ZU - General Chat Thread - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

ZU - General Chat Thread - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Hi all,
This is a thread where we can chat "all things Ultra" without going off topic in other threads. I'm an expert in going off topic (especially in the dev section), and i'm getting fairly sick of my own behavior, so i thought, why not create a casual thread where we can chat about every aspect of the Ultra without crashing a thread?
Rules:
- Stay on topic
- Talk about whatever you want as long as it is about your device. Rooting, flashing, questions etc.
So, i rooted my ZU yesterday and i'm very happy with it. I installed Xposed Frameworks and changed some DPIs around (i wanted Chrome in tablet mode etc.). Have you rooted your Ultra, or are you waiting? Or something totally different?

Rooted mine the day I bought it
Waiting for a recovery for .532, also a deodexed rom of this firmware. :3

methodbeat said:
Rooted mine the day I bought it
Waiting for a recovery for .532, also a deodexed rom of this firmware. :3
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Have you tried ParanoidAndroid or CM? I haven't yet, but i guess i'll flash one or both of them fairly soon, but i'm actually very pleased with the Sony ROM. It's stable (if we ignore the few bugs in it), i like the launcher, i love the Movie, Gallery and Music app (never ever thought that would be the case), and it's not heavily skinned like TW or the other trainwreck that is also known as LG.

LordManhattan said:
Have you tried ParanoidAndroid or CM? I haven't yet, but i guess i'll flash one or both of them fairly soon, but i'm actually very pleased with the Sony ROM. It's stable (if we ignore the few bugs in it), i like the launcher, i love the Movie, Gallery and Music app (never ever thought that would be the case), and it's not heavily skinned like TW or the other trainwreck that is also known as LG.
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I haven't yet. I'll do when CWM/TWRP is available for .532
Also, I couldn't agree more. Sony's UI is very pleasing indeed. To say, even my friends with S3s and S4s have flashed the ROMs with Sony's launcher.

I actually flashed the Sony launcher on my Note, but that felt.. wrong? So i went straight back to CM It's a different story now though! Did you get the dock bundled with your Ultra btw? What do you think of it? I wish it was a little heavier so i could just pull the Ultra out of it, but it's so light that i have to hold the dock when i pull it now. I guess i could open it and stuff it with something heavy (like lead?).

LordManhattan said:
Hi all,
This is a thread where we can chat "all things Ultra" without going off topic in other threads. I'm an expert in going off topic (especially in the dev section), and i'm getting fairly sick of my own behavior, so i thought, why not create a casual thread where we can chat about every aspect of the Ultra without crashing a thread?
Rules:
- Stay on topic
- Talk about whatever you want as long as it is about your device. Rooting, flashing, questions etc.
So, i rooted my ZU yesterday and i'm very happy with it. I installed Xposed Frameworks and changed some DPIs around (i wanted Chrome in tablet mode etc.). Have you rooted your Ultra, or are you waiting? Or something totally different?
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I guess I'll unlock the bootloader and root right away when my phone comes back from service.
I'm so desperate to have it back I went to a store today to see and try it and I brought with me a leaflet... :sad:
Anyway, I agree also, the Sony launcher is amongst the lightest I've seen, and it would be a burden to even install Nova or Go or something else.
AND, I was posting the same topic after reading your reply on the kernel one, so you got here first.
I'll share my sadness every single day my device is away, and worst of it is next week I'll receive the watch and SBH52, they'll throw them self out of the window when they'll see their present companion.......... The Mighty LG 2X............
I'll censure myself for the next words.
[email protected]@@@@@@@@@@@£?.
P.s. We sooooo needed this topic...
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LordManhattan said:
I actually flashed the Sony launcher on my Note, but that felt.. wrong? So i went straight back to CM It's a different story now though! Did you get the dock bundled with your Ultra btw? What do you think of it? I wish it was a little heavier so i could just pull the Ultra out of it, but it's so light that i have to hold the dock when i pull it now. I guess i could open it and stuff it with something heavy (like lead?).
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Nope, didn't get the dock bundled with it.
Oh btw, how about a marble layer?

fastest83 said:
I guess I'll unlock the bootloader and root right away when my phone comes back from service.
I'm so desperate to have it back I went to a store today to see and try it and I brought with me a leaflet... :sad:
Anyway, I agree also, the Sony launcher is amongst the lightest I've seen, and it would be a burden to even install Nova or Go or something else.
AND, I was posting the same topic after reading your reply on the kernel one, so you got here first.
I'll share my sadness every single day my device is away, and worst of it is next week I'll receive the watch and SBH52, they'll throw them self out of the window when they'll see their present companion.......... The Mighty LG 2X............
I'll censure myself for the next words.
[email protected]@@@@@@@@@@@£?.
P.s. We sooooo needed this topic...
Sent from my mother in law's horribly small, painfully slow, still at ICS LG 2X through XDApp
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I installed Nova three days ago. I have Prime, so i want to get my money's worth, but it doesn't look quite right? The app drawer looks normal, but the screen of the Ultra is so big, and the resolution is so high that the default app grid is set to 6x7 or something, which looks kind of ridiculous IMO. SO many icons! I changed it to something more normal like 5x6, but that looked absolutely ridiculous. I will choose Nova in the end, but i'm perfectly comfortable with Sony's launcher at this time, so i won't change it yet.

methodbeat said:
Nope, didn't get the dock bundled with it.
Oh btw, how about a marble layer?
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I guess marble would work too, yes. It would've been easy if i had marble floors, and had a piece left some place, but i have hardwood floors, and that won't cut it. I do however have a "piece" of lead, so that might work. I won't start with project Lead Dock today though, since i've had a couple of beers, and i've learned that it's not the smartest thing to start with a new project while having alcohol in my blood "Hey dude, that 1080 on roller skates looks easy! Hold my beer!"

Luvin the Ultra!! Had prime also but went back to stock. I had rooted it earlier on but went back.just waiting for a Rom that has some options for music. Had note 2 with Jedi x and was using voodoo sound..awesome app..i can get the volume up with headphones and keep it clear. hoping eventually something similar.

LordManhattan said:
I guess marble would work too, yes. It would've been easy if i had marble floors, and had a piece left some place, but i have hardwood floors, and that won't cut it. I do however have a "piece" of lead, so that might work. I won't start with project Lead Dock today though, since i've had a couple of beers, and i've learned that it's not the smartest thing to start with a new project while having alcohol in my blood "Hey dude, that 1080 on roller skates looks easy! Hold my beer!"
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Hahahah Project Lead Dock sounds cool

sh!t why new cyanogen build taking so long...
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LordManhattan said:
Have you tried ParanoidAndroid or CM? I haven't yet, but i guess i'll flash one or both of them fairly soon, but i'm actually very pleased with the Sony ROM. It's stable (if we ignore the few bugs in it), i like the launcher, i love the Movie, Gallery and Music app (never ever thought that would be the case), and it's not heavily skinned like TW or the other trainwreck that is also known as LG.
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After 2 days on Sony Rom I was pleasantly surprised (had sgs3 gt9300 before xzu) Now on PA and for a 1st beta its very smooth and stable. One thing I will say is though, I cant shake the feeling that sound (eg music thru headphones) is not a sharp/clear on PA and the display isnt as crisp on PA either . Ive backed up my TA partition stuff so will go back and check at some stage.
Chat thread :thumbup: - wanted to comment earlier but always worried about OT chat
Also, great to see the kernel building thread I'm currently playing with the stock rom in dsixda's rom building kitchen - hope to post a deodexed stock/small mods 532 rom when/if I get anything useful made.
sent from my Sony Xperia Z Ultra

I just bought my two days ago now playing the waiting game. I hope I am going to like it.

IAmBrock said:
I just bought my two days ago now playing the waiting game. I hope I am going to like it.
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Oh, you'll like it.

LordManhattan said:
Oh, you'll like it.
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How do you come out with these I honestly don't know... but I'm laughing my a$$ off...
Sent from my mother in law's horribly small, painfully slow, still at ICS LG 2X through XDApp

fastest83 said:
How do you come out with these I honestly don't know... but I'm laughing my a$$ off...
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I either google "reaction gif" or if i'm looking for something usable, like for my previous post, i searched for "Oh, you'll like it gif". It's easy if you know what you're looking for

LordManhattan said:
I either google "reaction gif" or if i'm looking for something usable, like for my previous post, i searched for "Oh, you'll like it gif". It's easy if you know what you're looking for
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Oh, I get it.
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fastest83 said:
Oh, I get it.
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LordManhattan said:
Oh, you'll like it.
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Lmao. Waiting sucks though!

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Epic Touch 4G (A.K.A: Galaxy S II) set for Sept. 9th release

So, with the chance of getting flamed or... flaming myself depending on the reaction to this. SprintFeed apparently got word that the Galaxy S II will be hitting Sprint first, on September 9th, ahead of all other carriers.
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/08/rumor-samsung-epic-touch-4g-releasing-september-9th/
There is the link.
Just thought any defectors would like the heads up. I personally am sticking with my 3Devo.
From the screenshots it looks to be the same phone. No concrete answer on if it's packing a Snapdragon which had been rumored or if it's sticking with Exynos. *Shrug* guess we shall find out.

Awesome, can't wait. Jk Samsung sucks.
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Damn Sprint is on a roll. Hopefully they get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. That's the only phone I'm interested in. The GS2 should of came out earlier. Samsung waited to long in my opinion, But nevertheless Sprint has a good line up this year.

demo27vol1 said:
Damn Sprint is on a roll. Hopefully they get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. That's the only phone I'm interested in. The GS2 should of came out earlier. Samsung waited to long in my opinion, But nevertheless Sprint has a good line up this year.
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Yeah, the only reason I can see why they waited was because of the pressure from Apple and it's "your phone looks like mah phone!" 6-year old meltdown of a lawsuit that has been going on. I dunno.

Any defectors are probably hanging out in the sgs2 forum where apparently the op needs to be.
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swaze said:
Any defectors are probably hanging out in the sgs2 forum where apparently the op needs to be.
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Oh snap you got me!.
Wow, I was all "general information" and you were like "Eat it, OP!"
and I was like "Oh snap!"

I was going to go the SGS2 route but it's just too little too late. The E3D in modded form can outpace a stock SGS2 easily...and the nPrime is right around the corner.
I used to love HTC and I've really grown to like the E3D General forum, y'all is cool peoples (most of the time)...but aside from the unlock fiasco I can't stand the ****ty radio and the strange behavior when powering on/off really makes me feel like one day it won't turn back on again....especially when I've seen it happen right in front of me.
...but I sure as hell will not post a thread here about it. Nothin' personal OP, just sayin'...

About time

daneurysm said:
I was going to go the SGS2 route but it's just too little too late. The E3D in modded form can outpace a stock SGS2 easily...and the nPrime is right around the corner.
I used to love HTC and I've really grown to like the E3D General forum, y'all is cool peoples (most of the time)...but aside from the unlock fiasco I can't stand the ****ty radio and the strange behavior when powering on/off really makes me feel like one day it won't turn back on again....especially when I've seen it happen right in front of me.
...but I sure as hell will not post a thread here about it. Nothin' personal OP, just sayin'...
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Well, I know a lot of people aren't happy with the Evo 3D, I decided to drop this nugget and see how it went. Like I said, I'm happy with my evo. My Radios don't suck too bad, only thing I have issue with is a Black SOD every 9hrs when using a custom kernel... which I can workaround with a stock kernel.
You're post is a little confusing. so... you're waiting for the nPrime?. that's how it sounded. That's looking to be an October release, it's being made by Samsung too. Which I find odd, I would think Motorola would be involved. I know it was just recently announced that Google was going to buy them, but...I assumed it was in the making to be some big lead up. oh well, probably next year.

I'd think I'd like it more if it didn't look like the iPhone had a retarded son.

felacio said:
You're post is a little confusing. so...
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You're confusing. And your justification for starting this thread is unfounded.

Yea another Samsung phone post in the Evo3d forum, to me its just trolling, and by page 5 it'll turn into another htc vs samsung tech flame fest.

felacio said:
Well, I know a lot of people aren't happy with the Evo 3D, I decided to drop this nugget and see how it went. Like I said, I'm happy with my evo. My Radios don't suck too bad, only thing I have issue with is a Black SOD every 9hrs when using a custom kernel... which I can workaround with a stock kernel.
You're post is a little confusing. so... you're waiting for the nPrime?. that's how it sounded. That's looking to be an October release, it's being made by Samsung too. Which I find odd, I would think Motorola would be involved. I know it was just recently announced that Google was going to buy them, but...I assumed it was in the making to be some big lead up. oh well, probably next year.
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Thank god I don't get the Black SOD...
Yeah, I'm waiting for the nPrime. It's being made by Samsung which, while at first really put me off but I did sport an NS4G for a few weeks last month. Aside from feeling cheap and too light--which most people wouldn't see as a down side--it was actually a fantastic phone. Great battery life, phenomenal camera and an unmatched Android experience. It did have the traditionally weak Samsung radio, but, it seems that you can't escape that anymore.
...and so far as Motorola is concerned Google has assured it's partners that the bidding process for the Nexus line would in fact remain the same. Google is saying all but "listen, we bought MMi for the patents. The Set-top-box and mobile manufacturing is just a plus, that we don't intend to use." Of course time will tell how true that is. For the time being I believe them.
However a Motorola built Nexus would probably be fantastic as long as they ditch that ****ty Pentile screen technology. I bet they would have class leading radios and battery life too.

daneurysm said:
Thank god I don't get the Black SOD...
Yeah, I'm waiting for the nPrime. It's being made by Samsung which, while at first really put me off but I did sport an NS4G for a few weeks last month. Aside from feeling cheap and too light--which most people wouldn't see as a down side--it was actually a fantastic phone. Great battery life, phenomenal camera and an unmatched Android experience. It did have the traditionally weak Samsung radio, but, it seems that you can't escape that anymore.
...and so far as Motorola is concerned Google has assured it's partners that the bidding process for the Nexus line would in fact remain the same. Google is saying all but "listen, we bought MMi for the patents. The Set-top-box and mobile manufacturing is just a plus, that we don't intend to use." Of course time will tell how true that is. For the time being I believe them.
However a Motorola built Nexus would probably be fantastic as long as they ditch that ****ty Pentile screen technology. I bet they would have class leading radios and battery life too.
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Yea MOTO isn't far from being a great phone manufacturer..they do have pretty good build quality and their radios are bar none..they have been in that game for a while..ditch all MOTO blur or map and the pentile..add some Google magic and we could have a winner in a few months.

phatmanxxl said:
Yea another Samsung phone post in the Evo3d forum, to me its just trolling, and by page 5 it'll turn into another htc vs samsung tech flame fest.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir!
Well, if (when) that happens, I'll be on the HTC side. totally didn't mean for it turn into a Vs. thread if (when) that happens. should I edit my initial post and say how stupid Samsung and the SGS2 is or just wait? lol

firmbiz94 said:
Yea MOTO isn't far from being a great phone manufacturer..they do have pretty good build quality and their radios are bar none..they have been in that game for a while..ditch all MOTO blur or map and the pentile..add some Google magic and we could have a winner in a few months.
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Agreed. Their designs are a bit stodgy looking, but their hardware (aside from those horrible screens and penchant for keyboards) is rock solid. They nearly invented cellular mobile phone technology. They have been doing mobile communications for as long as there has been a commercial mobile communications market. Their radios are fantastic. Build quality is always awesome. How many OG Droids do you still see around? Tons...and I have seen a lot that are beaten to death physically but still kicking ass, 2nd hand, 3rd hand...that says quite a bit.
Without knowing anything about the contents of their patent portfolio I am confident that it contains thousands of very relevant patents. I can't wait to see Google's next move.

I came from the Epic 4G to the Evo 3D. The main thing about Samsung was there slowwwwww release of updates. The Epic 4G rolled out with Eclair, took a while to get Froyo and is still awaiting Gingerbread. This really seem slow down ROM and kernel development. HTC seems pretty spot on with their OS updates.
I am waiting to see if Samsung support for their phones has improved. If it has, maybe I would consider going back. Until then, my Evo 3D is the shizzle.

felacio said:
ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir!
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Finding switch to Android SGS2 difficult. Advice?

Ok, so I sold my iPhone 4 in anticipation of the 5. While looking around came across the SGS2. Looked very nice so I got one. My first mistake was buying from pictures and not holding the device in my hand. From the moment I took the battery cover off, it's not been good. This thing feels like it should have cost £50 on ebay, it's just soo plastic and so thin, I'm afraid that when at work (i'm an engineer so lots of bending, squatting, laying etc) it's going to snap in two in my pocket. It's just "laggy" and "buggy" the keyboard is unresponsive, it feels like a resistive device, I have to knock it into and out of flight mode every few hours as it seems to lose it's data connection, touchwiz is just butt ugly, apps are butt ugly.
I love the "openness" of android, I love the "geekiness" and customisability of it. I love the fact I have 48GB of storage (even if the phone refuses to use the extra 32GB in any decent way)
I have had this phone for about 4-5 days and already I find myself picking it up to play with and throwing it back down again without unlocking the screen.
So, I have come here for some decent advice. I couldn't ask this question in an iPhone forum because the responses would be very biased, but, I have found on this forum, you generally get people's honest, unbiased opinion.
Should I get rid of this phone and wait for the iPhone 5? the one thing I miss about the iPhone is although it didn't necessarily do everything, what it did do worked, the apps I used looked good, the device felt well built and was always responsive. Am I expecting too much from the SGS2? will I get used to it? will I grow to love it?
feedback especially welcome from anyone that has came from an iPhone 4 to a SGS2 and can see my point of view?!
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From what I read, it looks like you are a real iPhone user. As a friend speaking, I would recommend you to go buy your phone as you will never be happy with another non-Apple device. Is the same like telling a BMW lover that Audi is better, he will still dream of the next M3 model. Asking advice here will not get you unbiased responses as we all love the S2, as well Android.
For example, I don't think at all the S2 feels like a cheap device. In fact, it contains top technology that blows any current phone on the market. Personally, I believe that Samsung hardware is better than iPhone and even if iPhone 5 is released it will not beat the current S2 at any level. Not to mention that Samsung will release another model that will make iPhone 5 look like a cheap toy.
What matters most is your opinion, not ours. Who cares if we like better the S2, what matters is what you like to use on a daily basis. If the iPhone makes you happier, go for it.
Cheers

jmpmjmpm said:
Ok, so I sold my iPhone 4 in anticipation of the 5. While looking around came across the SGS2. Looked very nice so I got one. My first mistake was buying from pictures and not holding the device in my hand. From the moment I took the battery cover off, it's not been good. This thing feels like it should have cost £50 on ebay, it's just soo plastic and so thin,
I am of the opposite view .
I'm afraid that when at work (i'm an engineer so lots of bending, squatting, laying etc) it's going to snap in two in my pocket.
Tests have shown thats unlikely .
It's just "laggy" and "buggy" the keyboard is unresponsive, it feels like a resistive device,
Not on mine maybe you have a fault .
Really you should not keep a phone you dont like or feel is wrong for you .
Thats why i dont own IPhone as i feel its inferior .
You feel the SGS2 is inferior sell it buy a cheap phone and wait for IPhone 5 is what i would do in your shoes .
jje
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should have known i would get a severely biased response
i have no loyalty to either, i buy the best, if its a pos I bin it, i have no probs doing that but before I make a decision, I would have liked some objective responses
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cheers JJegan, thats the type of opinion I am after (either way)
"From what I read, it looks like you are a real iPhone user"
Just wanted to add my recent device history is, htc hero>htc desire>iPhone 3gs (binned it and went back to desire)>iPhone 4>SGS2
so if anything, I've spend a LOT longer on android that ios I'm not a "real" iPhone user, I'm a "realist" be that on android or ios

Sell the SII, buy the Iphone 5. It's obvious you won't feel happy with Samsung. Replies are not biased at all, we just read your comment and saw you gave no plus for SII, so why would you keep it, when, based on your description, SII is a crap phone ?

Clearly iAddicted, you should stay with apple and never test something else
For a Sammy GS2 you need to be a FlashAholic and be able to handle the user freedom of modding and stuff (this part makes the GS2 for me the place to be and never go for a iphone).
On topic, that backplate is very solid though it look fragile, seen some tests on youtube with tons of extreme bending and folding, it was still in perfect afterwards.

In fairness this poster doesn't seem like your average Apple fanboy who appear on these forums from time to time talking crap i do believe this poster is genuine.
Coming from an iPhone to Android is a bit like having sex for the first time a very new experience and for some it's excellent and for others it's not been as good.
What former iPhone users who have just "graduated" to Android have to understand is that it is a very different concept, not everything is spick and span and ready to go, you do have to take a bit of time out and customize your phone and apply various tweaks,etc,etc,etc, eventually your Galaxy S2 will be absolutely amazing,read up on here extensively, for a start i highly recommend downloading Titanium Backup PRO and freezing all Samsung Apps your battery life will increase ten fold, it goes without saying you should root your phone and apply a custom ROM, there are many good ROM's personally the best ive ever had is the one in my signature, there can be no denying that the Galaxy S2 blows any other smartphone out of the water but don't just take my view for it or people on these forums one only has to read the countless reviews from trusted Tech websites online to tell you this,Android is the way forward why do you think they are continually outselling iPhones, people are finally realising that open source and being able to flash custom ROM's and customize your phone is the way to go rather than be locked down to whatever Apple tell you.
To conclude - OP take a lot of time to read what is on these forums, i spent 3 weeks reading up here before i even had a Galaxy S2 so id would be more clued up and know what to do to make your phone even more amazing.

lol at people *****ing at the OP. Have you actually read his post or just seen the iphone mentioned and jumped on the bandwagon of abusing the guy.
OP, all the faults you mention, (apart from the feeling plastic bit which is subjective and took me a little while to get used to how light and thin this phone is), are not generally in most peoples phones. Where did you buy it from as it sounds more likely that you have a faulty one to me. You could try factory resetting it and seeing if that helps but if you bought it new id get it swapped asap if i were you.
If you dont like the keyboard, download a different one. I use smart keyboard pro and that has a iphone style keypad that works perfectly well. Not sure what you mean by the apps are butt ugly though. Do you mean just the icons or you cant find apps you like? As for touchwiz, use a different launcher. I like launcher pro but a lot of people prefer GOlauncher.
The beauty of android is you customise it how you wish to, not how apple wishes you to.
But first things first you need to sort out the laggy and buggy aspect as that shouldnt be there.

i was like yourself. sold my iphone 4 which i loved to death and i pimped it up through jailbreaking it and was looking for which phone to go next...The S2 was the one for me. Picked it up when it first came and my first thoughts were what a piece of plastic ****....
But i have grown to love it. with a good case it feels solid in your hands and the size of the screen is just about right. funnily enough i even swapped it in the start for a htc sensation but because i could not customise it with roms i wanted this bad boy back straight away.. now i have it i cant live with out it.
So many new phones are coming out now but i will eagerly await when the S3 comes out. The handset does what i want it to do, it has HD recording and plenty of space in the memory department..
So my advice give it time and you will grow to love it...But if you feel that its not right for you then sell it and get the iphone when it comes out...I for one turned from the darkside to the light

jonny68 said:
What former iPhone users who have just "graduated" to Android have to understand is that it is a very different concept, not everything is spick and span and ready to go, you do have to take a bit of time out and customize your phone...
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I run the latest KI3 2.3.5 stock firmware and there is a difference from day and night, compared to KG2 that my phone came with. Android evolves so fast and with every new release is so much better that is hard to even keep up with it. Hell, other companies would of probably label that version 2.4.0, not just a minor bug release.
I wish every company would dedicate their efforts in perfecting software like Google does. Let's look at performance differences between 2.3.4 and 2.3.5, is incomparable. Quadrant pushes at 4200+ on S2, the phone is smooth as silk and super responsive while the battery life is further improved. What more could I ask for?
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hey [OP] you clearly hate the device... no probs.. just ship it to me.. i will thank your OP..

Congrats op, you just described my exact feelings about every Samsung phone I've ever looked at. A little advice: get a HTC phone, root it, and flash miui. You'll never go back to apple.
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fellas, thanks for some really good feedback. The jury is still out on the phone. I'm hoping as I become more "in tune" with android again, I will realise that it's a good device. I also plan on flashing a new rom, to get away from the stock. It may well be what is responsible for the "buggy" experience I'm having (especially seeing as several of you say this isn't normal )
On that subject, is there a favourite rom I can try? I've had a look around and am a little confused, i.e. different kernels, kernels separate from rom's, cyanogen, miui??? I rooted the phone with cf's root, but then that isn't compatible with rom manager? litening rom looks quite good?!
when I had my desire I dont remember having kernels separate from rom's, or having to check compatibility. Anyone know of a good re-introduction type thread or blog etc which explains all this stuff?
cheers

jmpmjmpm said:
fellas, thanks for some really good feedback. The jury is still out on the phone. I'm hoping as I become more "in tune" with android again, I will realise that it's a good device. I also plan on flashing a new rom, to get away from the stock. It may well be what is responsible for the "buggy" experience I'm having (especially seeing as several of you say this isn't normal )
On that subject, is there a favourite rom I can try? I've had a look around and am a little confused, i.e. different kernels, kernels separate from rom's, cyanogen, miui??? I rooted the phone with cf's root, but then that isn't compatible with rom manager? litening rom looks quite good?!
when I had my desire I dont remember having kernels separate from rom's, or having to check compatibility. Anyone know of a good re-introduction type thread or blog etc which explains all this stuff?
cheers
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if you check on each roms thread in the first page it has all the answers to the questions you have regarding installing the rom on their buddy. have a look and do a bit of research and you be good to go...no point me saying which rom is best and how you install it go into the development sections and go on to the rom you fancy and read through the first pages

just a quick update guys, I installed litening rom and only been using it for 10 mins but the difference if like night and day, now the phone is fast and responsive. I can type a quickly and accurately as with the my ole iphone.
so... seems maybe a lot of the issues were a fault with my carrier branded stock rom. Thanks for identifying this for me guys. I also bought a nice lil case from amazon, it's nothing supreme but built well, with a built in flip out stand so, now the phone feels a lot better in the hand.
Quite a bit happier now, I really appreciate the time a lot of you took to help what probably seemed like (to use a linuxism) YAIFT (yet another iphone fanboi troll)
cheers

jmpmjmpm said:
just a quick update guys, I installed litening rom and only been using it for 10 mins but the difference if like night and day, now the phone is fast and responsive. I can type a quickly and accurately as with the my ole iphone.
so... seems maybe a lot of the issues were a fault with my carrier branded stock rom. Thanks for identifying this for me guys. I also bought a nice lil case from amazon, it's nothing supreme but built well, with a built in flip out stand so, now the phone feels a lot better in the hand.
Quite a bit happier now, I really appreciate the time a lot of you took to help what probably seemed like (to use a linuxism) YAIFT (yet another iphone fanboi troll)
cheers
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Lol... I used iPhone for a year, I understand what you're going through, but the freedom is amazing here with android. It's your device, do what you feel like with it, change complete os, launchers, lockscreens, skies the limit
You should give miui a shot as well, I love it and highly recommend it.
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Not drolling for ICS...

... and before I continue I know that the overwhelming consensus is WE WANT ICS! I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats.... but...
Maybe its b/c I am fairly new to both Android and Gingerbread. Having grown tired of the jailbreak cycle of the iPhone, I switched (reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet) to the Skyrocket late last year. Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to square one.
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc. My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO), just like new releases of iOS on my jailbroken 3GS. There was always something that would never work again even after I re-JB it and reinstalled all my JB apps. So after awhile I just stopped updating my 3GS.
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great, but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?

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BlackZenith said:
... and before I continue I know that the overwhelming consensus is WE WANT ICS! I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats.... but...
Maybe its b/c I am fairly new to both Android and Gingerbread. Having grown tired of the jailbreak cycle of the iPhone, I switched (reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet) to the Skyrocket late last year. Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to sqauare one.
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc. My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO), just like new releases of iOS on my jailbroken 3GS. There was always something that would never work again even after I re-JB it and reinstalled all my JB apps. So after awhile I just stopped updating my 3GS.
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great, but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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IMHO, you are on the right thought path here, which I say only from some past experience with ICS. <-- I realize this is a totally subjective statement, but you have to understand that ICS essentially turned my dying Captivate into a very nimble little device, so if anyone should be singing the praises of ICS, you'd think I would, but not so much...
The user experience is nice, fluid and definitely different from GB, but it does not turn GB on its head from any perspective or by any means.
I do like the different alternative launchers (Trebuchet to a degree and Nova for sure) and I also like the clean look of ICS as well as that it ran smoother and with fewer hiccups on my old Captivate than the damn stock firmware had. lol
However, I think a lot of the core functionality that I liked of ICS came from the Cyanogen underlayment (in other words, all the custom tweaks such as status bar, notification widgets, etc.) but a lot if not all of the same custom tweeks I'm sure will be available in any developed ROM for the Note, whether GB or ICS. Matter of fact, we're already seeing a lot of this in the couple of ROMs that are out there (Saurom, etc.)
At this point, I'm more curious and interested to see what JellyBean (5.0) has in store, and am anxious for Q4 to roll around which I believe is when it's tentatively scheduled for release.
-Ryan

and it's ridiculous that the US Note didn't come with it.[/QUOTE said:
Although i stand by my earlier statement, I do agree with this...
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Gingerbread was juste not made for those 720p screen, believe me, I come from a GNexus and ICS is going to be alot better for the note than GingerBread, ICS is alot more fluidband more interactive too.
Returning to Gingerbread when I got ICS since day one (I also had a Nexus S ) is a pain.

BlackZenith said:
I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats....
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Many of us are coming from devices that had ICS, so we know what we’re waiting for and that we like it.
BlackZenith said:
(reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet)
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You’re right, they should be more like apple and charge you for having their nose in all your data and activity (BTW, everything you whisper to siri goes straight to apple servers for translation, same for all major voice recognition software)
BlackZenith said:
Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to sqauare one.
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If you don’t like going back to square one, why in the world are you messing with customizing your phone? It’s a fact of life, that’s why the android fairey invented Titanium Backup and external SD cards!
BlackZenith said:
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc.
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Yea, the phone could have been buggy when you bought it (some peoples were actually) and any ROM you load could be buggy, any mod you make could make it buggy, flashing kernals and radios and ROMS can brick your phone, this is ok but a factory OS update scares you?
BlackZenith said:
My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO)
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Not trying to nit-pick here, but how can you predict the future as an opinion? And even better, follow it up with...
BlackZenith said:
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great,
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BlackZenith said:
but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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Then when the update is out, don’t update it. Rooting generally breaks the update anyways, so you should be good if you’ve already done so. If not, then simply flash back to stock. Eazy Peazy.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m really not harping on you. Your post is a rarity here in that it speaks of ICS and not belly aching about what you were told and that you demand it and then all the international owners chime in and say “BUT BUT BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OURS NOT YOURS…cause cause cause ours is ba-ba-better!!!!”. I’m just trying to share my take on this after I peeled my palm from my forehead as there is a lot of conflicting opinions in your post. Going from one OS to the next is the lifecycle of android. I remember getting 1.5 (cupcake, first named release), it took me by surprise, I thought “a phone that’s getting a major face life? Cool” and the addiction was all down hill from there. Each iteration represents all new cool things to discover, reasons why I lay down in bed at 10, but don’t put my phone down till 1230 then drag myself out of bed at 430 the next morning cursing my ADD mentality in relation to tech. It’s just the way it is for a lot of us.

Chief Geek said:
You’re right, they should be more like apple and charge you for having their nose in all your data and activity (BTW, everything you whisper to siri goes straight to apple servers for translation, same for all major voice recognition software)
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Good grief, my reference to Skynet was a joke. If I truly believed that I would have never bought a Android phone. Besides, even in the Driod Bionic commericials they say the it's the first phone to be "self aware". And who said anything about Apple or Siri being apart of the human resistance against the machines?
Chief Geek said:
If you don’t like going back to square one, why in the world are you messing with customizing your phone? It’s a fact of life, that’s why the android fairey invented Titanium Backup and external SD cards!
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And how are my statements "conflicting"? You ask why would I customize my phone (i.e. anything non stock) if I am worried about going back to square one? Your statement is conflicting when in the same sentence you speak of using TB. How in the world can I use TB if I am stock??? If anything the only way I can keep from updating my phone is by being non-stock before AT&T attempts to push an update to my phone.
Chief Geek said:
Yea, the phone could have been buggy when you bought it (some peoples were actually) and any ROM you load could be buggy, any mod you make could make it buggy, flashing kernals and radios and ROMS can brick your phone, this is ok but a factory OS update scares you?
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Yes a factory update "scares" me (lol good one) only b/c my custom setup is working great... better than it did factory.
Chief Geek said:
Not trying to nit-pick here, but how can you predict the future as an opinion? And even better, follow it up with...
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You are nit-piking lol. You've dissected my ENTIRE post smh. I will answer your question with a question: "How can I predict the future as a fact!?" I only say "IMO" b/c I have not used ICS. I can predict the future based off the past. Android is known for being "buggy" with a fragmented ecosystem and marketplace. As far as I am concerned Gingerbread is a mature OS compared to ICS.
Chief Geek said:
Then when the update is out, don’t update it. Rooting generally breaks the update anyways, so you should be good if you’ve already done so. If not, then simply flash back to stock. Eazy Peazy.
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How about I do you one better. I have frozen the "Device Management" app on my phone. The day you guys stop complaining about ICS problems (Stock/Custom) is the day I will unfreeze it...
Chief Geek said:
Don’t get me wrong, I’m really not harping on you. Your post is a rarity here in that it speaks of ICS and not belly aching about what you were told and that you demand it and then all the international owners chime in and say “BUT BUT BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OURS NOT YOURS…cause cause cause ours is ba-ba-better!!!!”. I’m just trying to share my take on this after I peeled my palm from my forehead as there is a lot of conflicting opinions in your post. Going from one OS to the next is the lifecycle of android. I remember getting 1.5 (cupcake, first named release), it took me by surprise, I thought “a phone that’s getting a major face life? Cool” and the addiction was all down hill from there. Each iteration represents all new cool things to discover, reasons why I lay down in bed at 10, but don’t put my phone down till 1230 then drag myself out of bed at 430 the next morning cursing my ADD mentality in relation to tech. It’s just the way it is for a lot of us.
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*Sighs* Even after all that you have given me no tangible features ICS has over GB. You sir need to put your phone down and get some sleep.

Wonder if a metal battery door would serve as a tin foil hat for your note just incase the ics invasion does happen.
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mark1s said:
Gingerbread was juste not made for those 720p screen, believe me, I come from a GNexus and ICS is going to be alot better for the note than GingerBread, ICS is alot more fluidband more interactive too.
Returning to Gingerbread when I got ICS since day one (I also had a Nexus S ) is a pain.
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Totally agree, gingerbread absolutely blows after having a factory ICS device.

Chief Geek said:
Wonder if a metal battery door would serve as a tin foil hat for your note just incase the ics invasion does happen.
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Haha that was funny. This may be extremely farfetched, but i wonder if we could port ICS off of the vivid. It may be possible... Same processor and all. Rest will be different though.

Lol but why does it blow. ... Im kinda with OP but dont mind setting phone up 3 times a day but still the point stands what is so much better with ICS i just here "it just is" come on now we are all android fans and that is the arguement iphone fans try and use that we tease about lol. So lets get some real life experience to really say what makes it head over heals better .
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u921333 said:
Lol but why does it blow. ... Im kinda with OP but dont mind setting phone up 3 times a day but still the point stands what is so much better with ICS i just here "it just is" come on now we are all android fans and that is the arguement iphone fans try and use that we tease about lol. So lets get some real life experience to really say what makes it head over heals better .
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Ok, i guess I'll bite.
First, and foremost, it is far faster and smoother. You can interpret this as being more efficient depending on your definition. When ICS ROMs began maturing into daily drivers, it knocked the dust loose off of alot of our phones. My Vibrant, a first gen Galaxy S device, was given a great breath of life when it first saw the light of ICS. This alone is worth wanting ICS. My Vibrant became snappier and all together a pleasant experience again.
Second, it takes alot of the features that were in Honey Comb (a tablet only OS) and rolled them into a handset OS. This includes a bunch of small features that include things like Roboto Font and improvements in cameras and radios.
As iterations go by, you will notice alot of "add on" features become stock components of the OS. This is by no means exclusive to android, all OSs of all platforms do it. Its giving the customer what they want. Things like Screen shot and voice commands have long been missing and were added ala cart via the market and some specialty oem features (like us using the S-Pen to take screen grabs). So more and more of these are rolled into the OS to make it a smoother overall experience.
Next lets talk about NFC. It is, in my opinion, under utilized piece of technology that has been ignored for too long due to peoples fears of their data being stolen (while leaving other far more susceptible techs wide open like BT). ICS brings NFC to the table so those who have paid to have it in their device (hello note users) have the option of playing with it and even using it if in an area where this is possible.
Past the above, there are other refinements such as the cut and and paste being much easier, menus being easier to navigate, and an overall better experience. There really is nothing ground breaking like when multi touch entered the scene and other great new advances. ICS offers us a much more fluid OS to dive into. Yes it may be buggy when we first start playing with it. The experienced among us already know why, it's because we'll likely be running custom ROMs far before it's officially released or atleast before it gets pushed out to the masses. It won't be earth shattering, but it will be awesome to get alot of the cool features on a great device. It'll be different things to different people. Some may not even notice it other then it's bluer then normal.
Oh yea, and it's much purdier...

I think you mean drooling.

californiarailroader said:
I think you mean drooling.
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or trolling

This has my vote for the "thread of the week"!
I love it when phone geeks go back and forth......cause I find out things I never knew about...and everyone makes good points so we are all winners!
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Chief Geek said:
Ok, i guess I'll bite.
First, and foremost, it is far faster and smoother. You can interpret this as being more efficient depending on your definition. When ICS ROMs began maturing into daily drivers, it knocked the dust loose off of alot of our phones. My Vibrant, a first gen Galaxy S device, was given a great breath of life when it first saw the light of ICS. This alone is worth wanting ICS. My Vibrant became snappier and all together a pleasant experience again.
Second, it takes alot of the features that were in Honey Comb (a tablet only OS) and rolled them into a handset OS. This includes a bunch of small features that include things like Roboto Font and improvements in cameras and radios.
As iterations go by, you will notice alot of "add on" features become stock components of the OS. This is by no means exclusive to android, all OSs of all platforms do it. Its giving the customer what they want. Things like Screen shot and voice commands have long been missing and were added ala cart via the market and some specialty oem features (like us using the S-Pen to take screen grabs). So more and more of these are rolled into the OS to make it a smoother overall experience.
Next lets talk about NFC. It is, in my opinion, under utilized piece of technology that has been ignored for too long due to peoples fears of their data being stolen (while leaving other far more susceptible techs wide open like BT). ICS brings NFC to the table so those who have paid to have it in their device (hello note users) have the option of playing with it and even using it if in an area where this is possible.
Past the above, there are other refinements such as the cut and and paste being much easier, menus being easier to navigate, and an overall better experience. There really is nothing ground breaking like when multi touch entered the scene and other great new advances. ICS offers us a much more fluid OS to dive into. Yes it may be buggy when we first start playing with it. The experienced among us already know why, it's because we'll likely be running custom ROMs far before it's officially released or atleast before it gets pushed out to the masses. It won't be earth shattering, but it will be awesome to get alot of the cool features on a great device. It'll be different things to different people. Some may not even notice it other then it's bluer then normal.
Oh yea, and it's much purdier...
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Thank you .... that helps a lot better for someone who hasnt personally used ICS. Better then the "its just better" responses I heard.
Next Question I have is I know comparing Stock Gingerbread to Stock ICS the more Fluid response stands out from what I hear but what about Custom Rom Gingerbread to Stock ICS would we really get a smoother feel. I know that this all an opinion but man I am on the DAg's custom and I cant picture it getting much smoother.

u921333 said:
Thank you .... that helps a lot better for someone who hasnt personally used ICS. Better then the "its just better" responses I heard.
Next Question I have is I know comparing Stock Gingerbread to Stock ICS the more Fluid response stands out from what I hear but what about Custom Rom Gingerbread to Stock ICS would we really get a smoother feel. I know that this all an opinion but man I am on the DAg's custom and I cant picture it getting much smoother.
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The reason most people say "its just better" is because they dont realize all the little things done to make it better, they just realize the over all effect of being better. Perfect example is the new Roboto font, people dont realize its a new font, they just have an easier time reading.
As for my experience a mature custom rom is always better then a factory rom. They are slimmed down with little to no bloat and have been tailored to work better. But with all that said, you can't really pick a winner without knowing he contestants. I've used some awesome ROMs and some down right buggy ones, and the same goes for OEM ROMs. That's the great thing about ROMs though, you DL a hand full and start flashing untill you find yourself saying "ohh...now this is niiice"

My only thought from this thread is how much I hate the acronym "SMH".
On topic, coming from my captivate with CM9 Alpha, I personally, am drooling for ICS.

jwood55812 said:
My only thought from this thread is how much I hate the acronym "SMH".
On topic, coming from my captivate with CM9 Alpha, I personally, am drooling for ICS.
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I agree with both of your points, so much.
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Thoughts about future Dev support

I was thinking about picking this device up. Short of the bootloader unlock and recovery development is nil. That has me worried a bit. I might be spoiled as I am coming from a nexus and a sammy. Not asking for ETA's or anything jest wondering what you guys think is in store development wise.
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JustusIV said:
I was thinking about picking this device up. Short of the bootloader unlock and recovery development is nil. That has me worried a bit. I might be spoiled as I am coming from a nexus and a sammy. Not asking for ETA's or anything jest wondering what you guys think is in store development wise.
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Since most devs probably still haven't got their hands on one it's expected...
Only last week we've seen a major growth in G2 US owners (which are the first ones to get devices similar to the international version) and this month we'll see Europe-based people (including most devs, it seems) get their handful of G2 goodness.
This device will be very similar to the upcoming Nexus 5 (most internals are probably the same) so, if the Optimus G is any indication (and that one was underrated like hell), development will be great.
I'm not a (Android at least) dev though, so I can't really speak for them. Just my 2 cents.

Need AOSP ROMs
I am very concerned as well. If this phone doesn't get a a stock AOSP ROM with 4.3 and then 4.4 soon, I will probably sell it for the Nexus 5. There is just too much BS on the phone thanks to LG and AT&T.
The Messenger App and the Dialer App both very bad compared to stock Android. The Menu Button is horrible, and the fixes available only make the problem worse since they hide the menu button.
Also, 4.2.2 is nearly a year old now, and after 4.4 is released in a couple weeks, the G2 will be two major releases behind the Nexus Line.
My Verizon Galaxy Nexus has been running AOSP 4.3 since July.
Now of course LG has added some cool features, but unfortunately they over did it and ruined the messenger app and the dialer, the Google Now, the multitasking, the menu button, the lockscreen with bad apps on it.
I bought the Nexus One and the Galaxy Nexus the day they came out so I guess I am spoiled.
I love the hardware on the G2, but it needs stock ROMs bad!

currentsupply said:
I am very concerned as well. If this phone doesn't get a a stock AOSP ROM with 4.3 and then 4.4 soon, I will probably sell it for the Nexus 5. There is just too much BS on the phone thanks to LG and AT&T.
The Messenger App and the Dialer App both very bad compared to stock Android. The Menu Button is horrible, and the fixes available only make the problem worse since they hide the menu button.
Also, 4.2.2 is nearly a year old now, and after 4.4 is released in a couple weeks, the G2 will be two major releases behind the Nexus Line.
My Verizon Galaxy Nexus has been running AOSP 4.3 since July.
Now of course LG has added some cool features, but unfortunately they over did it and ruined the messenger app and the dialer, the Google Now, the multitasking, the menu button, the lockscreen with bad apps on it.
I bought the Nexus One and the Galaxy Nexus the day they came out so I guess I am spoiled.
I love the hardware on the G2, but it needs stock ROMs bad!
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I completely understand what you're saying, and as someone coming from a GNex myself I have enjoyed seemingly endless options for roms and kernels throughout its life. That said, it wasn't ever the best hardware, and in the end I decided that's what was most important to me as long as I could root the phone and modify what I wanted to on my own. I agree about the slide aside multitasking, messaging app, and menu button...but all of those are solved with not a whole lot of effort if you're rooted. I just got rid of the bloat (and bunch of LG's gestures), put the CM 10.1.3 mms apk that I themed black onto, and am running LMT in full-screen mode. There's still the white SystemUI and Settings stuff, but that doesn't bother me enough to spend the time to change it. Other than that I've got my G2 looking just like my GNex did, except it's running 10x faster, isn't running out of ram, is 200% better at holding onto LTE, and the battery...well, you know.
New versions of android won't come as fast, but I do think they'll come eventually. I was't even running 4.3 on my GNex b/c of all APN/signal issues it had. I want my phone to work more than anything.

xdabbeb said:
I completely understand what you're saying.....but all of those are solved with not a whole lot of effort if you're rooted. I just got rid of the bloat (and bunch of LG's gestures), put the CM 10.1.3 mms apk that I themed black onto, and am running LMT in full-screen mode.
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I'll do some research on how to install the CM mms apk app, not really sure how to do that, but the LG one is driving me nuts. What the heck was LG thinking, when you are in messaging you can barely see the messages, they are all covered up by a huge text box and the keyboard, and wasted space. Also you have to hit back a bunch of times and reopen messaging to get back to the messaging home to text somebody else. And then half the time it opens at the top of the thread and you have to scroooooooolll down. It's a total nightmare.
What do you mean by LMT in full-screen?
Thanks.

Download 8sms from play store its the CM messaging app for all devices. Everything works. I personally just wanted root and the black statusbar and im happy.
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I agree. It's awful and was driving me nuts for the same reasons so it was the first thing to go. I like sliding messaging as well, but it's a little heavier and still has quite a few bugs with regards to MMS that I didn't feel like waiting for them to fix.
I've attached the blacked-out one that I've been theming and using all along with 4.2.x It's just the latest CM 10.1.3 one that has the quick-reply feature, group messaging, emoji, etc. If you prefer white, then just pull it from a VZW-based (so it has the proper mms_config.xml) rom image...like the toro build. It needs to be installed to system. I odexed it as well, but that isn't necessary.
LMT is one of the more inventive and useful pieces of software I've used since I started with Android. Here's the thread to read up on it. It's the pie/gesture launcher that started it all (before PA, etc) and is far more powerful than any of the others. I use that and get rid of the softkey navigation bars at the bottom, so I have a lot more screen real estate.
Edit: attached Mms install requirements

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I am very concerned as well. If this phone doesn't get a a stock AOSP ROM with 4.3 and then 4.4 soon, I will probably sell it for the Nexus 5. There is just too much BS on the phone thanks to LG and AT&T.
The Messenger App and the Dialer App both very bad compared to stock Android. The Menu Button is horrible, and the fixes available only make the problem worse since they hide the menu button.
Also, 4.2.2 is nearly a year old now, and after 4.4 is released in a couple weeks, the G2 will be two major releases behind the Nexus Line.
My Verizon Galaxy Nexus has been running AOSP 4.3 since July.
Now of course LG has added some cool features, but unfortunately they over did it and ruined the messenger app and the dialer, the Google Now, the multitasking, the menu button, the lockscreen with bad apps on it.
I bought the Nexus One and the Galaxy Nexus the day they came out so I guess I am spoiled.
I love the hardware on the G2, but it needs stock ROMs bad!
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Glad I dont count!

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Glad I dont count!
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You count to me my friend! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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scrosler said:
Glad I dont count!
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You got this phone? Sweet....
How did you make the nav bar have the multi task button and does the menu button pop up when needed?
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Your sarcasm still burns deep

The perceived lack of developers could be solved if those complaining either learned a new hobby (developing) or donated phones or cash to those selfless developers we have.

So agree it comments above regarding root and roms. Coming from Galaxy Nexus too, I miss all the tinkering and trying out new roms too.
For now I just have to be satisfy with root and nova launcher, configuring the phone to look just like my old nexus.
The screen the cpu and the battery life of this phone runs circle around my nexus. Now if we have stock roms and timely update this will be the best device ever!
-LG G2

Dev here. Waiting for his G2. I would'nt worry about dev support too early on. I have said this before and Ill say it again as it is relevant. G2 is SnapDragon 800 just like the Z1, Note III, S4 I9505 - A and the Nexus 5 are also 800. Meaning our developer support can merge into theirs if needed.

Bump on my nav bar multi task question. Someone posted a screen shot of it.... How did you do it?
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JustusIV said:
You got this phone? Sweet....
How did you make the nav bar have the multi task button and does the menu button pop up when needed?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463459
Yeah, for apps that don't have an overflow button, the menu button will appear at the bottom, above the normal navigation buttons. Most apps tend to have the action overflow though.

JustusIV said:
Bump on my nav bar multi task question. Someone posted a screen shot of it.... How did you do it?
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Might want to do a bit of research next time in the Android Development threads for your carrier. All the questions you have posed so far about development support could have been answered.
The phone has just been released a few weeks ago and development started a few days after the Verizon and ATT variants were released. So if this is not enough evidence for you that there will be developer support for this phone, then you are probably better off with the Nexus 5.

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What font and icons are you using?

markcyst said:
The perceived lack of developers could be solved if those complaining either learned a new hobby (developing) or donated phones or cash to those selfless developers we have.
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Exactly. With new phones coming out so often it gets very expensive to keep buying them. Donations after the fact don't come close to covering the full price of the phone, hosting, etc. I give the people that are still developing a load of credit because it isn't easy, it takes time away from more important things and the users can be a pain.
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Development for our device is very poor.

Seeing the development forum and the original I come to the conclusion that its to difficult or this device is not popular with devs. I coming from Samsung s4 and there the custom roms are many and updated each month.

The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what "niche" means

I'm here
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LordManhattan said:
The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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Yep that's true can't argue with that. S4 is a horrible device so that's why I dumped it

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I'm here
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Thank god for that! Also Kali checks in now and then, FXP is present, and there are the ones over at the Z1 section.
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zllovesuki said:
I'm sorry, I don't understand what "niche" means
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As in a situation in which a business' products or services can succeed by being sold to a particular kind or group of people (which in this case is us), or the short version "a specialized market". The Galaxy Note started out as a niche product, and now it's "mainstream".

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Thank god for that! Also Kali checks in now and then, FXP is present, and there are the ones over at the Z1 section.
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As in a situation in which a business' products or services can succeed by being sold to a particular kind or group of people (which in this case is us), or the short version "a specialized market". The Galaxy Note started out as a niche product, and now it's "mainstream".
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Just notified Kali about some changes I made to device tree for kitkat
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S4 is a horrible device so that's why I dumped it
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:good::good:

boterkaaseneieren said:
Seeing the development forum and the original I come to the conclusion that its to difficult or this device is not popular with devs. I coming from Samsung s4 and there the custom roms are many and updated each month.
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I'm making a ROM at the moment. Its 98% finished and should be up soon. I'm learning, and the "updater-script" has two status 7 errors that me and my testers are trying to solve. Its just a very slow process as my ultra is away so thats making the cooking/testing process so damn slow... and my unit take a month to get it fixed!
I hate living so bloody far away from the world!

Hopefully will see kernels that allow us to optimize the camera increase the sensitivity of the touchscreen.
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I'm making a ROM at the moment. Its 98% finished and should be up soon. I'm learning, and the "updater-script" has two status 7 errors that me and my testers are trying to solve. Its just a very slow process as my ultra is away so thats making the cooking/testing process so damn slow... and my unit take a month to get it fixed!
I hate living so bloody far away from the world!
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Delete the getprop files in the updater script.

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Delete the getprop files in the updater script.
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Not using any. Its setting the permissions thats proving a problem.
I'm boarding a plane as we speak, and will be back possibly tomorrow/ more than likely Sunday after debreif and all the paperwork.. So will have to wait until im back.

yeah the forum for z ultra is the most boring one ever, as its not 1% active as the samsung devices forums.
I respect all devs who try their best here, maybe there is not room for improvement on it that devs can add on
i miss the amazing themes i used to see on samsung devices while here we don't have themes we have wallpapers and such. At samsung i used to have themes that give me a feeling i own a new device whenever i change themes
devs at samsung forums are really very very engaged in dev and modding and everyday there is something new.
Flashing mods and roms was piece of cake at samsung while here we have to look at unlocking our boot loader which sucks, also I don't see any modded kernels and the huge dev as in samsung forums
I miss samsung if only i could sell the z ultra without losing money i would go back in a second to a samsung device

No offense dude, but stow it. Every single post you make, you're complaining about something, and it's invariably your fault for being disappointed. If you want themes, go check the Themes and Apps forum, there are plenty of different designs there. Or, just get the Themer app that's come out recently for one-touch theming.
Furthermore, complaining about unlocked your bootloader is ridiculous. It takes literally, all of 30 seconds once you get the email with your unlock code in it. Just do it, and quit whining. Or don't. Just quit whining, because the ability is there. We've got a very good Paranoid Android ROM, we've got 4.3 Carbon (which I have used a lot on my Nexus 4; it's good), we've got CyanogenMod 10.2, we've got PAC-Man ROM, we've even got a rapidly-improving AOSP 4.4 ROM. What more do you want? I guess if you don't like AOSP it sucks, but even then, we have two stock 4.2.2 ROMs if you just can't deal with vanilla Android for some reason.
Bottom line: there's not as much development for the XZU as for a company that has sold more than 100 MILLION DEVICES. Are you surprised? If so, it's your fault. Seriously, if you dropped $700 on this phone without knowing a single thing about it, I really have to question your general life skills.

Does this answer your question? The solution is not to buy yet another Samsung device. The solution is to support a different OEM, so Samsung doesn't rape the market even more.
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No offense dude, but stow it. Every single post you make, you're complaining about something, and it's invariably your fault for being disappointed. If you want themes, go check the Themes and Apps forum, there are plenty of different designs there. Or, just get the Themer app that's come out recently for one-touch theming.
Furthermore, complaining about unlocked your bootloader is ridiculous. It takes literally, all of 30 seconds once you get the email with your unlock code in it. Just do it, and quit whining. Or don't. Just quit whining, because the ability is there. We've got a very good Paranoid Android ROM, we've got 4.3 Carbon (which I have used a lot on my Nexus 4; it's good), we've got CyanogenMod 10.2, we've got PAC-Man ROM, we've even got a rapidly-improving AOSP 4.4 ROM. What more do you want? I guess if you don't like AOSP it sucks, but even then, we have two stock 4.2.2 ROMs if you just can't deal with vanilla Android for some reason.
Bottom line: there's not as much development for the XZU as for a company that has sold more than 100 MILLION DEVICES. Are you surprised? If so, it's your fault. Seriously, if you dropped $700 on this phone without knowing a single thing about it, I really have to question your general life skills.
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as usual fanboy answer hahahahahahahha u make me crack you are 100% fanboy, do u wear a T-shirt with sony logo on it

Yeah that's right, just ignore everything I said. It makes you look real good.
Please continue indiscriminately buying phones without knowing anything about them, but don't blame other people for your stupid mistakes.

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as usual fanboy answer hahahahahahahha u make me crack you are 100% fanboy, do u wear a T-shirt with sony logo on it
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You're exactly 3 seconds away from being reported. Why don't you just give the Ultra back to your dad and ask him if you can get the Note 3 for christmas or something? Or even better, get a job as a paperboy and save up some money

hykhleif said:
yeah the forum for z ultra is the most boring one ever, as its not 1% active as the samsung devices forums.
I respect all devs who try their best here, maybe there is not room for improvement on it that devs can add on
i miss the amazing themes i used to see on samsung devices while here we don't have themes we have wallpapers and such. At samsung i used to have themes that give me a feeling i own a new device whenever i change themes
devs at samsung forums are really very very engaged in dev and modding and everyday there is something new.
Flashing mods and roms was piece of cake at samsung while here we have to look at unlocking our boot loader which sucks, also I don't see any modded kernels and the huge dev as in samsung forums
I miss samsung if only i could sell the z ultra without losing money i would go back in a second to a samsung device
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Theme? Don't know why but imho, Sony UI doesn't need any other theme. I bet you i never got bored whenever Sony's UI is on. On the other hand, Android stock theme will get boring over time. So the ability to choose theme is a must for them. Samsung TouchWiz? Yuck, no wonder you need to change the theme If you insist, there's always an aftermarket launcher so no excuse to say the theme selection is too limited.
Every exploit comes with a root so if Samsung phones are easier to root, CMIIW but it is prone to be attacked by hacker. So that's two sides of coin actually.. When you're able to get root, you can question the security of the device. So it is a great progression and care by Sony to patch the software even though you have to compromise for no root. But you do insist to have root don't you? well unlocking bootloader is the way then.

Just checked his previous threads and the conclusion is that he's that guy. You know, the whiner. He even whined in the Note 2, and S3 section. He's just an intolerant, sad and bored individual.

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