Hi, I have just been in a htc live chat and the representative i have spoken to has said that the desire 610 will not receive the lollipop update.
zubairali00 said:
Hi, I have just been in a htc live chat and the representative i have spoken to has said that the desire 610 will not receive the lollipop update.
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can't say I am that surprised... the phone is no longer on sale in any of the local mobile shops. basically we are dead in the water with this phone
zubairali00 said:
Hi, I have just been in a htc live chat and the representative i have spoken to has said that the desire 610 will not receive the lollipop update.
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Do reps generally share that info? Its just the whole update process seems really secretive with loose release dates...but it doesn't surprise me either--"bad news" oughta be the title of this forum...
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From what I have heard, our phone will recieve the update but we're gonna have to wait until the end of the year. Really disappointed with HTC and also I'm stuck with this OS as there aren't any custom ROMs available yet. Why did I buy this phone? HTC you suck.
torchwolfery said:
can't say I am that surprised... the phone is no longer on sale in any of the local mobile shops. basically we are dead in the water with this phone
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Same this has happened with the desire 816, and yet that phone just got the 5.0 update. My guess the representative might've been flustered.
are you sure ?
Honestly guys if you want dev support and timely updates get a flag ship HTC, not a throw away $100 phone and expect support over a year later. The M7, M8 and M9 probably have the beat dev support XDA has to offer, plus HTC has been good on their promises. Nobody is entitled to a custom ROM, if you need one that bad learn how to code and do it yourself. Don't expect someone who doesn't own a 610 to do it for you.
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ifti786 said:
From what I have heard, our phone will recieve the update but we're gonna have to wait until the end of the year. Really disappointed with HTC and also I'm stuck with this OS as there aren't any custom ROMs available yet. Why did I buy this phone? HTC you suck.
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You want custom ROMs get a nexus or an M7/8/9. Its not HTC's fault you didn't do your homework before selecting a phone. Just be thankful we have root and S-off at least. You're acting like HTC sold you a broken phone.
Don,t worry
zubairali00 said:
Hi, I have just been in a htc live chat and the representative i have spoken to has said that the desire 610 will not receive the lollipop update.
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I can give you HTC Asia TW Lollipo TWRP Backup File And you can change to any language because Asia TW Version has global language
kenny0989 said:
I can give you HTC Asia TW Lollipo TWRP Backup File And you can change to any language because Asia TW Version has global language
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That would be cool. Is it rooted?
phatmanxxl said:
Honestly guys if you want dev support and timely updates get a flag ship HTC, not a throw away $100 phone and expect support over a year later. The M7, M8 and M9 probably have the beat dev support XDA has to offer, plus HTC has been good on their promises. Nobody is entitled to a custom ROM, if you need one that bad learn how to code and do it yourself. Don't expect someone who doesn't own a 610 to do it for you.
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You want custom ROMs get a nexus or an M7/8/9. Its not HTC's fault you didn't do your homework before selecting a phone. Just be thankful we have root and S-off at least. You're acting like HTC sold you a broken phone.
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If you're buying a midrange phone like the 610, then you most likely aren't exactly entitled to a big budget. So please no Ronald Reaganing.
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Honestly guys if you want dev support and timely updates get a flag ship HTC, not a throw away $100 phone and expect support over a year later. The M7, M8 and M9 probably have the beat dev support XDA has to offer, plus HTC has been good on their promises. Nobody is entitled to a custom ROM, if you need one that bad learn how to code and do it yourself. Don't expect someone who doesn't own a 610 to do it for you.
You want custom ROMs get a nexus or an M7/8/9. Its not HTC's fault you didn't do your homework before selecting a phone. Just be thankful we have root and S-off at least. You're acting like HTC sold you a broken phone.
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you know what this attitude makes me puke... you think we want to buy a cheaper phone, You think there isnt one among us who if we didnt have the money would love to buy a flagship... get your head out the clouds mate.. I got 2 kids and a baby on the way. the chances of me having the money to spend on what amounts so a luxury and not even a real necessity is slim to none.. Just because we can't afford to get a better phone doesn't mean we don't have the right to bemoan it when there is little development.. if you notice nobody is criticising anyone we are all just sad that there is little to no development. sure we can learn ourselves and if I ever have a free moment I'm sure it would be a priority..
so before you jump on someone's complaint again maybe you should take 2 seconds to think about them rather than anything else
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I can give you HTC Asia TW Lollipo TWRP Backup File And you can change to any language because Asia TW Version has global language
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Will this work for the Desire 610?
phatmanxxl said:
That would be cool. Is it rooted?
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No root and now is no any lollipops found
kenny0989 said:
No root and now is no any lollipops found
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So you dont have the twrp lollipop backup?
torchwolfery said:
you know what this attitude makes me puke... you think we want to buy a cheaper phone, You think there isnt one among us who if we didnt have the money would love to buy a flagship... get your head out the clouds mate.. I got 2 kids and a baby on the way. the chances of me having the money to spend on what amounts so a luxury and not even a real necessity is slim to none.. Just because we can't afford to get a better phone doesn't mean we don't have the right to bemoan it when there is little development.. if you notice nobody is criticising anyone we are all just sad that there is little to no development. sure we can learn ourselves and if I ever have a free moment I'm sure it would be a priority..
so before you jump on someone's complaint again maybe you should take 2 seconds to think about them rather than anything else
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I have four kids of my own and living pay check to paycheck, my G pro got damaged and the best I could afford is the 610 also. I don't like the entitlement attitude where someone needs to cook you a ROM and HTC sucks because you could only afford the Desire. I bought this phone knowing there was little development, I'm not the one posting rants about it.
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If you're buying a midrange phone like the 610, then you most likely aren't exactly entitled to a big budget. So please no Ronald Reaganing.
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You get what you paid for.
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I have four kids of my own and living pay check to paycheck, my G pro got damaged and the best I could afford is the 610 also. I don't like the entitlement attitude where someone needs to cook you a ROM and HTC sucks because you could only afford the Desire. I bought this phone knowing there was little development, I'm not the one posting rants about it.
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You get what you paid for.
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You know...i read your comment last nite & like MANY others it rubbed me the wrong way. But, i gave u the benefit of the doubt and kept quiet because Ive unfortunately replied without thinking in the past. But after your weak attempt at justifying how youre right and everyone else is wrong...i think i actually DO know who im dealing with. And no matter what arguments people make youll just keep going. Torchwolfery got it right. I have nothing more to add.
I am always right, I'm glad we can all agree. :highfive:
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I have four kids of my own and living pay check to paycheck, my G pro got damaged and the best I could afford is the 610 also. I don't like the entitlement attitude where someone needs to cook you a ROM and HTC sucks because you could only afford the Desire. I bought this phone knowing there was little development, I'm not the one posting rants about it.
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You get what you paid for.
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2 points..
1 no one said anything bout htc sucking we siad it sucks that the phone wont likely get android 5.0 and i think its fair to say that sucks or are you not interested in getting it to your phone?
2 what sense of entitlement are you talking about? Since when did complianing about something become a bad thing... pointing out that it sucks that there is no development for our device, is just that. Pointing out it sucks...
now before you want to start comparing lifes and how much worse off you are than anyone else, maybe you need to get off that high horse. Some of us here have tried developing with this device with very little sucess and in my opinion and others too, it sucks that none of the good or experiance developers can help us... its not about the quality of the device cause im sure i speak for most when i say that its actually a bloody good phone....
Now before you make another knee jerk reply i want you to understand, my original comment was not aimed at you speficially but at the attituded I have seen on a lot of these threads... we keep talking about community but that community seems very focused on the high end or popular phones, this is not a critisism just a fact. So if we want to have a whinge about the fact that there is no development then just let us get it out there because no matter the reason it still doesnt change that fact that IT SUCKS!!!
I never said I was worse off than anybody else, I was just pointing the fact I can't just go out and buy a flagship phone either.
1. When you buy a low end phone, don't expect long term support and flagship like development at XDA. If you're into flashing ROMs always check XDA before buying a phone. You can find some decent discounted phones with an active development scene. Nexus 4, G2, HTC M7 to name a few.
2. Maybe it was just me to not sir around and wait for someone else to give me what I want. If I wanted CM11 bad enough I would try and figure out how to port it myself. I've been meaning to make a fully debloated stock ROM and post it in the dev section whenever I get around to it. I'm fine with stock rooted and using xposed.
Before I got the 610 I was using the Hauwei Fusion 3, now talk about a dead dev scene.
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Am I the only one that is sick of HTC lagging on releasing source code. I'm so tired of them dragging their sorry asses around with slow code releases for our phones. The whole thing is so stupid.
First we have the stupid 1.5 Hboot problem. What a pain in the ass. All so a few thousand people can't properly tinker with the device, which they paid good money for. That is so weak. And from a company that is supposed to be dev friendly. Right. All they are is annoying the most loyal customers they have.
Next we have the lack of source code for the newest kernel, 2.17.651.5. Without this code, the entire developer section is divided. We want the features from the established roms, but we can't have them along with the new OTA updates without your code. Just release it already. We are not going to sell it or start our own phone companies for F sake. We can't even use our cameras properly since you gave us botched camera code compared to other similar phones. Only god knows why you would do that.
PLEASE, if an HTC rep reads this, please help the community out. Give us the complete tools to unlock our phones, and the code to customize our phones as we see fit. We all promise to not break them and return them for one of the millions you already have sitting around the world. We already bought your stupid phone(s). Now give us the tools to make them better.
Thank you.
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When you release the update for ICS, please give us the option to run with or without Sense. Some of us love it, some of us hate it. But let it be our choice. Perhaps you could make Sense a bundle of widgets on top of ICS. I don't care how you do it, just do it right for a change.
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Yess, agree wit this!
Yup. Give me stock, HTC
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Am I the only one that is sick of HTC lagging on releasing source code. I'm so tired of them dragging their sorry asses around with slow code releases for our phones. The whole thing is so stupid.
First we have the stupid 1.5 Hboot problem. What a pain in the ass. All so a few thousand people can't properly tinker with the device, which they paid good money for. That is so weak. And from a company that is supposed to be dev friendly. Right. All they are is annoying the most loyal customers they have.
Next we have the lack of source code for the newest kernel, 2.17.651.5. Without this code, the entire developer section is divided. We want the features from the established roms, but we can't have them along with the new OTA updates without your code. Just release it already. We are not going to sell it or start our own phone companies for F sake. We can't even use our cameras properly since you gave us botched camera code compared to other similar phones. Only god knows why you would do that.
PLEASE, if an HTC rep reads this, please help the community out. Give us the complete tools to unlock our phones, and the code to customize our phones as we see fit. We all promise to not break them and return them for one of the millions you already have sitting around the world. We already bought your stupid phone(s). Now give us the tools to make them better.
Thank you.
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When you release the update for ICS, please give us the option to run with or without Sense. Some of us love it, some of us hate it. But let it be our choice. Perhaps you could make Sense a bundle of widgets on top of ICS. I don't care how you do it, just do it right for a change.
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Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
WatermelonSlim said:
Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
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Why are you still here?
Sell your phone if you don't like it.. or how the manufacturer release update/source
I'm sure the photon/ET4G forums need your wisdom and advice
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Bear gri11z said:
Why are you still here?
Sell your phone if you don't like it.. or how the manufacturer release update/source
I'm sure the photon/ET4G forums need your wisdom and advice
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Why are reading this thread? You knew what you would find when you openend it.
I'm still here because I own an Evo 3D, why the heck do you think I'm still here? Dumbass.
I don't believe that other manufactures are that much better. I guess try one and see. With that said I feel as though source should be released THE SAME TIME AS the update or with in a week. None of this 30 day/when we get to it crap.
WatermelonSlim said:
Why are reading this thread? You knew what you would find when you openend it.
I'm still here because I own an Evo 3D, why the heck do you think I'm still here? Dumbass.
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No need to start the childish name calling...
My point is simple sell it if you don't like it... Then tell your boy friend and all your chums you think HTC is bollocks...
Complaining about it isn't getting you far on xda...
Reverting to your childish ways I can tell you don't know how to handle your self when sarcasm and questions are directed at you...rather than name calling a simple "i own it,and I'm gonna make sure everyone knows I hate it" answer would have sufficed...
And I'm the dumbass.... Lol
Atleast I know when to let things go and move on..
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yeah this gets kinda old but does anyone really spit out their kernel source in a timely manner besides Google?
I remember this guy running at the mouth talking about HTC delays last year.
http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2011/12/24/
Bear gri11z said:
No need to start the childish name calling...
My point is simple sell it if you don't like it... Then tell your boy friend and all your chums you think HTC is bollocks...
Complaining about it isn't getting you far on xda...
Reverting to your childish ways I can tell you don't know how to handle your self when sarcasm and questions are directed at you...rather than name calling a simple "i own it,and I'm gonna make sure everyone knows I hate it" answer would have sufficed...
And I'm the dumbass.... Lol
Atleast I know when to let things go and move on..
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You came in here and made an entire post dedicated to me, and then say you know how to let things go and move on?
lol, dumbass
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You came in here and made an entire post dedicated to me, and then say you know how to let things go and move on?
lol, dumbass
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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You asked what I am still doing here. In a thread that was not started by me, with several other replies, every single one of them *****ing about HTC, you decided to ask ME what I'm still doing here. So I told you, I have an Evo 3d, why the heck do you think I'm still here?
Why don't I sell it? Because there isn't another 3D phone on Sprint at the moment and I got stuck in a 2 year contract when I bought this phone. Common sense.
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I am talking about the phone... Let the EVO 3d go... And move on... Obviously you have nothing good to say about it..
Dedicated to you? Not so much... A question to you.. yes I'm sorry do I need to ask your permission to talk to you first?
I can see from your previous posts/arguments you have reason NOT to sell your phone and move on...
With that I will move on as the only thing you know how to do is bicker over a question...I wish you the best and hope you over come your personality complex
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I agree with him - this phone is "meh" AT BEST as long as HTC does business this way. I'm constantly checking my contract end date because I'm going to bail unless HTC changes things. Unfortunately, it's probably going to be a sammy. Oh I almost forgot to ask - please bugger off.
WatermelonSlim said:
Great post. I agree 100%.
That post sums up the reasons why I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. And when all the people who come to me for help with their phones ask for advice (which is several times per week), I will make sure I tell them all to get a Samsung or Motorola. I won't be recommending anymore HTC devices.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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aweskelo said:
I agree with him - this phone is "meh" AT BEST as long as HTC does business this way. I'm constantly checking my contract end date because I'm going to bail unless HTC changes things. Unfortunately, it's probably going to be a sammy. Oh I almost forgot to ask - please bugger off.
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how quick does Sammy release their source code????
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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I haven't seen it. I'm hoping now that google owns them things will change. I won't be buying one of their phones until they are unlockable though, so it doesn't matter.
Samsung is a viable alternative though. Fully unlockable on day 1 and source.code released in a timely manner.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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Yeah Motorola aren't saints either, matter fact, all of these phone manufacturers are no good, its just a matter of picking your poison when choosing a manufacturer & phone. Had 3 Samsung phones (Moment, Epic, & Nexus S 4G), but I chose to stick with HTC because of the huge dev community behind it, & I'm at peace with that choice.
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Obviously haven't seen the sh*t storm going on in those forums lately esp the Razor since Moto refuses to unlock their bootloaders even after stating specifically last year that they would be unlockable...
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how quick does Sammy release their source code????
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Now thats a positive for Sammy, I seen them release source code BEFORE carriers release OTA's!
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HTC has a long history of both raising and dashing hopes of Android upgrades on its devices. Moreover, the Australian network Telstra has often led that emotional rollercoaster, which means the detail on its software update page above is probably best approached with an air of detached calm. It tells us that both the HTC One XL (the global version of the American One X) and the One S have official Jelly Bean updates being "prepared" by HTC -- which is slightly more specific than what we last heard on this subject, when the manufacturer said it was "excited" about Google's latest OS version and planned to support it "across a variety" of handsets. If you happen to own a non-LTE, Tegra 3-based One X, then the absence of that handset on the list doesn't mean much -- that model simply isn't part of the carrier's line-up.
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(UPDATE): Confirmed by HTC for One X, XL, and S
Cool find, but still willing to bet at least 6 months before it hits state side.
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Cool find, but still willing to bet at least 6 months before it hits state side.
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Maybe, but at least we know they're working on it. This is pretty exciting because it should mean we'll get it pretty soon as well.
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Maybe, but at least we know they're working on it. This is pretty exciting because it should mean we'll get it pretty soon as well.
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We'll have it unofficially long before its ever released by HTC/Sprint
I'm mostly excited about getting the Google Now features.
I think HTC will actually hurry up with this. They released a flagship lineup about a month before announcement. If they don't update it soon, their reputation may go down the drain. A major smartphone company that cannot keep flagship device up to date is laughable. And more reasons for iSheep to take a stab at whole issue.
I know the official Evo LTE update is far off, but if official JB released on One X, maybe it will allow our amazing developers port it faster.
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Maybe, but at least we know they're working on it. This is pretty exciting because it should mean we'll get it pretty soon as well.
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I kinda have it working, in a very half-assed way on Sense 4.0. Cards freeze, voice does not work, but it's an interesting idea.
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I think HTC will actually hurry up with this. They released a flagship lineup about a month before announcement. If they don't update it soon, their reputation may go down the drain. A major smartphone company that cannot keep flagship device up to date is laughable. And more reasons for iSheep to take a stab at whole issue.
I know the official Evo LTE update is far off, but if official JB released on One X, maybe it will allow our amazing developers port it faster.
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I kinda have it working, in a very half-assed way on Sense 4.0. Cards freeze, voice does not work, but it's an interesting idea.
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I'm not as worried about HTC getting it done as much as Sprint getting their heads out of their asses and just getting it out there as soon as they get it.
Meanee said:
I think HTC will actually hurry up with this. They released a flagship lineup about a month before announcement. If they don't update it soon, their reputation may go down the drain. A major smartphone company that cannot keep flagship device up to date is laughable. And more reasons for iSheep to take a stab at whole issue.
I know the official Evo LTE update is far off, but if official JB released on One X, maybe it will allow our amazing developers port it faster.
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I kinda have it working, in a very half-assed way on Sense 4.0. Cards freeze, voice does not work, but it's an interesting idea.
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Can't always go by that. Look how long it took Samsung to get Gingerbread out to the GS I variants and the GS II are just getting ICS but Samsung is still the top smartphone company in the world and the GS brand is second behind the iPhone in sales.
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Can't always go by that. Look how long it took Samsung to get Gingerbread out to the GS I variants and the GS II are just getting ICS but Samsung is still the top smartphone company in the world and the GS brand is second behind the iPhone in sales.
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Yeah. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 still doesn't have ICS on it.
I will chime in and say let's not forget how quickly Sprint updated the EVO 4G from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread. It was technically the first U.S. phone upgraded to Froyo outside the Nexus line. It received numerous updates regularly as it was their biggest phone to date. The 3D was kind of a bastard child and came out when there wasn't any major new phone release of Android. So when ICS was announced it was back to the usual wait game. Plus all OEM's were pretty slow on ICS upgrades since it was a major upgrade instead of a point release. Since Jelly Bean is just a point release I'm sure HTC will be faster to upgrade Sense to accommodate the new features just as they have in the past. Plus as mentioned they just released all of their flagship phones so this upgrade is important for them as new flagships still have another year before release.
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I will chime in and say let's not forget how quickly Sprint updated the EVO 4G from Eclair to Froyo to Gingerbread. It was technically the first U.S. phone upgraded to Froyo outside the Nexus line. It received numerous updates regularly as it was their biggest phone to date. The 3D was kind of a bastard child and came out when there wasn't any major new phone release of Android. So when ICS was announced it was back to the usual wait game. Plus all OEM's were pretty slow on ICS upgrades since it was a major upgrade instead of a point release. Since Jelly Bean is just a point release I'm sure HTC will be faster to upgrade Sense to accommodate the new features just as they have in the past. Plus as mentioned they just released all of their flagship phones so this upgrade is important for them as new flagships still have another year before release.
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I can agree with this. As long as they don't screw us like they did with the EVO 3D (which is still without ICS).
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I can agree with this. As long as they don't screw us like they did with the EVO 3D (which is still without ICS).
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Lol I know what you mean and maybe I'm just optimistic but I don't think they will. The EVO 4G LTE is now the equivalent of what the EVO 4G was back when it was released. It's Sprint's baby and they want to keep it popular. You noticed they actually have commercials and ads promoting it and how quickly they had a commercial when they released the white version. Plus the biggest thing to factor in is it's the middle of the year, there is no other EVO coming out until around this time next year, there is no next big thing for them to sit on the update so that you go out and buy it. As far as the EVO goes this is it. (I don't count phones like the design or shift cause they aren't flagships just carriers of the EVO brand name to sell phones)
I thought the One XL was the S4 version?
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Lol I know what you mean and maybe I'm just optimistic but I don't think they will. The EVO 4G LTE is now the equivalent of what the EVO 4G was back when it was released. It's Sprint's baby and they want to keep it popular. You noticed they actually have commercials and ads promoting it and how quickly they had a commercial when they released the white version. Plus the biggest thing to factor in is it's the middle of the year, there is no other EVO coming out until around this time next year, there is no next big thing for them to sit on the update so that you go out and buy it. As far as the EVO goes this is it. (I don't count phones like the design or shift cause they aren't flagships just carriers of the EVO brand name to sell phones)
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Well, when the EVO 3D came out, it had a lot of strong backing from Sprint commercials because of all the "Unlimited Data" commercials. It was always featured. But it quickly died off because it was literally a stepchild.
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I thought the One XL was the S4 version?
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It is..the one xl is the s4 version of the hox..att didn't wanna name it that bc they wanted the original hox moniker and exclusivity of the one x line
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It is..the one xl is the s4 version of the hox..att didn't wanna name it that bc they wanted the original hox moniker and exclusivity of the one x line
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I was curious because the article mentioned something about non-Tegra devices getting upgrades, when the XL is an S4 device.
But I only skimmed, it makes more sense now that I read it more thoroughly.
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Well, when the EVO 3D came out, it had a lot of strong backing from Sprint commercials because of all the "Unlimited Data" commercials. It was always featured. But it quickly died off because it was literally a stepchild.
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Ok, I didn't really pay attention to those commercials. And yes it was. It reached EOL much quicker than the EVO 4G.
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I was curious because the article mentioned something about non-Tegra devices getting upgrades, when the XL is an S4 device.
But I only skimmed, it makes more sense now that I read it more thoroughly.
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Yeah I think what the article was trying to get at was that you should expect an update for the One X as well because the only phones Telstra carries are the One XL and One S so they wouldn't mention it. And HTC won't update the XL without updating the X
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I'm mostly excited about getting the Google Now features.
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This. I'm really excited about this and the rest of the upgrades will be a bonus :good:
After December fellas
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After December fellas
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Dont know why but those three words hold more weight than this entire thread
Not sure, where to put this, so i just leave this a general info, that JellyBean is being worked on by HTC maybe even for our device.
this is coming from a HTC developers code details. By accident i stubled upon some source to honeycomb 3.2.2 and it was published by a HTC developer.
but looking at his googlecode you can find some wierd stuff and pictures also. (totally not XDA, but fun)
check this googlecode out.
you even see snaps of a flyer source build in progress if you look carefully.
i wondered about writing him at his @HTC.com email, but hell, im not the one publishing code on the internet
I'm not a developer, so seeing those files Dexter can you conclude how much work is done? Or is being done?
Amazing find though, keep up the great work!
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I'm not a developer, so seeing those files Dexter can you conclude how much work is done? Or is being done?
Amazing find though, keep up the great work!
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i honestly cannot see, since he actually got his hands on a environment with many builds.
It seems somehow he is a developer of the media part of the htc phones, so somehow he got the full access, but of course only work on a very specific part of the new builds. but sure, its JB builds he got working there, he even names some of his code, JB. or maybe he just like bieber LOL
anyways a little fun, and we get HTC's you rock snaps included from their year end party as well.
Well I hope we do get official Jelly Bean
Or you could just send them your ROM to fix
This would be amazing. So long without any updates, even no ICS, and BAM - skip right up to 4.1 jelly bean?
A dream that should come true.
i like how the page is 403'ing now
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i like how the page is 403'ing now
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i guess some jananese guy read my post and reported it.
too stupid to have htc code and other things laying around like that.
super bummed.... i know i was grasping at straws but damn if i didn't feel even the tiniest bit of hope pop up inside me when reading this the other day....
i didn't want to get too excited. but after reading your reply i can tell i must have already fallen for the excitement, as i'm supper bummed out now
why would they work on ICS/JB for the flyer and not even give us any clue about it?
I read the post on Facebook and I really don't know what to think about it, what is wrong with them.
Why don't they tell us about it, just to be able in any case to cancel it.
We paid good money for the flyer and it is not even two years old.
Their Honeycomb Upgrade was/is terrible so we really deserve that. At the beginning (May 2011) this Tab was sold for $1794.99 by Amazon.com!
Now they removed even the introductory price information of Wikipedia, luckily there is a picture of it before they did it.
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Actually this info isn't in Wikipedia anymore, check it out here-> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Flyer)
Really hope they surprise us with Jelly Bean (unbelievable that now this even feels like a "dreaming" although at the beginning I thought that an upgrade for the flyer would be so obvious)
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i guess some jananese guy read my post and reported it.
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I was to late to check it out :/
Another thing, I figured out how reproduce a "HTC bug report" on the official HC. I mean I can randomly (like a loop) generate this bug so that a bug report is send to HTC.
Do you thing if i can organize a "Flashmob bug report" this would disturb HTC or at least they would notice us? :fingers-crossed:
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I read the post on Facebook and I really don't know what to think about it, what is wrong with them.
Why don't they tell us about it, just to be able in any case to cancel it.
We paid good money for the flyer and it is not even two years old.
Their Honeycomb Upgrade was/is terrible so we really deserve that. At the beginning (May 2011) this Tab was sold for $1794.99 by Amazon.com!
Now they removed even the introductory price information of Wikipedia, luckily there is a picture of it before they did it.
Actually this info isn't in Wikipedia anymore, check it out here-> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Flyer)
Really hope they surprise us with Jelly Bean (unbelievable that now this even feels like a "dreaming" although at the beginning I thought that an upgrade for the flyer would be so obvious)
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I was to late to check it out :/
Another thing, I figured out how reproduce a "HTC bug report" on the official HC. I mean I can randomly (like a loop) generate this bug so that a bug report is send to HTC.
Do you thing if i can organize a "Flashmob bug report" this would disturb HTC or at least they would notice us? :fingers-crossed:
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dont use wiki as a source ever. About the bug reporting, sound s good. But, like you said” randomly” so how can so many users do this report if the cause is random.
I meant I can do it in purpose. Every time like a loop, with 2 klicks.
My English is not that good, I thought randomly means something like a loop.
It has to do with an "app plugin update" in the "HTC hub/likes"
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I don't think HTC believes our tablets are worth saving even though we know how much we love our tabs. JB would be awesome because unlike most, I love sense and if we got a JB with sense, I'd flip but again I don't expect it.
I never felt such disappointment for a device before, this particular case with the flyer is really an epic fail. Maybe the biggest fail in the whole android update history. $699 and not even a year in support... just one crappie HC upgrade.
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I never felt such disappointment for a device before, this particular case with the flyer is really an epic fail. Maybe the biggest fail in the whole android update history. $699 and not even a year in support... just one crappie HC upgrade.
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actully LG optimus 4X is doing alot worse when it comes to support and whatever that follows. even the section is near "legacy devices" state.
It's a small comfort but thanks. It's neck and neck.
The only thing that keeps me on the flyer is the s-pen and the 7 inches. But now I heard YouTube that Samsung brought out a pen that works on all capacities displays. And it is also useable as a bluetooth headset. Just the price I heard wasn't nice, 80€. And the pressure sense Is surely missing.
But if that's true from now on I would focus in nexus devices only.
I care about the specs a lot but after this case I actually care more about the support. Till now even the prices of nexus devices are a lot nicer then other ones.
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It's a small comfort but thanks. It's neck and neck.
The only thing that keeps me on the flyer is the s-pen and the 7 inches. But now I heard YouTube that Samsung brought out a pen that works on all capacities displays. And it is also useable as a bluetooth headset. Just the price I heard wasn't nice, 80€. And the pressure sense Is surely missing.
But if that's true from now on I would focus in nexus devices only.
I care about the specs a lot but after this case I actually care more about the support. Till now even the prices of nexus devices are a lot nicer then other ones.
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+1 pen and seven inch form factor has me sticking with flyer. Do you have any more info on the Samsung pen? I might be interested in that.
Edit: nvm found it. Looking into it now
What a surprise - no further tablets from HTC
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-drops-out-of-us-tablet-market-for-now-20121010/
Edit: well I guess they just won't sell tablets in USA (why what did we do to them?) but what does that mean for the rest of the world? And if they do produce a tablet I wonder if it would be competitively priced and supported by them for more than 6 months.
I will look for more info and hope that pen exist.
I was just playing with the Note 10.1 (just checking out the handwriting capabilities) . I must say i I like it a lot. Writing on it felt smooth and it consistently correctly converted my horrible chicken scratch of a handwriting. The predictive text worked pretty well also. But it's not the seven inch form factor that I prefer and it is lacking the quality feel of my beloved flyer.
See, this is what I'm talking about here, HTC and their lies and bull****. The EVO LTE is the One X, yet, we have no ****ing 4.0.4 while EVERY OTHER US variant does. Well, that's the last damn straw with me... Proceeding to harass GPL off this bull****.
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It's definitely a bummer.
I'm happy w my EVO LTE. Not happy with HTCs way of handling things as a business. They fail to support their customers lol.
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It's definitely a bummer.
I'm happy w my EVO LTE. Not happy with HTCs way of handling things as a business. They fail to support their customers lol.
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Some guy had the nerve to try and say I'm out of control. HTC is scrambling and losing because of bull**** post purchase service. If htc suddenly said "**** it, w need money so we are providing a universal s-off tool, BUT IT WILL VOID WARRANTY" people would buy the phones so damn fast it'll be like the itc hold up again. Samsung doesn't care about root and thats why they sale. Not to mention bull**** advertising by HTC. Yea, advertise beats audio with a guy running to bull**** music, let's forget slcd2 screen, beast specs & huge screen. Man, ass backwards, I won't be surprised if **** phone 5 doesn't smoke whatever bull crap phone htc is releasing next.
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Welcome back
Looks like I need to create a fake FB to troll HTC harder.
I hate having this techy stuff pop up on my friends feed
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Dude I'm so pissed with HTC and noobs are defending them like The LTEVO isn't riddled with bugs and the One X wasn't rushed and basically a "test" model.
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Who wants 4.0.4? I am getting ready for my favorite dessert, Jelly Bean.
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You guys get pissed about the dumbest things.... Just because its a higher version, doesn't mean its better. Chill out, sprint has something to do about it as well
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You guys get pissed about the dumbest things.... Just because its a higher version, doesn't mean its better. Chill out, sprint has something to do about it as well
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Dude, don't come in here trying to flame bait up the thread. Your probably non confrontational anyways, that seems to be the norm around here
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Dude, don't come in here trying to flame bait up the thread. Your probably non confrontational anyways, that seems to be the norm around here
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Hey man. Keep fighting the good fight. We are behind you. I have been writing emails and posting on facebook walls. Doing what I can.
Eh, I don't know why you guys expect us to get everything the One X gets. Yes, the two phones are similar, but they have different development paths and different carriers.
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Eh, I don't know why you guys expect us to get everything the One X gets. Yes, the two phones are similar, but they have different development paths and different carriers.
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the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Some guy had the nerve to try and say I'm out of control. HTC is scrambling and losing because of bull**** post purchase service. If htc suddenly said "**** it, w need money so we are providing a universal s-off tool, BUT IT WILL VOID WARRANTY" people would buy the phones so damn fast it'll be like the itc hold up again. Samsung doesn't care about root and thats why they sale. Not to mention bull**** advertising by HTC. Yea, advertise beats audio with a guy running to bull**** music, let's forget slcd2 screen, beast specs & huge screen. Man, ass backwards, I won't be surprised if **** phone 5 doesn't smoke whatever bull crap phone htc is releasing next.
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HTC isn't losing much at all from not upgrading their phones. The majority of Android users will not understand or care about version numbers. Android is no longer something for just "nerds" like us. It has the largest market share of any mobile OS. HTC is losing money because they don't have lower end phones, and also because the name isn't as well known as Samsung or Apple in the US.
1) HTC cannot guarantee an update window without being sure of it. With this update being new, they will still have to go through Sprint and all of that before it gets to us. HTC probably has no way of knowing how long it will take, so they aren't giving us any sort of ETA.
2) This phone will obviously receive the update. That shouldn't even be questioned. It is essentially the same phone as the One X, but locked down to a single carrier. This most likely makes us the last priority because we are the smallest group. The One X is available in many more areas than the Evo is. HTC probably wants to get through the biggest group first and then focus on us.
3) You're being unnecessarily angry. The update was just released TODAY, meaning that it probably won't even be on every One X for a few days at least. Just because some HTC drone paid to avoid giving you answers told you on Facebook that they don't have any information to share with you doesn't mean we will be waiting a month for this update to come. Could we have to wait that long? Yes. But there is no proof that we will.
4) The current update we are on with this phone is good. The phone itself works fine. Why do we need this update instantly? Would you prefer HTC rush it out and have to deal with bugs? Why would you want to do that? If it isn't ready for release yet, then you just have to deal with that. Pestering them on Facebook isn't going to get them to go any faster. Spamming them with e-mails probably isn't going to either. There is no legally binding document that says they have to release this update. They will though.
Honestly, it is common sense that we will see this update in the future. When will we see it? We don't know. But to go on an expletive filled tirade just because HTC doesn't have a bone to throw at you on the first day that the update is available on carriers that are much less restrictive than Sprint is just immature and unnecessary.
Newsflash: it's easier to update a phone when you don't have to go through carriers. Also, upgrading phones outside of the US is much easier because a lot of less restrictive carriers. It'll happen, but HTC had to focus on one or the other first, and common sense says we weren't chosen because we're the smaller group.
Exactly..and they have pretty much the same software besides the bloat apps..but believe me they are not very happy either..devs are leaving and the bootloaders are locked up tighter than a nuns ass...I don't understand HTCs intentions but it could all be fixed with one simple upload of source
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the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Who said we aren't going to get the update? Oh wait, that's right, nobody did.
flex360 said:
the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Think about what I said and your response to it for just a second. Is that second over? Ok, let's try that again.
1) Did I state there is not support or that we will not get support?
If your answer is no, you have survived round one and are allowed to continue!
2) Think about 4.1. What if HTC and/or Sprint thinks 4.0.4 is a waste of time and decides, hey, why don't we just develop 4.1 for the LTEvo instead? I mean, that could be money better spent, right? So, are we with AT&T and have the One X, or are we Sprint and have the LTEvo?
If your answer is Sprint and the LTEvo, you have survived round two and allowed to continue!
3) So where does it state that we will absolutely get everything that the One X gets? Is there anything concrete that links our LTEvo development to the One X?
If your answer is nowhere and nothing, you have won the game!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
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Think about what I said and your response to it for just a second. Is that second over? Ok, let's try that again.
1) Did I state there is not support or that we will not get support?
If your answer is no, you have survived round one and are allowed to continue!
2) Think about 4.1. What if HTC and/or Sprint thinks 4.0.4 is a waste of time and decides, hey, why don't we just develop 4.1 for the LTEvo instead? I mean, that could be money better spent, right? So, are we with AT&T and have the One X, or are we Sprint and have the LTEvo?
If your answer is Sprint and the LTEvo, you have survived round two and allowed to continue!
3) So where does it state that we will absolutely get everything that the One X gets? Is there anything concrete that links our LTEvo development to the One X?
If your answer is nowhere and nothing, you have won the game!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
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I like you.
Pro HTC? Can't you see, post purchase service is **** all across the board. The desire HD excuse is a perfect example. Your idea of carrier lock down is somewhat true BUT can be solved. I don't know why they let carriers muscle them. Apple says **** you, sale our **** or GTFO & they bend. HTC needs to do the same & Sammy does too. These cellular politics piss me off. I wonder what EXCUSE we'll get for not having android 5. I would much rather them come out & say "yo, we not upgrading your old ass phone. Buy a new one or GTFO"
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Nice to see you back man. Generally like your posts and threads.
It does seem like the LTE is getting left out right now but I'm not gonna freak unless a pattern develops
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I like you.
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I don't..sarcasm and being a d/ck isn't any better than the ppl u are *****ing about..personally I don't care about 4.04..the source is a whole other ordeal..
Seeing the development forum and the original I come to the conclusion that its to difficult or this device is not popular with devs. I coming from Samsung s4 and there the custom roms are many and updated each month.
The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what "niche" means
I'm here
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The Ultra is a niche device. The S4 is not. The end.
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Yep that's true can't argue with that. S4 is a horrible device so that's why I dumped it
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I'm here
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Thank god for that! Also Kali checks in now and then, FXP is present, and there are the ones over at the Z1 section.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what "niche" means
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As in a situation in which a business' products or services can succeed by being sold to a particular kind or group of people (which in this case is us), or the short version "a specialized market". The Galaxy Note started out as a niche product, and now it's "mainstream".
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Thank god for that! Also Kali checks in now and then, FXP is present, and there are the ones over at the Z1 section.
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As in a situation in which a business' products or services can succeed by being sold to a particular kind or group of people (which in this case is us), or the short version "a specialized market". The Galaxy Note started out as a niche product, and now it's "mainstream".
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Just notified Kali about some changes I made to device tree for kitkat
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S4 is a horrible device so that's why I dumped it
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:good::good:
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Seeing the development forum and the original I come to the conclusion that its to difficult or this device is not popular with devs. I coming from Samsung s4 and there the custom roms are many and updated each month.
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I'm making a ROM at the moment. Its 98% finished and should be up soon. I'm learning, and the "updater-script" has two status 7 errors that me and my testers are trying to solve. Its just a very slow process as my ultra is away so thats making the cooking/testing process so damn slow... and my unit take a month to get it fixed!
I hate living so bloody far away from the world!
Hopefully will see kernels that allow us to optimize the camera increase the sensitivity of the touchscreen.
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On mobile....
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I'm making a ROM at the moment. Its 98% finished and should be up soon. I'm learning, and the "updater-script" has two status 7 errors that me and my testers are trying to solve. Its just a very slow process as my ultra is away so thats making the cooking/testing process so damn slow... and my unit take a month to get it fixed!
I hate living so bloody far away from the world!
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Delete the getprop files in the updater script.
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Delete the getprop files in the updater script.
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Not using any. Its setting the permissions thats proving a problem.
I'm boarding a plane as we speak, and will be back possibly tomorrow/ more than likely Sunday after debreif and all the paperwork.. So will have to wait until im back.
yeah the forum for z ultra is the most boring one ever, as its not 1% active as the samsung devices forums.
I respect all devs who try their best here, maybe there is not room for improvement on it that devs can add on
i miss the amazing themes i used to see on samsung devices while here we don't have themes we have wallpapers and such. At samsung i used to have themes that give me a feeling i own a new device whenever i change themes
devs at samsung forums are really very very engaged in dev and modding and everyday there is something new.
Flashing mods and roms was piece of cake at samsung while here we have to look at unlocking our boot loader which sucks, also I don't see any modded kernels and the huge dev as in samsung forums
I miss samsung if only i could sell the z ultra without losing money i would go back in a second to a samsung device
No offense dude, but stow it. Every single post you make, you're complaining about something, and it's invariably your fault for being disappointed. If you want themes, go check the Themes and Apps forum, there are plenty of different designs there. Or, just get the Themer app that's come out recently for one-touch theming.
Furthermore, complaining about unlocked your bootloader is ridiculous. It takes literally, all of 30 seconds once you get the email with your unlock code in it. Just do it, and quit whining. Or don't. Just quit whining, because the ability is there. We've got a very good Paranoid Android ROM, we've got 4.3 Carbon (which I have used a lot on my Nexus 4; it's good), we've got CyanogenMod 10.2, we've got PAC-Man ROM, we've even got a rapidly-improving AOSP 4.4 ROM. What more do you want? I guess if you don't like AOSP it sucks, but even then, we have two stock 4.2.2 ROMs if you just can't deal with vanilla Android for some reason.
Bottom line: there's not as much development for the XZU as for a company that has sold more than 100 MILLION DEVICES. Are you surprised? If so, it's your fault. Seriously, if you dropped $700 on this phone without knowing a single thing about it, I really have to question your general life skills.
Does this answer your question? The solution is not to buy yet another Samsung device. The solution is to support a different OEM, so Samsung doesn't rape the market even more.
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AntiLazarus said:
No offense dude, but stow it. Every single post you make, you're complaining about something, and it's invariably your fault for being disappointed. If you want themes, go check the Themes and Apps forum, there are plenty of different designs there. Or, just get the Themer app that's come out recently for one-touch theming.
Furthermore, complaining about unlocked your bootloader is ridiculous. It takes literally, all of 30 seconds once you get the email with your unlock code in it. Just do it, and quit whining. Or don't. Just quit whining, because the ability is there. We've got a very good Paranoid Android ROM, we've got 4.3 Carbon (which I have used a lot on my Nexus 4; it's good), we've got CyanogenMod 10.2, we've got PAC-Man ROM, we've even got a rapidly-improving AOSP 4.4 ROM. What more do you want? I guess if you don't like AOSP it sucks, but even then, we have two stock 4.2.2 ROMs if you just can't deal with vanilla Android for some reason.
Bottom line: there's not as much development for the XZU as for a company that has sold more than 100 MILLION DEVICES. Are you surprised? If so, it's your fault. Seriously, if you dropped $700 on this phone without knowing a single thing about it, I really have to question your general life skills.
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as usual fanboy answer hahahahahahahha u make me crack you are 100% fanboy, do u wear a T-shirt with sony logo on it
Yeah that's right, just ignore everything I said. It makes you look real good.
Please continue indiscriminately buying phones without knowing anything about them, but don't blame other people for your stupid mistakes.
hykhleif said:
as usual fanboy answer hahahahahahahha u make me crack you are 100% fanboy, do u wear a T-shirt with sony logo on it
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You're exactly 3 seconds away from being reported. Why don't you just give the Ultra back to your dad and ask him if you can get the Note 3 for christmas or something? Or even better, get a job as a paperboy and save up some money
hykhleif said:
yeah the forum for z ultra is the most boring one ever, as its not 1% active as the samsung devices forums.
I respect all devs who try their best here, maybe there is not room for improvement on it that devs can add on
i miss the amazing themes i used to see on samsung devices while here we don't have themes we have wallpapers and such. At samsung i used to have themes that give me a feeling i own a new device whenever i change themes
devs at samsung forums are really very very engaged in dev and modding and everyday there is something new.
Flashing mods and roms was piece of cake at samsung while here we have to look at unlocking our boot loader which sucks, also I don't see any modded kernels and the huge dev as in samsung forums
I miss samsung if only i could sell the z ultra without losing money i would go back in a second to a samsung device
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Theme? Don't know why but imho, Sony UI doesn't need any other theme. I bet you i never got bored whenever Sony's UI is on. On the other hand, Android stock theme will get boring over time. So the ability to choose theme is a must for them. Samsung TouchWiz? Yuck, no wonder you need to change the theme If you insist, there's always an aftermarket launcher so no excuse to say the theme selection is too limited.
Every exploit comes with a root so if Samsung phones are easier to root, CMIIW but it is prone to be attacked by hacker. So that's two sides of coin actually.. When you're able to get root, you can question the security of the device. So it is a great progression and care by Sony to patch the software even though you have to compromise for no root. But you do insist to have root don't you? well unlocking bootloader is the way then.
Just checked his previous threads and the conclusion is that he's that guy. You know, the whiner. He even whined in the Note 2, and S3 section. He's just an intolerant, sad and bored individual.