Seeing the development forum and the original I come to the conclusion that its to difficult or this device is not popular with devs. I coming from Samsung s4 and there the custom roms are many and updated each month.
The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what "niche" means
I'm here
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The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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Yep that's true can't argue with that. S4 is a horrible device so that's why I dumped it
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Thank god for that! Also Kali checks in now and then, FXP is present, and there are the ones over at the Z1 section.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what "niche" means
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As in a situation in which a business' products or services can succeed by being sold to a particular kind or group of people (which in this case is us), or the short version "a specialized market". The Galaxy Note started out as a niche product, and now it's "mainstream".
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Thank god for that! Also Kali checks in now and then, FXP is present, and there are the ones over at the Z1 section.
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As in a situation in which a business' products or services can succeed by being sold to a particular kind or group of people (which in this case is us), or the short version "a specialized market". The Galaxy Note started out as a niche product, and now it's "mainstream".
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Just notified Kali about some changes I made to device tree for kitkat
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S4 is a horrible device so that's why I dumped it
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boterkaaseneieren said:
Seeing the development forum and the original I come to the conclusion that its to difficult or this device is not popular with devs. I coming from Samsung s4 and there the custom roms are many and updated each month.
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I'm making a ROM at the moment. Its 98% finished and should be up soon. I'm learning, and the "updater-script" has two status 7 errors that me and my testers are trying to solve. Its just a very slow process as my ultra is away so thats making the cooking/testing process so damn slow... and my unit take a month to get it fixed!
I hate living so bloody far away from the world!
Hopefully will see kernels that allow us to optimize the camera increase the sensitivity of the touchscreen.
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On mobile....
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I'm making a ROM at the moment. Its 98% finished and should be up soon. I'm learning, and the "updater-script" has two status 7 errors that me and my testers are trying to solve. Its just a very slow process as my ultra is away so thats making the cooking/testing process so damn slow... and my unit take a month to get it fixed!
I hate living so bloody far away from the world!
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Delete the getprop files in the updater script.
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Delete the getprop files in the updater script.
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Not using any. Its setting the permissions thats proving a problem.
I'm boarding a plane as we speak, and will be back possibly tomorrow/ more than likely Sunday after debreif and all the paperwork.. So will have to wait until im back.
yeah the forum for z ultra is the most boring one ever, as its not 1% active as the samsung devices forums.
I respect all devs who try their best here, maybe there is not room for improvement on it that devs can add on
i miss the amazing themes i used to see on samsung devices while here we don't have themes we have wallpapers and such. At samsung i used to have themes that give me a feeling i own a new device whenever i change themes
devs at samsung forums are really very very engaged in dev and modding and everyday there is something new.
Flashing mods and roms was piece of cake at samsung while here we have to look at unlocking our boot loader which sucks, also I don't see any modded kernels and the huge dev as in samsung forums
I miss samsung if only i could sell the z ultra without losing money i would go back in a second to a samsung device
No offense dude, but stow it. Every single post you make, you're complaining about something, and it's invariably your fault for being disappointed. If you want themes, go check the Themes and Apps forum, there are plenty of different designs there. Or, just get the Themer app that's come out recently for one-touch theming.
Furthermore, complaining about unlocked your bootloader is ridiculous. It takes literally, all of 30 seconds once you get the email with your unlock code in it. Just do it, and quit whining. Or don't. Just quit whining, because the ability is there. We've got a very good Paranoid Android ROM, we've got 4.3 Carbon (which I have used a lot on my Nexus 4; it's good), we've got CyanogenMod 10.2, we've got PAC-Man ROM, we've even got a rapidly-improving AOSP 4.4 ROM. What more do you want? I guess if you don't like AOSP it sucks, but even then, we have two stock 4.2.2 ROMs if you just can't deal with vanilla Android for some reason.
Bottom line: there's not as much development for the XZU as for a company that has sold more than 100 MILLION DEVICES. Are you surprised? If so, it's your fault. Seriously, if you dropped $700 on this phone without knowing a single thing about it, I really have to question your general life skills.
Does this answer your question? The solution is not to buy yet another Samsung device. The solution is to support a different OEM, so Samsung doesn't rape the market even more.
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No offense dude, but stow it. Every single post you make, you're complaining about something, and it's invariably your fault for being disappointed. If you want themes, go check the Themes and Apps forum, there are plenty of different designs there. Or, just get the Themer app that's come out recently for one-touch theming.
Furthermore, complaining about unlocked your bootloader is ridiculous. It takes literally, all of 30 seconds once you get the email with your unlock code in it. Just do it, and quit whining. Or don't. Just quit whining, because the ability is there. We've got a very good Paranoid Android ROM, we've got 4.3 Carbon (which I have used a lot on my Nexus 4; it's good), we've got CyanogenMod 10.2, we've got PAC-Man ROM, we've even got a rapidly-improving AOSP 4.4 ROM. What more do you want? I guess if you don't like AOSP it sucks, but even then, we have two stock 4.2.2 ROMs if you just can't deal with vanilla Android for some reason.
Bottom line: there's not as much development for the XZU as for a company that has sold more than 100 MILLION DEVICES. Are you surprised? If so, it's your fault. Seriously, if you dropped $700 on this phone without knowing a single thing about it, I really have to question your general life skills.
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as usual fanboy answer hahahahahahahha u make me crack you are 100% fanboy, do u wear a T-shirt with sony logo on it
Yeah that's right, just ignore everything I said. It makes you look real good.
Please continue indiscriminately buying phones without knowing anything about them, but don't blame other people for your stupid mistakes.
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as usual fanboy answer hahahahahahahha u make me crack you are 100% fanboy, do u wear a T-shirt with sony logo on it
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You're exactly 3 seconds away from being reported. Why don't you just give the Ultra back to your dad and ask him if you can get the Note 3 for christmas or something? Or even better, get a job as a paperboy and save up some money
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yeah the forum for z ultra is the most boring one ever, as its not 1% active as the samsung devices forums.
I respect all devs who try their best here, maybe there is not room for improvement on it that devs can add on
i miss the amazing themes i used to see on samsung devices while here we don't have themes we have wallpapers and such. At samsung i used to have themes that give me a feeling i own a new device whenever i change themes
devs at samsung forums are really very very engaged in dev and modding and everyday there is something new.
Flashing mods and roms was piece of cake at samsung while here we have to look at unlocking our boot loader which sucks, also I don't see any modded kernels and the huge dev as in samsung forums
I miss samsung if only i could sell the z ultra without losing money i would go back in a second to a samsung device
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Theme? Don't know why but imho, Sony UI doesn't need any other theme. I bet you i never got bored whenever Sony's UI is on. On the other hand, Android stock theme will get boring over time. So the ability to choose theme is a must for them. Samsung TouchWiz? Yuck, no wonder you need to change the theme If you insist, there's always an aftermarket launcher so no excuse to say the theme selection is too limited.
Every exploit comes with a root so if Samsung phones are easier to root, CMIIW but it is prone to be attacked by hacker. So that's two sides of coin actually.. When you're able to get root, you can question the security of the device. So it is a great progression and care by Sony to patch the software even though you have to compromise for no root. But you do insist to have root don't you? well unlocking bootloader is the way then.
Just checked his previous threads and the conclusion is that he's that guy. You know, the whiner. He even whined in the Note 2, and S3 section. He's just an intolerant, sad and bored individual.
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I ran across this and I have to admit it looks pretty sick I can't wait... http://m.pocketnow.com/android/samsung-shows-off-premium-suite-apps-in-new-galaxy-note-video
Galaxy Note
Looks good. Too bad I am just a bad artist.
Looks great, Might be converting over soon... "The forces of this phone has proven to be a worthy opponent against my mind" lol!
Can't go wrong with the note...
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Can't go wrong with the note...
Galaxy Note
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Agreed, I'm about ready to turn the chapter on my streak
This video has been around in the other Note forum for a while.
Frankly, it's a tease. There's something about Smasung's promises that are worth just about nothing.
For all we know, they may discontinue this product before we see anything.
I have had the Note for ages, and be the time they release anything it will be obsolete.
Heck, in Smasung's mindset, things are obsolete even BEFORE they're released
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This video has been around in the other Note forum for a while.
Frankly, it's a tease. There's something about Smasung's promises that are worth just about nothing.
For all we know, they may discontinue this product before we see anything.
I have had the Note for ages, and be the time they release anything it will be obsolete.
Heck, in Smasung's mindset, things are obsolete even BEFORE they're released
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So you come from an iPhone to the Note and you automatically know everything about Samsung devices? Hmmm.
In my experience with the Captivate and Infuse, Samsung may be slow to release stuff, but they eventually get around to it. The Captivate started on 2.1, and they eventually got it to 2.2 and 2.3. The Infuse started with 2.2 and had 2.3 for a while, but they pulled it due to some issues; it will be back eventually. And that's just official updates. Samsung phones have great developer support her, my Captivate has ICS running on it, and the Infuse does now too. Premium Suite will come out when they release the official Samsung ICS for the International Note. And how can you say they are making the Note obsolete before it came out? It's still arguably the best device out there right now. And the ATT Note has been out for what, 2 months, yet we already have a stable ICS leak? Ok. I would say that's pretty damn good due to the fact that most phones don't have ICS yet, and the Note was in development before ICS was officially released anyways....therefore of course it's going to have GB when it was released.
I love how previous iPhone users think that they have the best support...One phone a year...one 'major' software upgrade a year. And no fragmentation? Hah. Bold faced lie. If there was truly no fragmentation, all iPhones, all the way back to the original, would be able to run the latest iOS in some shape or form...yet that's not the case.
When I had the iPhone 3g, it was severely crippled by iOS 4. My old Captivate now has ICS on it, and is over two years old now. Hmmm. Weird.
Not trying to bicker and fight, just pointing out that Samsung does support their devices fairly well.
I didn't mention an iPhone. Did you perhaps search my previous posts form two months ago?
And I don't think I mentioned anything about Apple support or whatever.
Samsung is a shifting entity. They are now supposedly pulling the Galaxy tab 10" and the 10" note to make changes. Thing is, this seems somewhat disorganized. It may be a good move, or not. It isn't a stable timetable.
So when they say such and such is going to happen, I'm not going to hold my breath.
Yeah, I suppose I did search it to see where you were coming from, as in my experience I have been really satisfied with Samsung products, so I get curious as to why people have complaints against Samsung. Sorry. Haha. And my reference to Apple's support came from you being on an iPhone previously, therefore that is what you're familiar with, so I compared it to my experience with both Samsung and Apple products.
Sorry if I came off a bit harsh, going on 4 hours of sleep in the last two and a half days, it's wearing on me.
Np problem, I do that also (it's fun to sneak around and check on people )
I'm just pissed that i'm stuck with the S -memo. I bought the Note for the pen really, as it's an ideal note-taker (or should I say, it COULD be ideal )
And I was waiting for the 10" and now it's all up in the Air. I'm pissed.
So I rant on, to no avail i'm afraid
Cmon now...Samsung isnt THAT bad. Honestly, if you always have to have the lastest software, the Nexus line is the best way to go. Its not like HTC, Motorola, LG updates all of their devices quickly. No brand is perfect. I would much rather have to wait a little while and get a completed update than a fast update thats buggy and half assed. And besides, most people love to flash ROMS and tons of customizations. Thats what makes us Android users and not iOS. Last week I used the iphone again and thought to myself..."this $#&@ is Boring! Unlock screen, swipe left, swipe right....all I see is bunched up icons on that never changing 3.5" screen...thats it?!?
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I was one of the many who came from an iPhone. Actually, I have had every iPhone since it's inception. From time to time, I would jump and try another phone and would always go back to the iPhone. This is the first time that I switch out the iPhone and can still say It was a great choice. One of the many things that sold me was samsung's premium suite coming out. I have changed so many things on my note that I could never do on the iPhone. I guess it is just personal preference and what it is your looking for in a phone. I wanted a productivity monster that would do everything I needed or wanted and the notes does just that
Bring on premium, I am waiting impatiently
Coming from someone who had a phone made by Dell last, I would say that Samsung is LIGHTNING fast with updates, lol...
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Coming in late but I've got a question about the Premium Suite... I want it but if I go to one of the custom ROMs will I still be able to download it from the Samsung App store? or from the Android Market (Google Play Store?).
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Coming in late but I've got a question about the Premium Suite... I want it but if I go to one of the custom ROMs will I still be able to download it from the Samsung App store? or from the Android Market (Google Play Store?).
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It's believed to be in the new leak being released soon. I'm sure it will get incorporated in all the ICS ROM's very quickly.
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So you come from an iPhone to the Note and you automatically know everything about Samsung devices? Hmmm.
In my experience with the Captivate and Infuse, Samsung may be slow to release stuff, but they eventually get around to it. The Captivate started on 2.1, and they eventually got it to 2.2 and 2.3. The Infuse started with 2.2 and had 2.3 for a while, but they pulled it due to some issues; it will be back eventually. And that's just official updates. Samsung phones have great developer support her, my Captivate has ICS running on it, and the Infuse does now too. Premium Suite will come out when they release the official Samsung ICS for the International Note. And how can you say they are making the Note obsolete before it came out? It's still arguably the best device out there right now. And the ATT Note has been out for what, 2 months, yet we already have a stable ICS leak? Ok. I would say that's pretty damn good due to the fact that most phones don't have ICS yet, and the Note was in development before ICS was officially released anyways....therefore of course it's going to have GB when it was released.
I love how previous iPhone users think that they have the best support...One phone a year...one 'major' software upgrade a year. And no fragmentation? Hah. Bold faced lie. If there was truly no fragmentation, all iPhones, all the way back to the original, would be able to run the latest iOS in some shape or form...yet that's not the case.
When I had the iPhone 3g, it was severely crippled by iOS 4. My old Captivate now has ICS on it, and is over two years old now. Hmmm. Weird.
Not trying to bicker and fight, just pointing out that Samsung does support their devices fairly well.
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Your rant aside, that's actually a good point on iOS. Never thought about it that way. They are always quick to attack fragmentation as a benefit to being on iOS (which they feel they are immune too). I believe this picture sums it up
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Pretty accurate I believe. Lol. And to keep my post on topic for the thread nazis... I'm looking forward to the full official release of ICS w/ the premium suite!
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I didn't mention an iPhone. Did you perhaps search my previous posts form two months ago?
And I don't think I mentioned anything about Apple support or whatever.
Samsung is a shifting entity. They are now supposedly pulling the Galaxy tab 10" and the 10" note to make changes. Thing is, this seems somewhat disorganized. It may be a good move, or not. It isn't a stable timetable.
So when they say such and such is going to happen, I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Becuz of apple vs samasung with the tab somethig with patents maybe
And samasung might be slow with ics But they wont discontinue it or not send ics trust me
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Been using the leaked "S Note" app on my AT&T Note and am learning to like it alot. BUT it definitely (at least for me) takes some learning and practice.
It has basically replaced the "S Memo" app.
Nice feature in "Settings" is the ability to use pen only...meaning your palm won't end up leaving marks on your note.
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Been using the leaked "S Note" app on my AT&T Note and am learning to like it alot. BUT it definitely (at least for me) takes some learning and practice.
It has basically replaced the "S Memo" app.
Nice feature in "Settings" is the ability to use pen only...meaning your palm won't end up leaving marks on your note.
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How do I get this leaked app to use on my Note? Do I need to be on ICS?
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How do I get this leaked app to use on my Note? Do I need to be on ICS?
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Here you go.. You have to be on ics or you'll get problem parsing package... http://www.4shared.com/android/HBO4XNuN/comsecandroidappsnotebook-1.html
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Not sure, where to put this, so i just leave this a general info, that JellyBean is being worked on by HTC maybe even for our device.
this is coming from a HTC developers code details. By accident i stubled upon some source to honeycomb 3.2.2 and it was published by a HTC developer.
but looking at his googlecode you can find some wierd stuff and pictures also. (totally not XDA, but fun)
check this googlecode out.
you even see snaps of a flyer source build in progress if you look carefully.
i wondered about writing him at his @HTC.com email, but hell, im not the one publishing code on the internet
I'm not a developer, so seeing those files Dexter can you conclude how much work is done? Or is being done?
Amazing find though, keep up the great work!
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I'm not a developer, so seeing those files Dexter can you conclude how much work is done? Or is being done?
Amazing find though, keep up the great work!
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i honestly cannot see, since he actually got his hands on a environment with many builds.
It seems somehow he is a developer of the media part of the htc phones, so somehow he got the full access, but of course only work on a very specific part of the new builds. but sure, its JB builds he got working there, he even names some of his code, JB. or maybe he just like bieber LOL
anyways a little fun, and we get HTC's you rock snaps included from their year end party as well.
Well I hope we do get official Jelly Bean
Or you could just send them your ROM to fix
This would be amazing. So long without any updates, even no ICS, and BAM - skip right up to 4.1 jelly bean?
A dream that should come true.
i like how the page is 403'ing now
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i like how the page is 403'ing now
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i guess some jananese guy read my post and reported it.
too stupid to have htc code and other things laying around like that.
super bummed.... i know i was grasping at straws but damn if i didn't feel even the tiniest bit of hope pop up inside me when reading this the other day....
i didn't want to get too excited. but after reading your reply i can tell i must have already fallen for the excitement, as i'm supper bummed out now
why would they work on ICS/JB for the flyer and not even give us any clue about it?
I read the post on Facebook and I really don't know what to think about it, what is wrong with them.
Why don't they tell us about it, just to be able in any case to cancel it.
We paid good money for the flyer and it is not even two years old.
Their Honeycomb Upgrade was/is terrible so we really deserve that. At the beginning (May 2011) this Tab was sold for $1794.99 by Amazon.com!
Now they removed even the introductory price information of Wikipedia, luckily there is a picture of it before they did it.
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Actually this info isn't in Wikipedia anymore, check it out here-> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Flyer)
Really hope they surprise us with Jelly Bean (unbelievable that now this even feels like a "dreaming" although at the beginning I thought that an upgrade for the flyer would be so obvious)
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I just edit wiki back :highfive:
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i guess some jananese guy read my post and reported it.
too stupid to have htc code and other things laying around like that.
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I was to late to check it out :/
Another thing, I figured out how reproduce a "HTC bug report" on the official HC. I mean I can randomly (like a loop) generate this bug so that a bug report is send to HTC.
Do you thing if i can organize a "Flashmob bug report" this would disturb HTC or at least they would notice us? :fingers-crossed:
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I read the post on Facebook and I really don't know what to think about it, what is wrong with them.
Why don't they tell us about it, just to be able in any case to cancel it.
We paid good money for the flyer and it is not even two years old.
Their Honeycomb Upgrade was/is terrible so we really deserve that. At the beginning (May 2011) this Tab was sold for $1794.99 by Amazon.com!
Now they removed even the introductory price information of Wikipedia, luckily there is a picture of it before they did it.
Actually this info isn't in Wikipedia anymore, check it out here-> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Flyer)
Really hope they surprise us with Jelly Bean (unbelievable that now this even feels like a "dreaming" although at the beginning I thought that an upgrade for the flyer would be so obvious)
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I just edit wiki back :highfive:
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I was to late to check it out :/
Another thing, I figured out how reproduce a "HTC bug report" on the official HC. I mean I can randomly (like a loop) generate this bug so that a bug report is send to HTC.
Do you thing if i can organize a "Flashmob bug report" this would disturb HTC or at least they would notice us? :fingers-crossed:
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dont use wiki as a source ever. About the bug reporting, sound s good. But, like you said” randomly” so how can so many users do this report if the cause is random.
I meant I can do it in purpose. Every time like a loop, with 2 klicks.
My English is not that good, I thought randomly means something like a loop.
It has to do with an "app plugin update" in the "HTC hub/likes"
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I don't think HTC believes our tablets are worth saving even though we know how much we love our tabs. JB would be awesome because unlike most, I love sense and if we got a JB with sense, I'd flip but again I don't expect it.
I never felt such disappointment for a device before, this particular case with the flyer is really an epic fail. Maybe the biggest fail in the whole android update history. $699 and not even a year in support... just one crappie HC upgrade.
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rico_zuares said:
I never felt such disappointment for a device before, this particular case with the flyer is really an epic fail. Maybe the biggest fail in the whole android update history. $699 and not even a year in support... just one crappie HC upgrade.
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actully LG optimus 4X is doing alot worse when it comes to support and whatever that follows. even the section is near "legacy devices" state.
It's a small comfort but thanks. It's neck and neck.
The only thing that keeps me on the flyer is the s-pen and the 7 inches. But now I heard YouTube that Samsung brought out a pen that works on all capacities displays. And it is also useable as a bluetooth headset. Just the price I heard wasn't nice, 80€. And the pressure sense Is surely missing.
But if that's true from now on I would focus in nexus devices only.
I care about the specs a lot but after this case I actually care more about the support. Till now even the prices of nexus devices are a lot nicer then other ones.
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It's a small comfort but thanks. It's neck and neck.
The only thing that keeps me on the flyer is the s-pen and the 7 inches. But now I heard YouTube that Samsung brought out a pen that works on all capacities displays. And it is also useable as a bluetooth headset. Just the price I heard wasn't nice, 80€. And the pressure sense Is surely missing.
But if that's true from now on I would focus in nexus devices only.
I care about the specs a lot but after this case I actually care more about the support. Till now even the prices of nexus devices are a lot nicer then other ones.
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+1 pen and seven inch form factor has me sticking with flyer. Do you have any more info on the Samsung pen? I might be interested in that.
Edit: nvm found it. Looking into it now
What a surprise - no further tablets from HTC
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-drops-out-of-us-tablet-market-for-now-20121010/
Edit: well I guess they just won't sell tablets in USA (why what did we do to them?) but what does that mean for the rest of the world? And if they do produce a tablet I wonder if it would be competitively priced and supported by them for more than 6 months.
I will look for more info and hope that pen exist.
I was just playing with the Note 10.1 (just checking out the handwriting capabilities) . I must say i I like it a lot. Writing on it felt smooth and it consistently correctly converted my horrible chicken scratch of a handwriting. The predictive text worked pretty well also. But it's not the seven inch form factor that I prefer and it is lacking the quality feel of my beloved flyer.
I was thinking about picking this device up. Short of the bootloader unlock and recovery development is nil. That has me worried a bit. I might be spoiled as I am coming from a nexus and a sammy. Not asking for ETA's or anything jest wondering what you guys think is in store development wise.
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JustusIV said:
I was thinking about picking this device up. Short of the bootloader unlock and recovery development is nil. That has me worried a bit. I might be spoiled as I am coming from a nexus and a sammy. Not asking for ETA's or anything jest wondering what you guys think is in store development wise.
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Since most devs probably still haven't got their hands on one it's expected...
Only last week we've seen a major growth in G2 US owners (which are the first ones to get devices similar to the international version) and this month we'll see Europe-based people (including most devs, it seems) get their handful of G2 goodness.
This device will be very similar to the upcoming Nexus 5 (most internals are probably the same) so, if the Optimus G is any indication (and that one was underrated like hell), development will be great.
I'm not a (Android at least) dev though, so I can't really speak for them. Just my 2 cents.
Need AOSP ROMs
I am very concerned as well. If this phone doesn't get a a stock AOSP ROM with 4.3 and then 4.4 soon, I will probably sell it for the Nexus 5. There is just too much BS on the phone thanks to LG and AT&T.
The Messenger App and the Dialer App both very bad compared to stock Android. The Menu Button is horrible, and the fixes available only make the problem worse since they hide the menu button.
Also, 4.2.2 is nearly a year old now, and after 4.4 is released in a couple weeks, the G2 will be two major releases behind the Nexus Line.
My Verizon Galaxy Nexus has been running AOSP 4.3 since July.
Now of course LG has added some cool features, but unfortunately they over did it and ruined the messenger app and the dialer, the Google Now, the multitasking, the menu button, the lockscreen with bad apps on it.
I bought the Nexus One and the Galaxy Nexus the day they came out so I guess I am spoiled.
I love the hardware on the G2, but it needs stock ROMs bad!
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I am very concerned as well. If this phone doesn't get a a stock AOSP ROM with 4.3 and then 4.4 soon, I will probably sell it for the Nexus 5. There is just too much BS on the phone thanks to LG and AT&T.
The Messenger App and the Dialer App both very bad compared to stock Android. The Menu Button is horrible, and the fixes available only make the problem worse since they hide the menu button.
Also, 4.2.2 is nearly a year old now, and after 4.4 is released in a couple weeks, the G2 will be two major releases behind the Nexus Line.
My Verizon Galaxy Nexus has been running AOSP 4.3 since July.
Now of course LG has added some cool features, but unfortunately they over did it and ruined the messenger app and the dialer, the Google Now, the multitasking, the menu button, the lockscreen with bad apps on it.
I bought the Nexus One and the Galaxy Nexus the day they came out so I guess I am spoiled.
I love the hardware on the G2, but it needs stock ROMs bad!
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I completely understand what you're saying, and as someone coming from a GNex myself I have enjoyed seemingly endless options for roms and kernels throughout its life. That said, it wasn't ever the best hardware, and in the end I decided that's what was most important to me as long as I could root the phone and modify what I wanted to on my own. I agree about the slide aside multitasking, messaging app, and menu button...but all of those are solved with not a whole lot of effort if you're rooted. I just got rid of the bloat (and bunch of LG's gestures), put the CM 10.1.3 mms apk that I themed black onto, and am running LMT in full-screen mode. There's still the white SystemUI and Settings stuff, but that doesn't bother me enough to spend the time to change it. Other than that I've got my G2 looking just like my GNex did, except it's running 10x faster, isn't running out of ram, is 200% better at holding onto LTE, and the battery...well, you know.
New versions of android won't come as fast, but I do think they'll come eventually. I was't even running 4.3 on my GNex b/c of all APN/signal issues it had. I want my phone to work more than anything.
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I completely understand what you're saying.....but all of those are solved with not a whole lot of effort if you're rooted. I just got rid of the bloat (and bunch of LG's gestures), put the CM 10.1.3 mms apk that I themed black onto, and am running LMT in full-screen mode.
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I'll do some research on how to install the CM mms apk app, not really sure how to do that, but the LG one is driving me nuts. What the heck was LG thinking, when you are in messaging you can barely see the messages, they are all covered up by a huge text box and the keyboard, and wasted space. Also you have to hit back a bunch of times and reopen messaging to get back to the messaging home to text somebody else. And then half the time it opens at the top of the thread and you have to scroooooooolll down. It's a total nightmare.
What do you mean by LMT in full-screen?
Thanks.
Download 8sms from play store its the CM messaging app for all devices. Everything works. I personally just wanted root and the black statusbar and im happy.
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I agree. It's awful and was driving me nuts for the same reasons so it was the first thing to go. I like sliding messaging as well, but it's a little heavier and still has quite a few bugs with regards to MMS that I didn't feel like waiting for them to fix.
I've attached the blacked-out one that I've been theming and using all along with 4.2.x It's just the latest CM 10.1.3 one that has the quick-reply feature, group messaging, emoji, etc. If you prefer white, then just pull it from a VZW-based (so it has the proper mms_config.xml) rom image...like the toro build. It needs to be installed to system. I odexed it as well, but that isn't necessary.
LMT is one of the more inventive and useful pieces of software I've used since I started with Android. Here's the thread to read up on it. It's the pie/gesture launcher that started it all (before PA, etc) and is far more powerful than any of the others. I use that and get rid of the softkey navigation bars at the bottom, so I have a lot more screen real estate.
Edit: attached Mms install requirements
currentsupply said:
I am very concerned as well. If this phone doesn't get a a stock AOSP ROM with 4.3 and then 4.4 soon, I will probably sell it for the Nexus 5. There is just too much BS on the phone thanks to LG and AT&T.
The Messenger App and the Dialer App both very bad compared to stock Android. The Menu Button is horrible, and the fixes available only make the problem worse since they hide the menu button.
Also, 4.2.2 is nearly a year old now, and after 4.4 is released in a couple weeks, the G2 will be two major releases behind the Nexus Line.
My Verizon Galaxy Nexus has been running AOSP 4.3 since July.
Now of course LG has added some cool features, but unfortunately they over did it and ruined the messenger app and the dialer, the Google Now, the multitasking, the menu button, the lockscreen with bad apps on it.
I bought the Nexus One and the Galaxy Nexus the day they came out so I guess I am spoiled.
I love the hardware on the G2, but it needs stock ROMs bad!
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Glad I dont count!
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You count to me my friend! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Glad I dont count!
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You got this phone? Sweet....
How did you make the nav bar have the multi task button and does the menu button pop up when needed?
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Your sarcasm still burns deep
The perceived lack of developers could be solved if those complaining either learned a new hobby (developing) or donated phones or cash to those selfless developers we have.
So agree it comments above regarding root and roms. Coming from Galaxy Nexus too, I miss all the tinkering and trying out new roms too.
For now I just have to be satisfy with root and nova launcher, configuring the phone to look just like my old nexus.
The screen the cpu and the battery life of this phone runs circle around my nexus. Now if we have stock roms and timely update this will be the best device ever!
-LG G2
Dev here. Waiting for his G2. I would'nt worry about dev support too early on. I have said this before and Ill say it again as it is relevant. G2 is SnapDragon 800 just like the Z1, Note III, S4 I9505 - A and the Nexus 5 are also 800. Meaning our developer support can merge into theirs if needed.
Bump on my nav bar multi task question. Someone posted a screen shot of it.... How did you do it?
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You got this phone? Sweet....
How did you make the nav bar have the multi task button and does the menu button pop up when needed?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463459
Yeah, for apps that don't have an overflow button, the menu button will appear at the bottom, above the normal navigation buttons. Most apps tend to have the action overflow though.
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Bump on my nav bar multi task question. Someone posted a screen shot of it.... How did you do it?
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Might want to do a bit of research next time in the Android Development threads for your carrier. All the questions you have posed so far about development support could have been answered.
The phone has just been released a few weeks ago and development started a few days after the Verizon and ATT variants were released. So if this is not enough evidence for you that there will be developer support for this phone, then you are probably better off with the Nexus 5.
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What font and icons are you using?
markcyst said:
The perceived lack of developers could be solved if those complaining either learned a new hobby (developing) or donated phones or cash to those selfless developers we have.
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Exactly. With new phones coming out so often it gets very expensive to keep buying them. Donations after the fact don't come close to covering the full price of the phone, hosting, etc. I give the people that are still developing a load of credit because it isn't easy, it takes time away from more important things and the users can be a pain.
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Hi all,
This is a thread where we can chat "all things Ultra" without going off topic in other threads. I'm an expert in going off topic (especially in the dev section), and i'm getting fairly sick of my own behavior, so i thought, why not create a casual thread where we can chat about every aspect of the Ultra without crashing a thread?
Rules:
- Stay on topic
- Talk about whatever you want as long as it is about your device. Rooting, flashing, questions etc.
So, i rooted my ZU yesterday and i'm very happy with it. I installed Xposed Frameworks and changed some DPIs around (i wanted Chrome in tablet mode etc.). Have you rooted your Ultra, or are you waiting? Or something totally different?
Rooted mine the day I bought it
Waiting for a recovery for .532, also a deodexed rom of this firmware. :3
methodbeat said:
Rooted mine the day I bought it
Waiting for a recovery for .532, also a deodexed rom of this firmware. :3
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Have you tried ParanoidAndroid or CM? I haven't yet, but i guess i'll flash one or both of them fairly soon, but i'm actually very pleased with the Sony ROM. It's stable (if we ignore the few bugs in it), i like the launcher, i love the Movie, Gallery and Music app (never ever thought that would be the case), and it's not heavily skinned like TW or the other trainwreck that is also known as LG.
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Have you tried ParanoidAndroid or CM? I haven't yet, but i guess i'll flash one or both of them fairly soon, but i'm actually very pleased with the Sony ROM. It's stable (if we ignore the few bugs in it), i like the launcher, i love the Movie, Gallery and Music app (never ever thought that would be the case), and it's not heavily skinned like TW or the other trainwreck that is also known as LG.
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I haven't yet. I'll do when CWM/TWRP is available for .532
Also, I couldn't agree more. Sony's UI is very pleasing indeed. To say, even my friends with S3s and S4s have flashed the ROMs with Sony's launcher.
I actually flashed the Sony launcher on my Note, but that felt.. wrong? So i went straight back to CM It's a different story now though! Did you get the dock bundled with your Ultra btw? What do you think of it? I wish it was a little heavier so i could just pull the Ultra out of it, but it's so light that i have to hold the dock when i pull it now. I guess i could open it and stuff it with something heavy (like lead?).
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Hi all,
This is a thread where we can chat "all things Ultra" without going off topic in other threads. I'm an expert in going off topic (especially in the dev section), and i'm getting fairly sick of my own behavior, so i thought, why not create a casual thread where we can chat about every aspect of the Ultra without crashing a thread?
Rules:
- Stay on topic
- Talk about whatever you want as long as it is about your device. Rooting, flashing, questions etc.
So, i rooted my ZU yesterday and i'm very happy with it. I installed Xposed Frameworks and changed some DPIs around (i wanted Chrome in tablet mode etc.). Have you rooted your Ultra, or are you waiting? Or something totally different?
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I guess I'll unlock the bootloader and root right away when my phone comes back from service.
I'm so desperate to have it back I went to a store today to see and try it and I brought with me a leaflet... :sad:
Anyway, I agree also, the Sony launcher is amongst the lightest I've seen, and it would be a burden to even install Nova or Go or something else.
AND, I was posting the same topic after reading your reply on the kernel one, so you got here first.
I'll share my sadness every single day my device is away, and worst of it is next week I'll receive the watch and SBH52, they'll throw them self out of the window when they'll see their present companion.......... The Mighty LG 2X............
I'll censure myself for the next words.
[email protected]@@@@@@@@@@@£?.
P.s. We sooooo needed this topic...
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I actually flashed the Sony launcher on my Note, but that felt.. wrong? So i went straight back to CM It's a different story now though! Did you get the dock bundled with your Ultra btw? What do you think of it? I wish it was a little heavier so i could just pull the Ultra out of it, but it's so light that i have to hold the dock when i pull it now. I guess i could open it and stuff it with something heavy (like lead?).
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Nope, didn't get the dock bundled with it.
Oh btw, how about a marble layer?
fastest83 said:
I guess I'll unlock the bootloader and root right away when my phone comes back from service.
I'm so desperate to have it back I went to a store today to see and try it and I brought with me a leaflet... :sad:
Anyway, I agree also, the Sony launcher is amongst the lightest I've seen, and it would be a burden to even install Nova or Go or something else.
AND, I was posting the same topic after reading your reply on the kernel one, so you got here first.
I'll share my sadness every single day my device is away, and worst of it is next week I'll receive the watch and SBH52, they'll throw them self out of the window when they'll see their present companion.......... The Mighty LG 2X............
I'll censure myself for the next words.
[email protected]@@@@@@@@@@@£?.
P.s. We sooooo needed this topic...
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I installed Nova three days ago. I have Prime, so i want to get my money's worth, but it doesn't look quite right? The app drawer looks normal, but the screen of the Ultra is so big, and the resolution is so high that the default app grid is set to 6x7 or something, which looks kind of ridiculous IMO. SO many icons! I changed it to something more normal like 5x6, but that looked absolutely ridiculous. I will choose Nova in the end, but i'm perfectly comfortable with Sony's launcher at this time, so i won't change it yet.
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Nope, didn't get the dock bundled with it.
Oh btw, how about a marble layer?
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I guess marble would work too, yes. It would've been easy if i had marble floors, and had a piece left some place, but i have hardwood floors, and that won't cut it. I do however have a "piece" of lead, so that might work. I won't start with project Lead Dock today though, since i've had a couple of beers, and i've learned that it's not the smartest thing to start with a new project while having alcohol in my blood "Hey dude, that 1080 on roller skates looks easy! Hold my beer!"
Luvin the Ultra!! Had prime also but went back to stock. I had rooted it earlier on but went back.just waiting for a Rom that has some options for music. Had note 2 with Jedi x and was using voodoo sound..awesome app..i can get the volume up with headphones and keep it clear. hoping eventually something similar.
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I guess marble would work too, yes. It would've been easy if i had marble floors, and had a piece left some place, but i have hardwood floors, and that won't cut it. I do however have a "piece" of lead, so that might work. I won't start with project Lead Dock today though, since i've had a couple of beers, and i've learned that it's not the smartest thing to start with a new project while having alcohol in my blood "Hey dude, that 1080 on roller skates looks easy! Hold my beer!"
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Hahahah Project Lead Dock sounds cool
sh!t why new cyanogen build taking so long...
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Have you tried ParanoidAndroid or CM? I haven't yet, but i guess i'll flash one or both of them fairly soon, but i'm actually very pleased with the Sony ROM. It's stable (if we ignore the few bugs in it), i like the launcher, i love the Movie, Gallery and Music app (never ever thought that would be the case), and it's not heavily skinned like TW or the other trainwreck that is also known as LG.
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After 2 days on Sony Rom I was pleasantly surprised (had sgs3 gt9300 before xzu) Now on PA and for a 1st beta its very smooth and stable. One thing I will say is though, I cant shake the feeling that sound (eg music thru headphones) is not a sharp/clear on PA and the display isnt as crisp on PA either . Ive backed up my TA partition stuff so will go back and check at some stage.
Chat thread :thumbup: - wanted to comment earlier but always worried about OT chat
Also, great to see the kernel building thread I'm currently playing with the stock rom in dsixda's rom building kitchen - hope to post a deodexed stock/small mods 532 rom when/if I get anything useful made.
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I just bought my two days ago now playing the waiting game. I hope I am going to like it.
IAmBrock said:
I just bought my two days ago now playing the waiting game. I hope I am going to like it.
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Oh, you'll like it.
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Oh, you'll like it.
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How do you come out with these I honestly don't know... but I'm laughing my a$$ off...
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How do you come out with these I honestly don't know... but I'm laughing my a$$ off...
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I either google "reaction gif" or if i'm looking for something usable, like for my previous post, i searched for "Oh, you'll like it gif". It's easy if you know what you're looking for
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I either google "reaction gif" or if i'm looking for something usable, like for my previous post, i searched for "Oh, you'll like it gif". It's easy if you know what you're looking for
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Oh, I get it.
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Oh, I get it.
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Oh, you'll like it.
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Lmao. Waiting sucks though!
Hi, I have just been in a htc live chat and the representative i have spoken to has said that the desire 610 will not receive the lollipop update.
zubairali00 said:
Hi, I have just been in a htc live chat and the representative i have spoken to has said that the desire 610 will not receive the lollipop update.
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can't say I am that surprised... the phone is no longer on sale in any of the local mobile shops. basically we are dead in the water with this phone
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Hi, I have just been in a htc live chat and the representative i have spoken to has said that the desire 610 will not receive the lollipop update.
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Do reps generally share that info? Its just the whole update process seems really secretive with loose release dates...but it doesn't surprise me either--"bad news" oughta be the title of this forum...
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From what I have heard, our phone will recieve the update but we're gonna have to wait until the end of the year. Really disappointed with HTC and also I'm stuck with this OS as there aren't any custom ROMs available yet. Why did I buy this phone? HTC you suck.
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can't say I am that surprised... the phone is no longer on sale in any of the local mobile shops. basically we are dead in the water with this phone
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Same this has happened with the desire 816, and yet that phone just got the 5.0 update. My guess the representative might've been flustered.
are you sure ?
Honestly guys if you want dev support and timely updates get a flag ship HTC, not a throw away $100 phone and expect support over a year later. The M7, M8 and M9 probably have the beat dev support XDA has to offer, plus HTC has been good on their promises. Nobody is entitled to a custom ROM, if you need one that bad learn how to code and do it yourself. Don't expect someone who doesn't own a 610 to do it for you.
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ifti786 said:
From what I have heard, our phone will recieve the update but we're gonna have to wait until the end of the year. Really disappointed with HTC and also I'm stuck with this OS as there aren't any custom ROMs available yet. Why did I buy this phone? HTC you suck.
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You want custom ROMs get a nexus or an M7/8/9. Its not HTC's fault you didn't do your homework before selecting a phone. Just be thankful we have root and S-off at least. You're acting like HTC sold you a broken phone.
Don,t worry
zubairali00 said:
Hi, I have just been in a htc live chat and the representative i have spoken to has said that the desire 610 will not receive the lollipop update.
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I can give you HTC Asia TW Lollipo TWRP Backup File And you can change to any language because Asia TW Version has global language
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I can give you HTC Asia TW Lollipo TWRP Backup File And you can change to any language because Asia TW Version has global language
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That would be cool. Is it rooted?
phatmanxxl said:
Honestly guys if you want dev support and timely updates get a flag ship HTC, not a throw away $100 phone and expect support over a year later. The M7, M8 and M9 probably have the beat dev support XDA has to offer, plus HTC has been good on their promises. Nobody is entitled to a custom ROM, if you need one that bad learn how to code and do it yourself. Don't expect someone who doesn't own a 610 to do it for you.
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You want custom ROMs get a nexus or an M7/8/9. Its not HTC's fault you didn't do your homework before selecting a phone. Just be thankful we have root and S-off at least. You're acting like HTC sold you a broken phone.
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If you're buying a midrange phone like the 610, then you most likely aren't exactly entitled to a big budget. So please no Ronald Reaganing.
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Honestly guys if you want dev support and timely updates get a flag ship HTC, not a throw away $100 phone and expect support over a year later. The M7, M8 and M9 probably have the beat dev support XDA has to offer, plus HTC has been good on their promises. Nobody is entitled to a custom ROM, if you need one that bad learn how to code and do it yourself. Don't expect someone who doesn't own a 610 to do it for you.
You want custom ROMs get a nexus or an M7/8/9. Its not HTC's fault you didn't do your homework before selecting a phone. Just be thankful we have root and S-off at least. You're acting like HTC sold you a broken phone.
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you know what this attitude makes me puke... you think we want to buy a cheaper phone, You think there isnt one among us who if we didnt have the money would love to buy a flagship... get your head out the clouds mate.. I got 2 kids and a baby on the way. the chances of me having the money to spend on what amounts so a luxury and not even a real necessity is slim to none.. Just because we can't afford to get a better phone doesn't mean we don't have the right to bemoan it when there is little development.. if you notice nobody is criticising anyone we are all just sad that there is little to no development. sure we can learn ourselves and if I ever have a free moment I'm sure it would be a priority..
so before you jump on someone's complaint again maybe you should take 2 seconds to think about them rather than anything else
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Will this work for the Desire 610?
phatmanxxl said:
That would be cool. Is it rooted?
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No root and now is no any lollipops found
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No root and now is no any lollipops found
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So you dont have the twrp lollipop backup?
torchwolfery said:
you know what this attitude makes me puke... you think we want to buy a cheaper phone, You think there isnt one among us who if we didnt have the money would love to buy a flagship... get your head out the clouds mate.. I got 2 kids and a baby on the way. the chances of me having the money to spend on what amounts so a luxury and not even a real necessity is slim to none.. Just because we can't afford to get a better phone doesn't mean we don't have the right to bemoan it when there is little development.. if you notice nobody is criticising anyone we are all just sad that there is little to no development. sure we can learn ourselves and if I ever have a free moment I'm sure it would be a priority..
so before you jump on someone's complaint again maybe you should take 2 seconds to think about them rather than anything else
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I have four kids of my own and living pay check to paycheck, my G pro got damaged and the best I could afford is the 610 also. I don't like the entitlement attitude where someone needs to cook you a ROM and HTC sucks because you could only afford the Desire. I bought this phone knowing there was little development, I'm not the one posting rants about it.
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ninjasinabag said:
If you're buying a midrange phone like the 610, then you most likely aren't exactly entitled to a big budget. So please no Ronald Reaganing.
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You get what you paid for.
phatmanxxl said:
I have four kids of my own and living pay check to paycheck, my G pro got damaged and the best I could afford is the 610 also. I don't like the entitlement attitude where someone needs to cook you a ROM and HTC sucks because you could only afford the Desire. I bought this phone knowing there was little development, I'm not the one posting rants about it.
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You get what you paid for.
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You know...i read your comment last nite & like MANY others it rubbed me the wrong way. But, i gave u the benefit of the doubt and kept quiet because Ive unfortunately replied without thinking in the past. But after your weak attempt at justifying how youre right and everyone else is wrong...i think i actually DO know who im dealing with. And no matter what arguments people make youll just keep going. Torchwolfery got it right. I have nothing more to add.
I am always right, I'm glad we can all agree. :highfive:
phatmanxxl said:
I have four kids of my own and living pay check to paycheck, my G pro got damaged and the best I could afford is the 610 also. I don't like the entitlement attitude where someone needs to cook you a ROM and HTC sucks because you could only afford the Desire. I bought this phone knowing there was little development, I'm not the one posting rants about it.
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You get what you paid for.
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2 points..
1 no one said anything bout htc sucking we siad it sucks that the phone wont likely get android 5.0 and i think its fair to say that sucks or are you not interested in getting it to your phone?
2 what sense of entitlement are you talking about? Since when did complianing about something become a bad thing... pointing out that it sucks that there is no development for our device, is just that. Pointing out it sucks...
now before you want to start comparing lifes and how much worse off you are than anyone else, maybe you need to get off that high horse. Some of us here have tried developing with this device with very little sucess and in my opinion and others too, it sucks that none of the good or experiance developers can help us... its not about the quality of the device cause im sure i speak for most when i say that its actually a bloody good phone....
Now before you make another knee jerk reply i want you to understand, my original comment was not aimed at you speficially but at the attituded I have seen on a lot of these threads... we keep talking about community but that community seems very focused on the high end or popular phones, this is not a critisism just a fact. So if we want to have a whinge about the fact that there is no development then just let us get it out there because no matter the reason it still doesnt change that fact that IT SUCKS!!!
I never said I was worse off than anybody else, I was just pointing the fact I can't just go out and buy a flagship phone either.
1. When you buy a low end phone, don't expect long term support and flagship like development at XDA. If you're into flashing ROMs always check XDA before buying a phone. You can find some decent discounted phones with an active development scene. Nexus 4, G2, HTC M7 to name a few.
2. Maybe it was just me to not sir around and wait for someone else to give me what I want. If I wanted CM11 bad enough I would try and figure out how to port it myself. I've been meaning to make a fully debloated stock ROM and post it in the dev section whenever I get around to it. I'm fine with stock rooted and using xposed.
Before I got the 610 I was using the Hauwei Fusion 3, now talk about a dead dev scene.