I'm running CM10 and it seems like most of the kernels haven't been developed specifically for 4.1, which is why I brought up the question.
Well, I was wondering if I could get a bit of a power boost with a kernel supporting overclocking, but if I do try and install a kernel that doesn't work out, a Nandroid backup should restore my previous kernel as well?
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Yes, Nandroid backup will restore your kernel.
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My Rom is Rasbeanjelly
first , i have to say its the most stable rom !
i have Paranoid and Rotbox and a its much better rom (without offense , just my opinion).
sure a less options , but too much options its not always advantage... so thanks for that.
question
I have a question now... i am still new on android area , and the developer wrote after we the ROM i need to flash a Karnel
name Trinty , i have no idea how to do that, where to download that karnel , and what's happened if I just flash the Rom
without the kernal (what I just did), or if I can flash it now without format my all system and do the process again...
thanks a lot guys.
tzur87 said:
My Rom is Rasbeanjelly
first , i have to say its the most stable rom !
i have Paranoid and Rotbox and a its much better rom (without offense , just my opinion).
sure a less options , but too much options its not always advantage... so thanks for that.
question
I have a question now... i am still new on android area , and the developer wrote after we the ROM i need to flash a Karnel
name Trinty , i have no idea how to do that, where to download that karnel , and what's happened if I just flash the Rom
without the kernal (what I just did), or if I can flash it now without format my all system and do the process again...
thanks a lot guys.
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You flash the kernel just like the rom, AFTER you flash the rom. You can find the trinity kernel in the original development area.
You can flash the kernel anytime, you don't have to flash the rom again, just clean cache+dalvik cache after you flash the kernel.
thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A
lvnatic said:
You flash the kernel just like the rom, AFTER you flash the rom. You can find the trinity kernel in the original development area.
You can flash the kernel anytime, you don't have to flash the rom again, just clean cache+dalvik cache after you flash the kernel.
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thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A BUILT KERNEL...
SO WHY I HAVE TO FLASH IT AGAIN?
AND WHAT ABOUT ALL MY APPS AND STUFF? THEY ALL WIPE?
tzur87 said:
thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A BUILT KERNEL...
SO WHY I HAVE TO FLASH IT AGAIN?
AND WHAT ABOUT ALL MY APPS AND STUFF? THEY ALL WIPE?
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Yes, all ROMs come with a kernel. Most of them come with the stock kernel from samsung. Trinity, ktmanta, franco and others are custom kernels, based on those from samsung but with some small modifications for performance and battery life.
I'm not an expert in android coding, not even close, but from what I understood so far kernels are some kind of drivers for the CPU, GPU and the other hardware parts like bluetooth, gps and so on.
Short story: with custom kernels you can overclock the cpu or gpu, adjust the voltages etc.
Trinity kernel is a good choice, flash it and dont chage anything.
Nothing will be wiped.
thanks... but if i dont know how to change my
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
lvnatic said:
Yes, all ROMs come with a kernel. Most of them come with the stock kernel from samsung. Trinity, ktmanta, franco and others are custom kernels, based on those from samsung but with some small modifications for performance and battery life.
I'm not an expert in android coding, not even close, but from what I understood so far kernels are some kind of drivers for the CPU, GPU and the other hardware parts like bluetooth, gps and so on.
Short story: with custom kernels you can overclock the cpu or gpu, adjust the voltages etc.
Trinity kernel is a good choice, flash it and dont chage anything.
Nothing will be wiped.
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tzur87 said:
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
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It really depends on what you want out of your device/ROM. KTManta lets you hand-set a lot of tweaks, but also benchmarks just a smidge slower than other ROMs, for example, while Trinity is fairly fast.
tzur87 said:
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
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Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
I dont know what do you ...
d2mac said:
Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
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I dont know what do you ...
d2mac said:
Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
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No. It's an issue with Android 4.2 from what I understand
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Which kernel had the longest battery life without making any tweaks?
Thanks.
Trinity
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Sensamic said:
Which kernel had the longest battery life without making any tweaks?
Thanks.
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There's a thread in here somewhere about just that. Have a search at it, although there's really no one kernel that's "best"-- they'll all interact with your ROM of choice, so it becomes a kernel/ROM combo to look at. Personally, Carbon's stock kernel does best by me.
@samwheat Oh look, the person who complains about how atrocious his battery life is and how it's all the device's fault is back to try and recommend kernels and ROMs to users.
for a lot of modification, KTManta is your best choice I think.
If I was to install, say, the Liquid Smooth ROM onto my i717 (I have a good amount of experience with flashing ROMs, so that much I know,) specifically, the KitKat version, it lists kernels in the download links. Would these kernels be included with the ROM files themselves, i.e. install at the same time as the ROM, or would I have to flash the kernel separately before flashing the ROM? Thank you VERY much in advance
Reinstalled said:
If I was to install, say, the Liquid Smooth ROM onto my i717 (I have a good amount of experience with flashing ROMs, so that much I know,) specifically, the KitKat version, it lists kernels in the download links. Would these kernels be included with the ROM files themselves, i.e. install at the same time as the ROM, or would I have to flash the kernel separately before flashing the ROM? Thank you VERY much in advance
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The thread should tell you if the kernel is baked into the Rom our not but the stock kernel usually comes with it. I'm pretty sure you're talking about a beefed up kernel tho. You'll just have to read the thread and if you're still not clear about it, ask in that thread to be sure.
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Reinstalled said:
If I was to install, say, the Liquid Smooth ROM onto my i717 (I have a good amount of experience with flashing ROMs, so that much I know,) specifically, the KitKat version, it lists kernels in the download links. Would these kernels be included with the ROM files themselves, i.e. install at the same time as the ROM, or would I have to flash the kernel separately before flashing the ROM? Thank you VERY much in advance
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there is always a kernel included with a rom. most alternate kernels are made and or flashed to combat a side effect or incompatibility with some folks devices. its not that provided kernel doesn't work, just that every device is different and the alternates can sometimes be more compatible.
however, I would suggest you give the original kernel a chance to settle, at least a day if not two. if it just flat out is not working for you, then flash an alternate onto the rom. wipe you caches ( not factory) flash kernel by itself and your good
never want to discount reading here as Gimmeitorilltell suggests. reading educates you and puts you in a better position to help yourself first.
Reinstalled said:
If I was to install, say, the Liquid Smooth ROM onto my i717 (I have a good amount of experience with flashing ROMs, so that much I know,) specifically, the KitKat version, it lists kernels in the download links. Would these kernels be included with the ROM files themselves, i.e. install at the same time as the ROM, or would I have to flash the kernel separately before flashing the ROM? Thank you VERY much in advance
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In general stick with the kernel that comes with a ROM unless you have a reason to change, like stability, overclocking, etc... but you do flash the kernel after the ROM; anytime after the ROM flash really. You don't need a clean flash before kernel switch.
The dev probably did not test his/her ROM with every kernel possible so if you want support your best bet is to be on the kernel included. For the 1st install of a ROM if you are unsure you should definitely use included kernel; as sometimes you just can't predict what changing it will do.
That said there many of us do switch kernels when installing updates, I certainly do. There are not alot of kernels for our phones as only a dedicated few devs continue to support the Note but you have a few choices. All kernels I've seen allow performance/governor control to some degree. If you read through the various ROM threads you'll find that some kernels are preferred by users but for the most part kernels like Uber work well with most ROMs.
P0llution's ROM patch allows you to switch kernels after flashing a ROM (BeanStalk, LiquidSmooth, etc....) and even before 1st boot. It also has patches for various KK problems. It is in the Beanstalk thread 1st post.
Thank you so much for your replies! Installed LS and flashed Uber kernel and running with no issues.
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