Does Xperia Z Ultra do OTG USB Host for audio DAC..? - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Hi Members
I'm currently using a Note2 but I love the screen size, speed and quality shown by the Xperia Z Ultra so i'm thinking this may be my next phone.
At the moment, i can hook up SGNote2 to my Hifi via an 'OTG USB host' adapter lead, a further 'USB to MiniUSB' cable which then plugs into my HRT Headstreamer Mobile DAC, will I be able to do the same with the Xperia Z Ultra?
Also, does the Sony have any issues with regards to playing 'flash plugin' Web content and media?
And lastly please, Samsung uses a device call an 'AllShare Cast hub' to mirror what's on the SNote2 onto a HD TV , how does/will the Xperia Z Ultra work to do this same feature, is there Sony equivalent device?
Any advise would be great thanks
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Works with a Fiio E17 but not with an Audioquest Dragonfly
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Thanks for the help Rokkaman, i couldn't help myself and went ahead and bought the SZU.
I did find out that mirror casting should be no problem (i also purchased a Netgear Push2tv), I'm gonna take my chances with my HRT Headstreamer Mobile DAC, and hope that it will work with the Sony phone.
The HRT DAC's tend to be 'firmware' designed with a high rate of standard conformity, but if there's a problem then I'll have to look for another DAC product like your make and model, hopefully this won't be necessary though.
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RokkaMan said:
Works with a Fiio E17 but not with an Audioquest Dragonfly
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Like the Xperia Z, the Xperia Z Ultra should likely work with the AudioQuest DragonFly using USB Audio Recorder PRO available on Google Play store. There is a free trial version.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/2265#post_9429206
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With just an OTG adapter and using the Walkman app I was able to use my Fiio E17 as a USB DAC streaming both MP3 and FLAC to it from C6802.
Could not make my Astel and Kern 120 work at all. It would cause the AK120 to lock up each time it was connected and USB DAC was selected. Would need to soft-reset even after USB was disconnected.

cmclaughlan said:
With just an OTG adapter and using the Walkman app I was able to use my Fiio E17 as a USB DAC streaming both MP3 and FLAC to it from C6802.
Could not make my Astel and Kern 120 work at all. It would cause the AK120 to lock up each time it was connected and USB DAC was selected. Would need to soft-reset even after USB was disconnected.
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Hmm, sounds like a fault with the AK120. Send it to me & I'll try it with my equipment Yeah?

Nuwidol said:
Hmm, sounds like a fault with the AK120. Send it to me & I'll try it with my equipment Yeah?
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Love my AK120 so it doesn't matter so much that the Ultra Z doesn't stream to it.

Works with fiio e17 alpen with an ordinary 2 $ otg usb cable. I found the sound horrible with the headphones directly connected to Zu. I own galaxy S4 and S4 active but no comparison here...different world.
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calinormy said:
Works with fiio e17 alpen with an ordinary 2 $ otg usb cable. I found the sound horrible with the headphones directly connected to Zu. I own galaxy S4 and S4 active but no comparison here...different world.
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So what you're saying, is that a) the E17 is being supported by the ZU and b) the quality you can get from this combination is superior compared to the E17-S4 configuration?

No,with the e17 you have two options : 1.to get the digital file directly from usb port and to convert inside the e17 - in this case the source of music doesn't matter S4 or Z or Zu 2. To get the sound decoded by fone and only amplified by E17. I was talking about the sound.from the phone alone. It is awful and I am disappointed by Sony. My headphones are Sennheiser Momentum. I am lucky enough cause I have the option 1....with alpen. Sorry for my English.
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calinormy said:
No,with the e17 you have two options : 1.to get the digital file directly from usb port and to convert inside the e17 - in this case the source of music doesn't matter S4 or Z or Zu 2. To get the sound decoded by fone and only amplified by E17. I was talking about the sound.from the phone alone. It is awful and I am disappointed by Sony. My headphones are Sennheiser Momentum. I am lucky enough cause I have the option 1....with alpen. Sorry for my English.
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Thanks mate for clarifying this!

klinggalaxy said:
Thanks mate for clarifying this!
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I bought the x3 for my xperia z utltra works great with the otg cable but you can only use the audio recorder app from playstore as a player, which does not playback mp3s.
I wish there was another way to use the x3 as a dac and use it with my z ultra and use other players like poweramp or neutron player but so far it does not work that way.
If there is another way tell me please how to use the x3 as a dac, as after i listened to music from x3 as a dac i decided that the way I want to listen to music from now on.

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CTIA and OMTP headphone converter cable

I have used one of these cables to connect my Brainwavz M4 with microphone to my Xperia Active.
It is a small 5cm cable that plugs into Xperia phones which will allow you to use previously incompatible headphones with mic/vol control.
Picked it up for $8 from mobimega.
Model: Fiio LU2
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Totally worth it!
Enjoy.
Find this in South Africa
firstly thank you for this find,
does anyone know where i can find this in South Africa? Cape Town,
i am busy trying to connect lapel mics to my Xperia T through a TRRS cable but with the assistance of this cable i should be able to do it. no body around here knows what i am talking about when i ask for a OMPT to CTIA converter cable.
your assistance would be greatly apreciated,
thanks
Jamey
so i used the Iphone connector/converter cable and it works. the only thing is you cant push the mic jack in all the way otherwize it doesnt pick up but other than that it works great.
i have the Xperia T
I hope this will work on sony mh1c.
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Really interesting!! I have a philips in ear headphones for ipod and iphone, it can fix the incompatibility with my xperia Ray
Davest87 said:
Really interesting!! I have a philips in ear headphones for ipod and iphone, it can fix the incompatibility with my xperia Ray
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Hi,
I am planning to but FIIO LU2 Adapter For my live with walkman. I have already bought MH-Ex300AP(Xperia Z Headphones Which is CTIA Based).
Will FIIO LU2 Adapter make MH-Ex300AP compatible with my phone(live with walkman)?
Thanks in Advance....
You could always crack the mic unit open and reverse the GND and V-Mic pinout.
I should know, I did this to some Xperia Sola (CTIA) headsets and they work perfectly with my Mini Pro.
Anything available in india.. want to use sound magic mp21
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Procedure
Pixelado said:
You could always crack the mic unit open and reverse the GND and V-Mic pinout.
I should know, I did this to some Xperia Sola (CTIA) headsets and they work perfectly with my Mini Pro.
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Can u pls explain the procedure in brief. I wud b rlly grateful.
sanmoron said:
Can u pls explain the procedure in brief. I wud b rlly grateful.
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There you go, I had success with this tutorial, thanks to @n.droid
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158601
I posted about this months ago, 25 uk pounds Sony want for the converter cable, but as I posted before JVC gummy plus(with Mic) come with the needed converter cable, plus a half decent set of headphones, now I can use my xperia z headphones on my on my mango and ayame
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darkmash said:
I posted about this months ago, 25 uk pounds Sony want for the converter cable, but as I posted before JVC gummy plus(with Mic) come with the needed converter cable, plus a half decent set of headphones, now I can use my xperia z headphones on my on my mango and ayame
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how about the sound quality ?? is the sound decreased or nothing change ?
Its no different mate , I got sound enhancements,beats and viper fx and viper xhifi and all working but it works and sounds great , I also have xvolume via xposed apk
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I know some cables that have function like Fiio LU2 such as Sony Ericsson EC 250, but all of them not available in Vietnam :crying:
I have CTIA/OMTP converter (I think is official sony) and it works for sound, mic and main button, but volume buttons don't work. I have a Xperia Ray with GB and in ear headphones for iPod, iPhone. Are volume buttons incompatible with this settings? I need a third party app?

Connecting Galaxy Note to your car to listen to music

First, my car doesn't have bluetooth audio stream but it has AUX and USB ports. I used to use iphone cable (AUX & USB to iphone) to listen to music and it sounded good. However, with NOTE, I tried to AUX cable, it sounded terrible. Tried USB port using "USB utilities" from the phone and it doesn't work.
What do you guys use to listen to music from your car? What should I do to get my good quality of music back in to my car? Should I switch my car?
Aux or bluetooth, both sound quite fine, maybe is a problem with the aux port of your phone/headunit,?
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I use an aux port to connect to mine sounds fine to me and i have an upgraded system
xCeejayy said:
I use an aux port to connect to mine sounds fine to me and i have an upgraded system
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I used AUX on my old car and it worked just fine. Music sounded the same with my Note and my wife's iPhone and my Windows Phone before that.
I use bluetooth in my new car, and although it skips a couple times when it connects, after the first couple of minutes it sounds just as it does when i connect it to the AUX.
I have never tried to use the USB interface, though...
What type of aux cable are you using, that can make a major difference if it's just a cheapo one
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madeSICC said:
What type of aux cable are you using, that can make a major difference if it's just a cheapo one
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madeSICC said:
What type of aux cable are you using, that can make a major difference if it's just a cheapo one
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Very true! The Note is very picky when it comes to AUX wire. I used a cheap iphone one and it only played on one side of the car and was very low. Then tried using my bros quality Aux wire and it sounded great.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
When I use my ipod classic, I have a dock connector to AUX and power as well. Whats good about this is that it offers a line level audio output. This is what that Note is missing the most. Line Level will bypass a bit of processing in the in the player. I have the Samsung Car Dock and it offers acceptable audioout. Its well designed. Though it's not an upgrade over the regular headphone jack even though its audio out through the USB.
Make sure they are gold tipped (aux cable). Either your phones or cars aux port is bad because it sounds great on any system I use my note on (home theater, car, etc)
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I feel for the op as I ran into the same situation. Unfortunately I can't change my aux cable because I'm running a module on my truck to link an ipod adapter and and aux through my stock stereo. Small price to pay seeing as I'd need to buy $200 worth of modules just to get a standard stereo to run with my bose system.
Word of the wise for those looking at buying a gmc or Chevy with a bose system. It's a nice system but a pain if you want to modify it.
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I'm still using the jabra cruiser to connect through Bluetooth then it uses a built in FM transmitter and works good enough for me!!!!
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Theoriginalgiga said:
I feel for the op as I ran into the same situation. Unfortunately I can't change my aux cable because I'm running a module on my truck to link an ipod adapter and and aux through my stock stereo. Small price to pay seeing as I'd need to buy $200 worth of modules just to get a standard stereo to run with my bose system.
Word of the wise for those looking at buying a gmc or Chevy with a bose system. It's a nice system but a pain if you want to modify it.
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No offense, but I'd rip that **** out so damn quick. Its not even a Bose system (pull the speakers out, they are more than likely pioneer or other brand). Nissan's ran/run Bose systems as well, same issues with them. I ripped it out and swapped them out.
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I use BT and have used earphone out to aux in. There is a device called a Firefly which is BT to your car radio, it cost about $29
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I'm running 3.5mm to rca to the CD changer input as aux on a cheap pioneer. Sounds fine.
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Dont know but maybe this is for you. JB has USB audio coded into it now. There are several JB Alpha/Beta builds out now. I am personally using hots CM10 build. The jury is still out on whether or not that feature is working but I just posted in another Q&A thread that when I try it. it acts like it wants to connect but because of unrelated problems with my micro port its not locking on to even my computer or phone charger ver long. my car used to not accept it at all but now it goes through the connection process until my port messes up which leads me to believe the code is intact in our preview ROMS. Just another option for ya to look into!
This isn't cheap ($70), but it's currently the easiest way to add truly wireless Bluetooth (no extra power cable needed) to your car stereo's 3.5mm AUX port:
HTC CAR A100
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-car-stereoclip-audio-bridge-a100.html
I personally just use a standard 3.5mm stereo cable... sounds great!
Dude grab a Jabra Cruiser I LOVE mine and use it everywhere...
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My thread of awesomeness(also my first thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29570977
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erick161 said:
No offense, but I'd rip that **** out so damn quick. Its not even a Bose system (pull the speakers out, they are more than likely pioneer or other brand). Nissan's ran/run Bose systems as well, same issues with them. I ripped it out and swapped them out.
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None taken, I could rip it out, replace 10 speakers and a sub, new amp, deck, modules to get my door chimes, and module to use my steeringwheel controls OR I could leave it all in because they don't sound half bad, I'm not a huge audiophile and spend the 2K that it would cost me to redo it and finish rebuilding my boat. Oh I know it doesn't HAVE to cost 2K but because I used to build stereo systems for a living and don't do anything half ass, it'll cost a pretty penny and a couple ugly ones. Oh and GMC does use real Bose hardware, remember used to do audio installs for a living
But thanks for the suggestion!
Try turning the Note's volume down when using aux cable. The headphone out can get too loud and cause distortion. Put Note ad mid volume and use car volume to adjust.
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paleh0rse said:
This isn't cheap ($70), but it's currently the easiest way to add truly wireless Bluetooth (no extra power cable needed) to your car stereo's 3.5mm AUX port:
HTC CAR A100
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-car-stereoclip-audio-bridge-a100.html
I personally just use a standard 3.5mm stereo cable... sounds great!
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Sprint has these for $59 I believe. Online only
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USB-C to 3.5 mm adapter - HTC U11 says "not supported"

Hi I found a pair of USB type C to 3.5 mm headphone jack adapters on amazon, and i plug it into the HTC U11 and before i even plug the headphones in it says this accessory is not supported.
I have headphones all over the place and I want a few adapters to leave on them so I don't have to carry one around with me.
Does anyone know of an adapter that is supported by the U11? Or a way to make the ones I have now work?
grafik2 said:
Hi I found a pair of USB type C to 3.5 mm headphone jack adapters on amazon, and i plug it into the HTC U11 and before i even plug the headphones in it says this accessory is not supported.
I have headphones all over the place and I want a few adapters to leave on them so I don't have to carry one around with me.
Does anyone know of an adapter that is supported by the U11? Or a way to make the ones I have now work?
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It's not working because there is no Amp/DAC in it.
Just the original HTC will work.
Unsure what you're asking me.
HTC only sent one pair, where can I get more that will work as I said I have multiple headphones
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Unsure what you're asking me.
HTC only sent one pair, where can I get more that will work as I said I have multiple headphones
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In Europe they are available on the HTC webshop.
Why you just unplug each time you want to swap?
grafik2 said:
Does anyone know of an adapter that is supported by the U11? Or a way to make the ones I have now work?
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Buy a few extra OEM adapters. Can't make 3rd party ones work.
*justintime* said:
In Europe they are available on the HTC webshop.
Why you just unplug each time you want to swap?
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Just because I have a pair of headphones in my truck, gym bag, at my office and at home. The ones online are cheap I thought for a few bucks I could have adapted all my headphones instead of having to carry one around!
Those cheap ones won't do. Buy them officially from HTC. Send the Amazon ones back for a refund.
Any idea on what options you have for spares in countries HTC does not not offer the adapter for sale (Australia for example)
Anyone want to trade their adapter for my headphones? I have never liked the earbud style I cannot get them to stay in my ears I would rather use the over ear headphones I already have but want more adapters
Adapter cost 13e and shipping 26e Wtf htc
HTC won't ship from UK store to US.... US is sold out. This sucks
grafik2 said:
Anyone want to trade their adapter for my headphones? I have never liked the earbud style I cannot get them to stay in my ears I would rather use the over ear headphones I already have but want more adapters
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I recommend the Griffin iTrip. Its a Bluetooth receiver and easy to setup. Sound quality is good. Its cheap as well. https://griffintechnology.com/intl/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter
Guys, install app SoundAbout.
Works fine for me with generic USB-C Adapters.
Speedwizard said:
Guys, install app SoundAbout.
Works fine for me with generic USB-C Adapters.
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So with this app it works with usb c generic audio adapters? Is that a paid feature or did it just work by default? Thanks!
Toyeboy said:
So with this app it works with usb c generic audio adapters? Is that a paid feature or did it just work by default? Thanks!
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Yes! Works fine with cheap USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. I use it on my U Ultra, that come with no adapter in package.
I bought the Pro key, that´s enable other type of output. Is this case. just select "Wired headset with Mic"
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Guys, install app SoundAbout.
Works fine for me with generic USB-C Adapters.
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Okay thanks!
Speedwizard said:
Guys, install app SoundAbout.
Works fine for me with generic USB-C Adapters.
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Do you know how this works. Is SoundAbout a DAC what exactly is it? I am asking because I got the Pixel 2 and it does not have a analog out like The HTC Bolt or HTC U11
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Do you know how this works. Is SoundAbout a DAC what exactly is it? I am asking because I got the Pixel 2 and it does not have a analog out like The HTC Bolt or HTC U11
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It works. I can only suppose how it do it. Routing outputs. As U Ultra and U11 have analog output over USB-C, it route output to USB-C pins and you will have an analog output with analog quality. The DAC will works on board. I can say that quality differences between original HTC adapter with DAC and a generic with soundabout are minimal.
That´s it. It Work.
I bought this because I had an U Ultra before and it come with no HTC adapter and I love my 3.5mm phones.
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It works. I can only suppose how it do it. Routing outputs. As U Ultra and U11 have analog output over USB-C, it route output to USB-C pins and you will have an analog output with analog quality. The DAC will works on board. I can say that quality differences between original HTC adapter with DAC and a generic with soundabout are minimal.
That´s it. It Work.
I bought this because I had an U Ultra before and it come with no HTC adapter and I love my 3.5mm phones.
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Oh so then the U11 is different then the Pixel 2 then as it puts out digital out on USB-C only.
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Oh so then the U11 is different then the Pixel 2 then as it puts out digital out on USB-C only.
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Maybe Pixel 2 doesn´t have analog output over USB-C or it´s blocked. Think that if you have speakers, you have an DAC onboard to convert digital to that analog speakers.
Have you tested SoundAbout and nothing happens? Even routing to different options? Or another adapter? on U11 an U Ultra I´ve tested on many types of adapters, including original Moto Z and all works fine.
But I don ´t have a Pixel 2 to test. (HTC and Pixels are rare on Brazil)

Which 32 bit DAC and AMP is used inside Huawei Mate 10?

As title says, they mentioned that Mate 10 has headphone jack which includes a 32 bit dac inside. I am curious to know which dac brand and model they used in their new flagahip.
Huawei Mate 10 Pro doesn't have a headphone jack, but I'm also wondering if it has that 32bit DAC.
Their slides say it has 32-bit for the Pro USB-C as well.
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No, Mate 10 Pro does not have analog output (via USB-C), hence it does not have a Digital-to-Analog-Converter (DAC). Mate10Pro has digital output via USB-C. You need to buy your own DAC (either built-in into your headset, or other USB-C compatible DAC).
Now the non-pro model, that actually has a DAC, who knows?
The whole press event from Huawei was very obsfucating and didn't properly specify which features were non-pro OR Pro-model features. The same goes for the actual huawei.com specifications pages for these models.
Until the phones ship, are torn down and or rooted, we have to wait for the information.
I'm still hoping that the China model (6GB/128GB) of non-Pro Mate (with sdcard and 3.5mm headphone jack) turns up for sale online and has the nice features I'm hoping it has.
vasra said:
No, Mate 10 Pro does not have analog output (via USB-C), hence it does not have a Digital-to-Analog-Converter (DAC). Mate10Pro has digital output via USB-C. You need to buy your own DAC (either built-in into your headset, or other USB-C compatible DAC).
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What's the source of this information?
The Mate 10 Pro box comes with a USB-C headset.
It also comes with a USB-C to headphone adaptor. Will that adaptor have the DAC then?
What if I use an adaptor with analogue audio pass-through. What DAC will it use then? I assume it will still use a 32-bit DAC on the pro? Otherwise digital only.
If it comes with a USB-C to 3.5mm adaptor, then the device has a DAC
vasra said:
No, Mate 10 Pro does not have analog output (via USB-C), hence it does not have a Digital-to-Analog-Converter (DAC). Mate10Pro has digital output via USB-C. You need to buy your own DAC (either built-in into your headset, or other USB-C compatible DAC).
Now the non-pro model, that actually has a DAC, who knows?
The whole press event from Huawei was very obsfucating and didn't properly specify which features were non-pro OR Pro-model features. The same goes for the actual huawei.com specifications pages for these models.
Until the phones ship, are torn down and or rooted, we have to wait for the information.
I'm still hoping that the China model (6GB/128GB) of non-Pro Mate (with sdcard and 3.5mm headphone jack) turns up for sale online and has the nice features I'm hoping it has.
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The output is analog. Confirmed by a guy on youtube who connected the pro using the inbox usb-c to 3.5mm adapter to an external loud speaker.
The usb type c converter might have a dacs even the apple one has ,and so does the HTC u 11(I guess)
However they might be talking about the ones that might be integrated in their soc.
Don't get your hopes high though.Nothing can still beat the v20
We recieved the usb-c to 3.5mm audiojack, but Huawei told us it is wil not be in the consumer box.
However the usb-c earphones will be in the box
The Pro does have the audio adapter in the box.
What is confusing is what standard and how is Huawei implementing it. I have a pair of Razer Hammerhead Type C headphones. They work fine as you'd expect with the Razer phone. They work really well with my MacBook Pro and show up as USB C headphones, but plug into the Mate 10 and it says they are not digitally certified and dont sound great.
So does that mean Huawei need a headphones with a DAC built in to work ? or something else.
Whatahifi.com Huawei Mate 10 Pro
DAC: Digital to analogue convertor
Phone = Digital
Headphones = Analogue
Sorry to say but you have no idea of what your talking about.
A DAC is a Digital-to-Analog Converter. A DAC [Digital-to-Analog Converter] is a device that converts digital audio information (comprised of a series of 0s and 1s) into an analog audio signal that can be sent to a headphone amp.
Conclusion:
Every digital device has a DAC. Differentiation is made by the quality and amplifier power. I like AKM DAC's for example. Son unless you guys have discovered a way to build a phone with lamps you have listen to a DAC.
P. S. According do What a HiFI it has a High End DAC but the phone stutters heavely so I think I am going to return it.
gavinfabl said:
The Pro does have the audio adapter in the box.
What is confusing is what standard and how is Huawei implementing it. I have a pair of Razer Hammerhead Type C headphones. They work fine as you'd expect with the Razer phone. They work really well with my MacBook Pro and show up as USB C headphones, but plug into the Mate 10 and it says they are not digitally certified and dont sound great.
So does that mean Huawei need a headphones with a DAC built in to work ? or something else.
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Hi Gavin, have you tried in on Mate 10 Pro yet? wonder how does it perform as Mate 10 Pro doesn't have a DAC in the phone. Would you please describe more on the sound quality you encounter on Mate 10 with Hammerhead?
I am thinking to get one pair for my Mate 10 Pro..
[email protected] said:
DAC: Digital to analogue convertor
Phone = Digital
Headphones = Analogue
Sorry to say but you have no idea of what your talking about.
A DAC is a Digital-to-Analog Converter. A DAC [Digital-to-Analog Converter] is a device that converts digital audio information (comprised of a series of 0s and 1s) into an analog audio signal that can be sent to a headphone amp.
Conclusion:
Every digital device has a DAC. Differentiation is made by the quality and amplifier power. I like AKM DAC's for example. Son unless you guys have discovered a way to build a phone with lamps you have listen to a DAC.
P. S. According do What a HiFI it has a High End DAC but the phone stutters heavely so I think I am going to return it.
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You have partially right, ther is not only a DAC solution, ther is PWN ! PWM is the best way to have a ****ing damn really good sound !
We have to know if the manufacturer use a DAC or PWM, and what is the chip used.
I personally use a "FX Audio D802". It is a Class-D amplifier, all class-D are PWM and do not use a DAC of course. And it sound really great, really better than a lot of expensive DAC+amplifier.
I personnaly don't love the Qualcomm DAC, i think it is really poor. I know some OPPO, ZTE and some others (Huawei/Honor ?) use AKM DAC but don't know wich one
Is anybody know what the chip used on the phones ? ... the only way to have good sound is to use a DAP.
Regards

Question Noise Cancelling wired headphones - issues

Hi everybody,
I just got my Xperia 1 III and I tried to use my old Sony Noise Cancelling headphones MDR-NC31E, and I'm getting error that these headphones are not compatible with my device.
After closing this error message, music continues to play on speakers.
Any other random generic wired headphones are working normally.
Is there anything I can do to trick my phone to use these headphones?
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almirsahbaz said:
Hi everybody,
I just got my Xperia 1 III and I tried to use my old Sony Noise Cancelling headphones MDR-NC31E, and I'm getting error that these headphones are not compatible with my device.
After closing this error message, music continues to play on speakers.
Any other random generic wired headphones are working normally.
Is there anything I can do to trick my phone to use these headphones?
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Yeah they won't work buddy due to the extra ring around the 3.5 auxiliary on the earphones, I have the other ones can't remember the name but they haven't worked on any Xperia since the X series it's a shame I know
AJHutchinson said:
Yeah they won't work buddy due to the extra ring around the 3.5 auxiliary on the earphones, I have the other ones can't remember the name but they haven't worked on any Xperia since the X series it's a shame I know
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So any standard wired headphones will work normally, and noise cancelling ones won't (even other generic brands)?
for some reason i see this too with all my earphones (Sennheiser i300, campfire audio polaris, campfire audio atlas) and i found numerous people on the web having similar problems always with sony devices. also had this problem with my xperia 1 ii. but i found if i just unplug and replug most times on 2nd or 3rd attempt they do work. very annoying.
almirsahbaz said:
So any standard wired headphones will work normally, and noise cancelling ones won't (even other generic brands)?
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Any normal wired and any other NC wired ones should work other than the 2 Sony made where the NC relied on the custom aux connection inside the phone, they made a different version of them for phones that wasn't there's at the time which had a box connected the wire to power the Noise Cancellation technology,
elwuero said:
for some reason i see this too with all my earphones (Sennheiser i300, campfire audio polaris, campfire audio atlas) and i found numerous people on the web having similar problems always with sony devices. also had this problem with my xperia 1 ii. but i found if i just unplug and replug most times on 2nd or 3rd attempt they do work. very annoying.
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That's pretty strange I thought it would just be their own wired NC earphones which relied on their custom aux connection to power the NC via the phone,
You'd lose the noise cancelling functionality, but a generic adapter extension dongle like this one will let you at least connect them to the phone to listen. (NB - not specifically recommending this particular listing, but it'll probably work fine, as I'm sure a few others will.)
That sounds about right - i.e. why it doesn't work. The way those headphones worked in your other Sony phones is because the headphone jack had five poles, or thereabouts (that's the individual sections you see on the connector tip) which had to line up with the jack for L&R, Mic and then noise cancellation. If your headset is not five pole, or thereabouts, and the poles don't align to the phones pole connections then you are SOL.
can anyone make a recommendation for a good pair of wired earbuds that work well with the xperia line? i have 3 pairs of good earbuds (sennheiser ie300, campfire audio atlas and polaris). they all work but i have to plug them in 2 or 3 times to get them to work. had this problem with the 1 ii and now with the 1 iii. all 3 earbuds have only 2 rings on the connector. maybe that’s the problem.

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