NOTE: This is not the usual "what is the best ROM?" thread. This is a collection of personal opinions of gamers like myself to find out what current ROM works best for you and is not based on just a benchmark number. Please include your reason why and any relevant information that you would like to include.
Viper 3D
I am not absolutely sure, but when I experimented with Viper 3D ROM from Team Venom (here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991150 ), when I was reading through the thread, I saw someone said that it is the best ROM in case of gaming performance. Compared with Galaxy S3 than on Evo he had better results in FPS than on S3. So I don't know if this will help you somehow, but you should give it a try.
Can't say for sure either, but I've been trying a couple of Roms. More than the Rom, the Kernel seems to make a difference for Games.
Anyhow, I found to get really good results with the Sensai Rom when I use the Buttered Toast Kernel @1566mhz. You can save your battery and not overclock the GPU as that really didn't ever result in much performance increase.
I believe I had the best experience with the infamous Anthrax Kernel, though it was also draining battery like a hog and wouldn't run quite as stable as the Buttered Toast Kernel does. Either way, I'd say mostly stick to the Rom you like in terms of Featureset and try switching through Kernels, that's what mostly game me the biggest performance gains. (My personal favourite: Buttered Toast)
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I wonder how effective the different ROMs are out there.
After performing S-OFF to my beloved EVO 3D I'm trying out the different cooked ROMs with the different flavors.
Apart from the feelings and "personal tastes" I wanted to have an objective point of view about the performance.
In order to do that, I installed Antutu Benchmark in every ROM I'm trying out and I want to share with you the results.
I didn't performed the same with the Vodafone Stock ROM so I don't have this report.
I know the limitations of this kind of software but I'm not comparing different devices. Just the same EVO 3D with alternative ROMs.
Anyway here is the first result from the ROM MikRunny V1.02
See attached picture or follow this link: http://imahgin.blogspot.com/2012/01/rom-mickrunny-v102-para-evo-3d.html
mahg said:
I wonder how effective the different ROMs are out there.
After performing S-OFF to my beloved EVO 3D I'm trying out the different cooked ROMs with the different flavors.
Apart from the feelings and "personal tastes" I wanted to have an objective point of view about the performance.
In order to do that, I installed Antutu Benchmark in every ROM I'm trying out and I want to share with you the results.
I didn't performed the same with the Vodafone Stock ROM so I don't have this report.
I know the limitations of this kind of software but I'm not comparing different devices. Just the same EVO 3D with alternative ROMs.
Anyway here is the first result from the ROM MikRunny V1.02
See attached picture or follow this link: http://imahgin.blogspot.com/2012/01/rom-mickrunny-v102-para-evo-3d.html
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Honestly, benchmarks mean absolutely nothing. I don't know why people continually ask the question and use benchmarks to judge a phone/ROM. I used to have a Motorola Atrix, very similar to the Photon. The Atrix blew the 3D away in benchmarks and was nowhere near as fast. I have also used ROMs that were smoother than the next and scored lower on benchmarks. On the other hand I have also used ROMs that lagged a ton and scored higher on benchmarks. The only true way to find out which ROM is the fastest is to flash it and check it out. Also, a lot of phones act differently with different ROMs/kernels. My friend also has a 3D and what is fast and stable on my phone isn't always fast and stable on his phone.
Just check them out.
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Well, As I stated, I know the limitations of these tests but I guess that using the same device could have a positive result.
In fact, I find some ROMs faster and smoother than others and I wonder to know 'how much' just to confirm 'my feelelings'.
For example, I found ROM KingCobra3D 1.8.1 a little bit slower than MikRunny although I have some issues with sound in this last one.
Here is the result when benchmarking the KingCobra ROM: http://imahgin.blogspot.com/2012/01/rom-kingcobra3d-181.html
I had results around 6500-7500 (Antutu Benchmarks points ) when i was using MIUI ROM ( forgot the kernel )
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I had results around 6500-7500 (Antutu Benchmarks points ) when i was using MIUI ROM ( forgot the kernel )
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WOW, that's impressive. I'll give it a try.
I tried out Leedroid but I found it unstable. In fact it crashes when performing the Open GL test thus I can't see the overall results.
The best benchmark there is is just using your phone. Watch some videos, play some games, and just browse the web. If it seems fluid, then the phone is doing its job
That's understood.
Still fun.
I got 5517 with leedroid 5.1 and anthrax kernel. Oc to 1.51.
locked & loaded
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The best benchmark there is is just using your phone. Watch some videos, play some games, and just browse the web. If it seems fluid, then the phone is doing its job
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I agree with you. In fact that's what I'm doing. Every ROM that I install I perform a full testing specially video playing.
For example I found MikRunny ROM faster than others but the FM radio doesn't work so it's not suitable for me. I wonder how other users customize their EVO 3D and apply tricks to improve the phone.
This is not a competition, simply for fun.
Here's my ROM with chad's v9 kernel at 1.53 GHz
This is another review. Now I'm testing LeeDrOiD V5.1.0.
The prevoious version was very unstable for me -maybe because I didn't wipe the cache - but now it seems to work fine.
Attached you will see the result
Here's SteelH's rom [email protected] 1.51 with chads kernel
Locked & Loaded
""shooter on Deck""
dont have a screen... but virus' 1.4 ODEXED with ziggy's latest kernel....
7500 in antutu... 4200 in quadrant... 17 seconds on RL bench...
that was on lag free governor at 1.72 ghz... ran it like that as a daily for a solid month.
To the people who always inevitably chime in that benchmarks are worthless: benchmark apps are a reference tool, and are rather useful for many aspects of testing out roms and kernels. Obviously their real world value is different. I'm sorry, it may just be me, but its sort of insulting to peoples intelligence for someone to always point out the obvious about the reality of benchmarks. They are however very use full and fun and very important as reference tools.
I bench everything, come on I'm a geek, like I wouldn't dyno my Ferrari if I owned one...
shesh, some people are no fun
anyway, I'm running ics now so I never used anutu on my previous setups, but my fastest was 4007 quadrant on joelz cm7 with one of the anthrax kernels, and 4000 on Airborne 2.3.4 with ziggys kernel.
oh ya both on lag free at 1.72
Hey guys
This question is mainly aimed at gaming freaks who have also switched to custom roms.
Just wanna know how is the gaming performance (generally 3d games) on various roms like Resurrection remix, ics slim ,cm9, miui etc..
I saw in various threads that many 3d games lag more on such roms (at stock cpu/gpu settings)? Is it true? Coz if it is, then this is totally a deal buster for me..i was excited to flash RR but if games are lagging...there wont be any use of improved system performance lol on a custom rom
anyway guys do let me know the gaming problems with any of the popular roms..so i can make up my mind and finally flash a custom rom..
thanks
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Hey guys
This question is mainly aimed at gaming freaks who have also switched to custom roms.
Just wanna know how is the gaming performance (generally 3d games) on various roms like Resurrection remix, ics slim ,cm9, miui etc..
I saw in various threads that many 3d games lag more on such roms (at stock cpu/gpu settings)? Is it true? Coz if it is, then this is totally a deal buster for me..i was excited to flash RR but if games are lagging...there wont be any use of improved system performance lol on a custom rom
anyway guys do let me know the gaming problems with any of the popular roms..so i can make up my mind and finally flash a custom rom..
thanks
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i am on latest version of ressurection remix and i fell no such problem.i use no tweaking like overclocking etc...{i hate all these things}}
Cm9/aokp I get the best graphics performance. I actually under clock my CPU for a longer battery life... and its just still as good if not better than stock.
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Games like Dead trigger, NOVA 3, shadowgun, Modern Combat 3 - lots of framerate issues on ICS custom rom. I never had issues on GB and never stayed on samsung ICS long enough to find out what that was like. Mundane tasks showed that it sucked balls, so I seriously doubt that it would be any different with intensive tasks like gaming.
I'd venture a guess that CM9 kernel is probably better than the majority of ICS kernels. My experience is that it just works alot better in general - other kernels have a lot of bells and wistles but other than some cool novelty feature, really aren't very different from each other. CM9's kernel really stands out for me. I have however heard good things about Fluxi kernel. I made the switch but it was much worse unfortunately others may have a different experience though.
The lag spikes seem to be random aswell, so I have my doubts any overclocking would help. If it happened in sequences with big open fields and lots of enemies on screen I'd understand, but when you are in a small corrider with no-one around, I can't think of why it should do it then. Not to mention it was seemless on stock GB (actually Villian ROM 3.0 and Redpill kernel).
But I've got CM9 running exactly how I want it and its stock CM9 kernel is actually pretty good, the games are good to play on it, but you do get annoying lag spikes somewhat frequently.
Hey,right now I have the latest Wanamlite rom (v5.8) and the latest Syah kernel.I think the Galaxy S3 is an exceptional phone with stock rom/kernel but it shoul be even better with custom roms and kernels wich have tweaks to improve the bad things found on stock.Right now I fell that the phone is not so good how it should be. It is so smooth but it have lags when launching apps or even Contacts,Messages or DialPad.Also, some games that were working fine on older phones are lagging and stuttering on the S3.What's the cause and how I can fix this ?
A good combo of rom/kernel for performance ? Please don't tell me that I should test and see which one suites me best. I want some opinions. Im going for performance>appearence.
Please test them out for yourself
This will be viewed as a best Rom thread, and because everyone's usage is different the only way of finding out what suits you is to try them out
Thread closed as its a best ROM thread.
Hey, I have my Galaxy note 2 on stock rom, 4.1.2. Odexed
I was wondering which is the best kernel that supports swaping external memory on internal
I really need your help, i dont know which kernel I should choose, I was going to try redpill kernel but people are saying that it has battery draining problems
Please help me, I baby my note 2 and I would rather die than seeing my note 2 having issues, and thats why I dont flash custom roms
Or, if there is a way to swap external mem on internal with some kind of app or OTHER WAY THAN A KERNEL
Thanks
You can use search button for that script. And you have to use kernel with init.d support.
perseus has best battery life with good performance, high costumisation by stweaks. agni best performance set by trickster mod problem is i can't set over the gpu... neak is good but i think it,s not so smooth. that was a shot review of some kernel. my choice at the time is agni
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Perseus really does have the best battery drain.
But it lags in games.
Redpill has the best audio engine. Scoobydoo
Some members like. Neak more. Wolfson
Adam is currently going into the right way... You could. Try adam... Seems to. Ne. Very good.
Every custom kernel supports init.d.
Just flash the mod exsd2internalsd..... And you're good to go
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Stock is the best kernel, if you care about performance. Period.
But you'll realize that after using a fluid ROM like ARHD, with stock ROM performance of all kernels felt same to me. Still if I had to choose one I'd go for N.E.A.K, as it is pretty straightforward with nifty features, just if it had the exFAT support!
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Stock is the best kernel, if you care about performance. Period.
But you'll realize that after using a fluid ROM like ARHD, with stock ROM performance of all kernels felt same to me. Still if I had to choose one I'd go for N.E.A.K, as it is pretty straightforward with nifty features, just if it had the exFAT support!
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I don't know on what basis you're making this claim, but anyways it's been the exact opposite for me - Redpill, Perseus, Devil all have great fluidity (had to mess about with the settings of Perseus a bit to eliminate the initial lag - but with no other) - and I haven't tried OC/UV much. Not to mention the headphone/speaker amp and saturation prevention options, screen calibration etc. which you miss out on stock.
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I don't know on what basis you're making this claim, but anyways it's been the exact opposite for me - Redpill, Perseus, Devil all have great fluidity (had to mess about with the settings of Perseus a bit to eliminate the initial lag - but with no other) - and I haven't tried OC/UV much. Not to mention the headphone/speaker amp and saturation prevention options, screen calibration etc. which you miss out on stock.
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The basis was my own testing with Perseus, Red Pill and even Adam, for a pretty long time. Not a single one was as fast and fluid as stock, even with the modified settings of stock kernel found here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41902544&postcount=4602
Oh, and as I said, if you are on stock ROM you won't notice anything, that's why I used Perseus as long as I was on stock ROM, but since I moved to ARHD, there was no other option other than stock.
Yes, I agree there are some advantages of custom kernels, like saturation prevention as you said, but no way I was giving up very noticeable performance degradation for some extra features without which I am not bothered at all. And since I installed Viper there are some amplifications, so that point is unchecked from custom kernels advantage list.
PS: If you have no problem could you send me your settings of whatever kernel you are using? I wanna try once more and see. Please don't bother if that kernel doesn't support exFAT.
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The basis was my own testing with Perseus, Red Pill and even Adam, for a pretty long time. Not a single one was as fast and fluid as stock, even with the modified settings of stock kernel found here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41902544&postcount=4602
Oh, and as I said, if you are on stock ROM you won't notice anything, that's why I used Perseus as long as I was on stock ROM, but since I moved to ARHD, there was no other option other than stock.
Yes, I agree there are some advantages of custom kernels, like saturation prevention as you said, but no way I was giving up very noticeable performance degradation for some extra features without which I am not bothered at all. And since I installed Viper there are some amplifications, so that point is unchecked from custom kernels advantage list.
PS: If you have no problem could you send me your settings of whatever kernel you are using? I wanna try once more and see. Please don't bother if that kernel doesn't support exFAT.
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I never ever stayed stock except for the while I had to send it to service. Otherwise I used redpill (exFAT supported) and I've noticed no difference at all from when I had stock unrooted. What's your issue - are you experiencing lag with custom kernels? Or what?
Fair point regarding Viper (love it and use it always myself), but FLL tuning and DAC resampling options make it sound better at that. IMO.
I stay on Perseus, mainly because of its color calibration and all the Stweaks customization features. Now if I use stock kernel, I feel my screen is completly unrealistic, almost fluorescent lol
As for performances, the Note 2 is just powerful enough not to see any difference between kernels. People using ARHD will always tell you that stock kernel is the best for the following reason: Mike1986 says stock is the best and won't give support if you're using another kernel. Period.
I'm using ARHD, but can't stand the fake colors and the lack of customization provided by stock kernel (no GPU overclock for example, no CPU overclock, nothing you can do if your "whites" are pink or blue, etc)
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As for performances, the Note 2 is just powerful enough not to see any difference between kernels. People using ARHD will always tell you that stock kernel is the best for the following reason: Mike1986 says stock is the best and won't give support if you're using another kernel. Period.
I'm using ARHD, but can't stand the fake colors and the lack of customization provided by stock kernel (no GPU overclock for example, no CPU overclock, nothing you can do if your "whites" are pink or blue, etc)
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What the hell does this suppose to mean? Mike says.....blah blah....I don't care what Mike says! And what support are you talking about? I was on Perseus while I was using A.R.H.D, one can flash any kernel on ARHD, what to support there?
It's my view, and I am quite sure of all the ARHD users too, the stock kernel gives much more fluid and lag free performance than any other kernel available. Everybody likes customization, but as I said not with the price of performance compromise.
And you can OC GPU/CPU with Tegrak on Stock kernel. Get your facts straight before typing some gibberish.
Perfect example of why "best ROM/kernel" threads are not allowed.
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I've used both EliteKernel for stock jb(ARHD8/Insertcoin) as well as for Kitkat(Carbon/PA). I feel that it makes the phone much slower than the kernel that comes with the rom. Battery life very marginally increases. But when I read the comments in the EliteKernel page, everyone gives only positive reviews! Am i doing something wrong here??
I had the same experience, if you want to get maximum of it after flashing a kernel, I guess you should tune it up with some scripts.
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