[Q] Thinking about purchasing a Thunderbolt - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a droid 3 and wanting to get a thunderbolt to get me by, just wanted to know if anyone has ran into issues with the phone? I know there was many before the ICS update but wanted to know if anyone has had any problems with it since the update?

ICS made it much better but I still don't suggest getting one lol. For a little more you could get a rezound or galaxy nexus.
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disconnecktie said:
ICS made it much better but I still don't suggest getting one lol. For a little more you could get a rezound or galaxy nexus.
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I didn't want to be the first one to say it haha.
Like disconnecktie said, If you have the option of getting a newer much better phone then take it. Most of us were suckered into this phone either at release or, in my case, joining Verizon.

Each phone has a trade off. At a time the bolt was about the easiest phone to root till they came out with their boot loader updates. The rezound is the phone I have now and over all is a good phone but at times reminds me of my old bolt plus to get s off you have to short out the phone. But s off isn't needed if you load the boot.IMG via your computer and fastboot. The gnex is good if you like to use custom Roms and so on. Its that true Google experience but radio signal can suck. Seems like a hit or miss for this and heard of screen burn in.
With my having the rezound I would say go for the gnex as you will have better access to updates via the gsm version. I wouldn't get the bolt as its old and being the first 4g phone it has issues and the ril is just crap and what kept this phone from being much better on the Dev side.could look at a s3 as those prices are coming down slowly with newer phones coming out. So if you like flashing custom Roms and so on then the gnex is for you. If you want a good all around phone the rezound is for you. I suggest if you can find them play with them first and see which fits you better.
My wife had the d3 and in two weeks got her a d4.
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I've had my bolt now for two years. At first it was pretty cool. ICS did make it more stable but we had to wait forever to get it. It is easy to root from the last time I had to root it and I was able to get EXT4 recovery on it (Best recovery in my opinion). There are TON of custom roms out there from GB all the way up to the latest ICS. It's a good phone but I'm getting rid of mine and going over to the GS4 if only because I like new and shiney things and because my Tbolt how has a crack from the lower left to upper right of my screen and the far right side of my screen doesn't react to touch any more.
If you want a phone that's easy to root, recovery and flash on, the Bolt's pretty good. But if you want a really good phone stock, go with the newer ones like the DNA, HTC One, or the SGS4

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Fellow photon users need an honest opinion....please

So im currently useing the phonton... an i love it, but the truth is im bored with it. I appreaciate all the work the devs do out there an by nomeans am i tryin to rush them. Im 2 days away from my 30 day return window an im gettin antsy an kinda thinkin of swappin for a nexus.... whata you guys think. Should i suck it up an wait for the photon to become a beast or swap for the nexus an flash away.... honest opinions would be great an appreaciated. Thanks
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I wouldn't recommend exchanging it the nexus has a single core no sd card less and slower ram no international capabilities not as hi res screen just to list a couple of reasonto stay
I own a Nexus S too. And I'd say that it's a better device overall even with its single core. What keeps me away from it is exactly your reason of moving away from your Photon - boredom. Have had it for over 6 months. It's old generation hardware already. Wouldn't you rather wait for the Nexus Prime?
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If you trade in at least swap for a newer device that is closer in specs. Have you considered the EVO 3D or Epic Touch 4G? You could easily swap for another 30 days and then again if you wanted the Photon back or another phone. This would give you a month or so to play around.
It boil down to what you want
if your a flash o holic and want to really go to town...why not get a used unlocked GSM development phone put in a prepay sim as a 2nt phone
I would go with the evo 3d if anything. The nexus has been plagued with radio issues. Or just get your upgrade back and wait it out. I used to be a flash a holic as well but I have slowed down a bunch over the years and find myself sticking to roms that are snappy and well build like cm7 or synergy.
Do what you like, I personally would have probably stayed with the evo 3d if the reception and call quality wasn't so poor. No point in a super phone if I roam all the time and drop calls.
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Thanks for the opinions. Im stayin with the photon. Biggest reason ill be stayin is no sd card on the nexus. Thanks guys
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IMO, I would stay away from Samsung. My last Samsung phone was total crap.
I tend to prefer HTC and LG phones. In my past and more recently, HTC and LG have had great support for their phones when I contacted the corporate office.
I am loving my photon and I loved my Motorola flip phone back in the old days (the one with one line display that was red and the phone was very bulky).
I am also not the type of person to root my phone. I place more importance on a working reliable phone then my ability to root and flash new roms. From my understanding, Samsung allows rooting and custom roms more so then Motorola does. I also do not root because I do not want to void my warranty ... I'm too busy with work and school to try and resuscitate my bricked phone. I also do not have $600 laying around to replace my photon if it's dead. I'm happy with changing my wallpaper when I'm in the mood. Also, the photon is the best android phone I've had (had the HTC Eris, craptacular Samsung moment, HTC evo shift, and now the Motorola photon).
Having said all that, I find the photon meets my needs but you will have to figure out what is more important to you.
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I am a flashaholic as well but my main reasons for flashing were to find optimal battery life, and an overall snappy phone. Once I installed decks rom on my EVO I never flashes another rom. The photon has everything I was trying to achieve in the EVO....so I've really had no urge to flash but I know once we get some good roms going, we will be flashaholics again...lol
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same here. i found myself flashin daily to try everything on my evo. reason i did it is bc i wanted a fast and amazing phone. with the flashing, i got tired of always building up the phone again and such. i told myself that the next phone ill get, ill just root it and stick with stock other then maybe the kernel.
been using the mopho and havent had the urge to flash yet. sure undervolting would be nice, but i used setcpu the other day and had the screen off setting at 216/312 and when it was too low to keep pandora from not skippin when screen off. so i dont think id need any more under volting.
i use just juice defender and i get about 16 hours of medium/heavy use till she beeps at me (phone calls, lots of texting, and web browser)
i think this phone has excellent audio and sound. and i havent had the mute phone calls other then day 1. on performance mode and latest updates work well for me. I normally reboot my phone after 3 to 4 days just bc electronics tend to like it. did the same with my evo.
honestly, i dont see any other phone out there that could offer more. a world wide phone like this one. use a phone for what its built for, to stay connected to the world.
if you have the urge to flash, id buy one seperate just for the heck of it to flash and pimp out. im super happy with the mopho so far. love having the best signal around the office compared to everyone else.
Ditto to lroy's statement above.
eoliveira711 said:
.... whata you guys think. Should i suck it up an wait for the photon to become a beast or swap for the nexus an flash away.... honest opinions would be great an appreaciated..
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Wait for the Photon to become a beast? Really? How? It is what it is and will be. As for the Nexus, why would you take a step backwards? Just because you can? There is the Samsung Epic 4G Touch coming out in two weeks. You could take the Photon back, use an old phone for 2 weeks and get the Sammy. Then after a couple of weeks you can take that back and get the iPhone5.
If you are looking for enough people to say "yea do it" go ahead.
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Wait for the Photon to become a beast? Really? How? It is what it is and will be. As for the Nexus, why would you take a step backwards? Just because you can? There is the Samsung Epic 4G Touch coming out in two weeks. You could take the Photon back, use an old phone for 2 weeks and get the Sammy. Then after a couple of weeks you can take that back and get the iPhone5.
If you are looking for enough people to say "yea do it" go ahead.
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Had the epic 4g an no lie smashed it. Hate samsung. An the photon will become a beast, between dedicated devs an the fact google bought motorola. I love the phone its sexyyyy, an comin from an evo runnin cm7 oc, undervolted themed an sooo on i think im just havein flash withdrawls. I will be keepin the photon an as we speak im gettin a second line with a nexus just to hold me over lolol
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im coming from teh nexus, its one of teh better devices out there... HOWEVER with the new nexus due out shortly and the et4g this month there is no reason to get it. if your not happy with the photon now your not going to be.

sooo...verizon contradicts itself?

don't flame me, I wanted to make sure I am making the right decision when dropping 650 on a phone.
I got the Gnex. Switched my dead pixeled rezound in for it. I have 30 days to try it out and switch back if it is ****ty. I am not here to start that argument, I am here to ask;
Why must the Rezound bootloader be heavily locked to "protect the network" but the GNex bootloader is so easily unlocked? It slipped my mind how easy it is to unlock the Nexus line... cmd: fastboot oem unlock. bootloader unlocked.
WHAT?! I actually expected the VZN GNex to have some crazy ass bootloader that would be hard to crack like the rezound. Instead it is like every other Nexus phone to unlock. One Command Line entry.
Anyone else not get Verizon's logic? I think if we hound them about the bootloader on this phone, this point should be brought up. How can this phone make the exception, but every other phone cannot?
Also, for those wondering, I love the GNex, but unless they fix the radio, that drops 4G more than a slicked up man holding a slicked up pig, I am dumping this for the rezound no matter the fact it has an unlocked bootloader.
I agreee. We need to hammer them on facebook and via email.
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don't flame me, I wanted to make sure I am making the right decision when dropping 650 on a phone.
I got the Gnex. Switched my dead pixeled rezound in for it. I have 30 days to try it out and switch back if it is ****ty. I am not here to start that argument, I am here to ask;
Why must the Rezound bootloader be heavily locked to "protect the network" but the GNex bootloader is so easily unlocked? It slipped my mind how easy it is to unlock the Nexus line... cmd: fastboot oem unlock. bootloader unlocked.
WHAT?! I actually expected the VZN GNex to have some crazy ass bootloader that would be hard to crack like the rezound. Instead it is like every other Nexus phone to unlock. One Command Line entry.
Anyone else not get Verizon's logic? I think if we hound them about the bootloader on this phone, this point should be brought up. How can this phone make the exception, but every other phone cannot?
Also, for those wondering, I love the GNex, but unless they fix the radio, that drops 4G more than a slicked up man holding a slicked up pig, I am dumping this for the rezound no matter the fact it has an unlocked bootloader.
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Welcome to Samsung. You didn't swap out the Rezound for having a dead pixel?
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Welcome to Samsung. You didn't swap out the Rezound for having a dead pixel?
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kinda besides the point, but no, only had the rezound for 6 days. Knew the nexus was coming out, and wanted to give it a chance. Had 1 dead pixel, ignored it forr the 6 days.
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kinda besides the point, but no, only had the rezound for 6 days. Knew the nexus was coming out, and wanted to give it a chance. Had 1 dead pixel, ignored it forr the 6 days.
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I see. But Sammy phones are infamous for craptacular radios, apparently the Nexus isn't an exception. A lot of people that have it are saying "Great software on sub-mid to mid range hardware.". Hope it works out for you, or you figure out what to do. Best of luck.
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I see. But Sammy phones are infamous for craptacular radios, apparently the Nexus isn't an exception. A lot of people that have it are saying "Great software on sub-mid to mid range hardware.". Hope it works out for you, or you figure out what to do. Best of luck.
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Thanks. I probably will come back to the rezound, in the end. I just didn't want to commit, like I did with the bionic, go past my 30 days, to come to find I regret my choice 100%. Atleast this way, if I go to the rezound, I won't be sitting here thinking the GNex is better.
I do love ICS though.
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Thanks. I probably will come back to the rezound, in the end. I just didn't want to commit, like I did with the bionic, go past my 30 days, to come to find I regret my choice 100%. Atleast this way, if I go to the rezound, I won't be sitting here thinking the GNex is better.
I do love ICS though.
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I mean had I had hopes for the Nexus as well but I personally cannot get over a few things on it. #1)It's Samsung (bad radios/cheap build) #2) They didn't go w/ the exynos/mali combo imo then the Nexus would have equal horsepower as the Rezound does. #3.)The pentile submatrix does bother me a lot. I played with my friends Nexus today and the whites are like a plaque/linen yellow. The screen has a blue tinge, but I already know this, as it is to preserve the life of the blue pixel since those tend to die out first. 4.) No SD slot especially since I just bought one of those new microSDXC w/ transfer speeds up to 35MB/s. Other than that the Nexus is an okay device, nothing spectacular about it except for ICS.
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I mean had I had hopes for the Nexus as well but I personally cannot get over a few things on it. #1)It's Samsung (bad radios/cheap build) #2) They didn't go w/ the exynos/mali combo imo then the Nexus would have equal horsepower as the Rezound does. #3.)The pentile submatrix does bother me a lot. I played with my friends Nexus today and the whites are like a plaque/linen yellow. The screen has a blue tinge, but I already know this, as it is to preserve the life of the blue pixel since those tend to die out first. 4.) No SD slot especially since I just bought one of those new microSDXC w/ transfer speeds up to 35MB/s. Other than that the Nexus is an okay device, nothing spectacular about it except for ICS.
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1. So true on the craptacular radios... build quality, I like.
2. If Samsung COULD have gone with the Exynos/Mali combo, it would take the Rezound running at 1.8 to have equal horsepower as the Exynos running at 1.2.
3. Oh yeah... PenTILE..... EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
4. Google.
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Thanks. I probably will come back to the rezound, in the end. I just didn't want to commit, like I did with the bionic, go past my 30 days, to come to find I regret my choice 100%. Atleast this way, if I go to the rezound, I won't be sitting here thinking the GNex is better.
I do love ICS though.
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Either phone will be the best choice for your $650. They have their pros and cons. I love Sense and can't stand pure vanilla Android. That's why I have a Rezound. Sit back and think about what you want in a phone. I won't flame you either way. It's YOUR money that will be buying the phone, not anybody else's.
Good luck to you.
So maybe I'm along, but I have way more issues with my rezound radio than my GN.
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especially since I just bought one of those new microSDXC w/ transfer speeds up to 35MB/s..
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Did this just drop right in and work on the Rezound?
Heard that the dropped 4g/3g radio issues are Verizon -related not the phone. That's what I have noticed on my RAZR as well as Rezound.
I definitely think the Rezound has better overall build quality than the Nexus.
One big factor for me was loosing the dedicated search and menu keys.
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i like how this went from a thread about verizon locking the rezound bootloader but not the GNex bootloader to a debate over the phones!
you are all missing the point! haha

Question for thunderbolt users

I currently have a charge and I can trade it to my wife for her thunderbolt plus her upgrade. I won't be able to afford to use the upgrade for a while so I'm wondering if you would recommend the thunderbolt over a charge? I'll be stuck with it for at least a couple months. How is development? Specifically ics as I don't believe it will be long until the charge has it.
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are you unhappy with the Charge? what makes you want to switch?
I've never used a Charge but I love love love my rooted Bolt. Development seems to have slowed a bit lately, but there's so many really polished and stable ROMs available that you could probably fill up a few months just messing with what's already out.
I'm not really unhappy with my charge. My wife is unhappy with her bolt and wants my charge. I believe I would be happy with a rooted bolt though. I haven't done a lot of research yet though so I just wanted to get a feel for it. I've researched the rooting process on the latest update and that's about it. I think I'm going to go for the bolt though. It will make her happy plus I'll have an upgrade in my pocket for later. Win win I guess lol.
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a rooted bolt is very fun to play with.
we have sense 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 ROMs
AOSP gingerbread
and MIUI
ICS is basically as far as it can go besides the camera and radio. which will probably get fixed once another Verizon LTE HTC phone gets ICS (probably a new one or the Rezound) fun to play with but far from a functional ROM.
IMO, the Tbolt is faster and has a much larger developer community than the Charge has. its a great phone, and will keep you happy for a couple months until your upgrade.
Cool thanks for the info. I think we'll swap tonight and I'll get started with the modding. Any rom recommendations? I think I'd like to start off with a sense rom because I've never had an htc device.
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I just rooted my bolt and currently running
[ROM-STOCK-605.9] iKReaM.What.Thee.ROM.605.9-R3Ds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409703
and its running great. Take the bolt and let her have the charge
It's a great phone for a geek
While I wouldn't recommend it for a casual user, with custom roms and it's very active dev community, much more than the charge it's a great phone
and with custom roms you can even work around a lot of the battery woes that come with owning this phone.
I think the bolt is more my style then. My wife is as casual as casual gets. She had an iphone before her bolt. I've been rooting and roming since the d1 not to mention the custom os's I ran on my curve. I'm ready to dig into the bolt now and give her my charge.
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If it makes the wife happy, it'll make you happy That said, the 'Bolt is a fine choice and I'd have to dig up the threads but it seemed like a lot of people preferred it to the Charge and Revolution when they first came out.
Plop I love the bolt came decide niyo or cm7 so I switch around everymonthish (well more like twice a week lol)
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If it makes the wife happy, it'll make you happy That said, the 'Bolt is a fine choice and I'd have to dig up the threads but it seemed like a lot of people preferred it to the Charge and Revolution when they first came out.
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yeah most people prefer the bolt to the charge or revolution, I sure do
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I can see where the bolt would be frustrating for a pretty casual user - if my wife tried to use my phone with the stock software like she uses her iPhone, the battery would be dead in three, four hours
definitely make the trade - worst comes to worst, you can get a new phone for her with the upgrade, and go back to the Charge if you were happy with it
Well I have a rooted tbolt and I love it... Happy I made the switch. Time for bed so I can play some more tomorrow. Thanks for the input everyone.
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gotta go with the bolt. just go on amazon and get the wall charger with 2 extra 1700mh batteries they outlast the stock by a couple hours. With 3 batteries in rotation i am never worried about it dying.
Well I've been setting my thunderbolt up and so far I've had no luck with any tethering apps. Is there any certain I've that works best and what settings should I use?
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Thinking about going to the Rezound. question..

Im coming from the HTC evo from sprint. Im on my way over to Verizon. Im interested in both the Rezound and the nexus...
Is there a reason to choose the REzound over the nexus? It doesnt seem like the Rezound has full root/s-off etc etc right? Is it a matter of time, or do they have this thing locked down?
Rezound have radio lock thats all
Rezound is faster and has alotttt stronger signal. Basically, HTC owns samsung
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I was all about the nexus but after being burned so often by buying and trying to justify my purchase waited and was about to buy a rezound till I got it as a replacement and its awesome. I love this phone so far. Great camera, It's really quick, screen is amazing and its the perfect size
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I came from the EVO as well. It was this or nexus, I chose this for the better camera and beats, which I can't go without now. Plus the free headphones. Only selling point of the nexus is ics but a senseless Rom gives a close experience which should get better in time. Plus sense 3.6 is cool and miui is in progress as well as sense 4.0
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Came from Evo 4G on Sprint as well. Went through 2 Nexus's before giving up and getting the Rezound. Signal and call quality on the Nexus was horrendous. I would hear about every third word the caller was saying which made for some pretty interesting conversations.
The ONLY advantage to the Nexus is the ease of "tweaking" it but I un-locked, flashed a recovery, and flashed a rooted ICS Rom on my Rezound in about 10 minutes.
Get the Rezound ... NO BRAINER
IMHO
Edit: BTW ... The return rate of the Nexus is upwards of 20% according to my Verizon Rep. She told me she wished they would pull it off the market.
I came on over from the Evo 3d and I love the Rezound and coverage so much I've yet to root it. This phone has almost cured my flashism. Though I'm on vacation this week, I might get in on the rooting and madness on this side of town soon.
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Thanks guys.. Im hesistant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
Rezound vs GNex
I poured over this decision back in December. I opted for the rezound because it has an sd card slot and the GNex doesn't. The camera and processor are also superior. I have mine OC's to 1.8 GHz. It is saddled with s-on though. HTC allows users to unlock the bootloader but we cannot flash radios and kernels directly via recovery. It must be done in the bootloader or via fastboot. Not the end of the world but not as easy as an s-off device. This nut seems to be a tough one to crack too. A few devs have been at it since December but no joy
Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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What do you mean by that?
editeD: lolwut I got it now haha fail.
Look, I'm not expert by any means, but I feel I need to chime in. I have owned both phones. The Nexus was probably the sweetest phone I thought I ever had.. Everything seemed to work flawlessly. After a few days I constantly had problems with the Battery, Signal strength and SOUND. Let me explain. ICS was awesome IMO. It worked great and was a really nice change. But that was the only thing that was nice on it. The roms that are coming out now for the Rezound by far make this the best phone I've ever owned. Speed, picture, ICS and I personally like Sense. SO for me to give anyone advice it would easily be GO REZOUND!!
BTW.. Ask this question in the Nexus forum, and I guarantee you'll get a different response. So basically, you need to go in the store, and give yourself 20 minutes to mess around with both phones. Just keep in mind that Samsung has a reputation as having terrible radios. Be sure to listen to the sound on both. And take a look at the resolution and clarity.. A few youtube videos should do it for ya! ALSO, the fact that you get a nice set of ear phones.
I just got the rezound last week and love it. I'm coming from a sensation 4g this is a lot better phone than that is. Plus now we have an ics leak that your phone doesn't have to be rooted is sweet. And when the official ota drops you can still update
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Don't think. Just buy a rezound.
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I faced the same decision, and I went for the Rezound. The camera, reception, and overall build quality of this phone is better than that of the Nexus. I really don't like Sense, and that almost made me go for the Nexus, but software is upgradable and hardware isn't. I'm currently running a senseless ROM (XTreme's), which isn't AOSP, but it's close. It seems like there is being progress with ROMs completely lacking sense (MIUI is being worked on and apparently has RIL in-tact), and once CM9 gets its RIL issues fixed, my phone will feel complete. Even without that, I am very happy with this phone. The screen is amazing, even when compared to a Samsung device (Nexus). The battery life isn't great, but it is an LTE device... I never get signal drops, and I'm always on 4G.
okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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Not much. It makes it more difficult to flash kernels, but it is still relatively easy using adb or just your phone. You can't flash radios (well at least without being relocked), which I think is the major downside of s-off. Also, unlocking through the HTCDev method won't let you go back to complete factory stock (without the bootloader saying relocked), so if Verizon happened to check, they can see that you MAY have voided PARTS of your warranty (not a big deal).
hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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It's really not that bad. Choose the phone you want to go with, but don't let that sway you too much. We may not have as many developers and ROMs as the Nexus, but we have some really great devs. And flashing ROMs and kernels really doesn't take noticeably longer without s-off, and becomes second nature
If you want stock ICS go Nexus.
If you want better screen, eventual Sense ICS (AOSP probably won't be possible until we can get s-off I think), and removable SD card go Rezound.
I've been a stock Android fan since the original Droid, but I've really grown to like Sense and Sense 4.0 looks even better. I do want an eventual AOSP.

[Q] Is the OTA 2.04 Unlock likely?

I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
I wouldn't buy a phone based on what might happen in the future. If nothing else, you could always sell it and buy one unlocked and s off.
The S3 is decent although old and I suspect dev support is on the downhill slope. I'm personally not a fan of the Razr. If it was my choice to make I'd keep the DNA or sell it and get one unlocked, or get a Note 2 to hold me over until Verizon gets the next HTC. The DNA 2 or One Variant.
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
Guess its a good thing the woman that sold me mine was not familiar with smartphones, I had to show her how to take out the SIM tray. I declined the update so I could familiarize myself to sense coming from the razr maxx
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
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You think the phone was updated and didn't just come already preloaded with the new software? I don't remember having to sit through any update, she simply opened it, popped in the sim card, and had me log into my gmail. If that's the case, then I might try that route.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
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Why do you have to point out the amazingness of this phone and make my decision even harder!? I do agree with you though. The DNA has amazing more-than-currently-needed hardware, and that's really what's making my decision so hard. I have faith in the unlock, and plenty of patience, but it's hard being a developer and not being able to dev. I hate being restricted. I'm almost to the point of getting the Note II, but the phablet size is keeping me away for now.
Thanks for the input!
I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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cc16177 said:
I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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I am rooted and unlocked but the main reason I did it was to remap to recents button to long press menu just go get rid of the black menu bar.
Other than that I was very happy with stock.
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My DNA is still locked and unrooted and honestly it doesn't bother me too much. It is pretty awesome as is. Sure it has some annoyances but what phone doesn't?
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Guys If you want an exploit email and twitter at HTC and HTCDEV to release the 2.04 kernel source which they are LEGALLY required to do and have no done so yet. There is seriously a likely exploit there.
I'd stick with the DNA...cm 10.1 is almost done and if devs can't figure out a root method...which i think they will...you can send it off to get s-off for like $40...its not impossible to get s-off
Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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kaliblazin707 said:
Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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^ Truth.
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cc16177 said:
I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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The first thing I do is ROOT when I get a phone. However I can't on the DNA b/c I'm also on 2.04. I'm actually with AT&T using the DNA. I don't have LTE, and MMS only works using GoSMS which I don't really care for. Even with the MMS issue, no LTE, and no ROOT, this phone is still worth it. If I was an actual VZW subscriber, this would be the phone to have for sure.
I want ROOT to remove the horrid software install popups when connecting by usb and to wifi tether. Other than that, the stock rom is pretty smooth. The hardware is just too BEAST to pass up. I'm coming from the OneX which was a great phone as well, but the DNA runs circles around the OneX.
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I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
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I have had numerous Moto phones and the Razr Maxx HD was a big disappointment for me; and I tried hard to love that thing. 32 GB of memory and a battery like no other, but they skimped out by only including 1 GB of RAM which gave me redraw after redraw. It reminded me of my old Charge. The DNA is by far the best stock Android phone I've ever had (15 and counting). If you don't like Sense, then just throw Nova or something similar on top. I would never own a Samsung phone again, but if you're okay with the plastic, crappy feel, the S3 probably has the easiest phone to root and the most custom ROM's.
If you guys want any hope of an exploit, Twitter and email HTC and htcdev to release the kernel source! They are violating the gpl by not doing that.
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Had the Razr as well and loved it but the 1gb of RAM was the problem. Had they put 2gb in the HD's, right now, they would be owning market.
The DNA is amazing even unrooted. Power toggles and Nova make this phone completely unique and i haven't even played with ADW and other launchers. Just crazy fast and lightning quick.

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