Root and knox - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3

I don't have the note 3 yet but I keep reading that rooting causes some knox stuff not to work. I am curious if someone can tell me exactly what knox features stop working from root? Thanks
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musclehead84 said:
I don't have the note 3 yet but I keep reading that rooting causes some knox stuff not to work. I am curious if someone can tell me exactly what knox features stop working from root? Thanks
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The KNOX flag being tripped may prevent certain Samsung KNOX features from working (enterprise security features) if you don't plan on using it in a business/corporate environment your probably ok

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New update OTA status, any one installed yet?

Just checked got a 19 MB update after manually checking. Has anyone installed it yet?
Does it remove features, add features or security updates to prevent root?
If you don't know how to check:
1) menu button (left of the home button it doesn't light up till you touch it)
2) click "settings"
3) scroll down (run your finger toward the top of the screen) till you see system update.
4) select system update (I kind of recommend that you be on wifi or 4G before checking)
5) click update It should then check for an update and then download it and ask if you want to install.
If you are new and have not yet got used to rooting phone be aware that by installing it, that it may cause errors, loss of root, or even dogs to say meow and Cartman to be nice by installing it.
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I rooted after the update everything went smoothly.
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rbaucom said:
Just checked got a 19 MB update after manually checking. Has anyone installed it yet?
Does it remove features, add features or security updates to prevent root?
If you don't know how to check:
1) menu button (left of the home button it doesn't light up till you touch it)
2) click "settings"
3) scroll down (run your finger toward the top of the screen) till you see system update.
4) select system update (I kind of recommend that you be on wifi or 4G before checking)
5) click update It should then check for an update and then download it and ask if you want to install.
If you are new and have not yet got used to rooting phone be aware that by installing it, that it may cause errors, loss of root, or even dogs to say meow and Cartman to be nice by installing it.
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Supposedly its an update for allowing the use of benchmarking applications.. And yes root like jurey24 said still works! :good:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/10/04/sprints-day-one-mi5-ota-update-for-the-galaxy-note-3-may-remove-controversial-benchmark-boosts/....
Did it add features take away features?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-3-may-remove-controversial-benchmark-boosts/
Looks like the only thing it did was allow you to download bench mark apps which was stated earlier
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36 hours and I'm already tired of looking at that update notification.
Is it still believed that this update is safe with respect to future rooting and knox avoidance?
Thanks.
ogretech said:
36 hours and I'm already tired of looking at that update notification.
Is it still believed that this update is safe with respect to future rooting and knox avoidance?
Thanks.
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I updated and then ran CF root, no issues and no Knox reset
piaa_nissan said:
I updated and then ran CF root, no issues and no Knox reset
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No Knox trip, how you get away with that?
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No, nothing changed on the 0X1 status from my original root
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The Knox changed to 0X1 after I rooted it, it never reset or changed back to 0X0. The counter was tripped and stayed that way
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cherylbaker said:
How? Everything I have read says rooting trips the counter. . How do you check it. Can you get a picture for us. I will root right now and start working on a custom Rom if I can root without tripping it
note 2 for sale pm me if interested
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No matter what u do the counter will trip.. It was at 0x0 before root and now it's at 0x1 after
Love roots of all kinds
~N3
Just put the phone into download/Odin mode and it will be at the top. I've heard some phone don't have the counter but I can't say for sure. Since mine will never be used business I rooted. I have a square trade warranty if I have issues
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There's nothing in their contact terms that state they would care or even look. Last time I had a claim with my note 2 they never said a word and claim went fine.
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Haven't seen an update available yet.. has it taken care of the noises ?!?
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cherylbaker said:
Cool.. Going to root this weekend and start working on a rom.. hope twrp gets working correctly soon.
note 2 for sale pm me if interested
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I rooted mine via Chainfires auto-root last Friday when i picked up my N3 and although it did change my Knox flag to 0x1 as reported by everyone else, I have not experienced any issues with restoring backups from TWRP.
As others said, there's nothing in Sprint's contract (that I'm aware of) pertaining specifically to root. The only time the Knox counter MIGHT matter is if you had to send it into Samsung directly for service. But then again, all of us know that rooting/modding our phones is an inherited/know risk taken by each user... or at least I hope this is true.
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Other options to remove bloatware

I did a dumb thing of trying to upgrade the firmware to mi5 and I got the knox warranty issue 0x1. The reason I'm really pissed is because I can't find another way to get rid of bloatware. Anyone have any suggestions
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Are you rooted ? Use any of the root explorers. ..
I personally have used this since the og evo
https://db.tt/bLGh4EgC
It's sdx stock app remover
But you can do the same with root Explorer ... rom toolbox etc
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I was rooted but recently got the knox warranty issue. Looks like it's not gonna be a fix for this and trying to find a way without being rooted
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This link may help you as much of the work has already been done. Keep in mind that this script is for ATT, however the samsung apps are all the same on all the devices. Refer to the link for help with the script/apk. I think this is what you are looking for though.. I do believe you have to be rooted.. but I don't think that will be an issue for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464694
quantumtransfer said:
This link may help you as much of the work has already been done. Keep in mind that this script is for ATT, however the samsung apps are all the same on all the devices. Refer to the link for help with the script/apk. I think this is what you are looking for though.. I do believe you have to be rooted.. but I don't think that will be an issue for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464694
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Thanks look nice but I can't root my phone cuz I the knox 0x1 error
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JAdderly said:
Thanks look nice but I can't root my phone cuz I the knox 0x1 error
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Take a look into this... I just threw this together for folks..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496454
quantumtransfer said:
Take a look into this... I just threw this together for folks..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496454
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I saw that. My phone isn't rooted anymore. Your phone have to be rooted to run the wanam modules. Once you have the knox 0x1 error its a rap. I'm trying to find a alternative way to remove bloatware if any.
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I had my phone rooted on m13. I wanted to get m15 so I can tether. Without reading about the know warranty I Odin to m13 updated to m15 and when I tried to root again I got the error. I should have read about the new knox security first but I didn't and I'm stock with a stock phone with bloatware. I hate bloatware
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JAdderly said:
I had my phone rooted on m13. I wanted to get m15 so I can tether. Without reading about the know warranty I Odin to m13 updated to m15 and when I tried to root again I got the error. I should have read about the new knox security first but I didn't and I'm stock with a stock phone with bloatware. I hate bloatware
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I don't understand. . Why can't you just root your phone. . Knox being blown Doesn't stop you from rooting
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cherylbaker said:
I don't understand. . Why can't you just root your phone. . Knox being blown Doesn't stop you from rooting
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My thought exactly, if you're already flagged, just root again with chainfire. I used Titanium Backup to remove the apps (and backed them up too just in case) now that it's fixed and working.
cherylbaker said:
I don't understand. . Why can't you just root your phone. . Knox being blown Doesn't stop you from rooting
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With the knox 0x1 you can't use the auto root. I will try another method
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[Q] Rooted Knox 0x0 custom options ?

Ok, yes I know of the search bar but I am still going to ask since we are early in development. Besides Root De La Vega to MJ4 with a hacked hotspot, and wanam xposed, are there any other custom options we can play with that will not trip knox (and hopefully keep data intact).
Why even care about Knox ? You are never going to send the phone into Samsung to be repaired so go ahead and customize it all the way
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Maybe I will sometime, for now just wondering is there anything else
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Sprint can't deny service on your phone just because it's rooted .... It's in your tos .... You may have to talk to a manager and I would run the back to stock tar but just because Knox is flipped. ... Just using it like a scare tactic.
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Maybe you should check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506287
Very politely with an elders patience. I understand all of that, lets just call it a hypothetical question. Are there any other custom options without tripping knox? And thank you for the concern and advice.
blackinjun said:
Very politely with an elders patience. I understand all of that, lets just call it a hypothetical question. Are there any other custom options without tripping knox? And thank you for the concern and advice.
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@mjcollum said if there was enough interest he would think about a knox safe version of his minin3 rom and an installer.
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nala_ said:
@mjcollum said if there was enough interest he would think about a knox safe version of his minin3 rom and an installer.
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Thanks
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Do these customs ROM have a major speed upgrade?

Just wondering apart from the mods etcc.. Is there a huge discrepancy in speed that you guys have noticed between stock or any of the custom ROMs? Not rooted, just wondering
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Also do you guys use the roms from the unified thread? Or holding out until or if something gets figure out with knox
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daxecutioner24 said:
Just wondering apart from the mods etcc.. Is there a huge discrepancy in speed that you guys have noticed between stock or any of the custom ROMs? Not rooted, just wondering
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Nope. It's just a misconception (not saying you..just overall) that rooting makes phones faster. It can, but not unless you really know what you're doing. That being said, if you do want a faster phone, a custom kernel is the way to go IMO. Yeah a custom rom can get rid of some bloat and unnecessary files, but I would stick with a close to stock rom, like Beans' stock rom, and flash a custom kernel like ktoonsez's kernel. You can find the rom HERE and the kernel HERE.
About the unified section, yes, you can use any rom from there as long as it's for the G900F and not the G900H (the exynos one). Also, not sure what you mean by "till everything get's figured out with knox". If you flash a custom rom or kernel, knox will trip and there's probably never going to be a way to stop that since t-mobile doesn't even care anyway.
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Nope. It's just a misconception (not saying you..just overall) that rooting makes phones faster. It can, but not unless you really know what you're doing. That being said, if you do want a faster phone, a custom kernel is the way to go IMO. Yeah a custom rom can get rid of some bloat and unnecessary files, but I would stick with a close to stock rom, like Beans' stock rom, and flash a custom kernel like ktoonsez's kernel. You can find the rom HERE and the kernel HERE.
About the unified section, yes, you can use any rom from there as long as it's for the G900F and not the G900H (the exynos one). Also, not sure what you mean by "till everything get's figured out with knox". If you flash a custom rom or kernel, knox will trip and there's probably never going to be a way to stop that since t-mobile doesn't even care anyway.
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Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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daxecutioner24 said:
Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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Knox will never get figured out, they've been trying for a while... Best thing is to just root and try them all, just read read read first.
daxecutioner24 said:
Thanks for the information. Yeah I'm well adept when it comes to rooting etcc.. I guess I wanted to know if the change from stock to custom is noticeable at the very least. Love ktoonz with the add on app. So Tmobile doesn't care? Any prove to that? Can they found out? that the warranty is voided. Thus the reason I included "till everything gets figured out with knox ". People in this forum are always worried about tripping knox hence the towel root breakthrough in which rooters swarmed.
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I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
aooga said:
I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
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Yea. They might not even know how to check lol or what do the numbers mean lol. Think I'm just going to flash away. Your everywhere aooga keep up the good work
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tonyevo52 said:
Knox will never get figured out, they've been trying for a while... Best thing is to just root and try them all, just read read read first.
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Yea knox is a lost cause probably efuse or something
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aooga said:
I've jumped twice now from the Note 3 and S4 both with knox tripped. They didn't bother to check anything at the store and I haven't gotten billed for anything, so I don't think they care. There are other users on here with the same experience.
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I agree .My buudy just took a s4 back that was pretty much bricked and knox was tripped and they didn't even check they gave him an s5 and counted all his payments from the s4 towards it . I guess they would rather get a knox tripped phone from ya rather than a phone with a cracked screen . I told my buddy if they don't take it then just run over it with your car and claim it on his handset protection . Also the sales people are not that know;edgable . Their soulution to fix any problem is a good old factory reset ..LOL

Knox Security

Hello guys! I just had a question about Samsung Knox Security. I have a Note 2 that's already modded and doesn't have Knox so this doesn't directly apply to me, but I will probably be getting the Note 4 soon enough. My question is, when you have a device with Knox on it, does it make rooting and installing ROMs and stuff any harder to do? I understand that tripping it is irreversible right now, but are there any other consequences to tripping Knox other than permanently voiding warranty? Thanks guy for all your help! :
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Hello guys! I just had a question about Samsung Knox Security. I have a Note 2 that's already modded and doesn't have Knox so this doesn't directly apply to me, but I will probably be getting the Note 4 soon enough. My question is, when you have a device with Knox on it, does it make rooting and installing ROMs and stuff any harder to do? I understand that tripping it is irreversible right now, but are there any other consequences to tripping Knox other than permanently voiding warranty? Thanks guy for all your help! :
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There aren't really any problems with removing Knox other than voiding your warranty. My s4 has had Knox removed from day one and I've had no problems.
I didn't have any problems with rooting either. However, it did remove those annoying security popups and allow me to change seandroid to permissive.
Is it actually possible to full on REMOVE Knox? And you're saying Knox doesn't make any complications with rooting other than it being triggered and voiding warranty? It's good to know these things as I'm gonna get the Note 4 soon enough and I literally CAN'T STAND Touchwiz!
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