Extensive note taking and drawing - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Hi Im always lookin to replace my small lecture notepad with tablet or phone and it seems ZU is the perfect size for such task. Do any of you do the same and what's your take on the responsiveness of the screen and stylus? I understand there's not active digitizer which is quite a shame but in portrait mode will I be able to write comfortably and rest my palm on the desk?
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Also is the screen picky on the angle of the stylus must be hold in order to response to it ?
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The only thing that comes to mind is that how will you protect the glass from scratches The Z Ultra is able to take input from ordinary pencil but to do so, make it easier to scratch. In term of sensitivity it is near perfect imho, only lacking pressure level recognition.
The way for me to do it was, to buy any additional screen protector (i.e. the Nillkin one will suffice) and use some soft material for a pen, which in my case is an ordinary cheap chopsticks, shaved like a pencil and soaked with water. It works perfectly. Or like some other, they bought the Galaxy C Pen for it. Both shouldn't be able to scratch the screen.

Thank you for your input.
I'm going to use a proper stylus even though the phone is capable of recognizing a variety of pen and pencil. Besides pencil will certainly leave lead on the screen. My concern is how does it fare comparing with pen and paper.
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After some research I'm now swinging to galaxy note 3 instead. Despite of the size of the ZU I think Sony is marketing it towards leisure instead of sketches and note taking.
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raundown said:
After some research I'm now swinging to galaxy note 3 instead. Despite of the size of the ZU I think Sony is marketing it towards leisure instead of sketches and note taking.
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Yeah, the Note 3 will work better for these types of things.

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Case with magnets bad?

So I bought a case from eBay that came from Hong Kong. It arrived to today. Its a flip case that closes with a magnet but I did not know that before I bought it. Is the magnet bad for the screen or S Pen?
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It seems if the magnet is strong it could cause issues. Although the Seidio case has a magnet on the back that does not affect the screen. I think it depends on location and strength of the magnet.
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The magnet is on the right side in the middle of the case (when its flipped closed) on top of the screen. I'll take a pic of it n put it here later when I get home. How do I know if its too strong? I really like the case but I don't want the magnet to mess up the screen, S Pen or anything else in the phone
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the strength of magnets doesn't affect the screens as much as the length of exposure. Magnets will cause a sort of dead spot for the s pen though. When you see a demo, go to a paint program and try to shade the whole screen in and you will see a circle the size of the offending magnet that won't allow itself to be colored in.
I contacted wacom, who I believe make the s pen tech and they said though magnets will cause things to not work, it won't cause any long term damage
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the strength of magnets doesn't affect the screens as much as the length of exposure. Magnets will cause a sort of dead spot for the s pen though. When you see a demo, go to a paint program and try to shade the whole screen in and you will see a circle the size of the offending magnet that won't allow itself to be colored in.
I contacted wacom, who I believe make the s pen tech and they said though magnets will cause things to not work, it won't cause any long term damage
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Oh okay. So I can keep it on n it will cause a little bit of an issue with the screen but eventually go away? I was thinking of throwing the case away but idk yet
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Well here's a pic of it. Upon further inspection the magnet seems to be next to the screen, not on top of it like I originally thought. Is there still a chance it could mess up the S Pen tho?
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xXJay_RXx said:
Well here's a pic of it. Upon further inspection the magnet seems to be next to the screen, not on top of it like I originally thought. Is there still a chance it could mess up the S Pen tho?
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The s-pen uses magnetism as a source of power. Introducing a magnet to the field simply disrupts the field and keeps the phone and the s-pen from resonating. Introducing a magnet will not harm the accuracy of the device. Removal of the magnet should immediately cease any inaccuracies with the s-pen. Long story short, use with confidence sir!
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The s-pen uses magnetism as a source of power. Introducing a magnet to the field simply disrupts the field and keeps the phone and the s-pen from resonating. Introducing a magnet will not harm the accuracy of the device. Removal of the magnet should immediately cease any inaccuracies with the s-pen. Long story short, use with confidence sir!
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Thank you :thumbup:
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Common issue on the Galaxy Note 10.1 (which is the supersized version of Note II) forum with cases with magnet affecting the Wacom pen.
I had to return my case for this very reason. There was a large round dead spot where the magnet was, moved the magnet away and the spot was fine. In addition, the note 2 manual states to not use cases with magnets, so back mine went.
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I had to return my case for this very reason. There was a large round dead spot where the magnet was, moved the magnet away and the spot was fine. In addition, the note 2 manual states to not use cases with magnets, so back mine went.
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I would return mine but to return it back to China n wait so long for a refund isn't worth the $7 I paid for
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Im still using tat type of magnet cover..
My cast that I got from Best Buy, the one that is identical to the Surface case, affects the S pen. That small magnet affects the drawing area even though its small and on the back side. Hopefully when my Active case gets here it wont have the same issue since there is the silicon case in between.

any owners that also had a Galaxy Mega?

I currently have the Galaxy Mega and absolutely love it...that being said when i saw the google play edition of the Z ultra last night I got a bit envious. has anyone come from the mega and if so what are your thoughts? i know there is little size difference but what were your impressions?
obviously, i'm fine with big phones but i'm concerned about the camera since i have an infant and taking pictures is actually important to me now.
also, i am wondering if you can use the Samsung MHL cable on the XZU as i use mhl daily. would be nice not to have to buy another cable.
I have no experience with the Mega, but your MHL cable won't work. Samsung MHL adapters are 11 pins while the rest are 5 pins. Non-Samsung adapters are very cheap though ($10 bucks)
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I came from a Mega:
This is so much more powerful. Like, crazy powerful. It completely devastates the Mega. It's noticable the second you start using it, its just so fast and smooth.
The second big improvement is the screen. The Mega has an awesome screen for 720p, but the panel in the Ultra is epic.
The third big improvement is surprisingly battery life! The Ultra is considerably better.
Fourth big improvement is in signal quality. I am UK based so don't use LTE currently, but 3G the Ultra gets a stronger signal pretty much everywhere.
It's waterproof, which is never a bad thing.
Oh and I nearly forgot... Roms. There is already an excelent CM10.2 build available for the Ultra, as well as a fair few other roms and obviously the GPE just got announced and that will bring a tidal wave of very high quality roms. The Mega development section on the other hand is virtually a barren wasteland, and being both underpowered and Touchwiz inflicted it is in desperate need of a decent AOSP build. The Ultra is actually fine stock ironically, Sony only lightly skin Android and the stock rom is near-AOSP anyway.
On the downsides:
The Mega did fit in my pocket better, though I still keep my Ultra in the front pocket of my jeans just as I did with my Mega. The angular design looks good, but it is a little impractical on a device this big.
The touchscreen is prone to occasional mistouches, mainly if it's dirty. Not a big issue by any means, but a minus point non the less.
The camera is much better on the Mega, particularly in low light.
The "ASF" screen protection fitted as standard is stupid. It's plastic based, so it will scratch considerably easier than the strengthened glass beneath it and doesn't feel as nice under the finger. If you remove the film, which took me about 3 hours, the glass underneath doesn't have any oleophobic coating and so gets dirty easily. I plan on buying some of the Fusso replacement oleophobic coating on the net soon to resolve this once and for all, but that costs £20 and it shouldn't be necessary.
For me, the Ultra is the MUCH better phone. I'm really happy with mine, probably the best phone I have ever owned. :good:
i just returned my mega to buy a z ultra play edition, the mega wasn't powerful enough and didn't have enough customization options for me.
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I came from a Mega:
This is so much more powerful. Like, crazy powerful. It completely devastates the Mega. It's noticable the second you start using it, its just so fast and smooth.
The second big improvement is the screen. The Mega has an awesome screen for 720p, but the panel in the Ultra is epic.
The third big improvement is surprisingly battery life! The Ultra is considerably better.
Fourth big improvement is in signal quality. I am UK based so don't use LTE currently, but 3G the Ultra gets a stronger signal pretty much everywhere.
It's waterproof, which is never a bad thing.
Oh and I nearly forgot... Roms. There is already an excelent CM10.2 build available for the Ultra, as well as a fair few other roms and obviously the GPE just got announced and that will bring a tidal wave of very high quality roms. The Mega development section on the other hand is virtually a barren wasteland, and being both underpowered and Touchwiz inflicted it is in desperate need of a decent AOSP build. The Ultra is actually fine stock ironically, Sony only lightly skin Android and the stock rom is near-AOSP anyway.
On the downsides:
The Mega did fit in my pocket better, though I still keep my Ultra in the front pocket of my jeans just as I did with my Mega. The angular design looks good, but it is a little impractical on a device this big.
The touchscreen is prone to occasional mistouches, mainly if it's dirty. Not a big issue by any means, but a minus point non the less.
The camera is much better on the Mega, particularly in low light.
The "ASF" screen protection fitted as standard is stupid. It's plastic based, so it will scratch considerably easier than the strengthened glass beneath it and doesn't feel as nice under the finger. If you remove the film, which took me about 3 hours, the glass underneath doesn't have any oleophobic coating and so gets dirty easily. I plan on buying some of the Fusso replacement oleophobic coating on the net soon to resolve this once and for all, but that costs £20 and it shouldn't be necessary.
For me, the Ultra is the MUCH better phone. I'm really happy with mine, probably the best phone I have ever owned. :good:
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thanks for the help.
some of the things that make me weary of the XZU - i think the sharp pretty much sucks and prefer the rounded corners. i'm not sure if it being a bit bigger will be much of a problem or not. i went to the store to try to find one and its not in stock anywhere yet.
i really want a stock android experience though and i'll never ever get that on the Mega since they'll never get MHL to work and i use mhl daily with my appradio 2 and must have it.
that google play edition is so so tempting...i better not even mention i bought another phone after just getting the mega 6 weeks ago.
is it at all easier to use being so much thinner? i didn't think that would matter though in ease of use but not sure.
It's actually ridiculously thin. I have a hard time picking it up from the table. It's almost like trying to pick something flat off the ground and you can't really get a grip. It would've been brutal for the pockets if it was thicker.
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It's actually ridiculously thin. I have a hard time picking it up from the table. It's almost like trying to pick something flat off the ground and you can't really get a grip. It would've been brutal for the pockets if it was thicker.
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do you use a case with it?
i am also confused about this screen protector? is it a protector just built onto the phone that most people don't like or remove but its really hard to take off? i haven't seen any reviews mentioning it.
I'm not using a case. I like to use my devices naked. The screen protector is an "Anti shatter film" that's preventing glass from shattering once you break it. You may remove it if you want to, but I've heard that it takes like three hours to do it since it's really thin and it breaks into tiny pieces. It's not a good protector, so the oleophobic layer (anti smudge) layer will start to come of after some use. Also, since it's a plastic sheet, using pens on it to take notes or draw isn't recommended since it will naturally scratch it. Sony sure employed a brainiac to do this job, and I can't understand why they would do this.
Either way, that's just how it is. You won't notice or even see the protector, and if you get scratches, you can remove it and use your own protector. It just takes a lot of time. You can read all about it in a thread that's lying around here some place.
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do you use a case with it?
i am also confused about this screen protector? is it a protector just built onto the phone that most people don't like or remove but its really hard to take off? i haven't seen any reviews mentioning it.
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I'm using a black TPU case I got off ebay for £3, it doesn't add hadly any bulk but ofers decent protection.
I bought the Mega for the mrs. She wanted a large screen but doesn't need all the bells and whistles and see loves it and is used to TW having come from a note 2.
Honestly I like both devices, but for a hardcore tinkerer like me I had to have the Ultra.
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I'm using a black TPU case I got off ebay for £3, it doesn't add hadly any bulk but ofers decent protection.
I bought the Mega for the mrs. She wanted a large screen but doesn't need all the bells and whistles and see loves it and is used to TW having come from a note 2.
Honestly I like both devices, but for a hardcore tinkerer like me I had to have the Ultra.
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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Give them a call and ask if they have it before you go out the door
knives of ice said:
yes, i just wish there was somewhere i could go check out the device before buying it.
the biggest thing i think i will hate is that screen protector on the phone. that seems like the dumbest decision ever to put that on out of the factory.
there is a sony outlet store about 40min from me i wonder if they would have one, surely they would
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You can't see the factory fitted screen protector. I have a normal screen protector on top as well and its invisable if you take your time to install it carefully :thumbup:
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Yeah, you won't notice it at all unless you get some bad scratches. Just treat it as a gadget, and not a piece of meat, and you probably won't get any.
If you have an infant and pictures are key for you then avoid this phone like the plague. I have young kids also and this camera sucks. However otherwise the phone is very good in every other aspect.
knives of ice said:
I currently have the Galaxy Mega and absolutely love it...that being said when i saw the google play edition of the Z ultra last night I got a bit envious. has anyone come from the mega and if so what are your thoughts? i know there is little size difference but what were your impressions?
obviously, i'm fine with big phones but i'm concerned about the camera since i have an infant and taking pictures is actually important to me now.
also, i am wondering if you can use the Samsung MHL cable on the XZU as i use mhl daily. would be nice not to have to buy another cable.
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I dont like Samsung products, bcuz they all look like sanitary napkins.
I'm waiting for my ZU to come in the mail I'm so excited coming from a Mega 6.3!
After playing with a friends ZU, the thing that I will appreciate most on the ZU is the faster processor and larger RAM, although I must admit I do wish the camera on it was a bit better with flash!! I'm a girl and I like to take selfies geez... :silly:
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I'm not using a case. I like to use my devices naked. The screen protector is an "Anti shatter film" that's preventing glass from shattering once you break it. You may remove it if you want to, but I've heard that it takes like three hours to do it since it's really thin and it breaks into tiny pieces. It's not a good protector, so the oleophobic layer (anti smudge) layer will start to come of after some use. Also, since it's a plastic sheet, using pens on it to take notes or draw isn't recommended since it will naturally scratch it. Sony sure employed a brainiac to do this job, and I can't understand why they would do this.
Either way, that's just how it is. You won't notice or even see the protector, and if you get scratches, you can remove it and use your own protector. It just takes a lot of time. You can read all about it in a thread that's lying around here some place.
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I owned the original Xperia Z and loved the mobile. Reviewers all gave it some negative feedback as when they sat in the kitchen they could not see the screen from the living room due to what they called "Poor viewing angles". I found this odd and got into all sorts of trouble on one review site, Trusted reviews, where they are anything but' trusted'.
I digress. The Z came with this new 'anti shatter film' Point is within only a few days of very respectful use I could actually see tiny marks on this laminate membrane. I spoke with the Sony importer here who advised me to fit a screen protector, in some countries they where sold with the screen protectors in the box. At that time this confused me as I thought both one and the other where the same thing? Not the case at all.
The anti shatter film is fitted as when the water resistant idea was in development the designers realised that customers would use them by a pool or near water like a beach. This caused some concern as if the phone got wet it became slippery and if dropped the screen could shatter and leave shards of glass all over the place where people could cut themselves (not to mention the cost of emptying and refilling a pool). To prevent any such problem and, I guess, avoid legal action? Sony fitted the new range of water resistant devices with these anti shatter films. Great idea.............
IN PRACTCE they have proved so soft they scratch far to readily and in terms of the Ultra it would be suicide to use a pencil on that anti shatter film.
here again is Sony being innovators of great new developments yet so often dropping the ball at the last hurdle!
I have a very decent screen protector fitted on my Ultra that I always order the same time I purchase any phone, phablet or tablet. I also always purchase a decent cover to further protect the device. I would like to use them without a cover but just cannot bare to think of scratching my devices. So good looking yet the cases do hide their good looks also add greatly to the bulk.
Life is all about compromise though.
I suggest comparing the Samsung mega against the Ultra is an unfair test to start with. Size being the only common denominator. With the exception of the camera, so I am told, the Ultra is made to a higher standard in terms of materials used in construction also the other operational hardware is more advanced. I am a Samsung fan but have never been a fan boy of any brand. Its a question of purchase what satisfies ones needs and requirements. I also own the SG Note 3 and gear, they are both now boxed and in a draw ready to sell.
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[Q] Z Ultra or Nexus 5?

Hi guys.
So i've been thinking about buying either one of these devices.
i'm leaning more towards the z ultra because it's such a gorgeous device, but i don't know if i'll be able to carry it around like a regular smartphone and i've been seeing a lot of complaints about screens breaking.
i really wanted the opinion of you guys on this, how is it to use a z ultra in your daily routine, is it weird to walk around with it on your pocket?
the nexus 5 however, is a beautiful device aswell, but a 5" screen seems too small for me.
so, z ultra, might be too big and fragile?
and nexus 5, too small?
or maybe there is another device that can reach a mid-term?
pin70 said:
Hi guys.
So i've been thinking about buying either one of these devices.
i'm leaning more towards the z ultra because it's such a gorgeous device, but i don't know if i'll be able to carry it around like a regular smartphone and i've been seeing a lot of complaints about screens breaking.
i really wanted the opinion of you guys on this, how is it to use a z ultra in your daily routine, is it weird to walk around with it on your pocket?
the nexus 5 however, is a beautiful device aswell, but a 5" screen seems too small for me.
so, z ultra, might be too big and fragile?
and nexus 5, too small?
or maybe there is another device that can reach a mid-term?
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It must be only me but the last phone I carried in my pocket was a Motorola flip phone years ago. I carry the ZU in a nylon tool holster pouch that clips on to my pants pocket (it also has a belt loop but it stays on fine with clip).
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It must be only me but the last phone I carried in my pocket was a Motorola flip phone years ago. I carry the ZU in a nylon tool holster pouch that clips on to my pants pocket (it also has a belt loop but it stays on fine with clip).
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Carrying around a nylon tool holster is too ugly imo.
but i've seen a few videos and seems like it fits very well in most pants and shorts. want to know if it feels to heavy on the pocket? or weird?
pin70 said:
Carrying around a nylon tool holster is too ugly imo.
but i've seen a few videos and seems like it fits very well in most pants and shorts. want to know if it feels to heavy on the pocket? or weird?
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IN my tighter pants (with smaller pockets) it sticks out a little and is noticeable, in all my shorts and most pants it's fine. Note I have mine in a flip cover so that adds some more bulk to the ZU.
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IN my tighter pants (with smaller pockets) it sticks out a little and is noticeable, in all my shorts and most pants it's fine. Note I have mine in a flip cover so that adds some more bulk to the ZU.
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Hmm nice to know. it realy amazes me how cheap this phone got, it's cheaper than the nexus 5 and the lg g2 and it has that massive screen.
btw, i saw a review from a guy saying it uses gorila glass 3, but i don't think it does, can anyone clear that out?
and, is there a chance of the screen breaking just by using it in a mildly tight pocket ? cause i've seen a lot of posts here saying the screen is very fragile.
The Z Ultra really isn't fragile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Rf2q4b-24
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The Z Ultra really isn't fragile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Rf2q4b-24
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What about weight wise, does it weights in your pocket?
I don't find the phone to be heavy at all, especially for its size. It's freaking huge though, which can be a burden at times.
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I don't find the phone to be heavy at all, especially for its size. It's freaking huge though, which can be a burden at times.
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What times? examples please .-. so i can see if that would be a problem for me.
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What times? examples please .-. so i can see if that would be a problem for me.
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Carrying it around in your front pocket, which i do, can be uncomfortable when you're sitting down, bending, etc. I wear loose fitting jeans, and im 6-2", so it isn't too bad. This Phone is just plain huge though, and it will be a problem for some people.
Watch this video and check out this girl trying to stick it in her pocket.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...MVGWeE8wxdZZuB-8Q&sig2=Ye2WtM06Kf2ZAvFZ9XGV9Q
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Carrying it around in your front pocket, which i do, can be uncomfortable when you're sitting down, bending, etc. I wear loose fitting jeans, and im 6-2", so it isn't too bad. This Phone is just plain huge though, and it will be a problem for some people.
Watch this video and check out this girl trying to stick it in her pocket.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...MVGWeE8wxdZZuB-8Q&sig2=Ye2WtM06Kf2ZAvFZ9XGV9Q
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Hmmm. firetruck! that just made me more unsure, cause the phone is extremely cheap right now with such an amazing hardware. would you happen to know any good phone with a screen bigger than or equal to 5.5 and same hardware for the same price?
You can buy a 1+
Doesn't have to buy where i'm going to buy.
is the lg g2 or nexus 5 any good?
Wait for the nexus 6 google it i was announced today
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Wait for the nexus 6 google it i was announced today
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Can't, it'll be released in november and i'll be doing a trip at the end of this month, and i'm going to buy the phone there cause it's way cheaper than where i live.
i'm still in doubt between the lg g2, nexus 5 or the z ultra :/
I had the nexus 5 and switched over to the xzu.. I have to say given the opportunity I'd take back my Nexus 5. Don't get me wrong performance wise and price they are both on par. I've installed a ported version of the Google play edition Rom and it works perfectly well. Downside is the size of this device,, it really is massive and I bought it thinking I would get use to it eventually... 2 months on and I'm still having a hard time getting use to holding it. Also I'm not sure if this issue is wide spread but the screen on this thing is super sensitive (no screen protector). When I say sensitive I mean as in I get random presses from just about anything from screen condensation, breeze and oil smudges and it gets so annoying especially when you're trying to compose an email and it hits the send button mid way. I've even tried out a hack to reduce the screen sensitivity but it still occurs from time to time. Also coming from a Nexus line I have to say there's barely any activity or new developments in the XZU forums,,something you might want to consider if you're into customizing or flashing roms all the time.
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I had the nexus 5 and switched over to the xzu.. I have to say given the opportunity I'd take back my Nexus 5. Don't get me wrong performance wise and price they are both on par. I've installed a ported version of the Google play edition Rom and it works perfectly well. Downside is the size of this device,, it really is massive and I bought it thinking I would get use to it eventually... 2 months on and I'm still having a hard time getting use to holding it. Also I'm not sure if this issue is wide spread but the screen on this thing is super sensitive (no screen protector). When I say sensitive I mean as in I get random presses from just about anything from screen condensation, breeze and oil smudges and it gets so annoying especially when you're trying to compose an email and it hits the send button mid way. I've even tried out a hack to reduce the screen sensitivity but it still occurs from time to time. Also coming from a Nexus line I have to say there's barely any activity or new developments in the XZU forums,,something you might want to consider if you're into customizing or flashing roms all the time.
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i think i'm sticking with the z ultra afterall.
i've received a very positive review of this smartphone by a friend of mine who owns one, he says this is the best phone he ever had.
Just remove the ASF and apply a tempered glass over for reinforcement. No more ghost touches and you get the best experience.
Also you get the naked Nexus look on front without logo.
Best device I had in years and trust me I had a lot, including Nexus 5.
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bioan said:
Just remove the ASF and apply a tempered glass over for reinforcement. No more ghost touches and you get the best experience.
Also you get the naked Nexus look on front without logo.
Best device I had in years and trust me I had a lot, including Nexus 5.
Sent from my Ultra
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I'm holding on removing the ASF for now since I have to order the glass screen protector which takes about 4weeks to arrive from hongkong.
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I'm holding on removing the ASF for now since I have to order the glass screen protector which takes about 4weeks to arrive from hongkong.
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Yeah i'm going to keep the ASF until it actually starts giving me problems.
i just have one more question,
is there any difference in the z ultra GPe and the regular Z ultra?
is it only the stock android? if yes, can u get the stock android for the regular version of z ultra?

What's your best pen for Z Ultra

I'm going to use my Z Ultra for taking a notes very often. I'm wondering what item could be a nice pen substitute. I know you can use pencils, which works pretty great but I'm a little woried it would actually scratch my screen. Is anyone taking notes with ZU here? What pen are you using?
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I'm going to use my Z Ultra for taking a notes very often. I'm wondering what item could be a nice pen substitute. I know you can use pencils, which works pretty great but I'm a little woried it would actually scratch my screen. Is anyone taking notes with ZU here? What pen are you using?
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I'm using a pencil and it works fine, no need to worry about scratches.
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Pencils works suprisingly well, I have to admit that. I made my own pen, which works very well too. I created it using a wall charger and standard pen, It looks like this (attachment), i might post tutorial if anyone is interested.
Is it true that the screen will get tiny scratches no matter what pen/pencil you use?
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Is it true that the screen will get tiny scratches no matter what pen/pencil you use?
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The anti shatter film will, so it is probably best to use a 3rd party screen proctor over the ASF, a [rounded] pencil will still work
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Pencils works suprisingly well, I have to admit that. I made my own pen, which works very well too. I created it using a wall charger and standard pen, It looks like this (attachment), i might post tutorial if anyone is interested.
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With pencil it does leave some marks if you look carefully. But it can be wiped off. I am using a tempered glass cover so I do not worry about the potential damage to the original screen. Yes a pencil work fine.
Your pen looks pretty good. I am interested in a tutorial to make one for myself.
Thanks!

is the phone TOO big?

Don't get me wrong, I knew what I was getting into.......but I find myself wondering if I'm alone in thinking the phone is just too large.
-Like if it's in my pocket and I sit down to tie my shoes, the thing feels like it's under tremendous stress.....like I have an ipad in my front pocket.
-It's damn near impossible reach the pull down the notifications bar....and completely impossible to use the second screen when using one hand.
Starting to wonder if the 5 inch screen is really the sweetspot for the average sized hand.
Coming from the Galaxy Note 3, the size doesn't feel too unwieldy for me. As for the pocket thing, that kind of makes sense. it's a bit taller than most other phones, so it's going to feel massive compared to anything else in the pocket. You can actually add a "pull down notification" touch button on the home touch buttons, or use Third Party launchers like Nova and add a notification pull down widget/gesture. I agree the second screen location is nearly impossible to use with one hand, but I don't think that was it's purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu_bE7g2wqM
The phone is good for me. To get to the second screen I do a slight down shift(with one hand) of the phone to access it comfortably.
it is a long phone for sure and the display alone is bigger than my entire G3 but I am used to it now after a week. Now I wonder how people see anything on those 3.5" phones. I dont see phones getting smaller anytime soon... We're gonna need bigger hands.
Slide down gesture with Nova pull notification panel, as for 2nd screen I think it was designed for a second hand or people with 6" thumbs.
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The phone is good for me. To get to the second screen I do a slight down shift(with one hand) of the phone to access it comfortably.
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Same here.
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There is no such thing as to big.If a phone not the size you need or want don't buy it.
techrider6262 said:
There is no such thing as to big.If a phone not the size you need or want don't buy it.
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yeah.....test driving something is a bad idea too
No, I don't feel it's too big. BTW it's so close to the size of the Nexus 6P it's almost crazy, but yea that phone might be, and here is my reasoning.
Nexus feels week, I'm certain if I owned it I'd be getting a case.
LG V10 feels really solid and with the perfect sticky backing, and stainless rails I feel going with out a case is going to be no issue for me. Therefore it's the size it is.
Now if you go without a case it ends up being the same size as the last wave of phablets. It really feels a bit smaller in my hand then my note 4 with a spigen slim
I will say it definitely feels bigger than my Note 4. I have pretty big hands, but this is probably the largest I could go, maybe another inch but that would be uncomfortable.
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Jimmmycrackcorn said:
Don't get me wrong, I knew what I was getting into.......but I find myself wondering if I'm alone in thinking the phone is just too large.
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That's why i went with the g4. coming from a 4.7 incher its easier than going to a 5.9 incher.
maybe second v10 next year for me.
-Like if it's in my pocket and I sit down to tie my shoes, the thing feels like it's under tremendous stress.....like I have an ipad in my front pocket.
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exactly. not doing favours to your pants and if you have to remove this thing every time you sit down you're going to forget it some place.
G4 with a case is as wide and close to being as heavy but not as tall. Besides you can always remove the case and have the original smaler size .No way you want to use a case with the v10. tempered screen protector and that is it.
Starting to wonder if the 5 inch screen is really the sweetspot for the average sized hand.
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It is for a few people, though don't think about hand size. its more about pocket size and what you're used to. The one hand syndrome i find is more with experienced users that learnt on smaller screens and gradually adjusted up. Those that did not use smaller screens start with bigger ones.
In any case touch screens are inherently two handed in operation.
Why wouldn't you want to use a case? I purchased a Spigen case, doesn't add much size and is clear so I still see the beauty of the device. I did happen to drop it yesterday, about 4 feet onto concrete, fortunately it bounced but not even a scratch on the case, which shocked me.
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This is definitely a two hand phone. I used to see people who had "phablets" as completely ridiculous people who were overcompensating for something, and then I became one of them. (lol not because of that tho )
I like it because I do my reading on it, and it's definitely an advantage when I'm unable to carry my tablet when I go to work, it also serves well as my in car GPS since I travel a lot, and of course, you guessed it, it's much better on a big screen than a smaller one. So it's all preference if anything, but this is definitely a two handed phone for me (IE: I'm a right handed person and I can't reach the top left corner with that same hand)
I have a Nexus 6, and a Note III in addition to the V10 and I don't think it's too big.
You could just add the pull down notification bar button to the navibar.
It takes time to get used to the size, it all depends on the person, on how much time it takes though. What I do know, is that after a while with these size phones, you try going back to anything under 5.2" becomes too small..
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ggrant3876 said:
I have a Nexus 6, and a Note III in addition to the V10 and I don't think it's too big.
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IMO the Moto Nexus 6 has an awesome in the hand design / feel. The LG G4 has a very similar shape / design. I've not gotten my V10 yet, but I think is a flatter design..
Warrior1975 said:
Why wouldn't you want to use a case?
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Adds more bulk to an already large device ? otherwise I very much favour cases so long as they offer the right trade off.
I purchased a Spigen case, doesn't add much size and is clear so I still see the beauty of the device.
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This one ? How is the grip.
You lost it when you have a wonderful textured back provided by the vendor. Now it will slip out of your pocket even easier because its smooth and drop. it won't adhere to surfaces as well as naked either. Third, hard cases offer minimal shock absorption compared to softer cases.
The rugged armor looks better. See those dots on the back ? not as good as stock but better than no dots.
A grippy case works better, bigger devices need to be grippy.
screw seeing the beauty, feel is what counts. I've said the same to those who apply clear cases with a leather back.
I did happen to drop it yesterday, about 4 feet onto concrete, fortunately it bounced but not even a scratch on the case, which shocked me.
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that's the thing, without a case you'd have a ding or a dent. If you can handle the size fine, i can't. not unless i go through something in between first.
Warrior1975 said:
this is probably the largest I could go, maybe another inch but that would be uncomfortable.
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TWSS
If it's too big for one hand, use both hands. Problem solved.
Omg. These "is it to big threads" are always good for a lol

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