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Hi. I heard that android going to release version 5.0 jellybean. Does anyone know when is the release date?
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Hi. I heard that android going to release version 5.0 jellybean. Does anyone know when is the release date?
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Since Feb Google execs have been saying most likely this fall or late Q4. I'm sure this Fall though and even this summer their might be leaked 4.1 roms spotted on devices. Jellybean will be 4.1 not 5.0 as the Nexus 7 got it. It definitely will be more of a software/driver update and performance tweaks with few new features but probably not a whole new UI that 4.0 brought us. It makes sense considering that's how it was since back on 2.1/2.2/2.3 versions of Android And not much has been leaked or given in regards as to what features it will bring. Only thing I can think of is the integration of Google chrome as the default browser in 4.1 that's it lol
Sorry for my mistake, I thought it was android 5.0. Can't wait for the leaks. Thanks for the reply phantomg93
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Sorry for my mistake, I thought it was android 5.0. Can't wait for the leaks. Thanks for the reply phantomg93
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No problem androidboy123 and I could be wrong about it not being 5.0. Everyone on the websites changed it from 5.0 to 4.1 because of the Nexus 7. I guess we will have to wait and see what # version Jellybean will be when it starts rolling out on phones
Jelly beam
Probably we will not recive it with OTA, maybie will get a Rom without sense
Jellybean
I would say that how the EVO 3D got screwed over, we probably won't see Jellybean on our phones. It has been suggested that manufacturers should charge for major ROM updates and I would be willing to do so (provided the cost was reasonable). Hell, I would have paid for ICS to get it 6 months sooner.
Naturally, Apple would say how their updates are free and flaunt that in front of everyone. :\
*Sigh*
well... the 3vo might get 4.1 ... but chances are by the time jelly bean hits the market we still wont have the 4.0.3 from sprint... but if they follow their normal pattern, chances of seeing it are good more than likely as a End Of Life update sometime next year, but none the less, chances are probably a lot higher that the wonderfull devs that are still with us will port it fairly soon after they get a chance to play with it a little, or that vm will probably update there 3vo sooner, and we may end up with another questionable leak, but I can say with almost abosolute certinty that well get it in due time, untill then we will have the marithon wait that we did for ics. :good:
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well... the 3vo might get 4.1 ... but chances are by the time jelly bean hits the market we still wont have the 4.0.3 from sprint... but if they follow their normal pattern, chances of seeing it are good more than likely as a End Of Life update sometime next year, but none the less, chances are probably a lot higher that the wonderfull devs that are still with us will port it fairly soon after they get a chance to play with it a little, or that vm will probably update there 3vo sooner, and we may end up with another questionable leak, but I can say with almost abosolute certinty that well get it in due time, untill then we will have the marithon wait that we did for ics. :good:
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3VO EOL was like a month ago bro. Sprint hates this phone.
All jelly bean discussion goes here for now on
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Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
sekigah84 said:
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
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Totally agree!
Markdental said:
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
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SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
rakeshchn said:
SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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We had gingerbread ROMs based off the SDK on the Incredible..
What about the PDK, thought I saw something about that being released on the I/O?
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SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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It does indeed help with rom development. Just not as easy.
I think it might help get it quicker too because the European version probably will get jelly bean quicker...
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
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The Galaxy Nexus does not have to rely on Samsung to push out updates though, and it is supposed to get updates first.
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
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PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
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PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
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It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
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Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
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There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this. If it was intended to be the most exciting update yet, it would've had a version number to reflect that. Just saying.
Having said that... I'm pretty excited too, but it'll likely take Sammy a little while to push an official update if you're like me and don't root right away.
I want to see Project Butter and the new notifications in action! :laugh:
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I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
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Kernels for a completely different SoC..?
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It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
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I doubt Samsung has had the Jellybean PDK for four months already. Jellybean probably hasn't been finalized for that long.
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My understanding was that google tried the early release this time around by giving it to the manufacturers two weeks before I/O. It is for the future releases that it was going to be 3-4 months.
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There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this.
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Depends. The VSync governor and CPU prespread is rather a quantum leap. Yes, it's not massively exceeding the introduction of the 2.2 Dalvik JIT but it's going to push Android along and, likely, past the Cupertino Competition.
Not to mention "Butter" was the coolest code name, yet. Chet (who's also doing the "For Butter or for Worse" session tomorrow, gave a good impromptu hallway intro to some of us, and it's exciting. VERY exciting.
I flashed the toro version of the Jelly Bean SDK port to my Nexus and holy hell its so smooth. Much smoother than my GSIII. I can't begin to think how smooth this device will be especially since the screen is much more sensitive and responsive than my Nexus. 4.1 is what 4.0 should have been. The Google Now feature provided INSTANT response with no lag. Its almost like talking to a person. Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
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Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
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Considering Samsung subscribes to the "want to upgrade your OS, upgrade the phone" philosophy, I am not sure we'll see JB on the S3 any time soon. I'd presume we'll see an AOSP Rom soon-ish, though, given the number of S3 owners at Google I/O that just stared and lusted...
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yay. my dream of all those threads being closed came true. lmao. I lost count of how many threads there were. But answer... It is very unlikely we'll get it through normal terms on our phones. I don't even know what the difference is to the new jelly bean anyway compared to 4.0. New phones will always get the new OS before a year old phone gets it. Simple as that. Most companies don't support their products after 6 months anyway. *which is really sad*
Anyway, Sure I hope we get the best since I still believe our phone is the best on the market. Having LTE phone isn't a buying factor. there won't be a LTE network for sprint for another year or so. But anyway, GO JELLY BEANS. btw for everyone. You're all my new favorite friends. You rock.
Jelly Bean will have Google Now. I want this.
http://youtu.be/pPqliPzHYyc
I have the evo v, which thankfully they put ICS on..perhaps WE will get jellybean at some point or another. :good:
Jelly Bean?
if not officially Jelly Bean to have from those who strive and make us new beautiful life
PDK
Anyone think this new platform development kit will speed things up or is it more fluff to quiet the masses?
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Anyone think this new platform development kit will speed things up or is it more fluff to quiet the masses?
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I think it will help alot of would be app developers develop apps
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Hi,
i think YES...maybe NO...
HTC DesireHD,HTC DesireS, ETC.. platform getting ICS soon...but HTC Flyer didn't getting it...
so i hope in the future i have JB with HTC Sense...
coolexe said:
Hi,
i think YES...maybe NO...
HTC DesireHD,HTC DesireS, ETC.. platform getting ICS soon...but HTC Flyer didn't getting it...
so i hope in the future i have JB with HTC Sense...
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Lol thanks for that insightful post
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I'm really just hoping that Sprint EVO 3D owners get an official ICS OTA and that HTC gets around to releasing the source soon. I don't expect HTC to bring Jelly Bean to the EVO 3D, but if we get the new kernel source, we can just do it ourselves.
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Anyone think this new platform development kit will speed things up or is it more fluff to quiet the masses?
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I think so, and I really hope so. The two factors that slow down updates for devices are custom tweaks (Sense, TouchWiz, etc.) and drivers (like for our 3D camera and autostereoscopic screen). If Google's moves can help speed up the process and minimize the work that needs to go into updates, such as 4.1 being on the same kernel (or at least one with very minor changes), hopefully that will encourage and enable manufacturers to bring the upgrades to more devices sooner. If the Android ecosystem can ever reach a point where new OS versions only take a couple of months at most to reach supported devices, it would be a dream come true.
JB Doesn't Support Flash
Don't get too excited about JB just yet as it Flash won't work on it (see link below).
http://mashable.com/2012/06/29/flash-in-android-4-1/
Maybe so devs can add the notifications update to ICS? I'd be happy with just that.
kcsween said:
Don't get too excited about JB just yet as it Flash won't work on it (see link below).
http://mashable.com/2012/06/29/flash-in-android-4-1/
Maybe so devs can add the notifications update to ICS? I'd be happy with just that.
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Eh, for me at least, I'm not too concerned about Flash. It's a dying breed as it is, with HTML 5 replacing it at a decent rate. I'd rather have the OS enhancements of Jelly Bean than Flash. But, that's just me, and I get the impression that you use Flash sites more often than I do.
I would expect some devs to port components of Jelly Bean to ICS, such as the notifications. It wouldn't have the Buttery goodness of JB, though.
Ahhh....
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Eh, for me at least, I'm not too concerned about Flash. It's a dying breed as it is, with HTML 5 replacing it at a decent rate. I'd rather have the OS enhancements of Jelly Bean than Flash. But, that's just me, and I get the impression that you use Flash sites more often than I do.
I would expect some devs to port components of Jelly Bean to ICS, such as the notifications. It wouldn't have the Buttery goodness of JB, though.
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Ok, so I do see your point and you are correct, I am on my browser all the time and love the flash component. It was originally a major factor for me choosing Droid over iOS in the first place but certainly not a deal breaker by any means. I do know that HTML5 is the next big thing though. I'll take my buttery goodness in the form of ICS w/ JB notifications update please!...lol.
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Ok, so I do see your point and you are correct, I am on my browser all the time and love the flash component. It was originally a major factor for me choosing Droid over iOS in the first place but certainly not a deal breaker by any means. I do know that HTML5 is the next big thing though. I'll take my buttery goodness in the form of ICS w/ JB notifications update please!...lol.
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^^^ (for watching mobile porn) LOL
Yes it would be nice to get OS updates within a month rather than a year. Thankfully we have devs to tide us over until that becomes a possibility. LOL on the mobile porn insight
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Lol thanks for that insightful post
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always ur welcome..lol:laugh:
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^^^ (for watching mobile porn) LOL
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Buh-Zing!
JB
Hey guys.
I consider being able to handle/see flash a requisite of seeing the real web but at the same time, I dislike it. Can't wait till it is dead.
I'm guessing we won't see any "official" JB so not to nag but what is a typical time course [predicted?] for when we may see unofficial JB roms for CDMA Evo 3D, if ever? I'm just wondering order of magnitude type thing: 1 month, 6 months, 1 year, 2 year...?
Couldn't we just use dolphin or ics browser+ for flash sites? I think chrome is the only browser that is not supporting flash... (not positive though)
I see Scott posted his Hyperdrive ROM over on the HTC Verizon One Development thread. Wondering if that could easily be ported to the DNA using the porting tool found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196491and a 4.2.2 Sense 5 base Rom like newts?
I loved Hyperdrive ROM on my SGS3 and would love to try to get it to the DNA
I'm sure it could but usually the developer owns the device they develop for or else users have to do all the testing which can get tricky. We have 4.3 out pretty stable and 4.2.2 sense 5 basically stable as well. We will get the 4.3 sense 5 update soon and our devs will trick it out so you've got options but we are lucky that we will have some good development projects well into next year.
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I'm sure it could but usually the developer owns the device they develop for or else users have to do all the testing which can get tricky. We have 4.3 out pretty stable and 4.2.2 sense 5 basically stable as well. We will get the 4.3 sense 5 update soon and our devs will trick it out so you've got options but we are lucky that we will have some good development projects well into next year.
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Oh yeah I completely agree. Development for this phone continues to improve and it's great. Many options. I was just simply wondering if that would work.
As long as the base/port roms are the same base (aosp/aosp, sense/sense) it should work more or less right?
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Oh yeah I completely agree. Development for this phone continues to improve and it's great. Many options. I was just simply wondering if that would work.
As long as the base/port roms are the same base (aosp/aosp, sense/sense) it should work more or less right?
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Should, yes. Its just different hardware basically albeit very similar to the ONE.
Hello. Prompt, please, can I port android 4.4 (in this case CyanogenMod 11) in this manual ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/guide-cm11-how-to-build-cyanogenmod-11-t2515305 )? Is it even possible to port it, at least 4.0. Sorry for my bad English.
Can anyone try it?
No drivers. It is completely infeasible. Stop asking.
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This device would be amazing with kitkat on it.
I wish.
The HP touchpad just got CM11 and it uses the same snapdragon s3 APQ8060 as the jetstream. Maybe its possible to port that?
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i'll tell show_p.
the problem is the HTC drivers, which cannot be ported from any other device. maybe there's something in the HP.
killahrey said:
The HP touchpad just got CM11 and it uses the same snapdragon s3 APQ8060 as the jetstream. Maybe its possible to port that?
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As silly as it may sound. I literally now have no use for my jetstream as I am fully fed up of the OS it has. I have it rooted and CWM 6.0 installed on it and flashed BMW Boy rom on it. At this point, I am willing to work with developers to come up with a custom rom for it. I will be more than happy to test it on my device if they need me to. Plus, I can provide any information needed about this device. I am getting into developing, so perhaps Jetstream could be used as an ultimate sacrifice lol.
Just rooted SGH-I317M (NOTE II-Rogers) and installed CM 11 Nightly on it. I refuse to go back to stock. Im loving my phone so much more.:good:
can we?
Is it possible to build the drivers from scratch? Even if it is not for free we can all pitch in and pay a developer. Hopefully HTC can help despite our many failed efforts. I am willing to pay to get this device up to date, it feels to wrong to let something so full of potential go to waste. Even today it still looks better than most tablets available. I love my jetstream !
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Is it possible to build the drivers from scratch?
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Go to www.codeaurora.org and find the Android for MSM project. I tried to backport some of the code from that project into Hive kernel.
finniest said:
Go to www.codeaurora.org and find the Android for MSM project. I tried to backport some of the code from that project into Hive kernel.
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Will do! Just talked to an HTC rep. She apologized for the lack of support and sent a ticket of the conversation to HTC in hopes of assistance. She is even going to try to talk to her higher ups and hope that they are generous! My hopes are not that high but i was really glad to talk to someone who was concerned with the matter. She could not even believe what i was telling her ( she never used honeycomb so i am guessing she was surprised with what we have to go through.) I hope 2014 will be different for the Jetstream. O and i never thanked you for your hard work so ill take the time now. Thank you for your assistance, it means a lot to me and the other people with the jetstream here at xda! Great work and an awesome rom!
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