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Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Is it going to brick my phone?
Please help
xReal said:
Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Follow the instructions flash is either via Odin or CWM .
Is it going to brick my phone?
Not if its the correct kernel .
jje
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what does correct kernel mean? some kernel that has that same KG2 / kg3/ etc stuff with your stock kernel?
JJEgan said:
xReal said:
Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Follow the instructions flash is either via Odin or CWM .
Is it going to brick my phone?
Not if its the correct kernel .
jje
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How to know which kernel is correct?
As of now I am using Sensation rom which has Siyah kernel 2.5.2 and I want to flash speedmod kernel or N.E.A.K. Kernel,
N.E.A.K. Kernel only supports sammy roms
I tried to search but I could not find out if Sensation rom is aosp or sammy do you have any idea of it?
also does speedmod kernel support both as nothing it written about it on its thread
Thanks
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xReal said:
How to know which kernel is correct?
As of now I am using Sensation rom which has Siyah kernel 2.5.2 and I want to flash speedmod kernel or N.E.A.K. Kernel,
N.E.A.K. Kernel only supports sammy roms
I tried to search but I could not find out if Sensation rom is aosp or sammy do you have any idea of it?
also does speedmod kernel support both as nothing it written about it on its thread
Thanks
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Normally on the first page of a rom thread you will get a description what is the rom. For example MIUI is well MIUI. Hyperdroid is sammy deodex rom with of course modifications and tweaks in the build to make it better than stock.
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not. Siyah works basically with any rom. CM7 to AOSP to sammy deodex. Regarding Simone's kernel which is the NEAK version or something like that it is based on only sammy stock deodex roms and that is mainly the ones in original development and android..just look out for deodex, sammy and stock rom
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post .
Plus if it does not work flash another one .
the Neak kernel should be ok been on mine for a few days .
Speedmod likewise ok have used it before .
jje
Thanks everyone for their wonderful help!
I have got one last question
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
does this means it will not work with sensation rom?
Edit: ok looks like the different versions are just the updated ones
But still the question is if it supports sensation rom?
xReal said:
Thanks everyone for their wonderful help!
I have got one last question
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
does this means it will not work with sensation rom?
Edit: ok looks like the different versions are just the updated ones
But still the question is if it supports sensation rom?
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DroidTrix said:
Normally on the first page of a rom thread you will get a description what is the rom. For example MIUI is well MIUI. Hyperdroid is sammy deodex rom with of course modifications and tweaks in the build to make it better than stock.
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not. Siyah works basically with any rom. CM7 to AOSP to sammy deodex. Regarding Simone's kernel which is the NEAK version or something like that it is based on only sammy stock deodex roms and that is mainly the ones in original development and android..just look out for deodex, sammy and stock rom
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JJEgan said:
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post .
Plus if it does not work flash another one .
the Neak kernel should be ok been on mine for a few days .
Speedmod likewise ok have used it before .
jje
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Dude. Did you even read these two responses from DroidTrix and JJEgan?
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Dude. Did you even read these two responses from DroidTrix and JJEgan?
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Yes indeed I have.
Am I missing anything?
Please elaborate your reply
Also please keep in mind that I have no experience of this so It might be a bit difficult for me to understand
xReal said:
Yes indeed I have.
Am I missing anything?
Please elaborate your reply
Also please keep in mind that I have no experience of this so It might be a bit difficult for me to understand
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*sigh*
Ok.
DroidTrix said:
DroidTrix said:
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not.
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"Sammy deodex" means that the the ROM is based on Samsung stock.
DroidTrix ALSO said:
DroidTrix said:
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not.
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AND, JJEgan said:
JJEgan said:
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post.
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You yourself said:
xReal said:
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
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Now, if you look at the VERY FIRST page for SensatioN ROM,, it says:
SensatioN ROM Features:
-Based on Samsung Firmware XWKK5 Android 2.3.6
With all of this information, you should be able to deduce that the Speedmod kernel WILL work with your ROM. If you still don't understand, I'm going to suggest you don't flash anything to your phone, for fear of ending up with a paperweight.
Ok this time I understand everything
I didn't knew that Sammy roms means that the ROM is based on Samsung's stock ROM
Also I thought that speedmod only works on stock ROM so all this things got me confused
But anyways now its all clear
xReal said:
Ok this time I understand everything
I didn't knew that Sammy roms means that the ROM is based on Samsung's stock ROM
Also I thought that speedmod only works on stock ROM so all this things got me confused
But anyways now its all clear
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Sammy is short for Samsung.
Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
We only have 2 options, Entropy or Siyah and they do not include a modem.
Check the dev section for kernels & modems.
butikofer08 said:
Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
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Both kernels we have offer oc abilities.
Personally I would look at stability and battery life but that is just me. Try both and see which suits your needs.
Modems are not associated with kernel and depend on your area. Whichever works the best where you are.
We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
butikofer08 said:
So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
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Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
LiLChris06 said:
Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
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Thanks for the quick response chris,
I guess what I'm asking is if I have a rom with the Syiah kernal, is it possible to keep that same ROM but swap kernals, sorry, I just wasn't clear on what your answer meant.
I'm guessing your saying it is indeed possible and just flash the .zip for a different Kernal on top of an already installed ROM.
Sorry, I'm tired...
Changing the Kernel on 2.3.4 & 2.3.6 roms will not break anything.
For CM7, CM9, MIUI etc you have to stick with what is included or see what works with it.
AntwanL said:
We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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For example, latest Siyah with touch recovery. Awesome for flashaholics.
Your talking of version .14 I assume, if so, doesn't it say in .13 description that .13 would be the last for Gingerbread?
Obviously it works if your using it, so i'm gonna download now...
Short: I encrypted my SD-card and didn't think of decrypting it before I flashed a custom rom. Can I get my files back?
2. Do you flash a kernel before or after installing a ROM? I flashed the kernel b4, seems to work but is there any possible issues?
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Story:
Encryped SD-card, flashed kernel and installed [ROM]LiquidSmooth-JellyBean v2.0 RC3.
Seems to work just fine but of course I can not access my files.
If you flash the kernel before the Rom it will be replaced by the rom's one. ...
Damien74 said:
2. Do you flash a kernel before or after installing a ROM? I flashed the kernel b4, seems to work but is there any possible issues?
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You do not flash a kernel unless you want to change a kernel .
Flash a firmware over a kernel wipes that kernel .
jje
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Ah I see.
Well. I would want to if there is one better of course.
But perhaps there are features in the kernel that the ROM depends upon? But that question is better put in the thread of the particular ROM of course.
I'll look into that, thanks.
Any takes on the encryption problem?
Damien74 said:
Ah I see.
Well. I would want to if there is one better of course.
But perhaps there are features in the kernel that the ROM depends upon? But that question is better put in the thread of the particular ROM of course.
I'll look into that, thanks.
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Again no the the rom developer will pick what they think is the best kernel . You are at liberty to try other kernels .
jje
hello all seached around for this but got lost,ive just geared up dual boot jellybam primary and ics stock on secondary, what id like to know is if i8 flash another rom for secondary will it install its own kernal and make me loose siyah and dual boot setup? thanx anyone
xmanz said:
hello all seached around for this but got lost,ive just geared up dual boot jellybam primary and ics stock on secondary, what id like to know is if i8 flash another rom for secondary will it install its own kernal and make me loose siyah and dual boot setup? thanx anyone
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No, your kernel won't be touched. Just make sure it's possible to flash the new second rom with the Siyah kernel you use right now.
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thanx
Thank you for the answer btw any rom recommendations for siyah?
Donnie Sins said:
No, your kernel won't be touched. Just make sure it's possible to flash the new second rom with the Siyah kernel you use right now.
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xmanz said:
Thank you for the answer btw any rom recommendations for siyah?
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Well that obviously depends on which version of Siyah you want to use as they all support different bases.
You would be much better off finding a rom you like and then flashing the appropriate Siyah kernel for it. However you can start off on any kernel version you like as custom rom will replace with its own kernel anyway so just flash Siyah again afterwards.
Also please note that this type of question is not allowed for various reason.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881
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Ok i wasnt asking for the best rom etc as i know the rules) i just wanted to cut my options down a little,atm im on siyah vsync 5.. but if you say the custom rom will reflah kernal,, havnt i then lost my dual boot ive set up? thanx
TheATHEiST said:
Well that obviously depends on which version of Siyah you want to use as they all support different bases.
You would be much better off finding a rom you like and then flashing the appropriate Siyah kernel for it. However you can start off on any kernel version you like as custom rom will replace with its own kernel anyway so just flash Siyah again afterwards.
Also please note that this type of question is not allowed for various reason.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881
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xmanz said:
Ok i wasnt asking for the best rom etc as i know the rules) i just wanted to cut my options down a little,atm im on siyah vsync 5.. but if you say the custom rom will reflah kernal,, havnt i then lost my dual boot ive set up? thanx
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Only of you flash it as first rom.
xmanz said:
Ok i wasnt asking for the best rom etc as i know the rules) i just wanted to cut my options down a little,atm im on siyah vsync 5.. but if you say the custom rom will reflah kernal,, havnt i then lost my dual boot ive set up? thanx
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Flashing another 1st rom will 'replace' your kernel. If you flash a new 2nd rom, the current kernel won't be replaced. Clear?
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Ok got it very clear thanx
Donnie Sins said:
Flashing another 1st rom will 'replace' your kernel. If you flash a new 2nd rom, the current kernel won't be replaced. Clear?
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My Rom is Rasbeanjelly
first , i have to say its the most stable rom !
i have Paranoid and Rotbox and a its much better rom (without offense , just my opinion).
sure a less options , but too much options its not always advantage... so thanks for that.
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I have a question now... i am still new on android area , and the developer wrote after we the ROM i need to flash a Karnel
name Trinty , i have no idea how to do that, where to download that karnel , and what's happened if I just flash the Rom
without the kernal (what I just did), or if I can flash it now without format my all system and do the process again...
thanks a lot guys.
tzur87 said:
My Rom is Rasbeanjelly
first , i have to say its the most stable rom !
i have Paranoid and Rotbox and a its much better rom (without offense , just my opinion).
sure a less options , but too much options its not always advantage... so thanks for that.
question
I have a question now... i am still new on android area , and the developer wrote after we the ROM i need to flash a Karnel
name Trinty , i have no idea how to do that, where to download that karnel , and what's happened if I just flash the Rom
without the kernal (what I just did), or if I can flash it now without format my all system and do the process again...
thanks a lot guys.
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You flash the kernel just like the rom, AFTER you flash the rom. You can find the trinity kernel in the original development area.
You can flash the kernel anytime, you don't have to flash the rom again, just clean cache+dalvik cache after you flash the kernel.
thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A
lvnatic said:
You flash the kernel just like the rom, AFTER you flash the rom. You can find the trinity kernel in the original development area.
You can flash the kernel anytime, you don't have to flash the rom again, just clean cache+dalvik cache after you flash the kernel.
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thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A BUILT KERNEL...
SO WHY I HAVE TO FLASH IT AGAIN?
AND WHAT ABOUT ALL MY APPS AND STUFF? THEY ALL WIPE?
tzur87 said:
thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A BUILT KERNEL...
SO WHY I HAVE TO FLASH IT AGAIN?
AND WHAT ABOUT ALL MY APPS AND STUFF? THEY ALL WIPE?
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Yes, all ROMs come with a kernel. Most of them come with the stock kernel from samsung. Trinity, ktmanta, franco and others are custom kernels, based on those from samsung but with some small modifications for performance and battery life.
I'm not an expert in android coding, not even close, but from what I understood so far kernels are some kind of drivers for the CPU, GPU and the other hardware parts like bluetooth, gps and so on.
Short story: with custom kernels you can overclock the cpu or gpu, adjust the voltages etc.
Trinity kernel is a good choice, flash it and dont chage anything.
Nothing will be wiped.
thanks... but if i dont know how to change my
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
lvnatic said:
Yes, all ROMs come with a kernel. Most of them come with the stock kernel from samsung. Trinity, ktmanta, franco and others are custom kernels, based on those from samsung but with some small modifications for performance and battery life.
I'm not an expert in android coding, not even close, but from what I understood so far kernels are some kind of drivers for the CPU, GPU and the other hardware parts like bluetooth, gps and so on.
Short story: with custom kernels you can overclock the cpu or gpu, adjust the voltages etc.
Trinity kernel is a good choice, flash it and dont chage anything.
Nothing will be wiped.
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tzur87 said:
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
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It really depends on what you want out of your device/ROM. KTManta lets you hand-set a lot of tweaks, but also benchmarks just a smidge slower than other ROMs, for example, while Trinity is fairly fast.
tzur87 said:
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
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Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
I dont know what do you ...
d2mac said:
Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
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d2mac said:
Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
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No. It's an issue with Android 4.2 from what I understand
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Which kernel had the longest battery life without making any tweaks?
Thanks.
Trinity
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Sensamic said:
Which kernel had the longest battery life without making any tweaks?
Thanks.
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There's a thread in here somewhere about just that. Have a search at it, although there's really no one kernel that's "best"-- they'll all interact with your ROM of choice, so it becomes a kernel/ROM combo to look at. Personally, Carbon's stock kernel does best by me.
@samwheat Oh look, the person who complains about how atrocious his battery life is and how it's all the device's fault is back to try and recommend kernels and ROMs to users.
for a lot of modification, KTManta is your best choice I think.