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I was about to sell my S4 and pick up the Nexus 5, but I thought I'd start a conversation here first.
I think most, if not all Canadians in here, are aware of the data drop issues we have with our phones when running KitKat roms. My assumption is we still have to patiently wait for Samsung to release us a new modem for 4.4..... but perhaps there are some talented Devs in here who can help.
Over the last week I've been testing almost every kitkat rom available for the jfltecan model. Most ROMs end up with the dreaded data drops. I have spend numerous hours trying odin, mobile odin and cwm flashes of different kernels and modems. I soft-bricked my phone three times last weekend alone trying different combinations.
Here is the list of ROMs I have tried thus far, and a brief summary of my experience. I hope someone is able to make sense of all this, and lead us toward a solution for all ROMs!
Danvdh 4.4.2 Google Edition - data drops
Euroskank VM11 Nightly Kangs - data seemed okay but the ROM itself was sluggish
ShinySide Carbon Kitkat Nightlies - no data drops
iB4STiD Goldeneye, Kangakat, MDOB - no data drops, though Kangakat is the only 4.4 ROM here, what I'm currently running
bippi79 Avatar ROM - data drops
Octane70 Infamous Open Kang Project - I don't recall....
ZPaul2Fresh8 AOKP Kit Kat Unnoficial - Couldn't get this one to boot regardless kernel and modem used
kejar31 Gummy Nightly's - data drops
ks3rv3rg VanirAOSP Nightlies - aweome rom, but data drops
BDogg718 Dirty Unicorns - data drops
I'm a server/network guy, not much a developer myself. So I'm hoping someone with more knowledge than myself will be able to look at which ROMs work, and use that to apply to all the ROMs which don't work... If there is any more info I can provide, by all means just ask. Let's figure this thing out!
TIA, everyone!
davanw said:
I was about to sell my S4 and pick up the Nexus 5, but I thought I'd start a conversation here first.
I think most, if not all Canadians in here, are aware of the data drop issues we have with our phones when running KitKat roms. My assumption is we still have to patiently wait for Samsung to release us a new modem for 4.4..... but perhaps there are some talented Devs in here who can help.
Over the last week I've been testing almost every kitkat rom available for the jfltecan model. Most ROMs end up with the dreaded data drops. I have spend numerous hours trying odin, mobile odin and cwm flashes of different kernels and modems. I soft-bricked my phone three times last weekend alone trying different combinations.
Here is the list of ROMs I have tried thus far, and a brief summary of my experience. I hope someone is able to make sense of all this, and lead us toward a solution for all ROMs!
Danvdh 4.4.2 Google Edition - data drops
Euroskank VM11 Nightly Kangs - data seemed okay but the ROM itself was sluggish
ShinySide Carbon Kitkat Nightlies - no data drops
iB4STiD Goldeneye, Kangakat, MDOB - no data drops, though Kangakat is the only 4.4 ROM here, what I'm currently running
bippi79 Avatar ROM - data drops
Octane70 Infamous Open Kang Project - I don't recall....
ZPaul2Fresh8 AOKP Kit Kat Unnoficial - Couldn't get this one to boot regardless kernel and modem used
kejar31 Gummy Nightly's - data drops
ks3rv3rg VanirAOSP Nightlies - aweome rom, but data drops
BDogg718 Dirty Unicorns - data drops
I'm a server/network guy, not much a developer myself. So I'm hoping someone with more knowledge than myself will be able to look at which ROMs work, and use that to apply to all the ROMs which don't work... If there is any more info I can provide, by all means just ask. Let's figure this thing out!
TIA, everyone!
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What modem are you running?
if youre not running modem mk6 youll have the issues you decribed:
i followed this tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47819176&postcount=9322
and i am using this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537495
lastly i bought fauxclock from google play and downloaded and installed faux kernel ver m not u; m is for a non overclocked kernel.
Zero issues, most stable my phone has ever been. also rom was just updated with a world dialer which is nice if you unlocked your phone an plan on travelling!
also here is another very good rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349077
i have to say; the nexus 5 doesn't impress me at all! Really dont get the hype.
I am on CM 4.4 nightlies and have never experienced 'data drops' at the rate you have described. Used carbon, GE and others and haven't seen them there either. I am on MK6 with my I337M.
I had been on MK6 the whole time while doing all this testing. Still the data drops as my original post explained.
I'm now using MG1 and while the signal is terrible, I'm not getting data drops. :/
Which carrier?
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I had these issues but only when I want using mk6, actually I was still experiencing connection problems to come to think of it until I went into access point names and manually switched to lte.rogers
What carrier are you with? I'm with Rogers obviously. I have also unlocked my phone. Perhaps this helps? Worth trying if you haven't yet
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Which carrier?
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I had these issues but only when I wasnt using mk6, actually I was still experiencing connection problems to come to think of it until I went into access point names and manually switched to lte.rogers
What carrier are you with? I'm with Rogers obviously. I have also unlocked my phone. Perhaps this helps? Worth trying if you haven't yet
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davanw said:
I had been on MK6 the whole time while doing all this testing. Still the data drops as my original post explained.
I'm now using MG1 and while the signal is terrible, I'm not getting data drops. :/
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First I've herd of issues with MK6 (I'm on Rogers). I've been running MK6 on Danvdh for months without any issues. Best of luck.
cantenna said:
Which carrier?
I had these issues but only when I want using mk6, actually I was still experiencing connection problems to come to think of it until I went into access point names and manually switched to lte.rogers
What carrier are you with? I'm with Rogers obviously. I have also unlocked my phone. Perhaps this helps? Worth trying if you haven't yet
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I'm with Bell. The apn setting in my phone was always set correctly, automatically.
jsr84 said:
First I've herd of issues with MK6 (I'm on Rogers). I've been running MK6 on Danvdh for months without any issues. Best of luck.
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There are multiple examples of this issue in this forum, but they're scattered throughout the many ROM threads. That's why I created this thread - to try to bring it all together.
In those ROM threads, the developers always dismiss the issue as a modem problem, yet there are several of us who still have issues regardless of mk6 modem or otherwise.
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There are multiple examples of this issue in this forum, but they're scattered throughout the many ROM threads. That's why I created this thread - to try to bring it all together.
In those ROM threads, the developers always dismiss the issue as a modem problem, yet there are several of us who still have issues regardless of mk6 modem or otherwise.
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Try the modem from the Canadian KK Package, Make sure you extract it from the tar first and just load it, as the non hlos file is in the tar, obviously.
I've sent you the link in a PM, Don't want people accidentally thinking this will help them with other stuff and screwing up their phones
If you're curious about the source, the main thread is in my post history. I'm currently running this modem in a full Canadian KK build on my phone, 0 issues thus far.
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Try the modem from the Canadian KK Package, Make sure you extract it from the tar first and just load it, as the non hlos file is in the tar, obviously.
I've sent you the link in a PM, Don't want people accidentally thinking this will help them with other stuff and screwing up their phones
If you're curious about the source, the main thread is in my post history. I'm currently running this modem in a full Canadian KK build on my phone, 0 issues thus far.
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I'm confused.. I want to install the Canadian modem too. I've downloaded NC1 rar file and there is modem.bin and NON-HOLOS.bin ..
Which one do I load with Odin. . And do i load it with PDA or Phone?
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rymanh said:
I'm confused.. I want to install the Canadian modem too. I've downloaded NC1 rar file and there is modem.bin and NON-HOLOS.bin ..
Which one do I load with Odin. . And do i load it with PDA or Phone?
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Extract only the modem.bin file from the tar.
Put it in the Phone slot of odin, and flash it.
I found it took a couple tries to get it to stick...
Flash modem.bin in the phone slot like normal, but uncheck Auto Reboot.
When Odin finishes, let it sit for 60 seconds, then shutdown the phone by pulling the battery or holding the power button.
Then turn the phone back on and go right back in to Download mode, and flash the modem again.
Then reboot the phone normally, and you should be good.
davanw said:
Extract only the modem.bin file from the tar.
Put it in the Phone slot of odin, and flash it.
I found it took a couple tries to get it to stick...
Flash modem.bin in the phone slot like normal, but uncheck Auto Reboot.
When Odin finishes, let it sit for 60 seconds, then shutdown the phone by pulling the battery or holding the power button.
Then turn the phone back on and go right back in to Download mode, and flash the modem again.
Then reboot the phone normally, and you should be good.
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Thanks.. it worked like a charm
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rymanh said:
I'm confused.. I want to install the Canadian modem too. I've downloaded NC1 rar file and there is modem.bin...
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Hi rymanh, could you share the link you downloaded the NC1 modem please?
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Hi rymanh, could you share the link you downloaded the NC1 modem please?
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Hmm this app on my phone won't let me insert links but I found the modem in the general section in the If 370 Canada leak thread.. In post number 21..
Sorry best I can do when I'm not on a computer lol
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Hidden URL
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Hidden URL
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Yeah inserting a URL wouldn't work for me.. Also auto correct is defeating me too..
On a side note.. since the xda developer app is an app made for a community of developers..it amazes me that they can't develop an app that works properly lol..
OK my 2 second rant is over..
Go to the general section.. Canada kitkat leak thread and the link is on post 21
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Yeah inserting a URL wouldn't work for me.. Also auto correct is defeating me too..
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Thanks! Found it.
Well. I've discovered some more unsettling news.
Per my original post, there are some ROMs that work well with the MK6 modem, and others that end up with data drops.
I thought the new FNC1 modem was going to solve this issue.
But it hasn't.
I was running iBastid's new Skyfall rom with the new FNC1 modem. All was good for three or four days.
Then I went and flashed Danvdh's Google Edition rom. After a few hours of using this ROM successfully, Data Drops. With the same FNC1 modem that worked fine under Skyfall.
It has to be a ROM issue, despite the ROM devs saying it is a modem issue. That is the only conclusion I can come to, having tested multiple ROMs now, with both the MK6 and the new FNC1 modem.
To complicate matters, i've found that the data drops are inconsistent.
For example, today at work all was working well when I was connected to our Wifi. Then I went out for lunch. When the phone switched over to LTE, I couldn't use Twitter or Foursquare or the Play store or Gmail. But Chrome would still load web pages.
davanw said:
Well. I've discovered some more unsettling news.
Per my original post, there are some ROMs that work well with the MK6 modem, and others that end up with data drops.
I thought the new FNC1 modem was going to solve this issue.
But it hasn't.
I was running iBastid's new Skyfall rom with the new FNC1 modem. All was good for three or four days.
Then I went and flashed Danvdh's Google Edition rom. After a few hours of using this ROM successfully, Data Drops. With the same FNC1 modem that worked fine under Skyfall.
It has to be a ROM issue, despite the ROM devs saying it is a modem issue. That is the only conclusion I can come to, having tested multiple ROMs now, with both the MK6 and the new FNC1 modem.
To complicate matters, i've found that the data drops are inconsistent.
For example, today at work all was working well when I was connected to our Wifi. Then I went out for lunch. When the phone switched over to LTE, I couldn't use Twitter or Foursquare or the Play store or Gmail. But Chrome would still load web pages.
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Funny thing... I had a similar experience. My S4 had MG2 baseband and I had GE ROM for half a day before I decided to go back to CM. When phone had GE installed and MG2 modem, signal was terrible. It had no signal for some time. But strange though, when phone showed up with 0 bar, it actually could receive call. Very strange!
Afterwards, I found NC1 above, flashed it via ODIN (not mobile) followed with CM ROM. It worked like charm for some certain area but in suburb, I only got 1-2 bars of signal. I also noticed that when switching from airplane mode to operation mode, phone took longer time to pick up signal. Maybe I need to look up a MK6 to try it out.
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
Astrongtower said:
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
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Unless you want a few undesirable tradeoffs in your hands, either live without KitKat and no update, or take it and remain stock until a proven, trouble free method is available.
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Astrongtower said:
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
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Yeah if you take the update you will no longer be rooted, and the only way to root Kitkat will trip Knox. So if Knox is a worry for you I would stay where you are at. Personally for me Kitkat fixed alot of small issues for me, so the update was much worth it, but I could careless about tripping knox personally anyway. I will never be sending my phone to Samsung.
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Yeah if you take the update you will no longer be rooted, and the only way to root Kitkat will trip Knox. So if Knox is a worry for you I would stay where you are at. Personally for me Kitkat fixed alot of small issues for me, so the update was much worth it, but I could careless about tripping knox personally anyway. I will never be sending my phone to Samsung.
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Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
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Astrongtower said:
Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
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Well maybe someone else can chime in on some things they noticed also, but for me I was on Mj4 maybe 3 or 4 days till I updated. For me bluetooth got wayyyyy better on Mj4 when i would get in my vehicle bluetooth media wouldn't stream without skipping every ten to fifteen seconds. Nab modem I get faster speeds and stronger signal(but this will vary on location of the end user)....me I get great battery life(this depends on what rom you are using. I use Sacs Kitkat rom and I get great battery life) I stream audio probably 2 hours out of a day.....Wifi always on...bluetooth always on.....constantly searching etc I would say I'm probably a semi heavy user and at the end of the day I don't think I've ever been under 50% battery left at the end of the night. And that's my phone unplugging say 8am till 11pm or so.
Astrongtower said:
Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
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You are using a Custom ROM. That probably explains why you enjoy it so much.
I think it is the stock 4.4.2 Kik Kat that has the horrible batttery life.
So far I am enjoying stock 4.3 with basic root and disable notifocatons on the update.
Do I get the same cell phone reception when I stay on 4.3 or do I need to upgrade to 4.4.2 to get better reception and security?
You know, is it like updating windows and you get security updates and stuff or is it strickly that they just want to limit people from rooting by making it harder.
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Astrongtower said:
You are using a Custom ROM. That probably explains why you enjoy it so much.
I think it is the stock 4.4.2 Kik Kat that has the horrible batttery life.
So far I am enjoying stock 4.3 with basic root and disable notifocatons on the update.
Do I get the same cell phone reception when I stay on 4.3 or do I need to upgrade to 4.4.2 to get better reception and security?
You know, is it like updating windows and you get security updates and stuff or is it strickly that they just want to limit people from rooting by making it harder.
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Of course I'm running a custom ROM, that's the main purpose of rooting for me. I don't ever stay stock, I've never had good battery life on stock with any phone.
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Do you know anything about cell phone reception and security updates vs sticking with older roms or custom roms vs staying with latest factory update ROM OTA?
Just wondering if there is truly a benefit of sticking with pure stock and latest updates OTA even if you decided to deal with the negatives.
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Astrongtower said:
Do you know anything about cell phone reception and security updates vs sticking with older roms or custom roms vs staying with latest factory update ROM OTA?
Just wondering if there is truly a benefit of sticking with pure stock and latest updates OTA even if you decided to deal with the negatives.
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Well...alot of the times custom roms you are going to have all the latest security updates etc just as same as the stock ota. They are built from the base of the ota and then modified. Data speeds usually have a bit of increase because of different tweaks and such. The biggest problem with stock is all the Carrier stuff it adds in....same with knox added in.....all that stuff running in the background adds to battery drain. If I were you I would try flash a custom rom like Sacs.....then try it for a couple days....you can always go back to a stock rom.
Nvm forgot you didn't want to trip knox, so custom rom is pretty much out the question for you.
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Well maybe someone else can chime in on some things they noticed also, but for me I was on Mj4 maybe 3 or 4 days till I updated. For me bluetooth got wayyyyy better on Mj4 when i would get in my vehicle bluetooth media wouldn't stream without skipping every ten to fifteen seconds. Nab modem I get faster speeds and stronger signal(but this will vary on location of the end user)....me I get great battery life(this depends on what rom you are using. I use Sacs Kitkat rom and I get great battery life) I stream audio probably 2 hours out of a day.....Wifi always on...bluetooth always on.....constantly searching etc I would say I'm probably a semi heavy user and at the end of the day I don't think I've ever been under 50% battery left at the end of the night. And that's my phone unplugging say 8am till 11pm or so.
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Can you tell us what modem you are using that gives you faster speeds and stronger signal? I was on both stock and multiple custom ROMs of MJ4 and I got way better signal strength and speeds than I do with NAB, and I'm running Sacs NAB ROM. I haven't flashed any other mod either, it's just Sacs. I was thinking of doing Carbon's AOSP ROM and seeing if I can get stock samsung apps (like camera, TW, just the basics, no bloatware) to work. I just personally like TW and like the features that the camera has (even though I've never, even out of the box, been able to get drama to work). I love the speed of AOSP and the minimal disk footprint, I just prefer some, SOME, of the samsung apps. But my main pain point right now with any NAB (4.4.2) ROM, stock or custom, is my signal got worse. Yes, I work on the Sprint campus so of course my nation wide clear coverage is non-existent (I'm lucky to get two bars of 3G, much less the LTE speed that Verizon or AT&T users ON THE SPRINT CAMPUS get to enjoy, sprint fail, I digress). Anywho, at home when I was on MJ4, I was getting download speeds of 15 Mb and upload speeds of around 6 Mb. Now with NAB I'm getting 5 Mb download speeds and 7.5 Mb upload speeds! Tell me how that works??? Maybe that's why battery life is so good for me, because I'm not connecting to the network so it's not using battery to communicate. I doubt it, but it sounded good at the time. So if you have a modem that you can point me to so I can flash it to get the better signal and speed, I'd be really appreciative.
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Can you tell us what modem you are using that gives you faster speeds and stronger signal? I was on both stock and multiple custom ROMs of MJ4 and I got way better signal strength and speeds than I do with NAB, and I'm running Sacs NAB ROM. I haven't flashed any other mod either, it's just Sacs. I was thinking of doing Carbon's AOSP ROM and seeing if I can get stock samsung apps (like camera, TW, just the basics, no bloatware) to work. I just personally like TW and like the features that the camera has (even though I've never, even out of the box, been able to get drama to work). I love the speed of AOSP and the minimal disk footprint, I just prefer some, SOME, of the samsung apps. But my main pain point right now with any NAB (4.4.2) ROM, stock or custom, is my signal got worse. Yes, I work on the Sprint campus so of course my nation wide clear coverage is non-existent (I'm lucky to get two bars of 3G, much less the LTE speed that Verizon or AT&T users ON THE SPRINT CAMPUS get to enjoy, sprint fail, I digress). Anywho, at home when I was on MJ4, I was getting download speeds of 15 Mb and upload speeds of around 6 Mb. Now with NAB I'm getting 5 Mb download speeds and 7.5 Mb upload speeds! Tell me how that works??? Maybe that's why battery life is so good for me, because I'm not connecting to the network so it's not using battery to communicate. I doubt it, but it sounded good at the time. So if you have a modem that you can point me to so I can flash it to get the better signal and speed, I'd be really appreciative.
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Unfortunately I don't have a answer for you I'm on the NAB modem also, one thing I just wanted to throw out there is modems always vary on location. And for some reason we don't have any modem options like previous phones I had the S4...Epic 4g touch....all had different modems with different releases so we were always able to flash different ones to find out works best for each individual. The only thing I would say to try is check make sure you have the latest prl.
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Unfortunately I don't have a answer for you I'm on the NAB modem also, one thing I just wanted to throw out there is modems always vary on location. And for some reason we don't have any modem options like previous phones I had the S4...Epic 4g touch....all had different modems with different releases so we were always able to flash different ones to find out works best for each individual. The only thing I would say to try is check make sure you have the latest prl.
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I do agree that different locations cause different results. My thought though is that my phone would be hitting the same radio towers as before. I don't think there has been an update to the tower radios, meaning LTE is LTE. What leads me to think it's not the towers is when I was on MJ4, I got great signal and then right after I flashed I immediately saw the degradation, I'm pretty confident that no hardware changes happened within that 10 minutes. Updating the PRL would just wipe out my phone's "favorite" towers. So it would force my phone to "re-authenticate" to the same towers that I already hit while on MJ4. That's my thoughts though, I could be totally wrong as I don't fully understand what all goes in to the phone radio communicating with the towers, I only know what hardware changes are or are not happening with the network.
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I do agree that different locations cause different results. My thought though is that my phone would be hitting the same radio towers as before. I don't think there has been an update to the tower radios, meaning LTE is LTE. What leads me to think it's not the towers is when I was on MJ4, I got great signal and then right after I flashed I immediately saw the degradation, I'm pretty confident that no hardware changes happened within that 10 minutes. Updating the PRL would just wipe out my phone's "favorite" towers. So it would force my phone to "re-authenticate" to the same towers that I already hit while on MJ4. That's my thoughts though, I could be totally wrong as I don't fully understand what all goes in to the phone radio communicating with the towers, I only know what hardware changes are or are not happening with the network.
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You are probably right, sounds logical I don't personally know either. All I could do is give you what my next option would be I don't really know what else to say. But I definitely agree with you.
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You are probably right, sounds logical I don't personally know either. All I could do is give you what my next option would be I don't really know what else to say. But I definitely agree with you.
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Oh I appreciate any and all help. Even in stating what you did you may have said something that triggered a thought process that I haven't explored yet. So never be afraid to "state the obvious" (for lack of a better term) to me. I'll never take it as a negative. Hell, there will also be times that I haven't tried the obvious just because my brain is searching for a more complex solution when it could be as easy as "did you turn on WiFi?" lol
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Oh I appreciate any and all help. Even in stating what you did you may have said something that triggered a thought process that I haven't explored yet. So never be afraid to "state the obvious" (for lack of a better term) to me. I'll never take it as a negative. Hell, there will also be times that I haven't tried the obvious just because my brain is searching for a more complex solution when it could be as easy as "did you turn on WiFi?" lol
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I've been there done that lol
I lost the actual phone on this Rooted S4 mdk bootloader with philz latest. I'm honestly kinda tired of this phone. Maybe I'm not used to Sammy n It's backwards way who knows. I'm on a family share plan and this month was killer I used 2.5 gb off a 3 plan. I believe Rouge app or a new router I'd to blame.
Brief history on latest Baja now n was when issue was noticed. I got a voice mail (well 3 umm girlfriend jail call to me lol a story for another time) Flashed Slim bean (slimkat 4.4.2) real quick the other night, but couldn't figure out how to get it to see ext sdcard, made backup. Went back to Baja. Issue started so I tried flashing to hyperdrive no luck, Bonestock same results. Did a full odin bts with full wipe with no luck. I have data and wifi n my speakers work, just no calls on or out at all. I've tried different modems with no success. My stupid sister said maybe it's my Sim card. Help! Thanx y'all
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This should probably be in the Q&A section - but nonetheless are you sure your modem and apnhlos match? Had some weird crap happen to me and flashing the MDK modem/apnhlos solved it. Just a thought. Not sure your sim card is bad if you can get data/wifi........anybody?
Tons of drop calls after flashing to NAB. Then i tried Carbon Nightlies but did not use long enough to know if it has the same problem. Then have been on SACS kk ever since. It happens consistently with the Official NAB and SACS.
I do want to add that after deciding that I wanted to go back to 4.3, I attempted to flash back, several attempts, and several methods. I don't remember exactly what I flashed (months ago). I am beginning to second guess whether I might have flashed the wrong thing, maybe wrong radio or something.
If I post shots of my aboutPhone details, is it possible to identify what might be potentially causing this?
From my understanding you can not go back to 4.3 after flashing to NAB. It is odd that you are having these issues because I am running sacs and s5 port and I'm not having any issues what so ever. Post your about phone. Maybe someone can see from that. Gotta start somewhere.
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Yeah, shortly after I found out that it was irreversible. Here is AboutDevice.
Does anything look out of place?
my phone is also dropping calls now that im on NC5 kitkat. What gives? I know sprint is notorious for this kind of spotty service but c'mon, really?
Not saying sprint is the greatest, but maybe it's service upgrades in your area?
thats what they want you to think.. but really the "network vision upgrades" are already done in my area.
Im on the debloaded NC5 stockish rom. The problem started on stock
j00manji said:
thats what they want you to think.. but really the "network vision upgrades" are already done in my area.
Im on the debloaded NC5 stockish rom. The problem started on stock
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For comparison purposes try odining back to stock NC5 if problems persist try wipping data/factory reset in stock recovery and see if that helps? I am on NAB and I have no issues?
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sorry, i should have mentioned that I was originally on stock NC5 (rooted) when the issue started. since then I began to care less. The droped calls started happening 3 days ago. I started flashing roms on to my phone yesterday lol
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sorry, i should have mentioned that I was originally on stock NC5 (rooted) when the issue started. since then I began to care less. The droped calls started happening 3 days ago. I started flashing roms on to my phone yesterday lol
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You can always try to use older Basebands/Modems. Some users have reported that the MJ4 or NAB basebands work better in their area than the NC5 ones.
You need to first install the Engineering Bootloader. Then you can use ODIN to flash the desired Baseband.
I'm o KitKat Killer 4 NC5 and only get about 2 dropped calls a day.. I'm willing to bet this is a tower issue, rather than a software issue..
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You can always try to use older Basebands/Modems. Some users have reported that the MJ4 or NAB basebands work better in their area than the NC5 ones.
You need to first install the Engineering Bootloader. Then you can use ODIN to flash the desired Baseband.
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Thanks for the tip. Is it ok to use the MJ4 baseband while on NC5? I do want to try it since thats what the phone was shipped with and it worked fine out of the box for 2 days lol.
It's funny, I used to drop calls all the time in the same area. After the update I don't drop calls in that area, but now in 2 other areas every time, it's like clockwork. Usually when 4g signal is really low, amybe it's when it tries to switch to 3g it looses the call. IDK, my S4 never dropped calls and I travel the same routes to and from work.
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Thanks for the tip. Is it ok to use the MJ4 baseband while on NC5? I do want to try it since thats what the phone was shipped with and it worked fine out of the box for 2 days lol.
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As long as you flash the engineering boot loader as was mentioned, then yes.
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Here is my situation. I cannot make any calls. It sits on dialing then eventually just "hangs up". If someone calls me it goes straight to voice mail like it would do if it was turned off. I often get no network errors also. Data and sms work like normal.
Here is what I have done.
Called Verizon. Got a new sim. No change.
Reflashed back to stock 4.1.1 in Odin. No change.
flashed mj9 radio in Odin. No change.
Rooted and unlocked usually casual. No change.
Flashed alliance 26. No change.
I have cleared data in the phone app in settings.
Mobile network shows as cdma/lte. Access Point is vzwinternet. I have pulled the sim and let it sit for a few minutes. I have pulled the sim and powered on, then powered off and put the sim back in. That is what I have found from searching Google and it doesn't work.
I'm going to call Verizon again. I want them to reset everything associated with my number.
In the meantine, does anyone have any suggestions?
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Unlocked bootloader and VRUEMJ9
I am in nearly the same position. I currently have a Service State of "Out of Service" and Mobile network state of "Disconnected". Occasionally it will show connected and I will receive emails. I cannot make or receive calls, I cannot send or receive texts. My phone shows connected to Verizon and LTE, imei showing correctly, as is the serial number. Currently on baseband i605 VRUEMJ9 and recovery is TWRP 2.7.0.0. I have flashed many roms to the phone, but this problem occurred when flashing slimrom 4.4.2. I backed up with Nandroid prior to flashing and when the problem surfaced I tried to restore in TWRP, but it won't correct the problem. I was on CM 10.1.3 prior to trying to move to 4.4.2 and that is what my backup is of(CM10.1.3). Currently I have gone down to Slim rom 4.3 build 2.1 as it seems to be the most stable and results in the most things working. My first question to the community is, I thought i605 VRUEMJ9 baseband had a LOCKED bootloader? How is it that I have custom recovery, have installed at least 3 different roms, etc? I bought the phone 2nd hand and this is the way it came to me. The level of complexity on Note 2 is far and away worse than S3. If anyone has any ideas on what is corrupted(EFS or what) and what my best course of action should be to preserve my unlocked bootloader and root and ability to flash custom roms. Is it possible since my bootloader "appears" to be unlocked that I could flash a different radio(baseband) replacing the problematic VRUEMJ9? Every tutorial on repairing situations like these seem to point you in the direction of going back to 100% stock which isn't something I'm willing to try at this point given I currently have an unlocked bootloader.
I have changed out the sim, spoken to Verizon who have reset everything on the account. I think it's time to replace the phone and sell this one to someone who wants to take it to a MVNO.
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Here is my situation. I cannot make any calls. It sits on dialing then eventually just "hangs up". If someone calls me it goes straight to voice mail like it would do if it was turned off. I often get no network errors also. Data and sms work like normal.
Here is what I have done.
Called Verizon. Got a new sim. No change.
Reflashed back to stock 4.1.1 in Odin. No change.
flashed mj9 radio in Odin. No change.
Rooted and unlocked usually casual. No change.
Flashed alliance 26. No change.
I have cleared data in the phone app in settings.
Mobile network shows as cdma/lte. Access Point is vzwinternet. I have pulled the sim and let it sit for a few minutes. I have pulled the sim and powered on, then powered off and put the sim back in. That is what I have found from searching Google and it doesn't work.
I'm going to call Verizon again. I want them to reset everything associated with my number.
In the meantine, does anyone have any suggestions?
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For ****s and giggles this weird method fixed texting for several of us that was broke even a Odin the trying everything under the sun. Let me know if some whack chance it works.
Rom: http://www.mediafire.com/download/t4e8a7uzeul79ug/4.4.2_WIP_BUILD_1_BETA.zip
SuperSU 1.93: http://www.mediafire.com/download/uhzx3n6ypkb5xt5/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip
1.) Wipe everything raw
2.) Flash 4.4.2 TW Wip Build 1 and flash SuperSU 1.93
3.) Boot up and try to send a few texts. They will fail everytime as texting is broke in this build (but this is how the magic happens)
4.) Reboot, maybe try and send a few more texts again (again they will fail)
5.) Reboot into recovery and wipe everything raw
6.) Flash latest CM11 or any other AOSP rom
7.) Reboot and Profit!
Credits to lacoursiere18 for this early kitkat build.
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I am in nearly the same position. I currently have a Service State of "Out of Service" and Mobile network state of "Disconnected". Occasionally it will show connected and I will receive emails. I cannot make or receive calls, I cannot send or receive texts. My phone shows connected to Verizon and LTE, imei showing correctly, as is the serial number. Currently on baseband i605 VRUEMJ9 and recovery is TWRP 2.7.0.0. I have flashed many roms to the phone, but this problem occurred when flashing slimrom 4.4.2. I backed up with Nandroid prior to flashing and when the problem surfaced I tried to restore in TWRP, but it won't correct the problem. I was on CM 10.1.3 prior to trying to move to 4.4.2 and that is what my backup is of(CM10.1.3). Currently I have gone down to Slim rom 4.3 build 2.1 as it seems to be the most stable and results in the most things working. My first question to the community is, I thought i605 VRUEMJ9 baseband had a LOCKED bootloader? How is it that I have custom recovery, have installed at least 3 different roms, etc? I bought the phone 2nd hand and this is the way it came to me. The level of complexity on Note 2 is far and away worse than S3. If anyone has any ideas on what is corrupted(EFS or what) and what my best course of action should be to preserve my unlocked bootloader and root and ability to flash custom roms. Is it possible since my bootloader "appears" to be unlocked that I could flash a different radio(baseband) replacing the problematic VRUEMJ9? Every tutorial on repairing situations like these seem to point you in the direction of going back to 100% stock which isn't something I'm willing to try at this point given I currently have an unlocked bootloader.
I have changed out the sim, spoken to Verizon who have reset everything on the account. I think it's time to replace the phone and sell this one to someone who wants to take it to a MVNO.
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If your flashing roms your fully unlocked.
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DreamFX said:
For ****s and giggles this weird method fixed texting for several of us that was broke even a Odin the trying everything under the sun. Let me know if some whack chance it works.
Rom: http://www.mediafire.com/download/t4e8a7uzeul79ug/4.4.2_WIP_BUILD_1_BETA.zip
SuperSU 1.93: http://www.mediafire.com/download/uhzx3n6ypkb5xt5/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip
1.) Wipe everything raw
2.) Flash 4.4.2 TW Wip Build 1 and flash SuperSU 1.93
3.) Boot up and try to send a few texts. They will fail everytime as texting is broke in this build (but this is how the magic happens)
4.) Reboot, maybe try and send a few more texts again (again they will fail)
5.) Reboot into recovery and wipe everything raw
6.) Flash latest CM11 or any other AOSP rom
7.) Reboot and Profit!
Credits to lacoursiere18 for this early kitkat build.
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Are you using TWRP or philz?
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Fully unlocked...
michigan66 said:
If your flashing roms your fully unlocked.
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Ok, if I'm fully unlocked can I replace the radio/baseband? Which one should I switch to? I am not digging having i605 VRUEMJ9 on the phone and I think it would be safer to have one of the better basebands....
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Ok, if I'm fully unlocked can I replace the radio/baseband? Which one should I switch to? I am not digging having i605 VRUEMJ9 on the phone and I think it would be safer to have one of the better basebands....
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There are flash able zips in the touch wiz 4.4.2 threads.
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Are you using TWRP or philz?
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TWRP
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TWRP
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Didn't work. Mobile network not available error. I really don't understand why it make calls. If data and sms didn't work it would make more sense.
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Didn't work. Mobile network not available error. I really don't understand why it make calls. If data and sms didn't work it would make more sense.
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so weird
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so weird
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Did you try a different phone to see if it works?
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so weird
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Did you try a different phone to see if it works?
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No. Verizon said it's a network error. They are sending out a technician to check things in the area. I don't have a lot of faith in that one though. If I put the sim in my wife's phone......I can just swap them back and everything will be normal again right? I don't need to call verizon or anything to do it?
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No. Verizon said it's a network error. They are sending out a technician to check things in the area. I don't have a lot of faith in that one though. If I put the sim in my wife's phone......I can just swap them back and everything will be normal again right? I don't need to call verizon or anything to do it?
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You have to call or setup online it's a pain in the ass. It never worked for me by just swapping.
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You have to call or setup online it's a pain in the ass. It never worked for me by just swapping.
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I thought I would give you an update since you are heavy aosp user. I was thinking about how this happened. I installed slim ROM and suddenly I couldn't make calls.
So today I thought I would try an aosp ROM just to give it a shot. I installed slim and magically I could make calls. I have no idea why it worked.
I wonder if slim uses some sort of different coding? I am gonna backup and try a TW ROM to see it that works now too.
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I thought I would give you an update since you are heavy aosp user. I was thinking about how this happened. I installed slim ROM and suddenly I couldn't make calls.
So today I thought I would try an aosp ROM just to give it a shot. I installed slim and magically I could make calls. I have no idea why it worked.
I wonder if slim uses some sort of different coding? I am gonna backup and try a TW ROM to see it that works now too.
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So so weird. But can't say I'm surprised. I could text for months on just tw roms and never on aosp. You can make calls on aosp but not tw. Just laughing to myself. It's not funny but I I'm laughing because I know the frustration your going through. Let me know if tw now works and good luck buddy.
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So so weird. But can't say I'm surprised. I could text for months on just tw roms and never on aosp. You can make calls on aosp but not tw. Just laughing to myself. It's not funny but I I'm laughing because I know the frustration your going through. Let me know if tw now works and good luck buddy.
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Works perfect. It's really bizarre. Either flashing slim reset something or Verizon fixed the network problem. Just glad it's fixed. Thanks for all the help!!
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Which rom exactly
michigan66 said:
I thought I would give you an update since you are heavy aosp user. I was thinking about how this happened. I installed slim ROM and suddenly I couldn't make calls.
So today I thought I would try an aosp ROM just to give it a shot. I installed slim and magically I could make calls. I have no idea why it worked.
I wonder if slim uses some sort of different coding? I am gonna backup and try a TW ROM to see it that works now too.
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Which aosp ROM did you try to get it to work? I'm still having the same problem.
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Which aosp ROM did you try to get it to work? I'm still having the same problem.
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Slim is what I flashed. Verizon did say there was a network problem. . Not sure which one it was that fixed it.
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I'm having a same issue here.
I got a locked MJ9, and it has terrible signal with all three major carriers (AT&T, VERIZON, TMOBILE).
I upgraded to ND7, and have the same problem.
When the phone goes to sleep, it looks like the antennae goes to sleep as well.
So the phone doesn't even receive the phone calls.
Only when I initiate a phone call once, it starts receiving the call.
Has anyone have success with any particular rom? As you can see, my only options are stock roms since I have locked bootloader.