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I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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really? another thread about this?
to answer this so it can be locked or merged:
1. let's stop speculating about an OS which is at least 7 months if not a year out (for ARM) techincally windows will be able to run, but getting it to run is going to depend on a lot of things we don't have details about.
2. ubuntu should be portable, it's going to depend on the bootloader to a fair degree as to how easy it is to do.
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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yungballla6 said:
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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To be fair, you are like the 10th person to ask this question about a separate OS then the one it comes with. The answers is no one knows. Just like no one knows if Win8 will be worth a damn.
Windows 8... maybe, but there's an awful lot of unknowns there.
I'd love to have the Prime dual-boot with a Linux distro though, and that seems quite feasible (though the bootloader is an unknown; I have faith in XDA though!). That really would make it into a full netbook.
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Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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in the time it took to open this thread you could have found that it has already been covered.
in this day of instant information, it just irks me when people don't take the time to find what's already there.
yungballla6 said:
I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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Idk about win8 (like others have said there's a thread for that) but as for linux, many devices have been able to boot Ubuntu and bt5 on top with root using chroot and androidvnc. I'm sure it will work considering I've run both on my g2x. There's a thread here on xda for those but currently at work and don't have efficient access to that link. Think its in the nexus s forums?
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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If your a hacker or linux based nerd, then I get Ubuntu. power is king in code crunching. But Windows? Anyone needing windows on the move is 90% working. I dont think you need that much power for that.
If i could boot a windows 8 install off an SD Card in the dock i would be alllllllllllll about that.
i want to put the blackberry playbook OS on it, but emulated inside ICS, and then i can run android apps, emulated through the playbook OS, which is emulated through android. possibly while running an snes emulator.
it's going to be so meta, and you all will be so jealous. :|
There are many threads about Windows 8. The Prime has the Tegra 3 chip which will be supported in Windows 8 and most likely several Linux flavors. We'll see. No let's stop discussing this for the next couple months.
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
benzas said:
best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
Will you be able to run MS excel with VB editing and running it if/when prime gets Win 8?
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
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same here.
At the moment the solution that worked for original Transformer and phones was ok but I would love to actually boot it off a usb drive or SDcard and not have to run the GUI over VNC.
Although Backtrack devs have said that the ARM image released is only for testing and they wont be supporting it. Hopefully they start to fully support it as tablets become more powerful.
Hey does android run on this thing?
/sarcasm
Windows 8 Thread from NOVEMBER: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365283
What? Microsoft missed their mark here. I don't see them making a dent on the tablet market that it's rival Google has a hold of.
Is it possible to install Android OS (GB or ICS) on iPhone 4 or iOS5?
It would be very hard as the hardware is quite different but theoretically it's possible.
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I have it dual booting on my galaxy note
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I have it dual booting on my galaxy note
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You have what dual booting? iOS?
I haven't heard of it happening. Then again I have no interest in iOS so I wouldn't look for it.
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Is it possible to install Android OS (GB or ICS) on iPhone 4 or iOS5?
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There was a project (iDroid maybe? not sure if that's the name) to bring Android to iPhones, but I think the last model supported was the 3GS. It used the open source openiBoot bootloader (a replacement for Apple's) and I think that was the limiting factor in not supporting past the 3GS.
EDIT: There is a port of openiBoot to the iPhone 4 on going. More info on the whole project here: http://www.idroidproject.org - the "status" page is probably especially interesting to you.
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There was a project (iDroid maybe? not sure if that's the name) to bring Android to iPhones, but I think the last model supported was the 3GS. It used the open source openiBoot bootloader (a replacement for Apple's) and I think that was the limiting factor in not supporting past the 3GS.
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@SifJar, the project you mentioned is interesting, but very likely dead. I happen to be in the exact same situation now and would like to do the following to an iPhone 4 which I bought and is SIM-locked:
Make a full backup of the phone and all its data on LINUX
Fully remove the SIM-lock and make it work with all providers
Completely wipe everything, especially traceable information
Install the latest possible Android, preferrably a port of AOKP
I will press the THANKS-button for every useful answer!
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@SifJar, the project you mentioned is interesting, but very likely dead. I happen to be in the exact same situation now and would like to do the following to an iPhone 4 which I bought and is SIM-locked:
Make a full backup of the phone and all its data on LINUX
Fully remove the SIM-lock and make it work with all providers
Completely wipe everything, especially traceable information
Install the latest possible Android, preferrably a port of AOKP
I will press the THANKS-button for every useful answer!
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Anyone able to answer this, please?
Not going to happen any time soon. Apple has massive lockdowns on their devices. Even if someone breaks into it that far, it will be well past the devices lifetime. I have tried the iDroid project, and even when their was work, it was very primitive and not worth actually trying to use. Don't expect an iPhone to work well in Linux any time soon (maybe ever) or be able to back up without a jailbreak.
Well that's very hard. Because apple is closed source and they have encrypted whole system. Can anybody imagine why would anybody change a iPhone to android. I mean what's the point of getting iPhone then..well you can sim locked broked. Jailbreak if you want some more functions. Just purchase a new android. You will more than apple 4S in cheap android.
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Well that's very hard. Because apple is closed source and they have encrypted whole system. Can anybody imagine why would anybody change a iPhone to android. I mean what's the point of getting iPhone then..well you can sim locked broked. Jailbreak if you want some more functions. Just purchase a new android. You will more than apple 4S in cheap android.
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Maybe I found an iPhone without a SIM card a no data on it and my brother needs a new Android phone? Thought I count 1 and 1 together..
Hmm
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Maybe I found an iPhone without a SIM card a no data on it and my brother needs a new Android phone? Thought I count 1 and 1 together..
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well then you need luck with this thing. just stick to development section i mean those are working on this kind of thing. may be one day this will happen
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Maybe I found an iPhone without a SIM card a no data on it and my brother needs a new Android phone? Thought I count 1 and 1 together..
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Then sell that iPhone and buy a good used Android phone, or maybe a cheap new one like the Motorola Moto G.
im done with this dualboot android on iphone, there will be a few tutorial on the net for install it. but only for eclair version, ima no luck for ics and jb. nway. gudluck
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Is it possible to install Android OS…on iPhone 4…?
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I, too, would like to put Android on an iPhone 4.
The iDroid Project doesn't seem to support iPhone 4, but has anyone here gotten it to work on an iPhone 4.
I've seen some work going on here with CM 10.1, since the process of porting Ubuntu Touch is supposed to be the same (according to them) I figured I'd drop the link and hopefully gather some support for some work on a Ubuntu Touch Rom.
Here's the XDA article http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
Ubuntu Porting directions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
I'm no dev by any means but I can help with some of my remedial skills if necessary.
LET'S GO COMMUNITY!!
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I've seen some work going on here with CM 10.1, since the process of porting Ubuntu Touch is supposed to be the same (according to them) I figured I'd drop the link and hopefully gather some support for some work on a Ubuntu Touch Rom.
Here's the XDA article http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
Ubuntu Porting directions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
I'm no dev by any means but I can help with some of my remedial skills if necessary.
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Sounds like a fun project, just started working on it. I also recommend you read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes
Keep in mind that it has no CDMA support at all(No data, calling, sms),has poor wifi support, and looking at the nexus 4 bugs; requires replacing the battery if it dies.
would be awesome but without having cdma its a bust for me i wouldn't use it... now on my tablet that is wi-fi only most definitely
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A rom with no cdma support is like having a car without an engine, it's probably why a dev here hasn't picked it up yet either. But if someone does get it running, I'd play with it for like an hour and likely not touch it again.
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A rom with no cdma support is like having a car without an engine, it's probably why a dev here hasn't picked it up yet either. But if someone does get it running, I'd play with it for like an hour and likely not touch it again.
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This is exactly why I'm doing it, make a nandroid and call it a day.
Wrong forum, should be in Q/A
Isn't AT&T GSM? Why would CDMA matter for our device?
I am currently in the process of building a Note 3 Rom of Ubuntu Touch. I have the experience with Ubuntu and Linux Development to do this, but I would like non-monetary support, like volunteers to find bugs. I'm using a rom based off of stock, minus KNOX (here) so it should work fine.... but that's never a guarantee. I will be testing this ROM myself, but I want to find every bug possible.
If any developers would like to get some addons in here, pm me. I would like to make this as useful as possible.
When CM11 100% functional source code is released, I will rebuild this off of it. I do want to include the best I can into this.
This will be based off of MJE, so, if there could be a person or two to hold back from updating, and trying this out, I would owe you sooo many cookies. I mean, MOUNTAINS of cookies. This voucher is redeemable, alternatively, for a lake of Caramel or an Ice Cream Storm.
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The Cyan text is invalid. Upon rereading sources, it will not matter what rom I use.
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This project will be postponed until the completion of the CM11 Note 3 source code.
I would love to help test!
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I would love to help test!
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please don't take offence, but have you played with custom roms before?
I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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Thank you! Would you mind listing some Ubuntu apps you would like to have included in it? I will already include a couple for testing purposes, but I want to make this enjoyable and useful, after testing
As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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Also will this be the dualbootable android and ubuntu touch buikd?
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As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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well, unfortunately, I can't build it yet, unless you don't mind not having root. I know where to download the stock source code, but I found out that root access would not be a given, even with as little Ubuntu takes from Android. Not to mention, it's a lot easier with the CyanogenMod source.
I will make sure to get all the extended basics. Notepad++, Terminal, basic utilities, media utilities, a file manager, and others. I'll put an app of my own for feedback purposes. Ubuntu Touch is supposed to have the Play Store, so, if I miss something you want, no problem.
I think, when I have my first completely stable build, I'll move on to building a developer's build, including support for programming environments. Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
If anyone can build an app, I have an idea for the way the interface designer would work. PM me.
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Thank you for asking. That sparked the thought on how to re-package this for distribution. Before, I was going to have everyone adb it into their phone, as per the documentation that exists for Ubuntu Touch. However, it would be easy to just zip it all, then transfer and install. To adb it is to just make sure it's clean, but I can make sure that it happens clean via certain adjustments.
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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I'll go ahead and start building it then. I was thinking that there would be not-so-much interest in a non-rooted version. As far as using the CM code, that would give root and the most ease of building. Using Stock gives a guaranteed driver support, however, I am not too sure if KNOX is integrated into the parts that Ubuntu would take from the code. I'll have to research it a bit. I won't bother if KNOX will be pulled in too.
Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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No need, and it wouldn't work anyways. All CM11 source is currently not 100% stable, therefore, I don't know if it will work properly with Ubuntu. I'm grabbing the source directly from Samsung.
Oh I see. Will this build be able to switch between android and ubuntu, or was that only for Nexus?
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Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
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We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
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We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Would it be too much to ask to make 1 build of old and new and then continue building on whichever you see like to more? Just to try it out, lol if its to much dont bother
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Ubuntu Touch Dying???
I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back. Maybe we could turn Ubuntu into a Powerhouse Platform, by creating Ubuntu apps that utilize the power of the Note 3.
N3 has the power to run a sql server and apache, if it's only for a small network. Imagine, being able to make a site for your your friends only, and being able to manage it like a full server, however, you'd have no fees (unless you want a domain, but even then, there are free domains).
Going on this idea, if a sql db is on a mobile device, there is less risk and more ability to control access (ie. turn on airplane mode to disable it)
The N3 could be used as a file distribution spot. You could have an automatic broadcasting of a particular file. All newer galaxy phones could just access it from the wifi direct menu. What an easier way to hand out flyers?
We need to think of ways to utilize the power of the N3 and the simplicity of the Ubuntu Touch SDK. A dump trucks can carry a lot of feathers.
I, personally, dislike using C++ for app development (Thank GOD for Java), but I will do it for this project.
I need more ideas, but please take time to make a list, instead of 1/post
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Eerrrmm... I'm a 100% sure that Ubuntu touch uses the cm kernel. That's why you need a Developer edition device. It's the only one that can flash kernels So if the following statement is true. Then this can't run the 99% of the Verizon note 3s correct?
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mobile-power-monger said:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Awesome. Im ready to start flashing, im gonna start reading up on my ubuntu touch and check it out. Also does abyone knkw if im in ubuntu touch and I hook up hdmi out to my tv does it go into desktop mode? Or is that onky with a dock
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I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back.
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I read (on Android Central, I think) that Ubuntu Touch development was being suspended for all devices, except Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 (original). Maybe that's why......
I just ordered the new ubuntu phone that's getting sent out in march.
Just wondering if there will be a device listing added..
and how many others managed to grab one in the flash sales,?
I'm waiting for the meizu mx4 with ubuntu
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I just ordered the new ubuntu phone that's getting sent out in march.
Just wondering if there will be a device listing added..
and how many others managed to grab one in the flash sales,?
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Submit your request here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
And congrats that you managed to get one!
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I'm waiting for the meizu mx4 with ubuntu
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Me, too.
duke2050 said:
I'm waiting for the meizu mx4 with ubuntu
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https://twitter.com/MEIZU
It will become available soon.
I bought BQ phone and cant wait to get it. What I really like about Ubuntu Touch are live updates like on the desktop with bugfixes and new features. No more waiting for months until the manufacturer issues new Android firmware for my phone. Not only bugfixes but whole new versions of the OS will come fast. And porting guide looks promising, doesnt seem too difficult to port Ubuntu Touch though I am not a developer so I cannot know that for sure.
Jack Harper said:
https://twitter.com/MEIZU
It will become available soon.
I bought BQ phone and cant wait to get it. What I really like about Ubuntu Touch are live updates like on the desktop with bugfixes and new features. No more waiting for months until the manufacturer issues new Android firmware for my phone. Not only bugfixes but whole new versions of the OS will come fast. And porting guide looks promising, doesnt seem too difficult to port Ubuntu Touch though I am not a developer so I cannot know that for sure.
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Porting guide is alright but it doesn't always get all features to work , e.g I did a s4 i9505 port but cell didn't work.
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Porting guide is alright but it doesn't always get all features to work , e.g I did a s4 i9505 port but cell didn't work.
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I wonder if the Android driver version (Jellybean/KitKat etc) makes any difference on whether something works or not. Or maybe some types of drivers dont play along well depending on the manufacturer, I know that some people did a lot of tinkering with drivers to make newer Androids work on older phones, likely some tweaks are necessary to make some drivers work on Ubuntu. I still hope that we see successful ports here on xda.
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I wonder if the Android driver version (Jellybean/KitKat etc) makes any difference on whether something works or not. Or maybe some types of drivers dont play along well depending on the manufacturer, I know that some people did a lot of tinkering with drivers to make newer Androids work on older phones, likely some tweaks are necessary to make some drivers work on Ubuntu. I still hope that we see successful ports here on xda.
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Think the tweaking you refer to was due to new versions required new kernel
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