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Hi guys.
I found today at local retailer Atrix with Laptop dock at a price of 370€.
http://www.electroworld.sk/product/...ily/MOTATRIXLAP/motorola-atrix-mobil-lap-dock
I have a HTC Desire Z for almost a year now and would like to upgrade.
Is this a good choice? It's a better hw, I pretty love the webtop idea.
It's not Asus PadPhone (I will miss a tablet possibility), but I will get instead a laptop and hdmi+bt keyboard+touchpad comfort.
My questions to the Atrix community are:
1) is it possible to get HDMI + bluetooth keyboard with touchpad working without any hacks? Just out of the box?
2) what are the news about ICS upgrade? I have seen som official motorola page that said it's in "evaluation", but the US version has a plan for Q2(3?) Also some webtop 3.0 video is on youtube (think from RAZR)
3) are there any glitches that I should be aware before buying? What makes you feel so bad, you would not buy it now?
4) any other useful user experiences
Thanks a lot.
I dont know all the answers, but from my experience:
1.- Works on ICS betas, have never tried it with the GB based ROMS
2.- There is a good chance the official ICS will be out in the next 2-3 months from Moto. The video is from a Razr ICS leak showing that it essentially is done away with Webtop as it was, and now runs ICS full screen.
3.- I've had the device for 3-4 months now I guess, coming off a I4. I have been playing with Android OS since the nook color got hacked to run it, and run it on a HP Touchpad as well as the nook color and now my Atrix. My only caveat with the Atrix is I really dislike the power button location. That said, I just setup to use my volume rocker to wake the device, and so I rarely hit the power button at all anymore.
4.- Current ICS betas are all quite nice, but the things that dont work can be irritating. The main issue for myself was browser rotation and video camera support being slow/inconsistent. I have used Neutrino ROM and stock CM7 and liked them both. I prefer Neutrino these days because I like a clean minimalistic OS, but your mileage may vary there. That said once ICS is out in force and drivers are updated, I will be hauling ass to ICS as I prefer it a LOT more than GB.
sorgo said:
Hi guys.
1) is it possible to get HDMI + bluetooth keyboard with touchpad working without any hacks? Just out of the box?
2) what are the news about ICS upgrade? I have seen som official motorola page that said it's in "evaluation", but the US version has a plan for Q2(3?) Also some webtop 3.0 video is on youtube (think from RAZR)
3) are there any glitches that I should be aware before buying? What makes you feel so bad, you would not buy it now?
4) any other useful user experiences
Thanks a lot.
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Use unlocked Atrix 4G from canada in india
(Sorry to hijack the thread. I need to decide very quickly and cant start a new thread as i'm a new member)
Hi All,
I'm planning to buy a unlocked Atrix 4G from canada and use it in India.
(my cousin will be coming from canada in few days)
I got the online deal from newegg.ca at $360. (still a new member so cant paste link here)
Here are few questions I have:
1. I'm pretty sure it is a good deal, but can someone confirm if its worth buying at apprx $360 ?
2. Apart from no radio, does it have any other major cons that I should be aware of?
3. I love to flash/root my phones for complete customizations, i've seen a lot of really cool custom roms in the Atrix 4G forum here. But in some forums I read the bootloader is locked for some phones. my question is, is already unlocked for a unlocked phone? if not, is it easily unlockable?
4. (Dumb question at last ) Will there be official ICS update for Atrix 4G? I dont plan on using the official one, but I hope there will be enough awesome custom roms based on official one.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Arpit
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Config specs of Atrix 4G seem pretty capable to run all kind of high graphic games.
Just want to confirm if it has no issues running any games.
I currently own a Sony Xperia Ray, I like it but after getting very disappointed with the ICS update this phone got, I have been thinking of replacing it, and now I have the chance to do it because my father needs a smartphone for work, and I can just give him my Ray and buy a new one for me.
Anyway, since it's quite an old phone, I was wondering if it's still worth it. I had the chance to try it a few days ago from a friend of mine, his SGSII had some AOKP rom installed and it seemed very fast and bug-free. I did not like the screen very much, since I'm used to the sharp screen Ray has, the screen seemed a bit more pixelated, and also I noticed a blueish tint on white backgrounds.
Anyway, here are my questions:
Which one is the latest official firmware available for it? I heard it's 4.0.4 but I'm not sure. After the giant disappointment I got with Sony, I'd be happier to know it has at least the latest version of ICS right now. I have a thing against homebrew roms and would avoid them if possible, no offence intended to all the talented developers of XDA. I like to keep the stock firmware and just add mods and tweaks to it.
Also, how do you like the stock interface available for it in the latest official firmware? Do you think it's very obsolete or flawed? How does it compare to the one on the SIII?
Do you think there is anything that pushes the SGSII to it's limits and makes you think it's not powerful enough? I often get this feeling on my Ray, especially in the browser and some games. I kind of like some Gameloft games for Android but they don't run as well as I'd like them to on my Ray.
Do you think the low resolution of the screen is a big limitation? Do movies look good on it? I am a bit underwhelmed by the screen on the SGSII, especially after trying the Xperia S, which has an utterly amazing screen.
I assume it's safe to say that Sammy won't update it to Jelly Bean, right?
That's all I guess. Feel free to recommend me another phone if you think the SII is not worth it in 2012. I can't spend much more than what the SII costs though (around 380€ new here).
MarkMRL said:
I currently own a Sony Xperia Ray, I like it but after getting very disappointed with the ICS update this phone got, I have been thinking of replacing it, and now I have the chance to do it because my father needs a smartphone for work, and I can just give him my Ray and buy a new one for me.
Anyway, since it's quite an old phone, I was wondering if it's still worth it. I had the chance to try it a few days ago from a friend of mine, his SGSII had some AOKP rom installed and it seemed very fast and bug-free. I did not like the screen very much, since I'm used to the sharp screen Ray has, the screen seemed a bit more pixelated, and also I noticed a blueish tint on white backgrounds.
Anyway, here are my questions:
Which one is the latest official firmware available for it? I heard it's 4.0.4 but I'm not sure. After the giant disappointment I got with Sony, I'd be happier to know it has at least the latest version of ICS right now. I have a thing against homebrew roms and would avoid them if possible, no offence intended to all the talented developers of XDA. I like to keep the stock firmware and just add mods and tweaks to it.
Also, how do you like the stock interface available for it in the latest official firmware? Do you think it's very obsolete or flawed? How does it compare to the one on the SIII?
Do you think there is anything that pushes the SGSII to it's limits and makes you think it's not powerful enough? I often get this feeling on my Ray, especially in the browser and some games. I kind of like some Gameloft games for Android but they don't run as well as I'd like them to on my Ray.
Do you think the low resolution of the screen is a big limitation? Do movies look good on it? I am a bit underwhelmed by the screen on the SGSII, especially after trying the Xperia S, which has an utterly amazing screen.
I assume it's safe to say that Sammy won't update it to Jelly Bean, right?
That's all I guess. Feel free to recommend me another phone if you think the SII is not worth it in 2012. I can't spend much more than what the SII costs though (around 380€ new here).
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the latest official firmware is XXLQ5 (android 4.0.4) available on samfirmware.com
and with ur budjet i think s2 is the best option for u
Look at this phone specs! Compare to all 2011''s Sony. This new phone will come with JB.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-e/specifications/
marcusasdrubal said:
Look at this phone specs! Compare to all 2011''s Sony. This new phone will come with JB.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-e/specifications/
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That's what I wrote on Facebook,besides the ad about Xperia E.
I don't think it will change anything,but we all "geeks" must understand our power to advise our friends about technology!
So,another single core product running Jelly Bean.
So dual core devices ARE NOT required - either for ICS or JB.
I have a Neo V and I am stuck with an ICS version with lots of bugs.
So,what your company says:
Buy a new Xperia Phone.
What I say? Buy another brand.
What companies don't realise is that you lose the "tech freak" customers. And guess what? The tech freaks are the ones that most people ask for their opinion before buying a new phone.
So,you didn't lose only me,but lots of my friends.
And that is why companies like Sony keep rolling down.
Very disappointed by Sony.
myweca said:
That's what I wrote on Facebook,besides the ad about Xperia E.
I don't think it will change anything,but we all "geeks" must understand our power to advise our friends about technology!
So,another single core product running Jelly Bean.
So dual core devices ARE NOT required - either for ICS or JB.
I have a Neo V and I am stuck with an ICS version with lots of bugs.
So,what your company says:
Buy a new Xperia Phone.
What I say? Buy another brand.
What companies don't realise is that you lose the "tech freak" customers. And guess what? The tech freaks are the ones that most people ask for their opinion before buying a new phone.
So,you didn't lose only me,but lots of my friends.
And that is why companies like Sony keep rolling down.
Very disappointed by Sony.
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Firstly, bold text is just a sore to the eyes and no one appriciates it however good your motives must have been.
Now back on topic,
Honestly, I personally dont know any "tech-freak" who settles for something except a flagship device.
So whats your point?
Also, Sony wants to make profit. They are a loss if they keep updating old phones.
To me, it is a logical decision.
I mean, anyone would have done the same thing.
So, there's absolutely no point in crying about it.
At east we got ICS. Samsung Galaxy S didnt even get that.
So be happy and chill.
DeathCzar said:
Firstly, bold text is just a sore to the eyes and no one appriciates it however good your motives must have been.
Now back on topic,
Honestly, I personally dont know any "tech-freak" who settles for something except a flagship device.
So whats your point?
Also, Sony wants to make profit. They are a loss if they keep updating old phones.
To me, it is a logical decision.
I mean, anyone would have done the same thing.
So, there's absolutely no point in crying about it.
At east we got ICS. Samsung Galaxy S didnt even get that.
So be happy and chill.
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Not even Galaxy S+ didn't get ICS.
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marcusasdrubal said:
Look at this phone specs! Compare to all 2011''s Sony. This new phone will come with JB.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-e/specifications/
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Really? 320x480 pixels and 3.2 mpx camera? Lol i'd never trade my Neo for this phone even if it will come with Android 12.
DeathCzar said:
Firstly, bold text is just a sore to the eyes and no one appriciates it however good your motives must have been.
Now back on topic,
Honestly, I personally dont know any "tech-freak" who settles for something except a flagship device.
So whats your point?
Also, Sony wants to make profit. They are a loss if they keep updating old phones.
To me, it is a logical decision.
I mean, anyone would have done the same thing.
So, there's absolutely no point in crying about it.
At east we got ICS. Samsung Galaxy S didnt even get that.
So be happy and chill.
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Galaxy S did not receive officialy ICS, but the JB custom version of Galaxy S is better than our. They have a 3.x Kernel. Their team released a 3.x kernel, a jb rom with full butter. V-Sync is enabled. Triple bufffering is enabled. Then Yes, Galaxy S is better than our phone. Because Sony Stock Rom sucks.
marcusasdrubal said:
Galaxy S did not receive officialy ICS, but the JB custom version of Galaxy S is better than our. They have a 3.x Kernel. Their team released a 3.x kernel, a jb rom with full butter. V-Sync is enabled. Triple bufffering is enabled. Then Yes, Galaxy S is better than our phone. Because Sony Stock Rom sucks.
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Ok,then is only one solution:get a Galaxy S It's not Sony's fault that Galaxy S has more devs on xda..You know that Sony was amongst the first few OEM that released ICS,right? No one forced you to buy Sony Ericsson. Stop complaining and create 8.xx kernel and your own rom based on whatever you want.:silly:
marcusasdrubal said:
Galaxy S did not receive officialy ICS, but the JB custom version of Galaxy S is better than our. They have a 3.x Kernel. Their team released a 3.x kernel, a jb rom with full butter. V-Sync is enabled. Triple bufffering is enabled. Then Yes, Galaxy S is better than our phone. Because Sony Stock Rom sucks.
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Did u just say team?
Do you think devs get paid to do it?
Are you serious?
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I have Neo V and thanks to FXP i have a good JB Rom on my device. If you don't play state of the art games your phone phone is smooth in CM10 from FXP. It will be a plus to have Kernel 3 but is not a must for me. I am happy with FXP releasses.
DeathCzar said:
Firstly, bold text is just a sore to the eyes and no one appriciates it however good your motives must have been.
Now back on topic,
Honestly, I personally dont know any "tech-freak" who settles for something except a flagship device.
So whats your point?
Also, Sony wants to make profit. They are a loss if they keep updating old phones.
To me, it is a logical decision.
I mean, anyone would have done the same thing.
So, there's absolutely no point in crying about it.
At east we got ICS. Samsung Galaxy S didnt even get that.
So be happy and chill.
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thats the point sony has given us a ics update......dont go for sammy..ir other they r worst than sony
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marcusasdrubal said:
Galaxy S did not receive officialy ICS, but the JB custom version of Galaxy S is better than our. They have a 3.x Kernel. Their team released a 3.x kernel, a jb rom with full butter. V-Sync is enabled. Triple bufffering is enabled. Then Yes, Galaxy S is better than our phone. Because Sony Stock Rom sucks.
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if u want 3.x kernel make it yourself
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Waiting for the release of stock jb rom for xperia,I think 1st should be xperia t,then skilled xda-er will port it to our devices.
Nothing will change n useless to create a rubbish thread...
Sony gave us ICS (for Neo V) before others, but it is laggy and full of bloat ware. I removed 85 bloat ware from it and my phone became quite smooth, but not satisfied with that also, I am using custom ROM and it is very smooth and much better than Sony. I will say xda-developers are better than Sony, so forget stock ROM and go for better ones.
Sent from Neo V, rooted and locked bootloader.
That's what everyone here already do or atleast try to do!
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DeathCzar said:
Firstly, bold text is just a sore to the eyes and no one appriciates it however good your motives must have been.
Now back on topic,
Honestly, I personally dont know any "tech-freak" who settles for something except a flagship device.
So whats your point?
Also, Sony wants to make profit. They are a loss if they keep updating old phones.
To me, it is a logical decision.
I mean, anyone would have done the same thing.
So, there's absolutely no point in crying about it.
At east we got ICS. Samsung Galaxy S didnt even get that.
So be happy and chill.
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So,in order to be considered a real tech-freak,you must always buy the most expensive phone and keep changing it for a newer device?
Really? How much money do you make? I live in Greece, the minimum salary is 580 Euros and Samsung Galaxy S III costs 700 Euros.
I am sorry, but from what you are saying, I will never be considered a tech-freak.
I never said it isn't a logical decision. It is a marketing decision. A pure marketing decision. And since I am a consumer, I am free to consider that Sony cheats its clients. I will not be satisfied with an extremely buggy ICS rom, and I will not be satisfied by reading silly things, that our Neo V can't run JB, but Xperia E can.
The marketing team has made it's point, but I am not one of the consumers who say "at least..." but from the consumers that say "you must...". Maybe I am a difficult client, but it is my right, and it is my right to say to all of my friends never to buy a Sony phone!
Damn... 7227a??? thats actually arm v6 instructions....thats garbage...4 years old chipset....
really bad!!!
LeoSquizz said:
Damn... 7227a??? thats actually arm v6 instructions....thats garbage...4 years old chipset....
really bad!!!
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well our chip is considered garbage by today's standard too
Sony is aiming different customer type. This phone will be cheaper then others and less rich people can buy it.
LeoSquizz said:
Damn... 7227a??? thats actually arm v6 instructions....thats garbage...4 years old chipset....
really bad!!!
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7227a is a 45nm arm v7 CPU.
First sample on Q4 2011
myweca said:
So,in order to be considered a real tech-freak,you must always buy the most expensive phone and keep changing it for a newer device?
Really? How much money do you make? I live in Greece, the minimum salary is 580 Euros and Samsung Galaxy S III costs 700 Euros.
I am sorry, but from what you are saying, I will never be considered a tech-freak.
I never said it isn't a logical decision. It is a marketing decision. A pure marketing decision. And since I am a consumer, I am free to consider that Sony cheats its clients. I will not be satisfied with an extremely buggy ICS rom, and I will not be satisfied by reading silly things, that our Neo V can't run JB, but Xperia E can.
The marketing team has made it's point, but I am not one of the consumers who say "at least..." but from the consumers that say "you must...". Maybe I am a difficult client, but it is my right, and it is my right to say to all of my friends never to buy a Sony phone!
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Good luck finding another brand really. Fyi Sony is xda's OEM of the year. Samsung and LG are not known for updating their phones on time or at all. You pay for what you get, and xperia j and e are known to be extremely laggy. My 2 cents.
Sent from my soon-to-be bricked Neo V
jasonwsc said:
Good luck finding another brand really. Fyi Sony is xda's OEM of the year. Samsung and LG are not known for updating their phones on time or at all. You pay for what you get, and xperia j and e are known to be extremely laggy. My 2 cents.
Sent from my soon-to-be bricked Neo V
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+2000000000000000000000 and counting:highfive:
if u wan update sue sony in consumer forum
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Well, this day should come soon or later.
I had a chance for trading my Xperia Ray for a phone with similar specifications, and I did.
I own now a LG Optimus Black (white version). If you guys check the specs of both phones you'll note that they're very similar, with only few differences. I miss the great quality of the camera, Optimus camera is crappy. But what I like most of this phone is the bigger screen and the unlocked bootloader, thanks to it I could install and taste (at last) Jelly Bean. Everything is working in a CM10 based ROM, the performance is very good, but the battery drain is a little bit faster than ICS, I guess this is caused by project butter.
That's why I don't understand why SONY won't give JB to our 2011 Xperias. I just can't believe that custom ROMs built by the community and devs are so good enough to use them daily, but SONY engineers can't (or don't want) to give Android 4.1 to Arc, Neo, Ray, etc. That has disappointed me a lot and it was one of the reasons to take the decision of trading my phone.
However, I still want to give a chance to SONY because, after all, I'm a fan and I love their devices (if you ask me, what I really like of this LG I own now is the unlocked bootloader and the screen, the physical design is ugly, so "iphoned"), so I'm waiting for CES this january 7th and see what they have to offer. I hope they don't disappoint us, and now SONY have to work harder since a new strong competitor is on his way: Ubuntu Phone. It really looks interesting, plus, I'm a Linux fan since 2004 and I've seen how this great system has evolved, until the point of being almost ready for smartphones. But I also love Android, so, we'll see.
Anyway guys, I can't say definitely "bye", I'm sure we'll meet again in some point, of course, If I decide to get another Xperia and if you also do and keep developing for these devices. For now I want to thank great developers such JJ doctor, MrTapa, arcatarc, xparanoidx, and everyone else (sorry if I don't mention all of you) for rescuing me of being stuck in Android 2.3.4 =P I learned a lot while I had my Ray and I was happy using 4.0.4 ROMs, your work is awesome and this community is just great.
So, see you later!
PS: pending projects (such banners and wallpapers) will be accomplished in sometime of the current year. Sorry about that, my free time is smaller now.
PS2: I post this here because most of the time I was in this section. But if moderators consider it's necesary to move it, OK.
El Brillantinas said:
Well, this day should come soon or later.
I had a chance for trading my Xperia Ray for a phone with similar specifications, and I did.
I own now a LG Optimus Black (white version). If you guys check the specs of both phones you'll note that they're very similar, with only few differences. I miss the great quality of the camera, Optimus camera is crappy. But what I like most of this phone is the bigger screen and the unlocked bootloader, thanks to it I could install and taste (at last) Jelly Bean. Everything is working in a CM10 based ROM, the performance is very good, but the battery drain is a little bit faster than ICS, I guess this is caused by project butter.
That's why I don't understand why SONY won't give JB to our 2011 Xperias. I just can't believe that custom ROMs built by the community and devs are so good enough to use them daily, but SONY engineers can't (or don't want) to give Android 4.1 to Arc, Neo, Ray, etc. That has disappointed me a lot and it was one of the reasons to take the decision of trading my phone.
However, I still want to give a chance to SONY because, after all, I'm a fan and I love their devices (if you ask me, what I really like of this LG I own now is the unlocked bootloader and the screen, the physical design is ugly, so "iphoned"), so I'm waiting for CES this january 7th and see what they have to offer. I hope they don't disappoint us, and now SONY have to work harder since a new strong competitor is on his way: Ubuntu Phone. It really looks interesting, plus, I'm a Linux fan since 2004 and I've seen how this great system has evolved, until the point of being almost ready for smartphones. But I also love Android, so, we'll see.
Anyway guys, I can't say definitely "bye", I'm sure we'll meet again in some point, of course, If I decide to get another Xperia and if you also do and keep developing for these devices. For now I want to thank great developers such JJ doctor, MrTapa, arcatarc, xparanoidx, and everyone else (sorry if I don't mention all of you) for rescuing me of being stuck in Android 2.3.4 =P I learned a lot while I had my Ray and I was happy using 4.0.4 ROMs, your work is awesome and this community is just great.
So, see you later!
PS: pending projects (such banners and wallpapers) will be accomplished in sometime of the current year. Sorry about that, my free time is smaller now.
PS2: I post this here because most of the time I was in this section. But if moderators consider it's necesary to move it, OK.
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...i'm sure you'll back bro'!
Inviato da me!
Moved to General section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066898
bye.
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
bazzanaja said:
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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its tough call on which device is easier to root...
as far as developer support is concerned, I for one hope to get the Z2, the FreeXperia team (CM devs) [they get devices directly from Sony] will be supporting it, so there will be official CM support, AOSP/AKOP will be supported [Sony gives devices to these devs too]... other than these there would be a lot of other devs also picking up this phone... so that should give you a good idea...
BTW, in general, Sony devices have lesser developer support as compared to other flagships of HTC & Samsung...
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bazzanaja said:
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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If u wanna phone or device for developing nothing can replace by Nexus or GPE devices
btw famous custom roms are supported for almost of sony and htc and also samsung devices.
and rooting; as u know almost of time u don't need to do anything for rooting ur android. there always a tool from devs that u use some keys and done!
and suggest u to go for xperia z2 (generally cause i will go for it )
Most likely the HTC M8.
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i havent owned any HTC or Sony devices, but their rooting instructions are somewhat complicated comparing to Samsung, not sure where you are getting that Samsungs are hard to root/unlock. Now, they all can be rooted. just that Sony and HTC are a little harder because:
Sony have a protected system partition where it stores its camera drivers, you might have to restore that partition after rooting/unlocking the bootloader, so to install custom ROM you required extra steps and AFAIK the camera wont work the same due to the lack of drivers in custom roms.
HTC they have some extra security for their bootloader it seems (S-ON/S-OFF, google that) but they support most custom ROMs. Just gotta deal with that BS.
Samsung, their main issue is their Qualcom drivers are closed source, so you might have a buggy bluetooth/camera/video driver at first until some devs are able port/improve the original driver to use with AOSP (kind of).
Just got rid of my S4 one month ago since my job got my an iPhone :crying: I am going to get the Z2 even if they dont have as much custom ROM love as the others, but I am tired of Samsung already. Im thinking of either replacing my Nexus 5 or get rid of the iPhone and stay with the Z2 and the N5. That way i can satisfy my flashing and hacking needs with the N5 while having a premium device such as the Z2.
I'm currently trying to decide between the Z2 and M8. Coming from S3 with literally massive dev support, I can see that the M8 is likely to get more dev support than the Z2, but as long as there is some decent stock based ROMs and decent AOSP/CM ROMs then I'd be happy on the Z2.
I do keep reading about broken camera on custom Kernels (on Z1) though. Is this likely to be the case on the Z2?
I've never been on Sony before, so it is new ground to me...
remydlc said:
i havent owned any HTC or Sony devices, but their rooting instructions are somewhat complicated comparing to Samsung, not sure where you are getting that Samsungs are hard to root/unlock. Now, they all can be rooted. just that Sony and HTC are a little harder because:
Sony have a protected system partition where it stores its camera drivers, you might have to restore that partition after rooting/unlocking the bootloader, so to install custom ROM you required extra steps and AFAIK the camera wont work the same due to the lack of drivers in custom roms.
HTC they have some extra security for their bootloader it seems (S-ON/S-OFF, google that) but they support most custom ROMs. Just gotta deal with that BS.
Samsung, their main issue is their Qualcom drivers are closed source, so you might have a buggy bluetooth/camera/video driver at first until some devs are able port/improve the original driver to use with AOSP (kind of).
Just got rid of my S4 one month ago since my job got my an iPhone :crying: I am going to get the Z2 even if they dont have as much custom ROM love as the others, but I am tired of Samsung already. Im thinking of either replacing my Nexus 5 or get rid of the iPhone and stay with the Z2 and the N5. That way i can satisfy my flashing and hacking needs with the N5 while having a premium device such as the Z2.
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It really depends because you can just unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery without having to S-OFF if you just want root and custom ROMs for an HTC. Samsung is generally more frustrating because they don't really merge device trees and there are many variants of the phone itself all over the world. Used to own the Exnyos S4 and it was development hell .-. So I switched to the HTC One and I got what I wanted. In currently S-ON and I would only S-off to change CIDs and such. It's quite dangerous to S-ON again from an S-OFF as well. Something to consider if you plan to get an HTC.
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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I plan to buy a Z2 because it has the specs, the functionality and we are gonna have some hands on good devs from the start of development. I truly believe that its the Z2s time to shine as its such a beautiful phone that's hopefully gonna get alot of development. The M8 is meh. I'm an HTC Fan but honestly the m8 doesn't look all too good and I had much higher expectations for HTCs new flagship
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
Bllooi said:
It really depends because you can just unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery without having to S-OFF if you just want root and custom ROMs for an HTC. Samsung is generally more frustrating because they don't really merge device trees and there are many variants of the phone itself all over the world. Used to own the Exnyos S4 and it was development hell .-. So I switched to the HTC One and I got what I wanted. In currently S-ON and I would only S-off to change CIDs and such. It's quite dangerous to S-ON again from an S-OFF as well. Something to consider if you plan to get an HTC.
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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I plan to buy a Z2 because it has the specs, the functionality and we are gonna have some hands on good devs from the start of development. I truly believe that its the Z2s time to shine as its such a beautiful phone that's hopefully gonna get alot of development. The M8 is meh. I'm an HTC Fan but honestly the m8 doesn't look all too good and I had much higher expectations for HTCs new flagship
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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The htc m8 like you said doesnt seem too impressive specially spec wise, but i have a feeling it will get a much bigger development support. Not to mention that sony is going to release another flagship in 6 months.
malek777 said:
The htc m8 like you said doesnt seem too impressive specially spec wise, but i have a feeling it will get a much bigger development support. Not to mention that sony is going to release another flagship in 6 months.
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True... After a while I am considering that a snapdragon 805 might do better. Not much innovation is going on with the current flagships and i think 2014 is going to be a pretty boring tech year for phones and wearables are coming in. I'm a proud owner of the HTC M7 and ive seen the leaks of the M8 im finding the speaker grills look weird and there is no use of the bottom bezel. I have to be honest the M8 looks terrible compared to the HTC One and all these flagships are carrying the 801's which are just a bump up... I think i might wait...
Nah, the M8 will have more support (and legs) due to the fact that it has a GPE version. They are already committed to updating it to the latest version of android for two years. This will be ported across for most of the other variants just like it was on the one and that work will be available not long after the GPE hits the street as the same dev already has it in the works and is just waiting for a dump. Meanwhile here you have a phone that will already be old and pathetic when the 3 comes out on its fancy smanchy 805 chipset before the end of the year.
I bought in here guys so don't get me wrong. I feel this phone will have plenty enough support but if that were my main criteria I would have went with the M8.
bazzanaja said:
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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HTC cannot be Compared to Sony for the Quality of the Build Materials but for Developing Section HTC is more far away from Sony.
So if you want have Software support for your device buy Nexus or HTC, if you want have the feeling of an amazing quality phone in your hand, buy Sony.