This is, at least in my experience, the oddest crap for a phone to do.
Im working, phone is next to me on the charger. I receive and reply to a text, than a few minutes later press the top button on my mophie case to power the screen on to check the time, and it doesn't respond. At all, ever again.
I had been rooted and running CM for a solid few months without major issue. I had not made any changes, major or minor, to the phone in the previous several days.
At one point I plugged it into my computer. and got a message asking for QSUSB_Dload. (or something simiar). I tracked this down, downloaded and installed, with no change.
Im sending it back to HTC. In my reading I have come across posts from several people who had send unlocked phones in for this exact repair without issue.
I've also read a few people mentioning excessive time on a charger being the culprit, which got me thinking of the mophie juice pack. Before I use one again, I'd sure like to figure out what the bloody deal is.
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This is, at least in my experience, the oddest crap for a phone to do.
Im working, phone is next to me on the charger. I receive and reply to a text, than a few minutes later press the top button on my mophie case to power the screen on to check the time, and it doesn't respond. At all, ever again.
I had been rooted and running CM for a solid few months without major issue. I had not made any changes, major or minor, to the phone in the previous several days.
At one point I plugged it into my computer. and got a message asking for QSUSB_Dload. (or something simiar). I tracked this down, downloaded and installed, with no change.
Im sending it back to HTC. In my reading I have come across posts from several people who had send unlocked phones in for this exact repair without issue.
I've also read a few people mentioning excessive time on a charger being the culprit, which got me thinking of the mophie juice pack. Before I use one again, I'd sure like to figure out what the bloody deal is.
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Need so much more info.
M7what?
CM10.what?
Hboot soff/on version?
What happened when you plugged it in?
What version of all the things?
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ALL the things>?
Um...I didn't know anything came after the M7....? It's your standard HTC One, ATT. As it is now en route to the good folks at HTC, I cannot look at it to be sure.
Im fairly sure I was on CM10.2.
What other things would be important? I assure you I do not know the version number of all the apps that were on that bloody phone.
When I plugged it in, the computer made the I found something in my USB port noise...than just a second later played another noise. I had never ever heard it play that sound before.
It informed me that it was searching for those drivers I mentioned. When it couln't find them., I went out and got them installed. It didn't make a difference.
I tried to run the adb but it would not find the device. Small wonder, what with not having the proper drivers for it's current, jacked up state. I tried recovery., I tried mirroring the screen, nothing. the home and back lights are dead, LED is dead, screen is dead.
Yet., somehow, the computer recognizes something is there.
If anyone knows what the devil is did, I'd be pleased to know.
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Um...I didn't know anything came after the M7....? It's your standard HTC One, ATT. As it is now en route to the good folks at HTC, I cannot look at it to be sure.
Im fairly sure I was on CM10.2.
What other things would be important? I assure you I do not know the version number of all the apps that were on that bloody phone.
When I plugged it in, the computer made the I found something in my USB port noise...than just a second later played another noise. I had never ever heard it play that sound before.
It informed me that it was searching for those drivers I mentioned. When it couln't find them., I went out and got them installed. It didn't make a difference.
I tried to run the adb but it would not find the device. Small wonder, what with not having the proper drivers for it's current, jacked up state. I tried recovery., I tried mirroring the screen, nothing. the home and back lights are dead, LED is dead, screen is dead.
Yet., somehow, the computer recognizes something is there.
If anyone knows what the devil is did, I'd be pleased to know.
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I'm wondering if the battery wasn't dead. Not enough people are coughing up the fastboot getvar to be sure.
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I'm wondering if the battery wasn't dead. Not enough people are coughing up the fastboot getvar to be sure.
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Most assuredly, the issue was not a dead battery. This I know to be true for several reasons --
60% charge when it went dead
On the OEM charger
left on the charger overnight with no change
no LED response when put on the charger.
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Most assuredly, the issue was not a dead battery. This I know to be true for several reasons --
60% charge when it went dead
On the OEM charger
left on the charger overnight with no change
no LED response when put on the charger.
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The last charged state has nothing to do with the battery ability to discharge or recharge it can indicate the batteries health but is a piss poor measuring stick.
Batteries just go bad, 100% - 1% if a cell fails or something else goes wrong it's done no matter how much it's charged.
So no, you don't know unless you tested it.
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I'm wondering if the battery wasn't dead. Not enough people are coughing up the fastboot getvar to be sure.
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Hey there,
I have my Vibrant for a good year now since it came out pretty much. Last week it just stopped charging out the blue. The battery is completely empty and shows a thermometer with a warning sign and stops charging seconds after its plugged in. So I assumed it might be a battery malfunction and I got my spare battery in as soon as I came home and tried charging - same problem. I think it is highly unlikely that both batteries fail at the same time. Therefore, I assume there is something wrong with the temp sensor in the phone. I saw a few people have a similar problem with the epic 4G, but the discussion got really side tracked by other issues. My phone is rooted, but I was running stock froyo, so that shouldn't be the problem or should it?
I just wanna know if anybody had the same problems and if there is a quick solution, I google and forum searched a while but as soon as you throw in the term battery it gets spammed with battery life discussions.I just checked my files I have on the phone, apparently I have the premium insurance - does that mean I just can go to the next Tmo store and get a replacement? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Phill
Well for your problem, i suggest you try a different rom and see if the problem persists... maybe its a bug
And as for insurance, you mail the phone in and pay a deductible, which should be like 135$ or so. They send you a refurb.. or if you say it wus lost, you dont have to mail in phone
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thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to reflash without a battery?
I don't see it as a bad thing. If your phone gets too hot and keeps charging that's going to burn something inside. When my phone won't charge I know I have let it down. So it can cool down. But to fix your problem reboot the phone. You can keep charging it after it boots up
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thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to reflash without a battery?
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As long as your phone can run successfully for a couple minutes, i dont see why not
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Mine did something similar. I picked it up after putting it on the charger. It was hot and would not come on. I unplugged it and let it cool off for a while and it cleared up.
I got that message once...
Vibrant was in a car dock, with power.
It was *HOT* out and sun was hitting the back of the unit. (A/C on of course)
Google Navigation was running (display brightness max)
Google Listen was running
Bluetooth was passing music to a speakerphone
When I run the phone with that setup, the charger can't even keep up with the phone power needs. The battery level slowly drops. No question the phone is working hard.
This was a true heat issue... I removed the charger and turned off the display to let it cool off a bit. (I was almost home).
So the question again, is your phone hot or is it a false reading?
Robert
Hey,
I am sorry I didn't clarify the actual battery temp. It is normal - so its neither in the sun or in a too cold spot when I try charging it. The phone probably runs for one for a few seconds before turning off so there is no chance of the battery stats wipe. I think I will try to find an external charger and try to charge the batteries this way to have enough juice for flashing a new rom. Thanks for all the replies!
Does it charge the battery with the phone off? If not, I don't think a new ROM will help.
Hey there! Wondering if you got around to solving this. I've got a Vibrant doing the same exact thing. Battery being cool it sais that is overheating. Did changing the ROM solved it or not?
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Hey there! Wondering if you got around to solving this. I've got a Vibrant doing the same exact thing. Battery being cool it sais that is overheating. Did changing the ROM solved it or not?
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but a resolution never seemed to be made here. Has anybody found a fix to this?
As of yesterday, my wife is having the same issue with my old Vibrant phone which she now uses. It's flashed with Bionix V 1.3.1 and Tigerblood overclock to 1.2ghz. This could be the issue, the Tiger Blood overclock, but I'm not sure. I'm out of the country for three weeks and currently she's left with a dud of a phone that keeps giving her the temperature warning in the triangle when plugged in while the phone is powered off followed by it stop charging. When she turns it on, she gets to the SD card check and then the phone completely freezes. Once in a while it's able to stay on for a minute or so before freezing, but more often than not the phone does not fully turn on and just goes frozen after a few seconds, sometimes at the Tigerblood logon screen before making it to the desktop. Me being 4000 miles away doesn't make it easier to help her but I've recommended she leave the phone unplugged, battery out for the night to see what happens. I also told her to take off her silicon case thinking maybe that has something to do with the overheating. Well after 7 hours of her letting it sit to cool off like that, with the case off, she plugged it back in and is having the same issues as yesterday. Absolutely no progress made. One of her colleagues said she should try leaving the phone in rice confused:) so she's giving that a go and another guy in a phone shop who she went to for advice after work said that the motherboard might need replacing. I'm convinced all it needs is to have the Tigerblood removed or reflash a rom onto it but there's really no knowing unless I have it in my hand.
Is there any quick fix to this problem without having to do all that? Surely there must be a way to charge the phone without it heating up and freezing up. She's tried plugging it into different rooms, on her laptop, etc, none seem to get rid of the temperature problem. I've had the phone since August 2010 and never had any issues with it. I also never once saw that temperature error message so was taken aback when she showed me it over skype. I just upgraded to the S3 and gave her the phone 2 weeks ago, but surely it shouldn't just die out just like that? Thought the Vibrants were made tougher than that?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance
Its most probably a kernel issue or a bug in the rom; so the only way to find out is to flash another kernel/rom..
P.s Vibrants are rock solid
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danny_extremex said:
Its most probably a kernel issue or a bug in the rom; so the only way to find out is to flash another kernel/rom..
P.s Vibrants are rock solid
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Will be looking into reflashing another kernel/rom when I get home in a few weeks time, but it must be noted that the phone has been showing no signs of life for the last few days now. After letting it sit out for 7 hours on the first night, battery out and everything, she went to plug it in the following morning and this time absolutely no notification came up. Not even a lighting up of the phone or anything. No signs of life at all. Every time she hit the power button nothing occurred. The phone still heats up and after a few minutes while plugged in and gets very hot to the touch again but no matter how many times she attempts to turn it on, nothing happens.. She's tried plugging it into her computer via usb, into electric sockets in other rooms, even in the bathroom in one of the 115 volt electric shaver outlets in the bathroom (we live in the UK currently), and none of these ideas worked. Still no signs of life. It has been this way for three days now and is frustrating as I can offer no advice to her to get the phone to turn on anymore.
What on earth can be the problem? Has this happened to anyone before? And is there a fix to this or can we consider the phone to be a paperweight at this point?
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Will be looking into reflashing another kernel/rom when I get home in a few weeks time, but it must be noted that the phone has been showing no signs of life for the last few days now. After letting it sit out for 7 hours on the first night, battery out and everything, she went to plug it in the following morning and this time absolutely no notification came up. Not even a lighting up of the phone or anything. No signs of life at all. Every time she hit the power button nothing occurred. The phone still heats up and after a few minutes while plugged in and gets very hot to the touch again but no matter how many times she attempts to turn it on, nothing happens.. She's tried plugging it into her computer via usb, into electric sockets in other rooms, even in the bathroom in one of the 115 volt electric shaver outlets in the bathroom (we live in the UK currently), and none of these ideas worked. Still no signs of life. It has been this way for three days now and is frustrating as I can offer no advice to her to get the phone to turn on anymore.
What on earth can be the problem? Has this happened to anyone before? And is there a fix to this or can we consider the phone to be a paperweight at this point?
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Some kernels require a certain amount of power to fully boot the phone up and will not charge until it has 5% battery or so. I personally think her battery may be unable to hold a charge or like I said before it doesn't have enough juice to boot the phone because of the kernel. There is a way to charge the battery with the phone off. You can use ANY kind of usb cord, I used an old printer usb cable when I had to do this. All you do is cut off the side that is not usb and strip the positive and negative wires(red and black), then place the stripped wires on the positive and negative connectors on the back of the phone and insert the battery (make sure it's a snug fit). Plug the usb end into your pc and charge the battery that way, DO NOT let charge for over 2 minutes at a time. Wait five minutes and do it again if you have to. If she gets it to boot up, I would definitely flash a new kernel first to see if thats how the problem originated.
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So I had bought this phone off ebay and when I got it today I tried to turn it on, but nothing happened.
I then plugged the phone in and tried powering it on and still nothing. I tried charging the battery and left it alone for an hour and afterwards the result is the same. Basically when I plug in the phone to the charger, the phone's screen will flash a battery icon as if its going to charge for a split second and then go blank. And then it will flash the battery icon again and then go blank again and it will go on like this for a couple of minutes until the screen finally stays blank.
So as I said even though I leave the phone to charge for a while, it still won't turn on and the only result seems to be that the phone gets warm near the camera. Also I tried to see if download mode works and pressed both volume buttons and I get a brief flash of some words. After doing it for several times I saw it said 'Low battery, cannot download' all in red.
I searched the forum and tried leaving the battery out for a while and also putting it in the fridge to see if anything would happen but nothing. So can anyone help? Is it just the battery?
Could be the battery - if you are on good terms with a local ATT store, try going there and asking if you can borrow a battery from their demo device to see if yours will power up. That's the best cheap way I can think of to rule that out.
Other possibility is a bad USB port. My first device developed a failure at about 2 months - I'm actually on day 5 with my warranty replacement. There is another member here, Moustro I think, who also may have a bad USB port. He and I were wondering if perhaps there was a bad batch out there. I'm not sure what ATT's warranty policy is for items re-sold on eBay, but might be worth checking out...
yeah that does sound like it could be the battery boot loop, take some photos of the battery to see if it is the oem... if it is the oem try a stand alone chager
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Could be the battery - if you are on good terms with a local ATT store, try going there and asking if you can borrow a battery from their demo device to see if yours will power up. That's the best cheap way I can think of to rule that out.
Other possibility is a bad USB port. My first device developed a failure at about 2 months - I'm actually on day 5 with my warranty replacement. There is another member here, Moustro I think, who also may have a bad USB port. He and I were wondering if perhaps there was a bad batch out there. I'm not sure what ATT's warranty policy is for items re-sold on eBay, but might be worth checking out...
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I live in Canada don't think I'd get much help from AT&T probably.
Also the battery is the original one and not a replacement. I left it unplugged for a few hours and just now plugged it back in and its the same battery icon flashing for a couple of minutes and then blank screen. No charging whatsoever. I tried different outlets and different USB ports on my notebook and its all the same.
I also have an Infuse and charging for that every by every method is just fine so its my SII that's messed up.
If it's any condolence to you, I just bought a brand new GS2 from the ATT store today. The battery was semi-charged when I got it, and when it ran out, I plugged it in and got the same thing you did. Battery is flashing, cannot power it on, even plugged in. I also got the red "Low battery, cannot download".
I spent the better part of 4 hours reloading my apps and email addys, and everything else to get my phone up and running, and now this.
I am going back to the ATT store tomorrow and requesting a different brand new one.
This is my 2nd GS2, because I destroyed my first one in an accident.
Just as dandrumheller was saying. I had simimiar issues where the phone battery would blink on and off even if the charger was plugged in or not while the phone was powered off. The only way I could get my phone to boot to prepare it for warranty exchange was to flash a rom through Odin. But if you can't get it into download mode this wouldn't work.
My suggestion would be to use a different battery. That would let you know if its a hardware issue or bad battery.
hmm...
I was able to to get it to power on last night with what little battery was left. I then plugged it into the USB of my Mac, rather than the charging wart. When I awoke this AM, I have a fully charged battery, and a working phone. I will let the battery run out again completely today and see what happens.
That's great news! I hope it continues to work for you
I would not let it completely run out. Our batteries don't like that. Don't go below 25 percent. I'm glad you got it working. I know you're relieved.
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I'm not sure relieved is the right word.
Apprehensive might be better.
We all know AT&T isn't in the best graces with most.
They must be the ***** of Comcast.
Anybody got anymore suggestions?? Can't get it to work no matter what I try.
Call samsung and see if they will honor the warranty? Don't know their rules, but in another thread someone suggested that sale of the phone does not void the warranty.
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Anybody got anymore suggestions?? Can't get it to work no matter what I try.
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Max,
Were you able to find a fix for your problem? i bought a SGII from ebay and is presenting the same issue
For what its worth I am able to enter download with NO battery. In fact I ONLY do it without a battery. I just hold both volume buttons and plug in the USB to my computer while not pressing anything else. Without battery.
Thought the OP said he couldn't enter download.... so if that doesn't throw it in download it's more than just battery.
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For what its worth I am able to enter download with NO battery. In fact I ONLY do it without a battery. I just hold both volume buttons and plug in the USB to my computer while not pressing anything else. Without battery.
Thought the OP said he couldn't enter download.... so if that doesn't throw it in download it's more than just battery.
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Guys,
I tried this and it worked...
At a last resort, i put the battery on nexus to see if it will charge and DAMN !! it did,, so the battery was not the issue...so i grab a swab with little alcohol then clean the terminals on the battery and the spring connectors on the phone... and voila !!! started charging and keeps working perfectly.
It worked for me, hopefully it will work for you guys.
Glad you were able to isolate the problem.
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Same problem
Flashing on for a sec then flashing off, buttons flashed too. Phone got hot around the battery. Couldn't have described the problem better
Took some alcohol, cleaned the contacts for the USB connector, cleaned the battery contacts, and booyah, got the charging symbol again! Problem was, I didn't use the phone for a month, it rode around in the front pocket of my laptop bag, and apparently got the contacts dirty. A little toothpick and q-tip fun later, and my phone started charging again. Thanks -
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I would not let it completely run out. Our batteries don't like that. Don't go below 25 percent. I'm glad you got it working. I know you're relieved.
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Really? I've had mostly HTC phones and we could run them down pretty low.. I've been running mine down past 10 and it's been fine.. stock battery.
I had the same problem as op. My last resort was to cut the micro usb end of a spare cable and connected it to the (+) and (-) on the phone itself. since the phone booted up, i knew it was the battery. Next, i did the same thing but (+) and (-) on the battery itself while connected to a computer. i held it in place for about 10 seconds. put the battery back in the phone and it started charging again. im sure it wasnt the safeat thing to do, but it worked. Maybe the dead battery needed some kind of jump.
btw. The wires you would be using are the the black and red. and i got this idea from
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(remove spaces between modmy and mobile)
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Really? I've had mostly HTC phones and we could run them down pretty low.. I've been running mine down past 10 and it's been fine.. stock battery.
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I believe these are different types of batteries. Not Lithium, but something else. I bought some spare batteries from eBay and the batteries had the same instructions... That it is not good to let them die completely, and charge then preferably when they still have 1/3 charge left.
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I have a Motorola Atrix 4G on Bell Mobility. Currently the phone will not boot at all. The phone is out of warranty.
When this started I began by searching through the xda forums and found several similar problems. Most pointed to the sleep-of-death or a charging adapter problem. I have tried charging with the Motorola adapter that came with the phone, a USB cable and the Motorola Lapdock. None of these have provided any happy. Each time I tried, I left the phone overnight, when I checked on it, the phone and battery were cold. I tested a known-working battery from another Atrix and the phone would still not boot.
Some other searches point to a factory cable. I bought one on Ebay however the phone will not boot. I tested the cable on a known-working Atrix and it works fine. I did notice that when I plug the factory cable in to my phone and in to my Windows 7 PC, it detects *something*. Under device manager I see an unknown device called "APX". So far Google and xda searches haven't been able to provide me with a correct answer.
When I plug in the regular USB cable the green LED turns on for a while, if I touch the power button, the green LED goes out. RSD Lite does not detect anything, I assume this is because the phone is not in RSD mode.
I have tried combinations of volume buttons/power button as well, both with the wall charger and with the factory cable. Nothing displays on the screen at all no matter what I've tried. The phone had the stock install from Bell however was rooted with SuperOneClick (obtained from xda forums and installed many months ago) and had no third-party apps on it.
This death seemed to start slowly, at first battery life was at times terrible, then it moved on to not wanting to power on for a while if the battery died or the phone was turned off when the battery was low. Removing/re-inserting the battery several times typically helped. Eventually the phone got so bad, when it booted it would just crash repeatedly with a message about motorola.home.something (sorry I don't remember exactly what). Hitting force close would just bring the message back up again. I left the phone off overnight and the next morning, R.I.P. my Atrix
I have access to Windows XP or 7 as well as Linux.
Any help would be appreciated. Also I apologize for the long-winded post, I'm trying to provide as much information as I can.
I had this problem to, I freaked out, what I needed to do was to get another Atrix (in this case my Uncles) and make sure that the battery in it is FULLY CHARGED, then I took out my battery (in the broken phone) and put in his, then I got a solid green LED, then I had to leave it on the charger overnight, after that the M would show, but that was it, so I then went into fastboot and flashed the ICS Leak, and ta-da.
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I had this problem to, I freaked out, what I needed to do was to get another Atrix (in this case my Uncles) and make sure that the battery in it is FULLY CHARGED, then I took out my battery (in the broken phone) and put in his, then I got a solid green LED, then I had to leave it on the charger overnight, after that the M would show, but that was it, so I then went into fastboot and flashed the ICS Leak, and ta-da.
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I had tried that before, but I can't remember if I had charged the battery full. I'll give it a shot today, thanks!
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I had tried that before, but I can't remember if I had charged the battery full. I'll give it a shot today, thanks!
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I've tried that with no luck. I should also note that the factory cable bypasses the battery, potentially eliminating any battery problems.
It's possible that your phone is finished. The 'motorola.home' error is usually caused by something you've updated (google search?) but I would doubt that it would cause your phone to not even start up.
At this point, I might be inclined to open the phone up (http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola+Atrix+4G+Teardown/4964/1) and see if you can see anything obvious?
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It's possible that your phone is finished. The 'motorola.home' error is usually caused by something you've updated (google search?) but I would doubt that it would cause your phone to not even start up.
At this point, I might be inclined to open the phone up <url removed so I could reply> and see if you can see anything obvious?
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I will check that out tonight and report back, thanks!
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I will check that out tonight and report back, thanks!
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Nothing obvious when I took it apart, no visible damage or problems. Any other thoughts? I've been told to try ADB from a Linux box and see if it will do anything. I've started installing ADB but looking for more insight.
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Nothing obvious when I took it apart, no visible damage or problems. Any other thoughts? I've been told to try ADB from a Linux box and see if it will do anything. I've started installing ADB but looking for more insight.
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Update. I found this ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11901016&postcount=75 and now instead of "APX" in Windows device manager, I have "NVIDIA USB Boot-recovery driver for Mobile devices".
It looks like NVFlash might be something I need next. In other news, the phone when plugged in via the factory cable, is actually very slightly warm. It's the first new sign of life I've seen in this thing for a few days.
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Update. I found this ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11901016&postcount=75 and now instead of "APX" in Windows device manager, I have "NVIDIA USB Boot-recovery driver for Mobile devices".
It looks like NVFlash might be something I need next. In other news, the phone when plugged in via the factory cable, is actually very slightly warm. It's the first new sign of life I've seen in this thing for a few days.
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I've had no luck at all since my last reply. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046994 seems to have something to do with my problem, but I'm not able to dig up a solid answer. As best as I can tell, I manged to hard brick the thing and I'm up the creek without a required paddle.
Any other thoughts on this would be great. Even if I'm able to ensure the device is wiped, I could send it in. There are work files on there (I know, I know, I'm an idiot) I can't have out in the wild.
Just bought a replacement Atrix for $100. It included three cases, three batteries, wall charger with cable, car dock and a metric ass-load of screen protectors.
I do want to thank everyone for offering help and ideas, it was a good learning experience!
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Just bought a replacement Atrix for $100. It included three cases, three batteries, wall charger with cable, car dock and a metric ass-load of screen protectors.
I do want to thank everyone for offering help and ideas, it was a good learning experience!
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I've just encountered this issue and cannot find a solution anywhere online. I've come to terms with my phones fate by now. Just wanted to ask where I could find this Atrix replacement for 100 w/ all the neat stuff you've listed above? Please advise
thanks
Cheekan
cheekan said:
I've just encountered this issue and cannot find a solution anywhere online. I've come to terms with my phones fate by now. Just wanted to ask where I could find this Atrix replacement for 100 w/ all the neat stuff you've listed above? Please advise
thanks
Cheekan
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I found mine on Kijiji, luckily right in my city.
Hello, so much time searching for this on the web, spanish is my birth language... so i wanted to know some update from this of any of you if posible, thanks in advance.
i couldn't describe better the problem and situatiob, is exactly the same, same phone of course.
I was about to try to make a factory cable, so i ended here, i think is not going to help me then is that right?
PD: i don't know what more to do with the atrix, sell for parts, even that is difficult over here, and the services don't help either, i've tryied 2 of them already, only ignorance they have
Hey guys, it's been awhile since I asked a question, but here I am, lol.
In a nutshell, I'm pretty sure something in my device (hardware) is fried, but I thought I'd see if anyone knows better.
The problem is my device seems to be sending power out of the usb port, and doesn't connect to the pc or recognize it is charging correctly.
This also applies to download mode (windows says device has malfunctioned) and when powered off (there is no battery that shows up when plugged in). In order to power back on after turning it off, I have to remove the battery, then reinsert it while holding down the power. I can't think of much that could have caused this, other than I was visiting places with high humidity levels. One unusual thing that happened before this started was my device rebooted into safe mode when playing bad piggies. That was really weird since I have tried booting into safe mode before, but thought samsung must have disabled it for some reason. I have already tried wiping data and flashing a new kernel/rom. Obviously I can't re-partition since I can't connect to my computer in download mode. What do you guys think? I think it is time for a new device.
EDIT: I should mention that it started behaving normally yesterday for about 5 minutes, but then it went back to this.
iJimaniac said:
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In a nutshell, I'm pretty sure something in my device (hardware) is fried, but I thought I'd see if anyone knows better.
The problem is my device seems to be sending power out of the usb port...
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I'm 99.9% sure that under normal conditions that an Android device should never power the USB port. Source of speculation. If it is indeed powering the USB, then you've either got a really wonky firmware installed, or some sort of hardware issue. I'd try to make sure that it's sending power out before going further (especially if you can't charge it, the battery will be dead soon). After this test, I'd keep the battery out for a while, just to be sure it's not going to short anything.
One thing I've noticed in my tinkering is that taking a device apart, then putting it back together again can mysteriously fix problems (although 75% of the time the fix is temporary). If you suspect water damage, opening it up and letting it air out might help. I want to say there are certain cleaners that are great for cleaning up any water spots that might be shorting things out, but I've never had to try myself.
That's all I can think of right off. Good luck.
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I'm 99.9% sure that under normal conditions that an Android device should never power the USB port. Source of speculation. If it is indeed powering the USB, then you've either got a really wonky firmware installed, or some sort of hardware issue. I'd try to make sure that it's sending power out before going further (especially if you can't charge it, the battery will be dead soon). After this test, I'd keep the battery out for a while, just to be sure it's not going to short anything.
One thing I've noticed in my tinkering is that taking a device apart, then putting it back together again can mysteriously fix problems (although 75% of the time the fix is temporary). If you suspect water damage, opening it up and letting it air out might help. I want to say there are certain cleaners that are great for cleaning up any water spots that might be shorting things out, but I've never had to try myself.
That's all I can think of right off. Good luck.
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Yeah, I'm working on taking it apart right now. With my limited experience on electronics, I would be willing to bet it's a capacitor that's gone bad somewhere. That wouldn't be a problem on a desktop since I could just solder a new one in, but I don't think I have the skill to do something in such a small scale, not to mention I don't think you can even buy them that small.
The same thing happened to me, and I had to send it in for repair. Luckily, I was still in warranty. Also, are you sure it's not the charger cord?
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The same thing happened to me, and I had to send it in for repair. Luckily, I was still in warranty. Also, are you sure it's not the charger cord?
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I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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honestly, i cannot begin to fathom what could be causing this. it seems to me samsing paid more attention to the charging port then say amazon did on the first gen kindle.
i do however, wish you the best of luck and hope you somehow manage to fix it
iJimaniac said:
I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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See! Told you taking it apart and putting it back together again works... temporarily. :silly:
You're right, that does sound like power going out. Which would be super cool for powering, say, a micro USB laser pointer, but it's not so great when it should be charging. Can you double check with another device that the charger doesn't light up normally? I know my wife's laptop charger has a LED that stays on for a long time after it's been unplugged from the wall, sipping off of power left in the charger. It could be something similar with your charger.
Just a though... if power is only suppose to go into the device, then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume to that there would be a diode forcing power to only go one way? Or does it need to cycle power back to the charger? IDK, but it might be worth looking to see if something looks missing.
I read somewhere that if the battery voltage gets too low i.e. battery is totally flat, a current will flow from the device to the charger so this may be what's going on here. I didn't really understand the post as I was just whizzing through the thread, but i think the solution was to charge the device for many hours until the battery voltage was high enough for normal charging to occur. I'll try and locate the post, but it might take a while
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@iJimaniac if all of these suggestions dont work, there is the possibility to just buy another battery and a battery charger and keep switching out the batteries when they die
Maybe @henk5066 would know something about this?
From what it sounds like, your power circuit is fried and is not directing power correctly this means that you're probably going to have to replace the mainboard. however don't worry. you can get one from a player with a broken screen on ebay for about 10 $. I can p.m. you some links to products on eBay with main board working and not screen and I can post a video on YouTube that shows you how to replace the board. it's actually rather quite easy. I don't get why most people don't do that and instead buy a new one. let me know if that helps
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henk5066 said:
From what it sounds like, your power circuit is fried and is not directing power correctly this means that you're probably going to have to replace the mainboard. however don't worry. you can get one from a player with a broken screen on ebay for about 10 $. I can p.m. you some links to products on eBay with main board working and not screen and I can post a video on YouTube that shows you how to replace the board. it's actually rather quite easy. I don't get why most people don't do that and instead buy a new one. let me know if that helps
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Wow, I didn't realize a broken player is so cheap. I'll look into it, and instructions won't be needed; I've already fully dissasembled my device many times in the past, just for kicks.
Edit: could you send me those links? I'm having a hard time finding very many under $25, which is still a good price I suppose.
the broken player it's self is cheap (0.99$ if your lowest bidder and win) it is shipping that makes up for most of the cost. Just make sure you get one that says powers on, that is the main indicator that the main board is still good.
EDIT: I just looked on ebay, aparantly the person i bought my new board is out of the 4.0 player. and it looks like there is however one with a 9.99$ bid. you could raise it and get the player but that is the cheapest you will get. i will pm you a link to it.
I had the same problem
I had the same problem, what i did was, instead of charging it with the original charger, i charged it with my nexus 10 charger in download mode all through the night, and the next day it would have about 80 percent charge and it was in the system, but it drained quick when i would unplugged it, so i repeat the same procedure over several days until get to 100% and scince then i have had no problems with my SGP, hopefully i helped you
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I had the same problem, what i did was, instead of charging it with the original charger, i charged it with my nexus 10 charger in download mode all through the night, and the next day it would have about 80 percent charge and it was in the system, but it drained quick when i would unplugged it, so i repeat the same procedure over several days until get to 100% and scince then i have had no problems with my SGP, hopefully i helped you
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Interesting, i thought the devices could not charge in download mode.
On the subject of odd charging behavieor, has anyone noticed that when plugged in running cyanogenmod overclocked to 1200mhz, the micro usb port area on the player gets rather hot?
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Interesting, i thought the devices could not charge in download mode.
On the subject of odd charging behavieor, has anyone noticed that when plugged in running cyanogenmod overclocked to 1200mhz, the micro usb port area on the player gets rather hot?
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I haven't noticed excessive heat in that area.
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This morning I got in my car and plugged my phone in, turned on Waze and drove to work which everything was fine. I started to do some testing on my phone at work which was killing the battery so I plugged it in, but the light did not appear for charging. I tried plugging it into two different computers, wall outlet, and different cords. I tried a co-workers phone on my cord and his started charging with no problems both connected to the PC and wall outlet. I cleaned the USB port on the phone thinking their maybe some dirt and build up in there, but still no love. Tried simulating a battery pull, flashing a ROM, and doing a restore...again no love. So I am guessing either the battery or the port is bad, even though the cable clips into place and is not loose.
My question I guess is: I have insurance on the phone, but do I need to RUU the phone in order to get the work done or will Sprint not care? I don't want to RUU and not be able to unlock and root again, but at the same time....I need a working phone. Also, if I missed something in my troubleshooting that someone has had success with for the same issue, please let me know.
Here is an early Thank You for those that may have suggestions or advice.
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This morning I got in my car and plugged my phone in, turned on Waze and drove to work which everything was fine. I started to do some testing on my phone at work which was killing the battery so I plugged it in, but the light did not appear for charging. I tried plugging it into two different computers, wall outlet, and different cords. I tried a co-workers phone on my cord and his started charging with no problems both connected to the PC and wall outlet. I cleaned the USB port on the phone thinking their maybe some dirt and build up in there, but still no love. Tried simulating a battery pull, flashing a ROM, and doing a restore...again no love. So I am guessing either the battery or the port is bad, even though the cable clips into place and is not loose.
My question I guess is: I have insurance on the phone, but do I need to RUU the phone in order to get the work done or will Sprint not care? I don't want to RUU and not be able to unlock and root again, but at the same time....I need a working phone. Also, if I missed something in my troubleshooting that someone has had success with for the same issue, please let me know.
Here is an early Thank You for those that may have suggestions or advice.
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Hey bud. First thing I would do is flash the latest stable TWRP for the phone. Then boot to recovery and see if it will charge.
If not, try flashing a stock kernel and see if that fixes the issue.
If it still has problems, I would be willing to bet it is hardware related be it the board, port, or battery.
If you are S=OFF, you will be able to root and unlock just fine. I don't know the carriers policies, but it's always safe to be RUU if you intend to do a Insurance claim. Make sure all your internal memory is backed up prior to flashing a RUU.
I found out the usb port on the phone is bad, but if I plug it in halfway the phone will charge. Thanks for the response and suggestion neo.
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I found out the usb port on the phone is bad, but if I plug it in halfway the phone will charge. Thanks for the response and suggestion neo.
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I've had that problem a few times too. Followed these instructions (found somewhere else) and it's corrected it every time:
1. Power phone off
2. Put on charger for at least ten minutes (does not appear to be charging, but that was the instruction)
3. Hold both the volume up and power buttons at the same time for at least two minutes (phone goes into kind of a boot loop)
4. Release both and phone reboots and charging works again
For me it fixed the "messing with the USB plug"
At least worth a try.
tlarm said:
I've had that problem a few times too. Followed these instructions (found somewhere else) and it's corrected it every time:
1. Power phone off
2. Put on charger for at least ten minutes (does not appear to be charging, but that was the instruction)
3. Hold both the volume up and power buttons at the same time for at least two minutes (phone goes into kind of a boot loop)
4. Release both and phone reboots and charging works again
For me it fixed the "messing with the USB plug"
At least worth a try.
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I have not heard of this one before. I will give this a try, see what happens and report back. Thanks.
tlarm said:
I've had that problem a few times too. Followed these instructions (found somewhere else) and it's corrected it every time:
1. Power phone off
2. Put on charger for at least ten minutes (does not appear to be charging, but that was the instruction)
3. Hold both the volume up and power buttons at the same time for at least two minutes (phone goes into kind of a boot loop)
4. Release both and phone reboots and charging works again
For me it fixed the "messing with the USB plug"
At least worth a try.
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Unfortunately this did not work for me, but thanks for the suggestion.
bdiddled said:
Unfortunately this did not work for me, but thanks for the suggestion.
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Sorry that didn't work. I always hate giving up, especially when it's usually a mess I've caused. Hahaha but anyway, if things are straightening out when I have issues, I go back and flash the stock android rom, I'm on Verizon and use the deodexed one in another post on here. Seems as though using the rom designed for the phone cures a lot of ills (imagine that). Again, unless your set on sending it back (personally I hate the hassle of that) I'd give that a try too along with doing the button holding thing too if just flashing the rom doesn't correct it. Good luck whichever you decide!
tlarm said:
Sorry that didn't work. I always hate giving up, especially when it's usually a mess I've caused. Hahaha but anyway, if things are straightening out when I have issues, I go back and flash the stock android rom, I'm on Verizon and use the deodexed one in another post on here. Seems as though using the rom designed for the phone cures a lot of ills (imagine that). Again, unless your set on sending it back (personally I hate the hassle of that) I'd give that a try too along with doing the button holding thing too if just flashing the rom doesn't correct it. Good luck whichever you decide!
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Well I ran an RUU yesterday and had no luck, until I found plugging it in halfway got it to charge. I have tried everything that I can think of along with neo and your suggestions, but the port is just bad. So I am hoping it will hold off until the end of the month when the m9 comes out and I am able to upgrade. So I will ride it out till it completely stops charging or I get a new phone. I do appreciate your suggestions and help though.
bdiddled said:
Well I ran an RUU yesterday and had no luck, until I found plugging it in halfway got it to charge. I have tried everything that I can think of along with neo and your suggestions, but the port is just bad. So I am hoping it will hold off until the end of the month when the m9 comes out and I am able to upgrade. So I will ride it out till it completely stops charging or I get a new phone. I do appreciate your suggestions and help though.
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If you have insurance they should cover that... Also if your have Verizon the extended warranty may cover it.
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