Like the title says, I wanted to know which had the better radio, the LTEvo 4G or the Galaxy S3? Same Question for the One and the Galaxy S4? My discount is coming up and I'm starting to think about what the One+ (or One 2 or M8, whatever they call it) and the S5
Generally speaking, I've preferred HTC's phones, but if Samsung radios are significantly better, I may have to leave
My brother has a one and he will have 4G sittin in the house and I wont. I'd get the M8 though lol. Don't leave HTC!
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For voice, they are about even. For data, the S3 tends to pull a stronger signal. My wife has the S3, and she is constantly on 4g while at home, while my phone would either stay on 3g, move slower than molasses, or not move at all while connected. The LTE chip is literally my only real complaint about this phone. However, Sense runs better than TouchWiz, in my opinion.
The choice to stay or leave is up to you, but don't make data the reason for you to leave, unless you must.
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Sorry, wasn't specific, I was asking about the voice signal, my parents live in the boonies, and I work boonies adjacent
I hate TouchWiz where as Sense has always been my favorite and generally prefer the hardware and form that HTC has, but voice reception is going to be my key purchase point in the next phone
The LTE chip is literally my only real complaint about this phone.
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Do you know if they fixed the LTE chip in the One?
From what I have heard, yes. The LTE chip is much better. Still not as good as the S4, but that's what you get for aluminum vs plastic. About the voice...I never had any issues with signal, and neither does my wife with her S3. It seems about equal, but I will check a few signal apps on both and compare them.
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How do you think the Samsung Charge will stack up to the competition? Not that exciting next to other Verizon upcoming LTE enabled devices? Or better than the rest?
Its a galaxy s with a better screen. It has the same internals. The thunderbolt has a better processor and a decent screen. The bionic is going to be a dual core monster and the sgs2 will be out later with the best of all worlds. The charge is a last generation smart phone with a new screen. I wouldnt put my money on it winning any contests.
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Do we know if SGS2 will have LTE modem in it? I hope it does, but the only confirmed model of SGS2 is for AT&T currently. SGS2 4G will make my year.
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Do we know if SGS2 will have LTE modem in it? I hope it does, but the only confirmed model of SGS2 is for AT&T currently. SGS2 4G will make my year.
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Well there is a screen shot somewhere showing SGS2 coming to VZW but thats not a lot to go on. Still, I can't imagine they would ignore the VZW market. Likely they will just be months behind, the way the fascinate was to the captivate
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The SGSII will probably on every carrier, seeing as how well that went for the original Galaxy S.
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Am curious whether the SGS II will have Qi (wireless charging) or not
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The SGSII will probably on every carrier, seeing as how well that went for the original Galaxy S.
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This generation is different, though. Verizon, and only Verizon, is pursuing LTE for its next-gen data -- since EVDO sucks and is deeply limited. And since Voice over LTE (VoLTE, which is why I guess all the Verizon 4G phones have the lightning motif) doesn't exist yet and you need 1x and 3G data for full coverage anyway, this means that Verizon models will need two separate radios instead of just being able to swap the GSM chip for the CDMA chip. LTE is even bulkier than WiMax, because it requires a SIM card and MIMO as well.
So while AT&T and T-Mo (if the latter continues to exist) will get something basically equivalent to the SGS2, Verizon and Sprint will end up with a bigger form factor -- like the Epic or Charge. And we'll have to wait a while this time too.
AT&T is going to HSPA+ short term for "4G" and LTE is their long term plan, so they'll need the same LTE radio as VZW phones when they decide to start up their LTE network and phones/devices.
I'm waiting.
If I go 4G, I want more than just 4G. I want dual core, good battery, front camera, better screen, hdmi out, etc.
Since LTE is so new, I may wait a year anyways. I may pick up the Sony Xperia Play so I can have the latest Android with all the above except 4G while adding real game controls.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/02/droid-charge-review/?m=false
They did an ok review. Seems like a Fascinate with 4G.
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superchunkwii said:
I'm waiting.
If I go 4G, I want more than just 4G. I want dual core, good battery, front camera, better screen, hdmi out, etc.
Since LTE is so new, I may wait a year anyways. I may pick up the Sony Xperia Play so I can have the latest Android with all the above except 4G while adding real game controls.
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It is my understanding that 1st year LTE phones will be like 1st year 3G phones; horrible battery life. Reference the Thunderbolt lol
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It is my understanding that 1st year LTE phones will be like 1st year 3G phones; horrible battery life. Reference the Thunderbolt lol
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The reviews say the Charge actually has good battery and kills the TB on that.
So why no Charge section at XDA again?
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So why no Charge section at XDA again?
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Its probably because it hasn't officially started selling in stores.
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Phone looks great no doubt. But as a gnex user.. same Android OS, don't see the need to change for the most part. The one thing that could sway me is the 4g radio which my nexus sucks with. 4g radios eat battery and Samsung 4g radios can barely hold 4g
Surprised we went from single to dual to quad cores before the next lte radio. Hope the 4g radio in this phone is better than the gnex
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Phone looks great no doubt. But as a gnex user.. same Android OS, don't see the need to change for the most part. The one thing that could sway me is the 4g radio which my nexus sucks with. 4g radios eat battery and Samsung 4g radios can barely hold 4g
Surprised we went from single to dual to quad cores before the next lte radio. Hope the 4g radio in this phone is better than the gnex
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That's mainly a Verizon problem because of its CDMA network. All LTE phones on Verizon has to maintain two radio interfaces open all the time: one for CDMA for voice and one for LTE for data. Until Verizon switches over to VoLTE (not anytime soon), you will have to suffer with that for all future LTE phones.
If you want to see how 2nd gen LTE phone works, look no further than all current AT&T LTE phones where phones only need to maintain one radio interface on. When voice call is activated, the phone automatically falls back to HSPA mode.
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That's mainly a Verizon problem because of its CDMA network. All LTE phones on Verizon has to maintain two radio interfaces open all the time: one for CDMA for voice and one for LTE for data. Until Verizon switches over to VoLTE (not anytime soon), you will have to suffer with that for all future LTE phones.
If you want to see how 2nd gen LTE phone works, look no further than all current AT&T LTE phones where phones only need to maintain one radio interface on. When voice call is activated, the phone automatically falls back to HSPA mode.
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Nope. I had a thunderbolt. Held. 4g everywhere like glue. My gnex can't even hold 4g in my room where the TB pulled 20+ on speed tests
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Nope. I had a thunderbolt. Held. 4g everywhere like glue. My gnex can't even hold 4g in my room where the TB pulled 20+ on speed tests
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Ok, I see where you are going. What I'm talking about is battery life on LTE phones which is the biggest problem on all LTE phones, not the speed. TB is notorous for poor battery life. As for signal strength, from what I heard, it is actually a discrepency between GB (what your TB is on) and ICS (what your GN is on). Basically, GB reports CDMA signal strength while ICS reports LTE signal strength.I have couple friends with TBs and their phone don't exactly holding on to LTE signals like you said. They lost LTE signal when office door closes
I'm a Sprint user in dire need of the SVDO feature, simultaneous voice and 3G data.
I am searching for a phone I can buy on eBay at a decent price to tide me over for up to 6 months, so that I can preserve my upgrade for something like the Samsung S4 or similar later this year. The HTC EVO LTE sells for $100-150 cheaper than the Samsung S3 on average. I would be inclined to get the EVO LTE if I could snatch one up for sub $200 (many are selling this cheaply already), but I would like some input from current users.
The main reason I would get either the EVO LTE or S3 is for simultaneous voice and 3G data. I spend a lot of time on the road and it's a feature I am very reliant on.
Some of the questions I have are:
1. Does the data connection maintain 3G at all times, or does it knock back to 1x? (Forgive me, I'm not familiar with the tech behind SVDO to know if this is possible.)
2. Is there a source for replacement batteries at a fair price (realizing it takes a little know-how to replace the battery on this device)?
3. Would you suggest I pony up the extra $100-150 to get the Samsung S3, based on your experience?
Thank you for your input.
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I'm a Sprint user in dire need of the SVDO feature, simultaneous voice and 3G data.
I am searching for a phone I can buy on eBay at a decent price to tide me over for up to 6 months, so that I can preserve my upgrade for something like the Samsung S4 or similar later this year. The HTC EVO LTE sells for $100-150 cheaper than the Samsung S3 on average. I would be inclined to get the EVO LTE if I could snatch one up for sub $200 (many are selling this cheaply already), but I would like some input from current users.
The main reason I would get either the EVO LTE or S3 is for simultaneous voice and 3G data. I spend a lot of time on the road and it's a feature I am very reliant on.
Some of the questions I have are:
1. Does the data connection maintain 3G at all times, or does it knock back to 1x? (Forgive me, I'm not familiar with the tech behind SVDO to know if this is possible.)
2. Is there a source for replacement batteries at a fair price (realizing it takes a little know-how to replace the battery on this device)?
3. Would you suggest I pony up the extra $100-150 to get the Samsung S3, based on your experience?
Thank you for your input.
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They are both great phones ... If you are planning to upgrade soon either will do the job well. 3g/4g stays consistent on a call and will not drop to 1x unless their is bad signal. Only issue you will have is battery life which both are roughly the same but one has a removable battery and the other doesn't. Jellybean did wonders for the EVO imo very smooth I have had no issues. I have owned the s3 and I loved it just as much but I love the build one the EVO so my wife has the s3 now.
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3g/4g stays consistent on a call and will not drop to 1x unless their is bad signal.
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So it can revert to 1x? Is there a way to force it to remain 3G only?
I had a Touch Pro 2 and I could force it to remain EVDO connection and never revert to 1X (this prevented any phone calls or texts from arriving, but it was nice if you needed to keep the connection fast).
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So it can revert to 1x? Is there a way to force it to remain 3G only?
I had a Touch Pro 2 and I could force it to remain EVDO connection and never revert to 1X (this prevented any phone calls or texts from arriving, but it was nice if you needed to keep the connection fast).
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It will stay on 3g all the time or 4g all the time unless you are in an area with ****ty connection you can't force a ****ty connection to get better... The towers controll what connection you will receive.
Edit: you will not loose conection if you get a call also if you are downloading something it will not stop from downloading while on a call
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So it can revert to 1x? Is there a way to force it to remain 3G only?
I had a Touch Pro 2 and I could force it to remain EVDO connection and never revert to 1X (this prevented any phone calls or texts from arriving, but it was nice if you needed to keep the connection fast).
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You can't force it to remain 3G if there is no EVDO signal. Hence why NORCALkID said it will revert to 1x with bad signal.
If you are always in strong 3G/4G coverage you won't have an issue. I haven't had an issue with my EVO LTE and using SVDO the rare couple of times I've actually used it. Worked great on 3G and 4G.
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If you are always in strong 3G/4G coverage you won't have an issue.
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I guess that is a unique feature to my Touch Pro 2 (also with my touch pro, and the mogul before that). I was able to force it to cling to the EVDO signal (all the way down to one bar) and never drop to 1X.
Thank you for the replies.
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I guess that is a unique feature to my Touch Pro 2 (also with my touch pro, and the mogul before that). I was able to force it to cling to the EVDO signal (all the way down to one bar) and never drop to 1X.
Thank you for the replies.
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U can do that with any android. But if there isn't any 3g in the area u get no signal at all u get the X
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moovius said:
I'm a Sprint user in dire need of the SVDO feature, simultaneous voice and 3G data.
I am searching for a phone I can buy on eBay at a decent price to tide me over for up to 6 months, so that I can preserve my upgrade for something like the Samsung S4 or similar later this year. The HTC EVO LTE sells for $100-150 cheaper than the Samsung S3 on average. I would be inclined to get the EVO LTE if I could snatch one up for sub $200 (many are selling this cheaply already), but I would like some input from current users.
The main reason I would get either the EVO LTE or S3 is for simultaneous voice and 3G data. I spend a lot of time on the road and it's a feature I am very reliant on.
Some of the questions I have are:
1. Does the data connection maintain 3G at all times, or does it knock back to 1x? (Forgive me, I'm not familiar with the tech behind SVDO to know if this is possible.)
2. Is there a source for replacement batteries at a fair price (realizing it takes a little know-how to replace the battery on this device)?
3. Would you suggest I pony up the extra $100-150 to get the Samsung S3, based on your experience?
Thank you for your input.
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I just bought an evo lte off of ebay to hold me over about 6-7 months as well lol
looks like im not the only one
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U can do that with any android. But if there isn't any 3g in the area u get no signal at all u get the X
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How do you force that with android on the EVO LTE? Is it an app? Yeah I get 2-3 bar 3G signal, so I'm not having issues there. I force 3G fine on my current Touch Pro 2.
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I just bought an evo lte off of ebay to hold me over about 6-7 months as well lol
looks like im not the only one
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Yep. I kept thinking s3's would drop in price, but they are holding fast at around $350. The EVO LTE's are dropping to sub $200. If I could get a decent s3 at around $225-250 I'd possibly get that, but I don't see that happening for a few months at least.
I have a follow-up question:
On my touch pro 2, I can dial ##778# and force the radio to HDR only. On my TP2, this locks me onto the 3G signal and it never drops to 1x. This comes in handy for long downloads and any other situation that would require a constant uninterrupted data connection. The only negative being, I can't receive incoming calls or texts while it's in HDR only mode.
Will HDR only mode with the EVO LTE prevent any incoming calls or texts? I'm just wondering because SVDO is supposed to be able to handle voice calls simultaneously while 3g or 1x data is running (not interested in LTE since we don't have that in my area). I'm just uncertain how HDR only mode would affect the SVDO feature.
What happens if I have it in HDR only mode and I try to make a call out? Will it maintain the 3G connection with the voice going on simultaneously?
So I've been using the Galaxy S4 for a little over 3 weeks. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt which was rooted and updated with its radios.
I travel a lot for work and go to the same locations (different days) every now and then. I've noticed that I lose my 4G connection and go to 3G when I USED TO have a 4G connection at the same site with my Thunderbolt. Has anyone noticed this occuring with their S4?
I feel like I'm not getting the signals I'm supposed to be getting.
I had a Razr HD before the s4 that i have now and the HD was known for its very good radios. To my surprise, the S4's radios are on par or even better than the Hd
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I had a Razr HD before the s4 that i have now and the HD was known for its very good radios. To my surprise, the S4's radios are on par or even better than the Hd
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I came from Mot Razr Maxx...worrying most about radio performance in buying the S4. The S4 does better in every regard......contrary to my old samsung phone experience (very old). I live in a fringe area with 1 bar or so.....on both phones. The S4 holds on to calls very well too.
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So I've been using the Galaxy S4 for a little over 3 weeks. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt which was rooted and updated with its radios.
I travel a lot for work and go to the same locations (different days) every now and then. I've noticed that I lose my 4G connection and go to 3G when I USED TO have a 4G connection at the same site with my Thunderbolt. Has anyone noticed this occuring with their S4?
I feel like I'm not getting the signals I'm supposed to be getting.
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yes!!!! i came from a gnexus and then an iphone 5, and ive noticed that the radios arent as good. I was also able to customize the radios on the nexus the way i wanted to for 3g and 4g... but it seems to be worse on the galaxy s4
i dont know if radios came out for the GS3, but im hoping that with time, some will come out for this thing... and not the fm radios that i keep seeing
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jt25741 said:
I came from Mot Razr Maxx...worrying most about radio performance in buying the S4. The S4 does better in every regard......contrary to my old samsung phone experience (very old). I live in a fringe area with 1 bar or so.....on both phones. The S4 holds on to calls very well too.
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It could be carrier specific.....for VZW this has been my experience.
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It could be carrier specific.....for VZW this has been my experience.
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ehh, ive been on verizon for over 15 years.... and at my specific work for 7 years. I'd say i got the best cell signal with the iphone 5 (dont shoot me), but the gnexus is a close second.
i work in the middle of my building where there is barely any signal, so i kind of know what its like to move the phone an arm length up and finally send a text
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ehh, ive been on verizon for over 15 years.... and at my specific work for 7 years. I'd say i got the best cell signal with the iphone 5 (dont shoot me), but the gnexus is a close second.
i work in the middle of my building where there is barely any signal, so i kind of know what its like to move the phone an arm length up and finally send a text
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Interesting.....good to know. I guess this means these Motorola phones really didn't have good RF performance after all (despite reputation).....compared to iPhone etc.... All is relative I guess -- LoL
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Interesting.....good to know. I guess this means these Motorola phones really didn't have good RF performance after all (despite reputation).....compared to iPhone etc.... All is relative I guess -- LoL
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hahaha... not compared completely to iphone. I mean, in all honesty, i was able to get that one text message without having to worry; but noticed it when my messages weren't going through.
ON the other hand, my friend with a motorola can get a text message the next seat over which is only an armlength away
I had a thunderbolt, an it would always show 4g until I went to use it, then I would get no connection, and eventually it would drop to 3g. I think this phone just hands of the connection faster and smoother than the thunderbolt, and thats what you're seeing.
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I had a thunderbolt, an it would always show 4g until I went to use it, then I would get no connection, and eventually it would drop to 3g. I think this phone just hands of the connection faster and smoother than the thunderbolt, and thats what you're seeing.
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This was also the case for me sometimes with the Thunderbolt. But then again, most of the time I was showing 4G at most locations.
I've seen just the opposite, I've got the S4 and my wife has the Razr Maxx, and she's usually got one to two bars better then I do. It's pretty often when in a building I get bumped down to 3G but the Razr is still hanging on to one or two bars 4G. I haven't been too surprised as this is almost exactly the same signals as what I was seeing with my Galaxy Nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322975
I get significantly better signal with the S4 than I did with the S3. In my house, I can have great phone calls and decent 4G data speed on the S4 (2 bars). On the S3, I had slow speed on 4G and an occasional breakup on phone calls (1 bar). On the Galaxy Nexus, it couldn't connect to the phone network at all from inside the house (x on the signal strength)... A friends RAZR MAXX gets 2 bars and has the same performance as the S4. My bosses Note 2 gets the same experience as my S4...
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I get significantly better signal with the S4 than I did with the S3. In my house, I can have great phone calls and decent 4G data speed on the S4 (2 bars). On the S3, I had slow speed on 4G and an occasional breakup on phone calls (1 bar). On the Galaxy Nexus, it couldn't connect to the phone network at all from inside the house (x on the signal strength)... A friends RAZR MAXX gets 2 bars and has the same performance as the S4. My bosses Note 2 gets the same experience as my S4...
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I had an S3 also and while at work I would lose 4G all the time. With my S4 I have never lost 4G at work.
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I'm considering making the move from Sprint to T-Mobile. I have the HTC One and I really like it, but the phone is not the greatest at maintaining an LTE signal, similar to how the Evo LTE was. I've read on here that the One on Verizon also has this issue. Since T-Mo is GSM, is the One on T-Mobile the same compared to other LTE phones on T-Mobile, or does it also not maintain an LTE signal as well as its counterparts?
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I'm considering making the move from Sprint to T-Mobile. I have the HTC One and I really like it, but the phone is not the greatest at maintaining an LTE signal, similar to how the Evo LTE was. I've read on here that the One on Verizon also has this issue. Since T-Mo is GSM, is the One on T-Mobile the same compared to other LTE phones on T-Mobile, or does it also not maintain an LTE signal as well as its counterparts?
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To be honest I've never really had problems with my lte service but that's not until I updated to latest radio
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To be honest I've never really had problems with my lte service but that's not until I updated to latest radio
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Yea I saw that there was an update a couple of months ago that addressed LTE issues. Is that the latest radio update that you're referring to?
I have the phone for over a month. I'm in a strong LTE area. I've had zero issues.
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That's great to hear. I was concerned that the phone had issues holding it and would instead fall back to HSPA+ when the signal became weak.
Definitely not as good at maintaining lte as nexus 4 or s4, or even iPhone 5. The update changed the way lte is read, meaning, you will have more bars. But, as far as helping actual reception, it does not. You'll drop lte in all same areas.
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That might be market specific.
My TMO ONE is so much better with LTE after the .11 update.
It is as good if not better then my Note 2 and Nexus 4. I rotate between them but lately been finding my self liking the One a lot better..
Well the only thing I have to compare it to is my wife's S4. So far they seem about the same. And I guess if anything I can jump to something else in 6 months. What I don't like is when the signal is weak-ish, it drops the data connection. Just like my One on Sprint did. What's bothersome is that other phones don't seem to do this... Just the One.
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Yes, the data signal is not as good as the S4 at all. It's definitely noticeable however the voice recognition works infinitely better than the S4 so the tradeoff is fine for me.
My coverage and signal are vastly better with latest radio I flashed...I went through 5 or 6 different radios until I found this one. Of course different radios may perform better for you, but the best for me is:
4A.17.3250.20_10.40.1150.04l
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