[Q] Why does everyone care about the "custom" screen so much? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Seriously. I'm genuinely curious. I've seen people flash stock odin restore tars and give up their Loki'd bootloaders just to get rid of the custom boot screen. Its not like its going to give you an STD or anything, so what's the reason?
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Custom screen = warranty void.

I was told all I had to worry about was my Knox status as far as warranty.
I went from ME7 to Mj7 and kept root.
My Knox is still at 0x0 and In about phone it still shows custom, and I'll still get the custom splash screen as well.
Wish I'd have picked up my S4 when they're were shipping with MDK
what's your take on my S4's warranty now? Just curious.
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Mistertac said:
I was told all I had to worry about was my Knox status as far as warranty.
I went from ME7 to Mj7 and kept root.
My Knox is still at 0x0 and In about phone it still shows custom, and I'll still get the custom splash screen as well.
Wish I'd have picked up my S4 when they're were shipping with MDK
what's your take on my S4's warranty now? Just curious.
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My answer would probably lie in a grey area as far as warranty status goes. But as for the "custom" screen? That doesn't mean your warranty is voided at all. Even if you're not rooted or running a custom rom with mods theres still the possbility that you'd get the "custom" screen after an ota or if any hardware was malfunctioning or if your battery died during while a system app was updating. Plus you can always get rid of the custom screen with relative ease if you had to give it back for warranty purposes. Just flash a full-wipe odin image along with the pit file and if you really want to go overkill then factory data reset while you're at it. Plus, having a "custom" screen is probably not the most significant thing they'd be looking to void your warranty for if you're already running a custom rom with root and recovery...just saying

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My answer would probably lie in a grey area as far as warranty status goes. But as for the "custom" screen? That doesn't mean your warranty is voided at all. Even if you're not rooted or running a custom rom with mods theres still the possbility that you'd get the "custom" screen after an ota or if any hardware was malfunctioning or if your battery died during while a system app was updating. Plus you can always get rid of the custom screen with relative ease if you had to give it back for warranty purposes. Just flash a full-wipe odin image along with the pit file and if you really want to go overkill then factory data reset while you're at it. Plus, having a "custom" screen is probably not the most significant thing they'd be looking to void your warranty for if you're already running a custom rom with root and recovery...just saying
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Well that's also the impression I was under. Myself.. I'm not terribly worried about all that either, I just try and learn as many things as I can on here and ask what some may consider silly questions but usually I'm just trying to learn. I have seen quite a few posts regarding the custom screen though too.
For me since I've messed with my S4 in the first place I have to accept whatever it may cause me in warranty!
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I sent two root romed s3's back to asurion with broke screens an paid my 100.00 and got my new phone in box no ? Asked I figured if there smart enough to replace the screen they can Odin or just plug in and flash in download. This is diff then a free factory defect replacement,/refurbished junk the u deal with in store
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I too don't understand it; I myself its not a big deal. If I have to send my phone back I'll worry about it then until then; it adds character lol!!
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No big deal for me either. I customize everything - cars, trucks, jeeps, motorcycles, guns, etc - so I LIKE that it says "Custom" when I reboot

skny said:
No big deal for me either. I customize everything - cars, trucks, jeeps, motorcycles, guns, etc - so I LIKE that it says "Custom" when I reboot
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Me too. I like seeing that screen when it boots :laugh:
Like, yep, you got that right.

Surge1223 said:
Seriously. I'm genuinely curious. I've seen people flash stock odin restore tars and give up their Loki'd bootloaders just to get rid of the custom boot screen. Its not like its going to give you an STD or anything, so what's the reason?
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Same reason they're freaking over the Knox status, and using a Chinese root program................ paranoid because of what they read on the internet.

Surge1223 said:
Seriously. I'm genuinely curious. I've seen people flash stock odin restore tars and give up their Loki'd bootloaders just to get rid of the custom boot screen. Its not like its going to give you an STD or anything, so what's the reason?
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I have to agree. I've told people multiple times to not worry about it - if you have a phone that's working well enough to give you that indication, you can always flash a clean factory ROM and clear the flag. Don't worry about it until it's time to return it on warranty, if even that.
Worrying about this is a waste of brain cycles.

I dont understand it one bit either. Hey I want my phone to be customized with root custom recovery and a custom rom. But oh boy it better not show a custom status when it boots. That just cant happen. Makes me rofl everytime I see someone post about it.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.

I've had an older recovery for a while now. I accidentally flashed a non-loki recovery, was able to get back to my phone desktop and flashed TWRP. Now I get the custom screen. Not a big deal, but is it because I flashed the non-loki one? I am on MDK.

edif30 said:
I've had an older recovery for a while now. I accidentally flashed a non-loki recovery, was able to get back to my phone desktop and flashed TWRP. Now I get the custom screen. Not a big deal, but is it because I flashed the non-loki one? I am on MDK.
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I assume that anytime you have a custom recovery loaded, you will get the "custom" boot screen - not sure why you didn't have it before......

tkacer said:
I assume that anytime you have a custom recovery loaded, you will get the "custom" boot screen
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I've had a custom recovery for over a year and never had this. I just did some reading and seems there is no real reason for when or how it changes. Everyone has randomness. Not a big deal. Was just curious. Phone works same way. I could care less about the boot screen. Was just concerned at first and thought I bricked the device.

weird - had mine from the first day I flashed a new recovery.

I like the custom screen because it lets me know that I'm doing things right and everything. Lol I care about the warranty but root is more important to me.
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[Q] - Does rooting permavoid your warranty?

Haven't found this. Is rooting this device reversible in such a way as ATT cannot tell you ever rooted it and warranty/insurance would cover it if something comes up with the phone?
Rooting is reversible. You can use Odin and return the phone back to stock.
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orangekid said:
Haven't found this. Is rooting this device reversible in such a way as ATT cannot tell you ever rooted it and warranty/insurance would cover it if something comes up with the phone?
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I tripped the flash counter on my ATT SGS2 and it even had the big triangle with exclamation point come up on boot after the counter was triggered. I had a problem with calls dropping and they could not determine the cause and I was able to swap it out for a new one in store even with a custom rom and the counter tripped. The guy at the ATT store didnt even pay attention when it booted up with the big triangle on the screen. I don't know if this guy just missed this or if ATT just doesnt care all together.
I think if you are really worried about your warranty then I would wait until a solution comes around to either reset the counter or root without tripping it in the first place just to be safe. Because when I got my replacement SGS2 they had already come up with another method that did not trip the flash counter.
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Rooting is reversible. You can use Odin and return the phone back to stock.
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I know that much, but can they tell you ever flashed Odin in the first place?
Unfortunately atm rooting will trigger your flash counter and there is no way of resetting it, if im not mistaken.
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Rooting is reversible. You can use Odin and return the phone back to stock.
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This is true but the flash counter will not be reset.
Romee74 said:
I tripped the flash counter on my ATT SGS2 and it even had the big triangle with exclamation point come up on boot after the counter was triggered. I had a problem with calls dropping and they could not determine the cause and I was able to swap it out for a new one in store even with a custom rom and the counter tripped. The guy at the ATT store didnt even pay attention when it booted up with the big triangle on the screen. I don't know if this guy just missed this or if ATT just doesnt care all together.
I think if you are really worried about your warranty then I would wait until a solution comes around to either reset the counter or root without tripping it in the first place just to be safe. Because when I got my replacement SGS2 they had already come up with another method that did not trip the flash counter.
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that's what I was looking for. Thanks!
Picking up this bad boy today. I wanted to root it first thing for no ads and to use mybackuproot to restore all my apps from my old HD2, but I guess I'll wait. If I get a bad screen or something I don't want them to say "well you tripped the flash counter, so we can't do **** for you"
if its a hardware problem they still have to replace it weather you rooted it or not. bad hardware is bad hardware. i have had people atleast on sprint return devices that had custom roms for what ever reason and as long as its a true hardware issue it would play no difference on the return
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if its a hardware problem they still have to replace it weather you rooted it or not. bad hardware is bad hardware. i have had people atleast on sprint return devices that had custom roms for what ever reason and as long as its a true hardware issue it would play no difference on the return
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are you sure about that, I thought rooting violates all warranty claims.
depends on how you root. rooting a phone wont do much of anything. messing with your kernel will. kernel is what gets you in trouble most of the time.
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depends on how you root. rooting a phone wont do much of anything. messing with your kernel will. kernel is what gets you in trouble most of the time.
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I mean the carrier can say "no" to everything even if obviously the root didn't cause the problem because technically rooting voids the warranty. I've known Sprint to do this.
I'm not talking about what they "should" do or if rooting does anything bad, I'm talking about what ATT ACTUALLY does in these cases.
Buy a USB download jig. It resets your flash counter back to 0.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNBrick-Samsung-Galaxy-S2-i9100-Download-Mode-USB-Jig-/270805686806
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well if you root without changing your counter. just delete the su app using command line and your good none the wiser on there part.
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Buy a USB download jig. It resets your flash counter back to 0.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNBrick-Samsung-Galaxy-S2-i9100-Download-Mode-USB-Jig-/270805686806
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Read the forums. People have already tested and said multiple times that the jigs don't work on the Note due to a new bootloader.
I'm just curious as I'm new to this.
Not being a negative thinker here, but is there a chance that there will NEVER be a method that will reset the counters back to 0? Jig or what other methods can be used?
I love the Note and I was really excited on all this rooting stuff until I found out about this one. I have bad luck with gadgets as they fail on me most of the time even before the contract is up. It would be a pain that if it happens, Samsung will deny me the warranty because of that after paying $299.
Or could this "New Bootloader" be the new "Locked bootloader" (Like the Atrix when it was lauched?)
Thanks
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well if you root without changing your counter. just delete the su app using command line and your good none the wiser on there part.
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but that's not possible is it?
keplenk said:
I'm just curious as I'm new to this.
Not being a negative thinker here, but is there a chance that there will NEVER be a method that will reset the counters back to 0? Jig or what other methods can be used?
I love the Note and I was really excited on all this rooting stuff until I found out about this one. I have bad luck with gadgets as they fail on me most of the time even before the contract is up. It would be a pain that if it happens, Samsung will deny me the warranty because of that after paying $299.
Or could this "New Bootloader" be the new "Locked bootloader" (Like the Atrix when it was lauched?)
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It's not a locked bootloader because it's already been rooted. But it is a new bootloader that apparently really wants to count flashes.
maxh said:
Read the forums. People have already tested and said multiple times that the jigs don't work on the Note due to a new bootloader.
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Yes I have read the forums.
It does work on the new bootloader (been tested and done on 2.3.6). For reference see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354888
However on the AT&T version it has not been tested yet. Only on the Int'l version. I would wait for confirmation to see if and when the AT&T version has been tested.
Another way to do it, once ICS 4.0 comes on this phone, is to use Chainfire's app called TriangleAway (have to be rooted) and you can reset the counter back to 0 as well. Someone did it on their Int'l Note by flashing the ICS 4.0 leak and then using TriangleAway. Then using Odin to put on another ROM.8
So basically the questions are
1) can you flash something which does not trip the counter which can be fully restored to stock that roots your phone?
2) Is there a way to bring the trip counter back to zero?
adelmundo said:
Yes I have read the forums.
It does work on the new bootloader (been tested and done on 2.3.6). For reference see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354888
However on the AT&T version it has not been tested yet. Only on the Int'l version. I would wait for confirmation to see if and when the AT&T version has been tested.
Another way to do it, once ICS 4.0 comes on this phone, is to use Chainfire's app called TriangleAway (have to be rooted) and you can reset the counter back to 0 as well. Someone did it on their Int'l Note by flashing the ICS 4.0 leak and then using TriangleAway. Then using Odin to put on another ROM.8
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International bootloader =/= AT&T Bootloader. The different SoC's and build dates along with other factors mean that we can't use the jig method right now. There is no downgrade bootloader for use to use, even. We're stuck.

Return phone for warranty work.

So I am thinking about exchanging my phone (would have to do it through samsung, because the place i bought it the time limit expired) because the pictures are horrible, I really think there is something wrong with the phone.
My question is, I am rooted, and have flashed a few roms. Can I just odin back to stock? Or is there some kind of flash counter that needs to be reset?
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Yes you can just flash back to stock but as far as resetting the counter ...I don't think there's a way yet.
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d_bot said:
So I am thinking about exchanging my phone (would have to do it through samsung, because the place i bought it the time limit expired) because the pictures are horrible, I really think there is something wrong with the phone.
My question is, I am rooted, and have flashed a few roms. Can I just odin back to stock? Or is there some kind of flash counter that needs to be reset?
Thanks
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This is the guide I used. It has all the files you need. http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-unroot/how-to-unroot-t-mobile-galaxy-s3-sgh-t999/
Depending on the method you used to root, your counter will most likely be non-Zero. Since triangle reset does not yet support the T999, your out of luck. If you bought the phone in a non Tmobile store, they normally don't check the boot loader. So your best bet is to restore stock, then do a factory reset and leave the phone on for the return, so they don't think you have messed with it. I returned mine for an exchange to a Walmart and they didn't check the boot loader. YMMV.
sfsilicon said:
This is the guide I used. It has all the files you need. http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-unroot/how-to-unroot-t-mobile-galaxy-s3-sgh-t999/
Depending on the method you used to root, your counter will most likely be non-Zero. Since triangle reset does not yet support the T999, your out of luck. If you bought the phone in a non Tmobile store, they normally don't check the boot loader. So your best bet is to restore stock, then do a factory reset and leave the phone on for the return, so they don't think you have messed with it. I returned mine for an exchange to a Walmart and they didn't check the boot loader. YMMV.
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yeah I bought mine at walmart, but it is past the 15 days dont know what to do now.....
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Don't worry about the counter thing... I have returned 2 android phones that were heavily modded and nothing ever happened. I did a warranty exchange with my T- mobile SGS2 about 6 months ago. I just made sure to flash it back to stock and get rid of any evidence that would make someone think I modded. Do you really think that Samsung checks every phone they get back for warranty replacement? Do you have any idea how many phones they get returned? I don't know, but I'm sure it's a butt-load! Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. FYI. This has been my experience. I cannot guarantee the same for others.
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dave2metz said:
Don't worry about the counter thing... I have returned 2 android phones that were heavily modded and nothing ever happened. I did a warranty exchange with my T- mobile SGS2 about 6 months ago. I just made sure to flash it back to stock and get rid of any evidence that would make someone think I modded. Do you really think that Samsung checks every phone they get back for warranty replacement? Do you have any idea how many phones they get returned? I don't know, but I'm sure it's a butt-load! Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. FYI. This has been my experience. I cannot guarantee the same for others.
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Thanks.
Also, for future readers, the Counter Flasher Reset (Triangle Away) now supports US versions.
Go to the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114

[Q] Will Verizon know I rooted?

My S4 suddenly stopped charging the other day, and my immediate response was to unroot and take it to Verizon to see what is up. I never installed a custom rom, but had TWRP recovery installed. I used the No Wipe Stock unrooted image in Odin to put my phone back and Verizon had me to a factory reset. Apparently that is necessary before doing a warranty claim. Now, the guy at the store said that if it was previously rooted, or currently rooted they would reject it and I would be on the hook for several hundred dollars. Is there anyway they can tell that I did root it before?
Will they know you rooted? Not necessarily. However, I'd be surprised if the S4 didn't have a flash counter. Assuming it does, they'd know (at minimum) that *something* was flashed to your phone and how many times something was flashed.
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My S4 suddenly stopped charging the other day, and my immediate response was to unroot and take it to Verizon to see what is up. I never installed a custom rom, but had TWRP recovery installed. I used the No Wipe Stock unrooted image in Odin to put my phone back and Verizon had me to a factory reset. Apparently that is necessary before doing a warranty claim. Now, the guy at the store said that if it was previously rooted, or currently rooted they would reject it and I would be on the hook for several hundred dollars. Is there anyway they can tell that I did root it before?
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When you boot it up the first screen that comes on....does it say custom?
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hogowner said:
When you boot it up the first screen that comes on....does it say custom?
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Nope, doesnt say custom. And the device status says official. I am pretty skeptical they will see anything, and the only things I flashed through ODIN were the MD2 and MDK kernels. I just want to make sure I have all my bases covered.
I think you'll be okay. Most likely what they'll do is turn it on to see whether or not it says custom, plug it in to see if it charges or not, ten hand you a brand new device,
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I think you'll be okay. Most likely what they'll do is turn it on to see whether or not it says custom, plug it in to see if it charges or not, ten hand you a brand new device,
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Well I already got the replacement device in the mail today. Now I have to send my defective one off. Its there where they will check on the phone.
I returned my phone to best buy after rooting and flashing multiple roms to it and got a new one within first fourteen days and they never knew that I had unrooted it. I know that's different circumstances but just letting you know my experience
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They may come repo your phone..better hide it.
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Best buy doesn't care.
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brownbeardthepirate said:
Well I already got the replacement device in the mail today. Now I have to send my defective one off. Its there where they will check on the phone.
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I mailed back devices rooted and rommed and never had an issue. I don't even think they check.
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I recovered my Note2. Do I accept the replacement Verizon is sending?

Hi folks.
I softbricked my note2. I recovered it from the dreaded yellow triangle of death.
But, not before I stopped in at my local Verizon store. The are sending me a re-conditioned Note2.
I was told that if V determines I had 'Unauthorized Software' on the returned device, V would charge me the full out of contract purchase price.
I haven't looked yet but I am sure my flash counter is 1 or 2 and that it will show a custom kernel. Oh, and the device is indeed working.
My note2 is fine. It's rooted with Casual. Only one small booboo top left corner. TWRP is installed. Full system backup in tact. Opened bootloader. Frozen SDM-1 w Titanium Backup. Flawless screen.
I want to see what baseband the one they send me is so I can determine if it's rootable.
But then, mine is working fine so my gut tells me leave the new one alone, send it back and stay with mine.
What would you do?
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ciniob said:
Hi folks.
I softbricked my note2. I recovered it from the dreaded yellow triangle of death.
But, not before I stopped in at my local Verizon store. The are sending me a re-conditioned Note2.
I was told that if V determines I had 'Unauthorized Software' on the returned device, V would charge me the full out of contract purchase price.
I haven't looked yet but I am sure my flash counter is 1 or 2 and that it will show a custom kernel. Oh, and the device is indeed working.
My note2 is fine. It's rooted with Casual. Only one small booboo top left corner. TWRP is installed. Full system backup in tact. Opened bootloader. Frozen SDM-1 w Titanium Backup. Flawless screen.
I want to see what baseband the one they send me is so I can determine if it's rootable.
But then, mine is working fine so my gut tells me leave the new one alone, send it back and stay with mine.
What would you do?
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You could start the bootloader unlock process over again and unplug while it's running. That will crash the bootloader bricking the phone. But since the phone is damaged, you may get charged anyway. Seems like it's a judgement call and what you have on your insurance.
ciniob said:
Hi folks.
I softbricked my note2. I recovered it from the dreaded yellow triangle of death.
But, not before I stopped in at my local Verizon store. The are sending me a re-conditioned Note2.
I was told that if V determines I had 'Unauthorized Software' on the returned device, V would charge me the full out of contract purchase price.
I haven't looked yet but I am sure my flash counter is 1 or 2 and that it will show a custom kernel. Oh, and the device is indeed working.
My note2 is fine. It's rooted with Casual. Only one small booboo top left corner. TWRP is installed. Full system backup in tact. Opened bootloader. Frozen SDM-1 w Titanium Backup. Flawless screen.
I want to see what baseband the one they send me is so I can determine if it's rootable.
But then, mine is working fine so my gut tells me leave the new one alone, send it back and stay with mine.
What would you do?
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If the screens good then keep your phone.
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Keep your phone. It works. Don't risk it.
Just send the reconditioned phone back to them.
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Keep it...reconditioned phones are usually junk. Also please revert to these forums before ordering a replacement. 90% of the time the device is not bricked. The yellow triangle means you didnt follow directions before flashing...Step your game up and start reading the stickies. Read twice Flash once!
droidstyle said:
Keep it...reconditioned phones are usually junk. Also please revert to these forums before ordering a replacement. 90% of the time the device is not bricked. The yellow triangle means you didnt follow directions before flashing...Step your game up and start reading the stickies. Read twice Flash once!
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I'm with @droidstyle here. i infact did brick my previous n2, not soft bricked but bricked, paperweight, bricked. so i went the vzw way and got a "like new" one. needless to say im not new to flashing, but first phone i bricked. so in this tl;dr paragraph, I'm reiterating what droid said above, read twice, flash once. pretty much if you send the one you softbricked back, you'll get charged the full amount, if you send the one they sent you back, no harm, no foul. keep the old one!
This brings up a lingering question I have had for a while.
If Ciniob did decide to keep the new phone, for whatever reason, couldn't he reset his flash counter with Triangle Away and then Odin the stock VRAMC3 ? Wouldn't that cover his tracks and make the old phone just like new? Wouldn't this procedure prevent VZW from knowing it was ever flashed in the first place?
I would appreciate it if someone would clear this up.
Thanks
droidstyle said:
Keep it...reconditioned phones are usually junk. Also please revert to these forums before ordering a replacement. 90% of the time the device is not bricked. The yellow triangle means you didnt follow directions before flashing...Step your game up and start reading the stickies. Read twice Flash once!
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Thank you for the advice about read 2x. For the record, I searched hi and low for a solution. And, just as u said, the solution was here. Thank G those who know far more than I post solutions. Because of this, I was able to un-softbrick my Note.
I was struggling to get i605vramc3 to be noticed by Odin. I posted this in another conversation in this forum. Unable to find the answer, I chose to visit Verizon.
None of the V store people had a clue about what to do other then order a repacement.
I pulled an all nighter brainstorming what to do an finally figured out how to get Odin to see the file.
How do u explain to the wife you just turned a beautifully working Note into road kill? Hence the all nighter.
I will keep the Note that i've had all along. I know I run the risk of bricking it when I mod it. (I may have bricked my BBQ10 trying to load andriod apk's). As I thought about it, it became clear that it was my fault that I soft bricked it. I believe now it would be wrong to hold V responsible. So per the advice of forum members, I will keep my note and return the refirb to V.
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droidstyle said:
Keep it...reconditioned phones are usually junk. Also please revert to these forums before ordering a replacement. 90% of the time the device is not bricked. The yellow triangle means you didnt follow directions before flashing...Step your game up and start reading the stickies. Read twice Flash once!
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Ok, what happened is that I loaded Goo Manager. Then I loaded TWRP. The TeamWin splash screen appeared briefly then the phone went to the triagle.
When I loaded vramc3 that I got from sammobile (downloaded onto the windows7 pc) I was able to recover, and create a back up on Twrp.
Was my bootloader locked earlier? I know the flash counter said 1 and the binary showed 'custom' the first go round.
As long as I don't plug my note in usb, can I put it in Odin mode to see what my flash counter say's now and if my binary displays 'custom'?
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Rootabaga said:
This brings up a lingering question I have had for a while.
If Ciniob did decide to keep the new phone, for whatever reason, couldn't he reset his flash counter with Triangle Away and then Odin the stock VRAMC3 ? Wouldn't that cover his tracks and make the old phone just like new? Wouldn't this procedure prevent VZW from knowing it was ever flashed in the first place?
I would appreciate it if someone would clear this up.
Thanks
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I did that. Flash the alternate restore because you have updates and such. Then let it update, then removed root and then fdr to remove the modified flag.
TonikJDK said:
I did that. Flash the alternate restore because you have updates and such. Then let it update, then removed root and then fdr to remove the modified flag.
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Thanks for your reply.
When you say, "alternate restore" do you mean to flash back to 4.1.1 and then take the OTA to 4.1.2?
I wasn't aware that a factory data reset would clear the flash counter. Does that really work? Nice.
Just curious, did you root/unlock using Casual/No You Verizon?
Thanks again.
TonikJDK said:
I did that. Flash the alternate restore because you have updates and such. Then let it update, then removed root and then fdr to remove the modified flag.
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FDR?
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Craleb said:
FDR?
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Factory Data Reset. You get rid of the flash counter with triangle away, flash the alternate restore which leaves you rooted. That shows up in the menu as 'modified'. After you unroot you have to do an FDR to clear that.

[Q] Samsung Mega sgh -i527 Intermittent touch issues

Hey Guys/Gals!
I (stupidly) jumped into rooting too quickly. It's a great option for really getting the true potential out of your android IMO, but I (having no knowledge of the possible issues of rooting) really messed me up here.
I have a Samsung Mega SGH - I527 and I have no clue what version of android it was originally running.
Basically, one day I was on base with my cell phone in my pocket, and this was about a week after i rooted with a program I believe was called "kingo". I went to pull it out of my pocket, and the screen was not responding to touch. I wasn't doing anything unusual and there aren't any signs of damage of any physical kind. I freaked out on the spot, and realized it must have been the root.
I rebooted the phone, and touch came back. I rejoiced, then freaked out as about 15 - 30 seconds later, the touch went bad again.
It then stayed not working until I rebooted again, and again, and again, until I managed to get to the Factory Reset settings in that little tiny window of time.(a small note while on this subject: not every reboot got me that little bit of time to use the touch, and the amount of time i had to use the touch screen was never consistent from what i could tell.)
From here on out, just troubleshooting steps already tried:
- factory reset on phone in phones UI (did not fix)
- factory reset on phone with bootloader menu (did not fix)
- using Odin 3.07 to put supposed stock firmwareback on the device (did not fix)
- took apart phone to make sure digitizer/lcd cable was seated properly on the motherboard (did not fix)
Any Ideas? just trying to do something that makes this thing NOT a $500 shiny paperweight :'(
feel free to email me @ [email protected] if you have any further questions or info that could help out here!
PS: sorry if this is a repost, I didn't find anything related to this specific topic in forum
I would say your problem is with the hardware and not software. Now what the problem is and how to fix it, I haven't a clue. I would suggest that you contact Samsung.
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dparrothead1 said:
I would say your problem is with the hardware and not software. Now what the problem is and how to fix it, I haven't a clue. I would suggest that you contact Samsung.
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The only thing is, the phone is /really/ new.. i never abused it, and I'm thinking that its a software issue. I know its possible i broke/failed the hardware, but i really think its the case that the root i did messed it up. Do you know if there are any other more power ful ways to restore the chipset back to originality than using odin to load it back?
Have you unrooted?
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Yes. Is there a better rooting program than Kingo that I could possibly try?
mikemou said:
Yes. Is there a better rooting program than Kingo that I could possibly try?
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If you have unrooted and its within a year, get a warranty replacement.
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Roger, But they can ultimately tell bc even though I unrooted, the device still says "Custom" when you first boot it up. Is that a Problem? Should I just push Factory firmware back to the device with Odin before I contact them?
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Roger, But they can ultimately tell bc even though I unrooted, the device still says "Custom" when you first boot it up. Is that a Problem? Should I just push Factory firmware back to the device with Odin before I contact them?
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I had rooted and unrooted several times thinking maybe root was the cause. Unrooted, saved everything on Kies, hardcore factory reset and sent that bad boy back when I got my new. Not a word from them.
My Mega never touched Odin
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hardcore factory reset, you say?
Maybe you're just referring to opening the boot loader and clearing the cache and doing a FR, but just to make sure... What exactly did you do?
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hardcore factory reset, you say?
Maybe you're just referring to opening the boot loader and clearing the cache and doing a FR, but just to make sure... What exactly did you do?
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Ha ha...I think if I could open the bootloader, I would be a GOD. Back up everything to Kies, then go into the 3e rcovery......factory reset
Sorry for delay. Working 2 jobs keeps me working a lot
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Roger that, so does this make me god? :laugh: jk jk but I'll try it out. I'm going to give this whole replacement a whirl :3
Hi im new to the android rooting realm ive had many a jailbroke iphones but new to this. So I bought my mega off Craigslist guy said it had been rooted but did full factory reset apparently that doesnt take root off anyway its still rooted but all the stuff that was said to be musts to use the root access says its not compatible, such as rom manager, titanium back up and HC-ktools. So is there a way to maje it compatible or specific program for the sgh-I527? Please help. Thank yiu for your time

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