Related
So i got a note 3, hoping to have a sharper screen than my Galaxy S3, boy was i wrong! Does anyone else see that when zooming in or even just viewing pictures in the gallery (not even ones taken with camera) they come up looking low quality? Almost blotchy? I go to look at the same exact picture on my s3 and on my laptop and oh man the s3 and laptop beat out the Note 3 by miles. The pictures are crystal clear on the s3 and laptop....
does anyone else have this issue? Know what im talking about? Is there a fix?
Are you high? I had the S3 a while back and this display is far superior in color and detail...
Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk
Duce HD2 said:
Are you high? I had the S3 a while back and this display is far superior in color and detail...
Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im thinking it has to do with the fact that these screens use the "diamond" type of pixels or something. The way it displays image quality is just awful (not with all images, but a lot of downloaded pictures from the internet. Things id like to set as wallpaper etc. They look great on the s3 and laptop, but terrible, blotchy and blocky on the note 3)
anyone??
aplacetorest said:
anyone??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've gone from using my 1080p laptop, old S3, and ONe X and by far the Note 3's quality blows them all out of the water... Not only is the pixel density super high but the quality of display is flat out the best their is. This is objectively and factually speaking of course.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
Also, make sure the source your downloading form is high quality stuff. The picture needs to be at least 1920x1080 to take advantage of all those pixels. Anything less the phone will stretch out...
As far is the 'diamond pixel' arrangement, you are probably referring to the pentile matrix that the Note 3 uses. There are some benefits to this style, versus RGB that is more commonly used, but I don't particularly like it. The problem is that it effectively uses less pixels - well, technically subpixels - than 'normal'. If you compare a Galaxy S3 screen to a contemporary's screen, like the One X, you'll see how much clearer the One X screen looks.
HOWEVER
With the standard now being 1080P screens, pentile screens look really, really good. After my note 1, I thought I'd never get a pentile screen again, but with the pixel density being so high with 1080P, there is essentially no graininess with the screen on my Note 3.
You'll see that many phone sites and reviews list the note 3's screen as one of the best, highest quality displays despite being pentile. In fact, my wife's LG G2 has perhaps THE best mobile phone screen (SLCD3), it doesn't look all that much better than my note 3, IMO.
Also, your Galaxy S3 (and S4 for that matter) is a Pentile screen with LOWER resolution, so my guess is that it's not that screen but perhaps the pictures that you are viewing. Are the pictures exactly the same as far as resolution and compression? I have yet to see a blurry grainy picture on my Note 3 that looked clear on another phone.
The note 3 screen is much much better than the S3 screen, and they use the same tech. Unless you are using a microscope...
chompone said:
As far is the 'diamond pixel' arrangement, you are probably referring to the pentile matrix that the Note 3 uses. There are some benefits to this style, versus RGB that is more commonly used, but I don't particularly like it. The problem is that it effectively uses less pixels - well, technically subpixels - than 'normal'. If you compare a Galaxy S3 screen to a contemporary's screen, like the One X, you'll see how much clearer the One X screen looks.
HOWEVER
With the standard now being 1080P screens, pentile screens look really, really good. After my note 1, I thought I'd never get a pentile screen again, but with the pixel density being so high with 1080P, there is essentially no graininess with the screen on my Note 3.
You'll see that many phone sites and reviews list the note 3's screen as one of the best, highest quality displays despite being pentile. In fact, my wife's LG G2 has perhaps THE best mobile phone screen (SLCD3), it doesn't look all that much better than my note 3, IMO.
Also, your Galaxy S3 (and S4 for that matter) is a Pentile screen with LOWER resolution, so my guess is that it's not that screen but perhaps the pictures that you are viewing. Are the pictures exactly the same as far as resolution and compression? I have yet to see a blurry grainy picture on my Note 3 that looked clear on another phone.
The note 3 screen is much much better than the S3 screen, and they use the same tech. Unless you are using a microscope...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
same pictures, same files, it just looks like the phone is rendering the image and it is doing it wrong.
ok so let me attempt at making an analogy type of thing. When theres a low resolution image and you zoon in,normally it gets all blocky and distorted yes? Sometimes thing dont go blocky, they go blurry and almost have that "oil painted" look when zoomed in too far. That very look is how my note 3 is handling some images without even zooming in. whereas on my s3, they were crystal clear, and on the laptop they were as well. On my laptop i can see specific lines and details in the image that dont even show with my note 3 because of the way the image is being displayed in a awful manner. its almost as if certain parts of the image are blurry and blotchy. But only on the note 3 screen. (and no, its not that part of the screen, cause of course everything else like play store looks normal and gorgeous) so i think im just upset in how the note 3 is handling image processing.
aplacetorest said:
same pictures, same files, it just looks like the phone is rendering the image and it is doing it wrong.
ok so let me attempt at making an analogy type of thing. When theres a low resolution image and you zoon in,normally it gets all blocky and distorted yes? Sometimes thing dont go blocky, they go blurry and almost have that "oil painted" look when zoomed in too far. That very look is how my note 3 is handling some images without even zooming in. whereas on my s3, they were crystal clear, and on the laptop they were as well. On my laptop i can see specific lines and details in the image that dont even show with my note 3 because of the way the image is being displayed in a awful manner. its almost as if certain parts of the image are blurry and blotchy. But only on the note 3 screen. (and no, its not that part of the screen, cause of course everything else like play store looks normal and gorgeous) so i think im just upset in how the note 3 is handling image processing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Perhaps go compare the same photo at a Sprint store (or any other retailer).
I've looked close up on hundreds of original res photos between my laptop, Nexus 7 2013, and this phone, with the laptop and the phone at 1080p, and the phone looks perfect. I used for just this question a photo I threw in my Dropbox account, and zoomed in close.
Perhaps you've got a bad phone. If so, you'll be able to return it.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
micmars said:
Perhaps go compare the same photo at a Sprint store (or any other retailer).
I've looked close up on hundreds of original res photos between my laptop, Nexus 7 2013, and this phone, with the laptop and the phone at 1080p, and the phone looks perfect. I used for just this question a photo I threw in my Dropbox account, and zoomed in close.
Perhaps you've got a bad phone. If so, you'll be able to return it.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
im going to screenshot to compare and show you guys so no one thinks im crazy lol
aplacetorest said:
im going to screenshot to compare and show you guys so no one thinks im crazy lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok so heres a comparison. A good picture to show details indeed. Tattoo quality etc. Notice on the note how minor details get "blurred" and distorted. and thats zoomed in. The same zoom was applied to the one on the laptop. And on the S3 it looks just like the laptop
The Note 3 processes images differently, and i hate it. See what i mean by low image quality?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
aplacetorest said:
Ok so heres a comparison. A good picture to show details indeed. Tattoo quality etc. Notice on the note how minor details get "blurred" and distorted. and thats zoomed in. The same zoom was applied to the one on the laptop. And on the S3 it looks just like the laptop
The Note 3 processes images differently, and i hate it. See what i mean by low image quality?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no one has anything to say about that? Same picture, same zoom, same everything. Just different device. and i gotta say, im really disappointed in the note 3 pulling that crap
I believe you are describing something that bothers you (histrionics in the thread title notwithstanding), and have shown one example to convey your frustration to others (your concerns are valid, in my opinion). This may not be the best route, as most love this screen. Furthermore, the issue you have is far from simple; the realm of screen resolution, graphics processing, pixel rendering, color accuracy, &c is a highly complex system. Change just one variable in the controlled environment (file viewer, for example), and everything else changes.
Let us try another route. Here is a photo, in its original resolution (10MB file size), taken with the Canon EOS 70D, from the site DPReview.com,
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.ga...813603&Signature=pmyXwtQ2d4TtXROo9/Q2uwfH69w=
I suggest that folks look at this on their own from different devices, draw their own inferences, and perhaps provide some feedback.
I just looked at that photo from Chrome on my Nexus 7 2013 and this phone (color set to movie mode). I think that the fine details in the hair, wrinkles in the guy's face, the wings on the purple costume, all look spectacular, with less matting and moire, from the GN3. The backlight on the Nexus does lend for a different viewing experience, but as far as native compression on that photo, I am not seeing it on this phone at all.
Here's another photo, just for kicks (macro shot),
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.ga...823691&Signature=1qsPty4pho4xKLglvILtUNJWENA=
After looking at the flower, especially the water drops on the far right petals, I'm completely happy with the fine details on this screen. It's pretty amazing.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
You would notice more distortion on a higher screen resolution and bigger screen. A better comparison would be done with two devices with at least the same exact resolution. N3 and S4
w7excursion said:
You would notice more distortion on a higher screen resolution and bigger screen. A better comparison would be done with two devices with at least the same exact resolution. N3 and S4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. I believe that if you look at those two photos to which I linked from your Note 3, they'll look pretty dang good. I see none of the flattening of fine detail that the OP noticed. At full size, they look pitch-perfect. The pics posted earlier seem like some severe lossy compression is going on, either from within the viewer, or something is wrong with the GPU.
Also, from what I've read, both the SIII and Note 3 use RGB pentile pixel arrays, with the Note 3 providing higher resolution than the SIII.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
You guys can bash me if you want. OP if you want great pics take a DSLR. Ten years ago cell phones could barely text. It is after all a cell phone first. If you don't like it get rid of it. I'm more than happy with my Note 3.
micmars said:
I believe you are describing something that bothers you (histrionics in the thread title notwithstanding), and have shown one example to convey your frustration to others (your concerns are valid, in my opinion). This may not be the best route, as most love this screen. Furthermore, the issue you have is far from simple; the realm of screen resolution, graphics processing, pixel rendering, color accuracy, &c is a highly complex system. Change just one variable in the controlled environment (file viewer, for example), and everything else changes.
Let us try another route. Here is a photo, in its original resolution (10MB file size), taken with the Canon EOS 70D, from the site DPReview.com,
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.ga...813603&Signature=pmyXwtQ2d4TtXROo9/Q2uwfH69w=
I suggest that folks look at this on their own from different devices, draw their own inferences, and perhaps provide some feedback.
I just looked at that photo from Chrome on my Nexus 7 2013 and this phone (color set to movie mode). I think that the fine details in the hair, wrinkles in the guy's face, the wings on the purple costume, all look spectacular, with less matting and moire, from the GN3. The backlight on the Nexus does lend for a different viewing experience, but as far as native compression on that photo, I am not seeing it on this phone at all.
Here's another photo, just for kicks (macro shot),
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.ga...823691&Signature=1qsPty4pho4xKLglvILtUNJWENA=
After looking at the flower, especially the water drops on the far right petals, I'm completely happy with the fine details on this screen. It's pretty amazing.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know what everyone is saying. Like I understand what you guys are saying. But I'm asking WHY an older device (my s3) can handle showing images sharper, clearer, and better. It doesn't make sense to me. How the exact same file, can look like crap on a brand new note 3, and look gorgeous on my S3 and laptop. It's not just this image. It's pretty much every image that isn't the exact resolution of the screen. And it's annoying. I expected more.
Can anyone explain to me, (as shown in my screenshot comparison) why images on my note 3 are looking like that, versus my s3 and laptop? That's all im looking for here. An answer as to why the note 3 can't handle proper image processing.
Download This...
aplacetorest said:
I know what everyone is saying. Like I understand what you guys are saying. But I'm asking WHY an older device (my s3) can handle showing images sharper, clearer, and better. It doesn't make sense to me. How the exact same file, can look like crap on a brand new note 3, and look gorgeous on my S3 and laptop. It's not just this image. It's pretty much every image that isn't the exact resolution of the screen. And it's annoying. I expected more.
Can anyone explain to me, (as shown in my screenshot comparison) why images on my note 3 are looking like that, versus my s3 and laptop? That's all im looking for here. An answer as to why the note 3 can't handle proper image processing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Download this file to both devices, view it from the gallery in landscape mode, zoom in on just the petals so that the right ones with the water drops fill your screen, post each here. Just the SIII and Note 3, not the laptop. For the Note 3, I suggest from display settings choose screen mode as movie, select save, and deselect auto adjust screen tone. Shot below is from my Note 3.
To the OP:
It could very well be that the gallery version in our notes is different to that of the S3.
Try different gallery apps. One in particular that I like most is QuickPic. To me its faster and renders pictures a bit better than the stock Galaxy gallery apps.
skippyg said:
To the OP:
It could very well be that the gallery version in our notes is different to that of the S3.
Try different gallery apps. One in particular that I like most is QuickPic. To me its faster and renders pictures a bit better than the stock Galaxy gallery apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed, QuickPic is awesome. Also the viewer included with ES File Explorer, the AOSP gallery included with many of the roms on this site, and others are excellent alternatives.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
micmars said:
Agreed, QuickPic is awesome. Also the viewer included with ES File Explorer, the AOSP gallery included with many of the roms on this site, and others are excellent alternatives.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah im an avid QuickPic user, but no matter the gallery i use, the images still show like they do as i posted. Even 1920x1080 pictures. I can make another comparison shot if everyone likes. I just dont understand it.
Did i get a bad phone? Or is this just how its handled on the note 3?
I think the G2 still has the best camera by quite a margin if you know how to use it, and I haven't even tried 4k or other camera improvement mods. The only thing the HTC phones have on it is low light pictures, which I don't think most people do anyway.
The OIS helps a hell of a lot for someone like me that has a hand tremor that's really bad at times.
What's your opinion on the camera? I'd rather have my phone than a $200 point and shoot as long as I don't need to zoom.
Sent from my LG-D800 using xda app-developers app
it's good under a lot of conditions, but very, very slow. Until you mod it. Then it's all around slick.
I've compared it to a Samsung Galaxy S4 and Lenovo Vibe Z camera (with f/1.8 lens) and both were less precise by a wide margin and frequently had pictures ruined by hand shaking.
The OIS doesn't just counteract the visible shaking; it reduces micro-shakes that blur your pictures without you noticing them. As a result the accuracy of this camera is about 3 megapixels higher than normal (my estimate).
All this being said, it's still a cellphone camera, so it has major flaws. It has only an f/2.4 aperture, which is mediocre for a high-end phone (though OIS counters it a bit by reducing subject-motion blur). Movement and low-light photos get ruined often. And I disagree that these aren't common conditions.
here's a quick demonstration and proof of the sharpness difference between Samsung Galaxy S4 and LG G2:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Samsung Galaxy S4
LG G2
the top pic is what the S4's pic looked like when it did NOT get blurred by hand shaking. most pictures turned out worse than that.
Didn't the OIS not only kick in for videos? Just saying... Sounds like placebo to me. I don't shake much usually, but I get a lot of blur pics...
Sent from my LG G2 using Tapatalk
The stock camera is pretty good but I tried out Jishnu's cam mod and its great 4k is really beautiful though the 720p 120fps is very pixelated and imo not really usable. There's some features that are supposed to be included like HFR mode for front camera but I don't seem to have it for some reason.
nomad4ever said:
Didn't the OIS not only kick in for videos? Just saying... Sounds like placebo to me. I don't shake much usually, but I get a lot of blur pics...
Sent from my LG G2 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It works for video and picture.
Sent from my LG-D800 using xda app-developers app
TheNetwork said:
I think the G2 still has the best camera by quite a margin if you know how to use it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this should be posted on every page of every camera thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441127
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2444609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607744
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525655
mannequin said:
this should be posted on every page of every camera thread here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I second that
for me lg g2 has good camera and ios. lg g3 will better
Gesendet von meinem LG-D802 mit Tapatalk
mannequin said:
this should be posted on every page of every camera thread here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are there some tips to be shared?
I can get some seriously crisp photos and then crap for awhile.
I'm still all stock and the focusing is the worst I have ever experienced, no joke. Really.
Good at day, horrible at low light.
willowpc said:
Good at day, horrible at low light.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I find it to be significantly better at low light than my Samsung phones were. HTC is definitely better at night but terrible at day. Sam used to black out completely when the light got even slightly dim. On my g2 it at least tries to get somewhat of a picture without relying on flash which makes pictures an ugly blue.
Sent from my LG-D800 using xda app-developers app
TheNetwork said:
I find it to be significantly better at low light than my Samsung phones were.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks to optical stabilizer in G2 , I guess.
Can anyone compare it with the Nexus 5 camera experience?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
The g2 has a terrible camera. On a sunny day it works great but on an overcast day. Or around 6/7 pm when the sun is going down it's pure garbage. This camera take in almost no light. There's no reason why in my kitchen with my light on lets say a 5/10 brightness should pictures be almost black. On my lumia and iPhone 5s, hell even my iPhone 3gs the view finders were all still lit bright and pictures were taken basically how my eye saw them.
LG really screwed up on the camera . this phone would have been perfect if it wasn't for the poor view finder lag/low light . there should be no noise on a photo in reasonable light and there is no reason why an ISO of 200 produces a dark image indoors with dim lighting when my ancient iPhone 3gs takes a beter low light indoor shot . I hope the g3 is a better camera or I'm jumping back to Nokia and wp8.1
Sent from my LG-D800 using xda app-developers app
heres an exampe of the terrible light intake of this phone. first image is on the lumai 920 in normal mode at 200 iso the second image is on the g2 in normal mode on 200 iso. itsblurry but thats notthe problem bother were taken at 730 ish am in the same spot , i just woke up please excuse the mess also this is daylight coming in from the window behind me the room light was off
Sent from my LG-D800 using xda app-developers app[/QUOTE]
joeynox said:
The g2 has a terrible camera. On a sunny day it works great but on an overcast day. Or around 6/7 pm when the sun is going down it's pure garbage. This camera take in almost no light. There's no reason why in my kitchen with my light on lets say a 5/10 brightness should pictures be almost black. On my lumia and iPhone 5s, hell even my iPhone 3gs the view finders were all still lit bright and pictures were taken basically how my eye saw them.
LG really screwed up on the camera . this phone would have been perfect if it wasn't for the poor view finder lag/low light . there should be no noise on a photo in reasonable light and there is no reason why an ISO of 200 produces a dark image indoors with dim lighting when my ancient iPhone 3gs takes a beter low light indoor shot . I hope the g3 is a better camera or I'm jumping back to Nokia and wp8.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You really don't know nothing you're talking about. Fire up intelligent Auto mode and stop set iso to 200. G2 knows better what ISO it should make picture in. It has Snapdragon 800 under the hood which one is supposedly x1000 much smarter and x1000 times faster than your s****d brain :laugh:
Billy Madison said:
You really don't know nothing you're talking about. Fire up intelligent Auto mode and stop set iso to 200. G2 knows better what ISO it should make picture in. It has Snapdragon 800 under the hood which one is supposedly x1000 much smarter and x1000 times faster than your s****d brain :laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my IA is a dumb dumb. , the problem with IA is that the image will still have a high iso and have noise or be extremely soft. yes you are correct it will brighten the image but at the cost of image quality and noise.
joeynox said:
my IA is a dumb dumb. , the problem with IA is that the image will still have a high iso and have noise or be extremely soft. yes you are correct it will brighten the image but at the cost of image quality and noise.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, I see your point, you want stock camera to point-and-shoot and make descent pix. and I want stock player to play Adobe flash w/o any hassles. and someone want G2 to play music loud in stereo with BoomSound. That's why xda exists, there was not made a phone to be perfect from the box. maybe you may want to try some 3rd party cameras like http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.opencam https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.almalence.hdr_plus
Sorry, it's a little bit of a rant , I just can't believe google, how can they screw up the HDR+ mode so bad? The HDR+ makes the photos, specially the ones at night look amazing but it also makes the camera almost useless, it slow downs the camera/ phone and it takes like 4 seconds to take a single shot :/ and even worse if you take let's say 3 photos, it just queues the photo editing of the photos, so you have to wait 12 seconds to see the last pic you took.
Nexus 6p and pretty much all of the nexus phones (nexus 5, nexus 6) need the longest of any flagship I've tried to capture a HDR+ pic :/ , the galaxy s6, the LG G4, the iphone 6/6s you just snap a HDR picture and it's already on the gallery by the time you open it.
I love hdr+ and has been trying to flash it on every phone since N5 ?
Sent from a mobile gadget...
HDR+ makes a huge difference. It does a good Job..they do need to work on the app though
I think most of these posters have never used a phone outside of stock Android. I had the G4 and Note 5 before getting my 6P, and I can tell you that compared to the HDR modes of both LG and Samsung, the Google Camera HDR+ mode is truly awful. Yes it's a bit better than the non-HDR mode, but not by much. HDR on LG and Samsung makes a huge difference, and those images are almost instantly view-able.
Huh, this has not been my experience.
geoff5093 said:
I think most of these posters have never used a phone outside of stock Android. I had the G4 and Note 5 before getting my 6P, and I can tell you that compared to the HDR modes of both LG and Samsung, the Google Camera HDR+ mode is truly awful. Yes it's a bit better than the non-HDR mode, but not by much. HDR on LG and Samsung makes a huge difference, and those images are almost instantly view-able.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As a former S6 owner, the HDR results from Samsung are (majority of the time) over-processed and the picture, while high in dynamic range, looks unnatural. I've had great results with my 6P and HDR mode. The pictures come out with good dynamic range and they look a lot more natural.
What I mean is, its a small device with so many features. Not a DSLR? I think I'm a decent photographer and the camera on this phone is outstanding
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
daewond3r said:
As a former S6 owner, the HDR results from Samsung are (majority of the time) over-processed and the picture, while high in dynamic range, looks unnatural. I've had great results with my 6P and HDR mode. The pictures come out with good dynamic range and they look a lot more natural.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I strongly disagree, unless you think these shots from my Note 5 are "unnaturally overprocessed":
Untitled by Geoff Johnson, on Flickr
Untitled by Geoff Johnson, on Flickr
Subaru WRX STI by Geoff Johnson, on Flickr
The 6P photos come out dull most of the time. Here are some of my keepers from my 6P:
Untitled by Geoff Johnson, on Flickr
The LG G4 is definitely my favorite:
Untitled by Geoff Johnson, on Flickr
Untitled by Geoff Johnson, on Flickr
I'm not saying the 6P isn't good, it is for a Nexus definitely. I'm saying HDR mode doesn't even compare to that of LG and Samsung.
geoff5093 said:
I strongly disagree, unless you think these shots from my Note 5 are "unnaturally overprocessed":
The LG G4 is definitely my favorite
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most certainly without doubt over processed. Your N5/G4 pics do not resemble natural at all.... The world is not saturated like that. Just as all Samsung AMOLED displays are awfully over saturated. Just happy 6P has sRGB mode to lessen that effect.
HDR acceptable for low light, other than that it sucks, my opinion anyway. HDR is a novelty and compensation for the weakness of phone cameras. That is all it is. If you want real contrast, learn photography rather than touting how amazing the G4 is? My suggestion. I am not a photographer but have never been impressed by any phone camera vs an actual DSLR by an amateur enthusiast.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
zymphad said:
Most certainly without doubt over processed. Your N5/G4 pics do not resemble natural at all.... The world is not saturated like that. Just as all Samsung AMOLED displays are awfully over saturated. Just happy 6P has sRGB mode to lessen that effect.
HDR acceptable for low light, other than that it sucks, my opinion anyway. HDR is a novelty and compensation for the weakness of phone cameras. That is all it is. If you want real contrast, learn photography rather than touting how amazing the G4 is? My suggestion. I am not a photographer but have never been impressed by any phone camera vs an actual DSLR by an amateur enthusiast.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Completely false, you are just used to the dull photos from the Nexus. Have you ever been to a New England fall day? It's most definitely that saturated. These look very similar to how they look out of camera from my DSLR as well.
No one wants to look at 100% natural photos either, slightly saturated adds a nice look to photos to make them pop. There is a difference between over saturated and a good looking photo though.
HDR for low light? Do you know what HDR actually does? Low light is when you don't want to use it due to taking an over exposed shot in a dark shot will lead to excessive ISO and or blurred images.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
I live in New England and HDR are by definition over saturated contrast enhanced processed and IMO Samsung/LG are the worst. Apple probably the best. Real camera trumps them all. I prefer real life over saturated digital. Personally hope someday phone cameras will improve someday and HDR will be a terrible memory people will laugh thinking, people really thought HDR was a good idea?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
No doubt that camera app lack behind of Samsung, Apple and LG.
A couple posts removed. And I'll remind folks to post respectfully, or don't bother posting. :good:
Darth
Forum Moderator
zymphad said:
Most certainly without doubt over processed. Your N5/G4 pics do not resemble natural at all.... The world is not saturated like that. Just as all Samsung AMOLED displays are awfully over saturated. Just happy 6P has sRGB mode to lessen that effect.
HDR acceptable for low light, other than that it sucks, my opinion anyway. HDR is a novelty and compensation for the weakness of phone cameras. That is all it is. If you want real contrast, learn photography rather than touting how amazing the G4 is? My suggestion. I am not a photographer but have never been impressed by any phone camera vs an actual DSLR by an amateur enthusiast.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
geoff5093 said:
Completely false, you are just used to the dull photos from the Nexus. Have you ever been to a New England fall day? It's most definitely that saturated. These look very similar to how they look out of camera from my DSLR as well.
No one wants to look at 100% natural photos either, slightly saturated adds a nice look to photos to make them pop. There is a difference between over saturated and a good looking photo though.
HDR for low light? Do you know what HDR actually does? Low light is when you don't want to use it due to taking an over exposed shot in a dark shot will lead to excessive ISO and or blurred images.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also have to disagree. Although the camera on the 6p is better then the 6 which was better then the 5 etc its still far from "great"
The photos on my S6 were amazing and fast.
The software on the stock android for camera is horrible. The only reason i was excited for the 6p camera vs the S6 was the 240fps for slowmo and unless the sun is directly above you theres an absurd amount of noise PLUS you cant export the slomo video after you finish putting the slomo parts in so you can only view it on Google Photos otherwise the entire video is slow.
Everyone is missing op's point.
He/she is saying that it takes a long time for the app to do it's thing. To take the shot and process the image.
geoff5093 said:
I think most of these posters have never used a phone outside of stock Android. I had the G4 and Note 5 before getting my 6P, and I can tell you that compared to the HDR modes of both LG and Samsung, the Google Camera HDR+ mode is truly awful. Yes it's a bit better than the non-HDR mode, but not by much. HDR on LG and Samsung makes a huge difference, and those images are almost instantly view-able.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is entirely true. I bought myself a note 4 used along with a 128 gig card, since it was going cheap, took a HDR shot and its .. instantaneous. Zero wait time.. click, point and shoot and view a second later.
---------- Post added at 06:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:39 AM ----------
zymphad said:
Most certainly without doubt over processed. Your N5/G4 pics do not resemble natural at all.... The world is not saturated like that. Just as all Samsung AMOLED displays are awfully over saturated. Just happy 6P has sRGB mode to lessen that effect.
HDR acceptable for low light, other than that it sucks, my opinion anyway. HDR is a novelty and compensation for the weakness of phone cameras. That is all it is. If you want real contrast, learn photography rather than touting how amazing the G4 is? My suggestion. I am not a photographer but have never been impressed by any phone camera vs an actual DSLR by an amateur enthusiast.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All samsung phones also do have the ability to be switched to SRGB (basic display mode i think). It makes a LOT of difference, if you prefer your display to be flat like that.
---------- Post added at 06:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:44 AM ----------
dontbeweakvato said:
Everyone is missing op's point.
He/she is saying that it takes a long time for the app to do it's thing. To take the shot and process the image.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pretty much this.
It does take a long time to process the photo. My G3 never took this long but HDR works better then my G3 for pulling up the shadows. But I rarely use it on any phones and the times I've used it, I was pretty happy with the results that I tested. I've done it a few times on my DSLR manually but I don't do it much.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
You do realize that the HDR+ in Google's camera app does a lot more than just a regular HDR mode??? http://petapixel.com/2014/10/30/look-googles-impressive-hdr-feature-latest-nexus-phone-cameras/
It takes a lot to pull off the shots that this camera can take. BTW, I have a Note 4 and the 6p is definitely better. Also, if you dislike HDR so much, then just turn it off!
z06mike said:
You do realize that the HDR+ in Google's camera app does a lot more than just a regular HDR mode??? http://petapixel.com/2014/10/30/look-googles-impressive-hdr-feature-latest-nexus-phone-cameras/
It takes a lot to pull off the shots that this camera can take. BTW, I have a Note 4 and the 6p is definitely better. Also, if you dislike HDR so much, then just turn it off!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do realize that such comments are useless?? Who cares what Google's hdr does. It doesn't take a genius to realize their camera app is simple junk. It is like 10 years behind Apple and Samsung and it will probably keep being that way as long as there are users like you that will justify them no matter what.
Disagree completely, I have the note 5, and some how the 6p is taking less blurry and equally sick photos
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Though this upload doesn't do justice, and its 6pm
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Here are some some daytime shots comparisons with an Lg G4. Just move the slider to view one photo or the other...
https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxt...html?uid=e13a233a-e5dc-11e5-a524-0e7075bba956
https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxt...html?uid=aba32694-e5dd-11e5-a524-0e7075bba956
https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxt...html?uid=cbcf4704-e5dd-11e5-a524-0e7075bba956
P.S. Sorry if they are out of place here. If so, admins feel free to delete this post.
thanks
the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
icugotit2 said:
the s7 seems to capture more detail and better color reproduction. pics on g4 seem very smooth, lacking detail.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
Wow! The Edge does so much better! Way to much brightness and less detail on the G4.
There is a bit too much sharpening on the third comparison on the Edge side, but it still looks better than the G4 that is kind of blurry.
VictorC said:
Actually, if you look at the first comparison, I do think the S7 Edge camera is too aggressive with contrast and sharpening (and it is less saturated than Samsung has accustomed us) - try right-click and open image in new tab too see the full resolution pics. The G4 got colors and setting more true too real life in that one, but still, those shortcomings from the S7E are not deal breakers and could be easily addressed with camera updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When looking at full screen colours on the cars are better on the g4 for picture number 1. However, I really feel the contrast and white balance are better on the s7. Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
icugotit2 said:
Case in the point the cloud overcast is not visible on the g4. The picture seems a bit hazy.
Or maybe its just me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good point. On the other hand, in the same picture the S7E missed the different colour of the sky/clouds at the end of the alleyway, trough the branches. The next comparison shows similar stuff - in the one with the statue - the G4 captures more of the color in the sky (actually closer to what it was in reality). While in the third one both are similar sky-wise.
Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a
---------- Post added at 09:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 AM ----------
Hi guys
finally got my S7 Edge last night. My main usage is photo. I did some tests against my Note 4. The S7 definitely shows much less details when you download pics to a computer! I did take photos of all kind and this morning under a nice sun, it is more evident. Branches on trees don't show much detail and look all blured when you zoom. I did see that last night when taking pictures of documentation with both phones. Text when zoomed at 100 per cent looked like a pixel jam on some pages with the S7 under artificial light when Note 4 camera showed tac sharp text.
However in poor light, the S7 is tremendous! But usually I sleep at night and that kind of photos is about 15 per cent of them all...
So I am a little disapointed in that regard with the S7. Videos are great, but photos lack of details. I don-t understand why Samsung has choosen to reduce the number of pixel in place of opting for a bigger sensor like Panasonic did with the CM1. I would have loved to see a CM2! Their 20MPx was producing better results than most dedicated cameras!
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(just realized that the site does not show original pîcs... so you cannot zoom...)
Anyway out of some software bugs with the S7 (Samsung mail crashed in loops and Play Store kept saying data in background need to be activated when they were already... each time solved by a restart, the S7 is a nice piece of technology.
:good:
Phil
Took a picture of our new Pup, first picture using the the S7 edge.
Impressed with how awesome it came out, just used a tool to blur the background around him.
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Those of us coming from less than spectacular cameras, such as me (HTC one m8), I'm finding the camera incredibly awesome. I got this phone mainly for the camera. The focus is super quick, the color reproduction is very good and I do enjoy the pro more the Galaxy S7 offers.
Were this pictures taken with manual or auto mode on G4, since my son had a G4 and it's auto mode really sucks.
Getting excited .. wish it's 18th now that I can take my hands on this beast..
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Loss of detail in normal/good light conditions vs Note 4 / S5
S7 camera looks a bit over sharpened for my taste at the same time there is more details in every picture (shooting raw will be a solution for this).
Colors looks better and more realistic on the S7 (not knowing how the original scene looks), but the first shot is a bit too much contrast.
Overall the S7 is the better camera in this shootout.
pogi.paul0119 said:
It's confirmed that samsung uses 2 camera sensors ( again ) .. if anyone can post comparisons of two sensors (sony vs. samsung) is greatly appreciated.
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i saw an article in GSM arena wherein they compared the Sony and Samsung Sensors and theres no much difference.. they are both good in different aspects
Front facing camera focus issue
Anyone else have issues with the front facing camera not focusing?
Here are two pictures as examples, one with the front facing and the other with the rear camera
This shooter is top notch. Love the Pro mode. That's the killer app I've been waiting for from Samsung or Android. The manual controls are easy to toggle and the snappy hardware enhances the experience.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
Please Samsung, ease down on the artificial image sharpening: youtube.com/watch?v=OR5UziCqXew
Have anyone tried 10 sek shutter by hand? Is it possible to hold it still enough?
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Photo quality is one of the worst I've seen on a smartphone. I'm way too disappointed, honestly pixel 2 camera beats the crap out of note 10 plus camera. Is it too much to ask for a good bokeh photo? I mean everyone is doing it great WITHOUT the TOF sensor. Does it even work on the phone? I felt like crying when I took my first image on the phone. One would expect the live focus would be matured by now but cheap Chinese phones give you better live focus effects. The wide angle is completely unusable, distorted (after enabling the correction) and grainy. The photo quality is garbage during all lighting conditions except daylight and outdoors. How did Samsung have the audacity to market it as a content creators phone?
I don’t have any of the problems that you mentioned. After your first photo, instead of crying you should have returned it immediately.
cyanotrix said:
Photo quality is one of the worst I've seen on a smartphone. I'm way too disappointed, honestly pixel 2 camera beats the crap out of note 10 plus camera. Is it too much to ask for a good bokeh photo? I mean everyone is doing it great WITHOUT the TOF sensor. Does it even work on the phone? I felt like crying when I took my first image on the phone. One would expect the live focus would be matured by now but cheap Chinese phones give you better live focus effects. The wide angle is completely unusable, distorted (after enabling the correction) and grainy. The photo quality is garbage during all lighting conditions except daylight and outdoors. How did Samsung have the audacity to market it as a content creators phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I absolutely agree. My s10+ that I traded was a beast at night photos. Now my Note 10+ looks like pictures were taken from a laptop cam. So grainy and blurry at night or even during the day unless it's outside in a very nicely light place. Someone was saying some cases might cause this issue but I tried it without a case and no difference. Clearing cache and storage with rebooting does not help either. Mine is unlocked and the pictures were bad when i was on the U1 firmware and now I am t-mobile firmware and no difference. I am thinking about calling Samsung and asking for replacement. It seems this issue has been happening ever since the s8. A lot of complaints with the Note 9 too.
I feel regret for trading in my perfect s10+
I'm really not sure whether it's a faulty device or just very poor camera quality, but although sharp, my photos in ideal conditions come out lifeless and washed out enough that multiple people commented on it...And that's coming from OP6T, so not exactly huge expectations...I came here to see if it's the same for everyone, or if it's something to return the device for or if there's a software fix...
ok either i have another device and got scammed with note 10 +sticker on the box or something really wrong with your devices guys !!!
the photo and video quality is superb on this phone. the only area were my previous p30 pro shines over it is the night time and still very decent performer !
rialsi6 said:
I don’t have any of the problems that you mentioned. After your first photo, instead of crying you should have returned it immediately.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not a faulty hardware and had pre booked so cannot return. It's pure garbage that's all.
---------- Post added at 02:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:24 PM ----------
protech_v2 said:
I'm really not sure whether it's a faulty device or just very poor camera quality, but although sharp, my photos in ideal conditions come out lifeless and washed out enough that multiple people commented on it...And that's coming from OP6T, so not exactly huge expectations...I came here to see if it's the same for everyone, or if it's something to return the device for or if there's a software fix...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just the way it is. All the vloggers either have been bought off or they know jack**** about vlogging camera quality. They don't even know what they're doing half the time and the other half they just copy from each other. It could easily be fixed by good software.
cyanotrix said:
Not a faulty hardware and had pre booked so cannot return. It's pure garbage that's all.
---------- Post added at 02:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:24 PM ----------
Just the way it is. All the vloggers either have been bought off or they know jack**** about vlogging camera quality. They don't even know what they're doing half the time and the other half they just copy from each other. It could easily be fixed by good software.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Operator's technical problem
Not even a sample photo,Mouth complaining
zjhao said:
Operator's technical problem
Not even a sample photo,Mouth complaining
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would love to, but XDA app says bad request when I try to attach an image.
I really do not know what device are the both complainers talking about, the camera is excelent, chinese cheap phones are by no means better than note's camera, so, only god knows what are you holding in your hands, or how you are using it
Takes great photos to me.
Most seem to havd hdr on. So moving shortly after taking a photo gives a blured photo. But other then that.
Great photos
Coming from a Pixel 3 XL (and previously a 2 XL), the overall image quality is a noticeable step down for me (Note10+ photos seem granier, blurrier, smudgier, etc.), but the versatility of the Note10+'s cameras are unmatched. The versatility alone is enough for me to sacrifice some image quality.
Video is a no contest. The Note10+ video capabilities puts the 3 XL to shame. However, Live Focus Video is atrocious and needs a lot of improvement.
Live Focus for portrait photos is mediocre at best. It softens way too much at the higher blur levels, to the point where the subject and background turn out smudgy and seem to 'melt' into one. Granted, I have taken a handful of good Live Focus photos, but the 3 XL's Portrait Mode is hands-down superior imho.
I have also noticed the shutter speed to be slightly slower on the Note10+ compared to the 3 XL, as I seem to capture more blurry shots of my 3yo son with the Note10+.
Quick question for everyone. Do you guys have HDR always enabled? I do, so I'm wondering if this is contributing to the slower shutter speed/lag.
Some of you guys must have clones because the camera on my Note 10 plus is superb! Plenty of comparison videos on youtube also where it gets praise! I cant say i see a big difference between this and the s10+ but theres no way in hell that its worse! You guys either got scammed or your devices are faulty!
Blaalad12 said:
Some of you guys must have clones because the camera on my Note 10 plus is superb! Plenty of comparison videos on youtube also where it gets praise! I cant say i see a big difference between this and the s10+ but theres no way in hell that its worse! You guys either got scammed or your devices are faulty!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree completely
Blaalad12 said:
Some of you guys must have clones because the camera on my Note 10 plus is superb! Plenty of comparison videos on youtube also where it gets praise! I cant say i see a big difference between this and the s10+ but theres no way in hell that its worse! You guys either got scammed or your devices are faulty!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly so
Nic
Blaalad12 said:
Some of you guys must have clones because the camera on my Note 10 plus is superb! Plenty of comparison videos on youtube also where it gets praise! I cant say i see a big difference between this and the s10+ but theres no way in hell that its worse! You guys either got scammed or your devices are faulty!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree... I keep doing more and more tests and honestly i am even impressed by photos in the dark with the normal (wide angle) lens..
However there is some stuff not working well, like portrait mode in the dark, too grainy, probably due to the apperture. Need to use wide angle lens for dark situations.
I find it amazing to read complaints but none posts examples about it with the settings used.
Perhaps it has something to do with Qualcomm's processing vs Exynos? It seems Exynos Note 10 people are happy with quality and at least one of the two people in this thread with image quality issue is using Snapdragon Note 10 plus
Mine, too me at least seems good. I have snapdragon version, and maybe it's just me coming from my note 8? Hopefully these come through clear... The night shot was just on regular mode
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sent from my Note 10+ using Tapatalk
The note 8 camera is indeed really good, this note10+ is just plain excellent, that's it