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So I did the unlock and put the new sprint rom on it. I then loaded the prl, changed the msl to all 0's. I called verizon to change it from my juke. They told me the esn is not in there database, she had to submit a form to try to get it changed, it will be some days if they do it at all. Is there anything I can do to get this to work on Verizon without them trying to add the esn and it possibly getting denied. I would like to get it up and running today. Does anybody have a way to fix this, that is in noob terms. Thank you in advance!
Yes, you can supercid it and then clone your existing esn onto it.
http://www.ringerpost.com/forums/rpost.pl?b-rt/m-1207420735/
ok I attempted to clone it to my existing juke phone that I have active on verizon. When i change the esn I get no signal. Even when prl is loaded. When I change the esn back to the stock esn, I get a signal, but verizon won't activate that esn, they called me back and said its a sprint esn and they couldn't activate it. Man I am pulling my hair out trying to figure this out. Can anybody offer some help, or post the steps they used to get this working?
any help would be great
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any help would be great
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vzw hasnt fully made their system open yet. they wont accept an esn that they didnt sell. so no sprint esn will be activated. the only thing you can do is change the esn, but since that makes you not able to get a signal, seems like you might not be doing that right...
i don't understand what im doing wrong
You're not doing anything wrong. Verizon WILL not activate any phone on their network that doesn't have a Verizon ESN. The mogul will run perfectly fine on the network, but because it has a Sprint ESN, they will not activate it. Now...if you're trying to clone the ESN of an existing Verizon phone, that's a whole different story and is quite illegal.
I don't believe that cloning the esn from a juke will work -- because VZW knows the phone type by the esn. It seems that you would need to use an esn from a junk mogul
give it a try?
the phne should at least get a signal from that esn though. It gets nothing! Its like I'm in a no coverage zone
i just activated my sprint motoQ on verizon. they did not question the sprint ESN at all.
flashed a vz image and vz prl, and all is good.
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i just activated my sprint motoQ on verizon. they did not question the sprint ESN at all.
flashed a vz image and vz prl, and all is good.
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^^^ Thats cuz they know the power of DCD
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i just activated my sprint motoQ on verizon. they did not question the sprint ESN at all.
flashed a vz image and vz prl, and all is good.
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is it possible to use verizon phone for sprint? Then use your rom?
nathan7 said:
is it possible to use verizon phone for sprint? Then use your rom?
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I would love to know this. It would cut my bill by about 75%.
Asking the experts...
I have been reading and following the titan for some time and are ready to purchase. Looking at Verizon vs. Sprint for new device, Verizon is way more expensive. Looking at eBay there are many for Sprint and next to zero for Verizon.
I would like to bid on a "clean ESN" phone for Sprint, then activate on Verizon. Possibly even activate on Sprint for some time then switch. (I have under 2 months left on my contract).
I have found a few that are NIB for a seller and asked for the ESN. He states he gives them only to the winner. I say red flag, but does he have a security issue (I could clone it??)?
And from above, could I do the double activate or if Verizon says it is clean only do it there?
Thanks.
I am also trying to do this. I have the cracking 6800 package, followed the instructions and was able to get the cid to all o's, although i am stuck in CDMA workshop and cant change the ESN because i am not sure what port to connect on( i have tried all them no luck) Anyone with any ideas would help me out alot. Also if the phone is currently unlocked with 2.4 loader but has the sprint 3.35 radio is it safe to flash to a stock verizon rom? Do i need to even do this? I have flashed with a custom rom then selected verizon as my carrier but in EPST config it still shows SPCS.
dcd1182 said:
i just activated my sprint motoQ on verizon. they did not question the sprint ESN at all.
flashed a vz image and vz prl, and all is good.
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were not worthy!.....were not worthy!
Hi, this is my first post on the XDA forums and I have some Q's. Hopefully I find some A's. Can someone point me in the right direction or explain this. I bought a used Sprint Mogul and I have Alltel. I want to have this phone work for Alltel. All I have right now is the newest HTC rom for alltel and the Titan Unlocker. Will someone give me a hand on how to make this phone my new phone for Alltel? BTW I dont want to really run any custom roms unless I have to.
Thanks,
Moulds
The problem isn't the rom, the problem is that carriers store their "own" ESN's in their systems, since the phone wasn't sold to Altel originally, it won't be in their system. There are stories of people having success getting one carrier or the other to activate other carriers phones, but it's extrememly rare and very difficult to do. The first thing you would have to do is download the stock rom for Altel for your model phone, flash it, and verify the phone boots and appears to work. At this point, you can try going into the Altel store and see if you can convince their reps to activate the phone. If they won't, then try calling customer service and see if you can get them over the phone to do it, however again, their system is going to throw up a flag when they try to activate someone other carriers phone.
If the phone doesn't look exactly like Altel's there is even less of a chance of getting it activated.
Honestly your best bet is to put it back on ebay and take the proceeds from that sale to buy a used Altel phone. You will have a whole lot less trouble.
BTC
Well what if I took the current esn of my razr on change my mogul to that? would that work and if so how do I do that.
That is illegal and even discussing it in this forum can get you banned.
While possible, Altel will know it's a data phone and could legally sue you for violating their terms of service.
Again, your best bet is either to change to Sprint, or swap the phone out on ebay for one from Altel.
BTC
Mogul on Alltel
I just bought a Mogul and loaded an Alltel stock ROM last weekend. It has been working great. Alltel will put the ESN in no problem if you call them on the phone. Don't tell them it is from another carrier. All they asked me was what type of phone it was.
Tools I used:
ftp://ppcgeeks.com/../Tools/QPST_2.7.249.zip -THis is used to unlock your phone if needed and update the service information from Sprint to Your Provider
ftp://ppcgeeks.com/../Tools/GetSPC.zip (finds your phone's MSL if it needs unlocked).
ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Titan/Users/Im...rd-SPL-MFG.exe - Run this and then your RUU loader afterwords to install your ROM
Latest ROM ver 3.52.671.9 (What I am running) @ http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=63&act=all
make sure you have the usb cable, activesync if you are on XP, otherwise Vista has it already.
Basically you need to
1. Get the MSL code from GetSPC inputing your ESN and it outputs the MSL.
2. Put your phone in DIAG mode (##3424# ##3424 Send, or #*#3424). If it is a sprint phone, the first one will work.
3. Run QPST (you will need the MSL you obtained from getSPC
4. You may want to save the phone's configuration if you ever want to roll back to the SPCS config. Anway, Change the MSL to 000000 and write it back to the phone.
5. then run the Hard-SPL-MFG.exe program, paying attention to when it tells you to disconnect and reconnect your phone.
6. Then install your ROM by running the RUU program on your pc.
7. Now, you will need to configure service by going into DIAG mode again (probably need to use ##3424 SEND now) and using QPST change the service information to that for Alltel or whatever carrier you want. I had it easy, I plugged in my Samsung Hue R500 and copied the service information off of that one.
8. If you get all the service information right, you should be able to call Alltel, give them the ESN. If they give you slack, wait a bit and call back until you get someone nice. Persistance is the key. Then you can do *228 for OTA programming.
If you need Alltel config I will post it here, just PM me.
Scott Emick
BillThyCat said:
The problem isn't the rom, the problem is that carriers store their "own" ESN's in their systems, since the phone wasn't sold to Altel originally, it won't be in their system. There are stories of people having success getting one carrier or the other to activate other carriers phones, but it's extrememly rare and very difficult to do. The first thing you would have to do is download the stock rom for Altel for your model phone, flash it, and verify the phone boots and appears to work. At this point, you can try going into the Altel store and see if you can convince their reps to activate the phone. If they won't, then try calling customer service and see if you can get them over the phone to do it, however again, their system is going to throw up a flag when they try to activate someone other carriers phone.
If the phone doesn't look exactly like Altel's there is even less of a chance of getting it activated.
Honestly your best bet is to put it back on ebay and take the proceeds from that sale to buy a used Altel phone. You will have a whole lot less trouble.
BTC
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Alltel DOES activate CDMA phones NOT branded Alltel. Please have all your info str8 before misinforming someone.
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Alltel DOES activate CDMA phones NOT branded Alltel. Please have all your info str8 before misinforming someone.
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The Altel store here doesn't. I don't have Altel so I have never called their customer service, but since I see this same question asked for every other carrier and they all get the same advice I handed out, I assumed that all Altel stores were the same.
Sorry for "misinforming" someone, however, the fact that it has been programmed for sprint may cause him issues down the road... So again, I still think my advice of getting an Altel branded phone is the smartest option.
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Wow thanks for the help anything else I should be warned of?
why would getting an alltel phone be any different than using a sprint/AT&T etc phone. They are all the same, just locked onto their networks for service. If he had bought an HTC Titan that was not branded to a carrier he would have the same luck as all others. Many people still buy unlocked out of the box phones. Most carriers will also add them to their services. The stores may not, but the phone people will. These companies are in business to make money and have customers and turning someone down because they don't get your free phone ain't gonna happen. Just don't tell them it was another carrier's phone.
First off AT&T is GSM, which means if the phone is unlocked you can just stick and sim card in there and bam, it works.
CDMA is different. I know I have looked at my QPST and EPST info pretty close, and there are many settings in there that are carrier specific, so that if you were to try to use it on a different carrier it wouldn't work very well. Phone most likely will work, but data is a different beast. I see dozens of people on here who flash a sprint rom on their verizon phone and accidently let customization run, once you've done this, rolling back to a verizon rom in some cases doesn't fix the problem, you have to go in and hand edit a lot of settings, the same could apply here, since Sprint apparently is different than most carriers.
I'm glad you've had luck getting other carriers phone's activated, and how many of those were smart phones? I bet most were just plain phones, in which case there isn't any problems.
I'm not gonna get in a flamewar with you, I stated my opinion, you stated yours, I feel yours is wrong, you feel mine is wrong. Lets leave it at that.
As to the OP, feel free to try to get it activated, heck, it might work, but if it doesn't, then again, get the correct carrier branded phone and you will have no problems!
BTC
One question am I able to just get the service information from my razr and use that? and if so how do I do that.
actually I am not flaming, and not stating opinion. I am stating fact. If you buy a stock HTC phone w/o contract, which would be unlocked. You can get it activated on any carrier that supports its network CMA or GSM. Smartphone or regular phone. The point is to not tell them it was from another carrier.
One question am I able to just get the service information from my razr and use that? and if so how do I do that????
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I just bought a Mogul and loaded an Alltel stock ROM last weekend. It has been working great. Alltel will put the ESN in no problem if you call them on the phone. Don't tell them it is from another carrier. All they asked me was what type of phone it was.
Tools I used:
ftp://ppcgeeks.com/../Tools/QPST_2.7.249.zip -THis is used to unlock your phone if needed and update the service information from Sprint to Your Provider
ftp://ppcgeeks.com/../Tools/GetSPC.zip (finds your phone's MSL if it needs unlocked).
ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Titan/Users/Im...rd-SPL-MFG.exe - Run this and then your RUU loader afterwords to install your ROM
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the link to the 3rd file you listed is broken... is there anywhere else to get that file? i've tried to google it but i cant get the whole filename from the link to do so.
Thanks for any help
Actually it can be done. I done it today with no problem. Just because the epst and qpst settings are carrier specific doesn't mean that they cant be changed. What I will say is that after you have unlocked the phone and finally have your # activated on alltel via esn your sprint mogul will be functional. you have to update the prl so u wont be stuck in roaming and your data package will be disabled because Sprint uses a different server address. In order to change these settings you will use both qpst to set in hard settings and back everything up and then epst to keep the settings within the phone. the reason you wont have data has to deal with the Security and M.IP settings. its a lot to type so im not going to but if im on at any time you can pm me to walk you through it or even better you can reach me on yahoo messenger. its set within my phone as well so I can give you real time help with the settings on the spot. My messenger name is seraphazaziel79 as well.
I bought a Qwest phone sometime this Spring and I was trying to get it activated on Verizon. I flat out told them it was from another carrier, they put that in my customer file and copied down the ESN so when I called back and told them that it was a XV6800 they called me out on it. Basically lie to them from the beginning and you should be good. If they won't activate it you can sell a Sprint phone on ebay. My Qwest phone makes a pretty decent paper weight.
I heard that the Note 2 is a world phone. My question is this. Can I purchase a phone from verizon unlock it, ship it to my wife in Afghanistan (she has GSM service) and install her sim without issues? The reason I ask is I am not sure if she is good at changing settings because she is kinda used to an iphone.
When she gets back I would also like it to work on Verizons network because that is the service that we have here.
Thank you for any information you can give me.
For voice and text, it should work out of the box as the Verizon variant is unlocked. If you want data though, you need to do a little work as Verizon wants you to use their global roaming so they left out the APN data. Below is a link to that process. Alternatively, some of the custom ROMs (like Beans) add that in for you. Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044449
Not working in India on Vodafone N other Gsm networks
tapatalking
You could just program the APN settings, etc before you ship it to her.
If it was me, I would get the phone... unlock it and install one of the stock based roms (beans, cleanrom, etc)
Configure it to her network, her email, etc.
Flash a nandroid of it using clockwork mod or twrp onto the sd card you are sending to her, and a spare smaller one just for that. Take a couple of pictures of how to restore a nandroid and print them out.
That way if for whatever reason something goes wrong with the phone that isn't hardware related, she can flash it back to a working condition.
(I say a spare card also just incase the sd crashes on her at some point)
It is super easy, so if she isn't that confident around screens normally this should work fine.
What carrier does she have?
We can look all the info needed up with the name of the network, etc.
If she doesn't have anything already, then afghan wireless sold by telestial is a decent affordable provider.
I've tried to make this brief, but there's a lot to tell and this isn't a simple yes/no question.
After several hours of searching for answers with Google and here on XDA, I'm hoping I can find some help here. A friend's wife has a Verizon Galaxy Note II (SCH-i605) that was flashed to Boost Mobile a few months ago by some shady cellular store which no longer is in business. So taking the phone back to them isn't an option. They did a half-ass flash considering the device didn't have 3g or mms working. At some point within the last day or two a factory reset was done.
Here's where it gets weird. After the reset the phone no longer had service. No phone or (1x) data that it had up to that point. I was asked if I could figure out what was wrong. After a long time investigating the problem I finally discovered the reason the phone didn't have service any more was that the ESN didn't match the MEID! And no, it wasn't changed by my friend or his wife (they definitely have no idea how to do it). Nobody had done anything to the phone up to that point aside from the factory reset.
Some quick background info - when the phone was flashed it was done via MEID/ESN method. Let's not go into any detail on that. So after realizing that the current ESN (verizon) didn't match the current MEID (boost) I was puzzled. I'm not new to flashing, and have done a fewl flashes myself so I'm familiar with the whole procedure. What I don't understand is how/why this ESN change happened! I would have suspected someone tampering with the phone but it isn't possible.
Now, my friend lives on the east coast and I'm in California so I couldn't physically look at or do anything with the phone. So using TeamViewer I remotely connected to his computer and gave him instructions on what I needed him to physically do on the phone, and I operated the software. Connected to CDMA Workshop I looked everything over and the only problem I noticed was the mismatched ESN. Tried to change the it back with Workshop but it wouldn't stick. I didn't think it would, but tried anyway. I Tried again with DFS but it didnt work either. For reason unknown DFS didn't load the proper EQF for the phone, and instead used a generic Qualcomm EQF. Yellow light at the bottom instead of green. Long story short, I then noticed that the Boost Mobile NAM and data profile settings were gone as well. Strange, right? Especially since the MEID was showing the same Boost number that was there since the flash.
In my experience on Samsung devices, only the MEID needs to be written and the phone calculates and applies the ESN (or pESN). But this thing apparently has an IMEI which I'm not familiar with. Never owned a GSM phone. So I don't understand how the ESN could have changed/reverted itself, the NAM and data info reset, and so on. Can anyone with experience in this area give some input on what the problem would be and maybe even offer a solution? What is required to perform an MEID/ESN repair on this device? I want to do what I can to help him out because at this point his wife is very upset (to put it mildly), thinking it's his fault.
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I've tried to make this brief, but there's a lot to tell and this isn't a simple yes/no question.
After several hours of searching for answers with Google and here on XDA, I'm hoping I can find some help here. A friend's wife has a Verizon Galaxy Note II (SCH-i605) that was flashed to Boost Mobile a few months ago by some shady cellular store which no longer is in business. So taking the phone back to them isn't an option. They did a half-ass flash considering the device didn't have 3g or mms working. At some point within the last day or two a factory reset was done.
Here's where it gets weird. After the reset the phone no longer had service. No phone or (1x) data that it had up to that point. I was asked if I could figure out what was wrong. After a long time investigating the problem I finally discovered the reason the phone didn't have service any more was that the ESN didn't match the MEID! And no, it wasn't changed by my friend or his wife (they definitely have no idea how to do it). Nobody had done anything to the phone up to that point aside from the factory reset.
Some quick background info - when the phone was flashed it was done via MEID/ESN method. Let's not go into any detail on that. So after realizing that the current ESN (verizon) didn't match the current MEID (boost) I was puzzled. I'm not new to flashing, and have done a fewl flashes myself so I'm familiar with the whole procedure. What I don't understand is how/why this ESN change happened! I would have suspected someone tampering with the phone but it isn't possible.
Now, my friend lives on the east coast and I'm in California so I couldn't physically look at or do anything with the phone. So using TeamViewer I remotely connected to his computer and gave him instructions on what I needed him to physically do on the phone, and I operated the software. Connected to CDMA Workshop I looked everything over and the only problem I noticed was the mismatched ESN. Tried to change the it back with Workshop but it wouldn't stick. I didn't think it would, but tried anyway. I Tried again with DFS but it didnt work either. For reason unknown DFS didn't load the proper EQF for the phone, and instead used a generic Qualcomm EQF. Yellow light at the bottom instead of green. Long story short, I then noticed that the Boost Mobile NAM and data profile settings were gone as well. Strange, right? Especially since the MEID was showing the same Boost number that was there since the flash.
In my experience on Samsung devices, only the MEID needs to be written and the phone calculates and applies the ESN (or pESN). But this thing apparently has an IMEI which I'm not familiar with. Never owned a GSM phone. So I don't understand how the ESN could have changed/reverted itself, the NAM and data info reset, and so on. Can anyone with experience in this area give some input on what the problem would be and maybe even offer a solution? What is required to perform an MEID/ESN repair on this device? I want to do what I can to help him out because at this point his wife is very upset (to put it mildly), thinking it's his fault.
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Has he tried just going into a Verizon store I know that might seem dumb as an answer but you just go in and tell them to do a complete factory restore/reset.. have them change back the info.....
Not sure but if i remember correct if you use ODIN (havent used ODIN on this phone yet) theres a box to check to do factory restore or factory reset which will put all old info back ... I will look into it and reply back .. since i got my note 2 i have used odin again but when i had a epic 4g flashed to boost i remember i had to make sure that box wasnt checked
But you see...They don't want the Verizon settings on the phone. The Note 2 WAS flashed to Boost Mobile (which they currently use), but it's currently non usable because the Verizon setting already ARE back on the phone. That's half of the problem here. The other part of the problem is how to get the device back onto Boost's network.
Update- just found out from DFS tech support that the demo version of this software isn't capable of writing meid or esn on this phone. An update costing $35 is required to have that ability. Is it possible with other software (free)?
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Update- just found out from DFS tech support that the demo version of this software isn't capable of writing meid or esn on this phone. An update costing $35 is required to have that ability. Is it possible with other software (free)?
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That's strange because I flashed an i605 from a Gusto with a demo of DFS and everything went fine including the ESN/MEID.
I now want to flash it to Boost mobile because the reception of Verizon isn't that much better in my area and I'm grandfathered in to the 10c a mintues pay as you go.
Note II
If I factory reset my note II will it still be flashed to Boostmobile? Do I re-sell it as Sprint or Boostmobile?
allow me to explain my situation. when i first got this phone, i had LTE throughout my area. i installed a rom of stang5litre edition which ended up frying my motherboard but i believe it was from flashing it incorrectly and trying to flash the OC1 kernel when i was running OH7 which is OF1 on postpaid. so instead of replacing the fried emmc chip and getting the equipment to do it all, i bought a clean esn motherboard that was taken out of a regular i545 an not a i545pp. it works perfectly with calls, texts and 3G but not LTE. i called customer service many times, tried factory reset, bought a new sim card cause they thought it was bad (which i put in my friends s4 and had LTE instantly so i know the new sim card isnt the issue) it is set on global in settings and running OH7 stock 5.0.1 latest. i cant figure out why everything else works but no LTE. by the sounds of things, im not gonna be able to get a replacement cause verizon says its samsung that does the warranty replacement then samsung turns and says its verizon's fault with the signal and that they replace it. so this is left in my own hands it seems. can anyone help me out? maybe wrong prl or something? any help is very much appreciated....
Anyone with input or suggestions please? ??