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OK so i just bought a Creative Zen touch 2 without doing enough research (stupid me) but for the price it's cheap. Anyway it runs Android, but the latest update is 2.2, and apparently this device has some issue with freezing (which could be RAM issues, and if I remember correctly, froyo sucked at RAM management).
As this device isn't real popular there aren't any custom ROMs that I can find. Is it really that hard for Creative to sort their issues and upgrade the systems.
I was wondering on the difficulty of making my own custom ROM, by porting from something else, another ASOP ROM maybe? Or is it just as hard as gingerbread to ICS.
Of this isn't possible I'll root the thing and just try to make the froyo ROM as light as possible.
Sorry if this is the wrong section All feedback is appreciated.
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Thanks for sharing in the above information.
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Thanks for sharing in the above information.
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There's a button for that.
Is it possible to install Android OS (GB or ICS) on iPhone 4 or iOS5?
It would be very hard as the hardware is quite different but theoretically it's possible.
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I have it dual booting on my galaxy note
AMoosa said:
I have it dual booting on my galaxy note
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You have what dual booting? iOS?
I haven't heard of it happening. Then again I have no interest in iOS so I wouldn't look for it.
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Is it possible to install Android OS (GB or ICS) on iPhone 4 or iOS5?
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There was a project (iDroid maybe? not sure if that's the name) to bring Android to iPhones, but I think the last model supported was the 3GS. It used the open source openiBoot bootloader (a replacement for Apple's) and I think that was the limiting factor in not supporting past the 3GS.
EDIT: There is a port of openiBoot to the iPhone 4 on going. More info on the whole project here: http://www.idroidproject.org - the "status" page is probably especially interesting to you.
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There was a project (iDroid maybe? not sure if that's the name) to bring Android to iPhones, but I think the last model supported was the 3GS. It used the open source openiBoot bootloader (a replacement for Apple's) and I think that was the limiting factor in not supporting past the 3GS.
EDIT: There is a port of openiBoot to the iPhone 4 on going. More info on the whole project here: http://www.idroidproject.org - the "status" page is probably especially interesting to you.
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@SifJar, the project you mentioned is interesting, but very likely dead. I happen to be in the exact same situation now and would like to do the following to an iPhone 4 which I bought and is SIM-locked:
Make a full backup of the phone and all its data on LINUX
Fully remove the SIM-lock and make it work with all providers
Completely wipe everything, especially traceable information
Install the latest possible Android, preferrably a port of AOKP
I will press the THANKS-button for every useful answer!
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@SifJar, the project you mentioned is interesting, but very likely dead. I happen to be in the exact same situation now and would like to do the following to an iPhone 4 which I bought and is SIM-locked:
Make a full backup of the phone and all its data on LINUX
Fully remove the SIM-lock and make it work with all providers
Completely wipe everything, especially traceable information
Install the latest possible Android, preferrably a port of AOKP
I will press the THANKS-button for every useful answer!
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Anyone able to answer this, please?
Not going to happen any time soon. Apple has massive lockdowns on their devices. Even if someone breaks into it that far, it will be well past the devices lifetime. I have tried the iDroid project, and even when their was work, it was very primitive and not worth actually trying to use. Don't expect an iPhone to work well in Linux any time soon (maybe ever) or be able to back up without a jailbreak.
Well that's very hard. Because apple is closed source and they have encrypted whole system. Can anybody imagine why would anybody change a iPhone to android. I mean what's the point of getting iPhone then..well you can sim locked broked. Jailbreak if you want some more functions. Just purchase a new android. You will more than apple 4S in cheap android.
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Well that's very hard. Because apple is closed source and they have encrypted whole system. Can anybody imagine why would anybody change a iPhone to android. I mean what's the point of getting iPhone then..well you can sim locked broked. Jailbreak if you want some more functions. Just purchase a new android. You will more than apple 4S in cheap android.
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Maybe I found an iPhone without a SIM card a no data on it and my brother needs a new Android phone? Thought I count 1 and 1 together..
Hmm
SecUpwN said:
Maybe I found an iPhone without a SIM card a no data on it and my brother needs a new Android phone? Thought I count 1 and 1 together..
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well then you need luck with this thing. just stick to development section i mean those are working on this kind of thing. may be one day this will happen
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Maybe I found an iPhone without a SIM card a no data on it and my brother needs a new Android phone? Thought I count 1 and 1 together..
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Then sell that iPhone and buy a good used Android phone, or maybe a cheap new one like the Motorola Moto G.
im done with this dualboot android on iphone, there will be a few tutorial on the net for install it. but only for eclair version, ima no luck for ics and jb. nway. gudluck
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Is it possible to install Android OS…on iPhone 4…?
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I, too, would like to put Android on an iPhone 4.
The iDroid Project doesn't seem to support iPhone 4, but has anyone here gotten it to work on an iPhone 4.
Will be ported Android or Windows Phone 8 on Lumia 800?
I ask because if it's impossible this phone will die
It is not possibru
But i think that with an unlocket bootloader will be possible to install android,just plug the drivers into the rom
ASDFhakunaa said:
But i think that with an unlocket bootloader will be possible to install android,just plug the drivers into the rom
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That's not how it works. You need an entirely NEW bootloader. The current one is not meant to boot the linux kernel, and you also need drivers for everything for the kernel. That we don't have. So it's very difficult but somewhat possible if worked on hard enough by the right people for a very, very, VERY, long time. So chances of it happening are slim to none
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Will be ported Android or Windows Phone 8 on Lumia 800?
I ask because if it's impossible this phone will die
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I don't think it will "die", unless you smash it against a wall or something. What benefit may an half assed Android port bring to a device like this? Look at the N9, it was cracked open but Android still sucks on it nowadays. At least WP runs great on single core devices, Android on the other hand performs quite poorly on those.
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I don't think it will "die", unless you smash it against a wall or something. What benefit may an half assed Android port bring to a device like this? Look at the N9, it was cracked open but Android still sucks on it nowadays. At least WP runs great on single core devices, Android on the other hand performs quite poorly on those.
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I want to install android not because i don't like wp,i love it but because now Microsoft done application for wp8 and i would to have new apps on my Phone like the apps that will be available for wp8 and it's why i say that it will die
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That's not how it works. You need an entirely NEW bootloader. The current one is not meant to boot the linux kernel, and you also need drivers for everything for the kernel. That we don't have. So it's very difficult but somewhat possible if worked on hard enough by the right people for a very, very, VERY, long time. So chances of it happening are slim to none
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I remember that developers started a porting of a new bootloader for this Phone,the lk bootloader that's compatible with the android kernel
Now my question is,where are those developers and this project?
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I remember that developers started a porting of a new bootloader for this Phone,the lk bootloader that's compatible with the android kernel
Now my question is,where are those developers and this project?
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I saw that. No idea if they are, but it didn't boot. All they got working was fastboot.
Hi, I'm desperately looking for any Android ROM - Cyanogenmod, MIUI, any other - doesn't matter, I just want the Android OS on my Lumia 610...Is there any option for me? Any ROM that maybe is somewhat close to my phone and is allright to install..?
Any options at all? Thank you everyone in advance...
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Hi, I'm desperately looking for any Android ROM - Cyanogenmod, MIUI, any other - doesn't matter, I just want the Android OS on my Lumia 610...Is there any option for me? Any ROM that maybe is somewhat close to my phone and is allright to install..?
Any options at all? Thank you everyone in advance...
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I am not satisfied with the 610. I am too looking for an Android for my phone.
Dude its a windows phone
-Rik[Rittik]
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Dude its a windows phone
-Rik[Rittik]
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But it runs on hardware that is fairly common to android phones. What steps would need to be taken to get to a point where we could attempt flashing a rom from a phone with similar specs?
It would be a lot easier though to just buy a $150 android phone and be done with it. ICS or jelly bean wouldn't run too well with the 256mb ram, and the 8gb (6gb) fixed storage is pretty limiting no matter what OS you are running.
dude this is some serious development stuff. there is no step by step guide or anything.
impossible, if not, it takes a LOT of development
Nokia lumia 610
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Hi, I'm desperately looking for any Android ROM - Cyanogenmod, MIUI, any other - doesn't matter, I just want the Android OS on my Lumia 610...Is there any option for me? Any ROM that maybe is somewhat close to my phone and is allright to install..?
Any options at all? Thank you everyone in advance...
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Have you found any?
Why you don't try just make a jailbreak?
I have a android ROM but i don't remenber frome where i took the´ROM the ideia was to make a dual boot i don't want to lose warranty
write me if you find something
impossible, same as porting WP to android
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But it runs on hardware that is fairly common to android phones. What steps would need to be taken to get to a point where we could attempt flashing a rom from a phone with similar specs?
It would be a lot easier though to just buy a $150 android phone and be done with it. ICS or jelly bean wouldn't run too well with the 256mb ram, and the 8gb (6gb) fixed storage is pretty limiting no matter what OS you are running.
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impossible, you dont have the drivers for the hardware.
Not impossible look at the htc hd2 it runs ANDROID and its a windows phone so it's possible but i don't think the 610 has this kind of development.
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razielpr said:
Not impossible look at the htc hd2 it runs ANDROID and its a windows phone so it's possible but i don't think the 610 has this kind of development.
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htc hd2 is windows mobile
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Not impossible look at the htc hd2 it runs ANDROID
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Yes, a lot of devs (some of them probably the best in xda) spent hours, days, months on that
try buying a linux/maemo os phone.. like n900,, n9,, can be used for dual booting,,, even htc ,, ive heard,, has a phone which can triple boot....
ROM from Nokia?
Nokia was developing Android for Lumia in secret from Elop. They were to enable installing them in 2014 when the deal with MS was ending. Does anyone have these ROMs?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...-android-phone-before-the-microsoft-purchase/
Enough is Enough!!
After seeing all the weird replies and pleas,I'd actually like to answer it in a more complete manner.....
It doesn't matter the Windows phones have similar hardware like Android devices,it's mainly about the vast difference in the OS's that achieving such a feat is close to impossible........You will have to work from ground up,Starting with
1.Creating the bootloader that supports Android
2.Creating the kernel from scratch
3.Creating drivers for everything like the touch,ril etc and make sure they are compatible with your kernel
4.Finding a flashing method for the Bootloader so that you can actully flash recoveries and ROMS
5.And finally praying to God that it works
The HTC HD2 has gone through with this process,but the thing that made development easier was the popularity of the device.....before gaining it's fame as a "Multi-OS device",it sold like hotcakes(check out it's history and you'll see)....The Lumia 610 on the other hand,doesn't have that much experienced developers to back it up.....The HD2 got even luckier as the HD7 was launched,because it had nearly identical specs.....which is the reason the legendary phone also gained the gift of WP7
If you have just skipped to the end because you got bored halfway...........You don't have enough developers to back you up
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After seeing all the weird replies and pleas,I'd actually like to answer it in a more complete manner.....
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If you have just skipped to the end because you got bored halfway...........You don't have enough developers to back you up
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LOL. yep
Good Morning to you all!
Sorry if this has already been posted but I couldn't find much of anything on this topic. Does a "Google Edition" Rom exist for the EVO 4G LTE? I know we have the AOSP and AOKP roms but this is something I've wanted to ask for a while. I love the pure Google experience and I just have to wait about a year until i can upgrade to a new phone like a Nexus.
Thank you again for taking the the time to read this and for all the awesome work all you Developers put in for making this awesome phone even better.
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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I'm with you on that one. Not sure why anyone with knowledge of rooting (who doesn't mind a voided warranty) would want to buy a GE phone.
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I don't have any problem with any AOSP Rom other than signal and connectivity issues. But its really just curiosity for me and I'm a big fan of Google so the idea of having a Google Editon EVO sounds cool to me.
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Well it won't happen.
And aosp is just as much Google as a GE would be.
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Imagine having a GE ROM that had added functionality and customizations. Then, go download one of our CM/AOKP/DU ROMs. - imagination realized.
Or, put another way, take one of our AOSP ROMs, strip away functionality and customization, and you have a GE ROM.
Is that what you're looking for?
Not trying to sound smart ass, totally sincere.
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Imagine having a GE ROM that had added functionality and customizations. Then, go download one of our CM/AOKP/DU ROMs. - imagination realized.
Or, put another way, take one of our AOSP ROMs, strip away functionality and customization, and you have a GE ROM.
Is that what you're looking for?
Not trying to sound smart ass, totally sincere.
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What do you think would be a good solid AOSP Rom to either behave like a GE Rom or better I've only tried the CM Rom and the Xlyon Rom back and forth and couldn't get the feel I was looking for.
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ZamoraDC said:
What do you think would be a good solid AOSP Rom to either behave like a GE Rom or better I've only tried the CM Rom and the Xlyon Rom back and forth and couldn't get the feel I was looking for.
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You could always try Evervolv. That's probably the closest to AOSP, that is, with the least customization.
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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How difficult is this to do?
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How difficult is this to do?
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I can't say.
For the DNA it was extremely simple (but zarboz is a boss so he would've gotten it anyway) since the two devices are almost identical (One and DNA).
But the fact that you guys have a 3.4.x official HTC kernel should help.
hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary.
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You would be surprised at what shortcuts OEMs take too.
Just because they have the resources doesn't necessarily mean it's cost effective, or that their software engineers have the time, to redo everything from scratch for each device. It's usually much easier to make it for one and then adapt that copy for use on other devices. I actually found this site thanks to htc's sloppy implementation of hdmi on the original evo. According to them it was impossible to fix until Toastcfh and Netarchy did just that and rewrote their kernel from scratch (iirc).
If you think about it, this site probably wouldn't even exist if OEMs made good software. They often do have access to proprietary drivers and documentation, but most of that is slowly getting open sourced anyway.
That type of reasoning is a fallacy because more often then not OEMs are just too plain cheap to do things properly. They just need to hit their deadlines. So your only real options are to either buy a nexus device, or invest a little time in helping fix any issues that you may find.
Someone please correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong device, but I believe it was the htc TyTN2 where htc didn't even bother to include a fully functional display driver because they didn't want to pay the license for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359534
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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Have you ever used one of the IRC builds of cm10 or cm10.1? They're more stable and are more feature rich than the stock ROM that shipped with this device or any of the updates that they were gracious enough to let sense users download over the air. The 3.0 kernel was seriously stable, but the 3.4 kernel is (nearly as) stable _and_ leaves more RAM for your silly animation effects and whatever. It's based on the reference kernel for the chip set, if I'm not making an arse of myself. So pick a build. I know 1/16 was an awesome cm10, and like I said in another topic I had 191 hours uptime on the 7/23 cm10.1 before I rebooted to rule out the ROM when I was having data issues(it was the network) </rant>
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You would be surprised at what shortcuts OEMs take too.
Just because they have the resources doesn't necessarily mean it's cost effective, or that their software engineers have the time, to redo everything from scratch for each device. It's usually much easier to make it for one and then adapt that copy for use on other devices. I actually found this site thanks to htc's sloppy implementation of hdmi on the original evo. According to them it was impossible to fix until Toastcfh and Netarchy did just that and rewrote their kernel from scratch (iirc).
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Not saying they are perfect and neither am I taking sides. But the fact of the matter is that AOSP is ported using binaries made for other devices and other hacks and so is nearly impossible to make it 100% compared to vanilla nexus roms. Issues are inevitable. And those same exact shortcuts you stated apply to and are no exception with AOSP ports like CM or evervolv. They also commonize (not a word, I know) as much as possible. They group devices like all the d2 and all the jflte, or even by processor like s4_common, etc under one common branch to make it easier for themselves to maintain.
I know I'm not gonna win here because of several things, namely being that I'm taking the "wrong" stance from the majority's point of view. But I just felt adding my 0.02 would help with the OP's original question.
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Someone please correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong device, but I believe it was the htc TyTN2 where htc didn't even bother to include a fully functional display driver because they didn't want to pay the license for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359534
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Ha! That was my first smartphone! I first signed up on xda (under a different name) when that phone launched (I got it as the att tilt) so that I could run manila and then android on it! That display driver issue was so frustrating. Sorry for ot, but I haven't thought about that in ages.
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Not saying they are perfect and neither am I taking sides. But the fact of the matter is that AOSP is ported using binaries made for other devices and other hacks and so is nearly impossible to make it 100% compared to vanilla nexus roms. Issues are inevitable. And those same exact shortcuts you stated apply to and are no exception with AOSP ports like CM or evervolv. They also commonize (not a word, I know) as much as possible. They group devices like all the d2 and all the jflte, or even by processor like s4_common, etc under one common branch to make it easier for themselves to maintain.
I know I'm not gonna win here because of several things, namely being that I'm taking the "wrong" stance from the majority's point of view. But I just felt adding my 0.02 would help with the OP's original question.
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It's not accurate to say the binaries are made for other devices when the devices are all basically the same. The MSM8960, for example, has it's own binaries, but the same chip is used in a range of devices from the Evo LTE, Blackberry Z10, One X (LTE), One XL, Windows Phone 8X, LG Mach, Moto Droid Razr M, Droid Razr, Razr Max, Atrix HD, Incredible HD, Xperia GX TL SX & V, Galaxy S III... the list goes on
The binaries all of those devices use were developed for the Qualcomm devkit I've linked below.
When you're working with a sense ROM versus an AOSP ROM there are many differences in not only appearance but the framework as well, but once you start getting down to the kernel level the hardware is all basically the same. Where we have the advantage over OEMs is that most companies know it's counterproductive and a waste of money to go after enthusiasts who borrow their binaries from one device to use on something else. If an OEM did that they would be sued in a heartbeat.
https://developer.qualcomm.com/mobile-development/development-devices/snapdragon-s4-msm8960-mdps
edit: probably actually this instead, but same difference: http://shop.intrinsyc.com/products/dragonboard-members-only
To digress back to the OP's original question though, the google edition One is basically just the one with AOSP on it. If you can find a pure AOSP ROM it'll be the exact same thing.
Thanks for the info I'm really thinking of seeing if i can try and make my own ROM and plus I've always wanted to do so hopefully it all goes well. I just don't wanna brick my phone in the process hahaha. Do you guys think trying to build off of the HTC One GE rom and convert it over to the EVO or use an EVO based AOSP ROM? Thanks again for all the help.
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Thanks for the info I'm really thinking of seeing if i can try and make my own ROM and plus I've always wanted to do so hopefully it all goes well. I just don't wanna brick my phone in the process hahaha. Do you guys think trying to build off of the HTC One GE rom and convert it over to the EVO or use an EVO based AOSP ROM? Thanks again for all the help.
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Why don't you just build AOSP? You can use the CM kernel and pull the relevant vendor files from an existing AOSP ROM (or find an up-to-date github with them).
That way you don't have to worry about having the extra customizations, but you'll still have a kernel built from Qualcomm source along with the ROM.
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I have tried a lot of ROMs and I find these devs do a much better job than stock ROMs yes you have some bugs in some but the always work them out cudos to the devs I'm just glad they still support my device and having gabe up on it