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Any news on CM or AOSP for this device? TW is pissing me off, I'm not expecting the ROM to be ready right now but are there plans at all?
This might be the reason I run to the htc m8... I want some aosp.. I want some smooth ness.... I'm still Within my 14 days...
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This might be the reason I run to the htc m8... I want some aosp.. I want some smooth ness.... I'm still Within my 14 days...
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That ship has sailed for me though, I've tripped Knox and I don't want to risk sending it back. There is a chance I'll be able to trade straight up someone on Craigs list for an M8 but I can't return to TMO.
Well around here they don't check for Knox.... so I was thinking of tripping it, and installing xposed installer and see if by debloating it would be snappier and if I like it... then up stay with it but texting with one hand is hard...
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Well around here they don't check for Knox.... so I was thinking of tripping it, and installing xposed installer and see if by debloating it would be snappier and if I like it... then up stay with it but texting with one hand is hard...
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I tried the two international ROMS floating around and they're laggy compared to the stock .tar in the General section. All I did was delete almost all of the Samsung apps and while it is smooth, TW is just too cartoonish and icon oriented. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and i prefer simple, clean menus with little to no animations going on. I still have my N5 and I'm doing everything I can to NOT use the damn thing because I don't want to feel I've wasted money on the S5.
If after a couple of weeks and still no AOSP anything, I'll probably be getting rid of the device.
Oh, I've been using Xposed with Gravitybox since the day I got it which was on the 10th. I turned off the touch button LED's and use the NAV bar that comes with Gravitybox.
CM and other AOSP builds will be ready as soon as they're ready.
It's a new device and bringup/addition usually takes some time.
Rest assured it will be widely known when it's available - and T-Mo is usually first up.
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CM and other AOSP builds will be ready as soon as they're ready.
It's a new device and bringup/addition usually takes some time.
Rest assured it will be widely known when it's available - and T-Mo is usually first up.
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I was checking the CM website and their "week of" column didn't even include the release of the S5, but it mentioned the M8...so I'm curious if they're even going to work on it. It would be strange if they didnt, since the Galaxy S series is arguably the most popular phone among casual users and a fair deal of flasher.
I can't wait either. It's just been a day with TW, and already I can't stand it. Hope to see Liquidsmooth or Beanstalk on it soon. They're already working on Liquidsmooth for the M8.
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I was checking the CM website and their "week of" column didn't even include the release of the S5, but it mentioned the M8...so I'm curious if they're even going to work on it. It would be strange if they didnt, since the Galaxy S series is arguably the most popular phone among casual users and a fair deal of flasher.
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They get almost every flagship device - and Cyanogen usually does the T-Mo bringups himself like he did with S4 and Note 3.
So yeah... I don't think you have much to worry about in it coming. Just a matter of time...
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They get almost every flagship device - and Cyanogen usually does the T-Mo bringups himself like he did with S4 and Note 3.
So yeah... I don't think you have much to worry about in it coming. Just a matter of time...
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Yea, here's to hoping! I still have the Nexus 5 to keep me busy if i really wanted to screw around with AOSP, anyway.
Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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Here's the link for more information! CONGRATS HUAWEI!!!
http://bit.ly/1HuK1jc
thanks
thanks for posting the link, as you can see from my number of post i am unable to do so at this time
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Huawei has announced that the Ham2 will receive Lollipop in the first half of 2015. Check the Huawei official blog site for more info
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http://blog.gethuawei.com/huawei-device-pleased-announce-android-lollipop/ there ya go
I kind of thought that this would happen. I mean, this is their (Huawei's) first venture into the U.S. phone market. They could screw over their entire fan base, or just update the phone. They made the right move.
I wonder just how fugly Huawei L will be...
I'll believe it when I see it.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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They could be pulling our leg, but you never know. It is still a good phone without the update.
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They could be pulling our leg, but you never know. It is still a good phone without the update.
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In this case, I'm less concerned about the phone being good without the update (it is) as I am about whether I should believe any announcement Huawei makes. Further, did they actually learn anything, or is it always going to take public pressure for them to do what they promise in the future? I've already purchased this phone, but their actions for the next year or so will dictate whether I purchase another Huawei product.
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In this case, I'm less concerned about the phone being good without the update (it is) as I am about whether I should believe any announcement Huawei makes. Further, did they actually learn anything, or is it always going to take public pressure for them to do what they promise in the future? I've already purchased this phone, but their actions for the next year or so will dictate whether I purchase another Huawei product.
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I agree, I couldn't have said it better myself and I own a Huawei Ascend Mate 2 as well. Its a nice phablet, but its only a 4 start $300 phablet with the Android updates, otherwise its really not worth it to me. Hopefully Huawei does update the HAM2 to Android 5.0.
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I agree, I couldn't have said it better myself and I own a Huawei Ascend Mate 2 as well. Its a nice phablet, but its only a 4 start $300 phablet with the Android updates, otherwise its really not worth it to me. Hopefully Huawei does update the HAM2 to Android 5.0.
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I am not holding my breath. So many companies have promised vapourware for my earlier phones. It is just not worth it for them to update any phone. Why update when they could announce a new model? Phone turnover is the money maker for them. Hell I paid $199 for a unlocked phone that rocks, yes it has a two year old os, but it is stable, great battery, 4g LTE , lots of memory etc. I will get my moneys worth out of it. Hell I paid more for a Motorolattriupmh and used it till it died. One happy mate2 owner update or no!
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I am not holding my breath. So many companies have promised vapourware for my earlier phones. It is just not worth it for them to update any phone. Why update when they could announce a new model? Phone turnover is the money maker for them. Hell I paid $199 for a unlocked phone that rocks, yes it has a two year old os, but it is stable, great battery, 4g LTE , lots of memory etc. I will get my moneys worth out of it. Hell I paid more for a Motorolattriupmh and used it till it died. One happy mate2 owner update or no!
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The thing is, those other companies are probably bigger, are they not? They have more money for advertising etc., so they can rely on pumping out new phones. But Huawei doesn't have the reputation to do that, at least not in the US.
And if they change their minds about this update, they're going to get so much backlash AGAIN. I don't think they would want that.
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The thing is, those other companies are probably bigger, are they not? They have more money for advertising etc., so they can rely on pumping out new phones. But Huawei doesn't have the reputation to do that, at least not in the US.
And if they change their minds about this update, they're going to get so much backlash AGAIN. I don't think they would want that.
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Well from what I understand Huawei in China bigger than Samsung just not in USA , like someone else posted, be careful what you wish for, new version of any software is bound to be bug laden! I too would love the upgrade but...
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Well from what I understand Huawei in China bigger than Samsung just not in USA , like someone else posted, be careful what you wish for, new version of any software is bound to be bug laden! I too would love the upgrade but...
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I, for one, will let others be the early adopters of this upgrade, when and if it becomes available! If, after a few weeks, it seems stable and reliable, I might try it.
Won't really matter to me one bit. If it never gets an update, I'm keeping it.
4.3 is flat stable, and I'll take that over the newest OS any day.
I'm sure 5.0 will do nothing but improve the HAM2, but, I'm sure it will have to
be patched a few times to work out the inevitable bugs. Bless the ones that will
jump at the alpha, beta versions, leaks etc...but once it is released, I'll let you early
adopters play with it. This thing is my work device away from the office, and I don't
have time for FC's & reboots.
There outta be some kind of medal for you guys that flash the newest OS... :good:
I know some of you don't care if you're still using froyo, but...
JB isn't terribly efficient or stable. It's really one of the more bloated releases out there.
The changes implemented in KK really can make our great battery life even better and bring RAM utilization down, and implementing the ART run-time for Lollipop will make apps run faster (as much as 4x faster). Done.
We're getting a lot more than a fancy interface here.
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JB isn't terribly efficient or stable. It's really one of the more bloated releases out there.
The changes implemented in KK really can make our great battery life even better and bring RAM utilization down, and implementing the ART run-time for Lollipop will make apps run faster (as much as 4x faster). Done.
We're getting a lot more than a fancy interface here.
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Theoretically, everything you say is correct, and if it turns out to work that way in reality, I'll welcome the upgrade, when and if it comes. But I've been burned in the past by upgrades, so I'll be very happy to hold back while you go first and find out if there are any nasty surprises lurking behind that fancy interface.
I like what I've seen of Lollipop so far, but if it doesn't work well on this phone, I'll be perfectly content to stick with JellyBean and have a phone that actually works.
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Hey all new user here.
I am thinking about picking up the Huawei Ascend Mate 2 on Friday. But I to am concerned about if we will actually see the 5.0 (or subsequent updates). It seems that there is a lack of CyanogenMod support for this device and or custom roms. What do you guys think? If we don't see the 5.0 update what do you think the availability of CM12 for this device will be?
Just trying to determine how big a gamble I am taking by grabbing this in regards to future support. Let me know your thoughts
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Hey all new user here.
I am thinking about picking up the Huawei Ascend Mate 2 on Friday. But I to am concerned about if we will actually see the 5.0 (or subsequent updates). It seems that there is a lack of CyanogenMod support for this device and or custom roms. What do you guys think? If we don't see the 5.0 update what do you think the availability of CM12 for this device will be?
Just trying to determine how big a gamble I am taking by grabbing this in regards to future support. Let me know your thoughts
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If you want a device that WORKS, is STABLE, has an incredible battery life, then get the Mate2. If it never gets an update, it won't bother me.
For my use, unless a software program gets updated that will not work with the Mate2 as it stands now, or, adds features that I would use,
I'm quite happy with the performance as it stands now.
If you are of the type, that craves the latest OS, or hardware, then the Mate7 might be a better option, or, the OnePlus One, which is similar
in price.
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If you want a device that WORKS, is STABLE, has an incredible battery life, then get the Mate2. If it never gets an update, it won't bother me.
For my use, unless a software program gets updated that will not work with the Mate2 as it stands now, or, adds features that I would use,
I'm quite happy with the performance as it stands now.
If you are of the type, that craves the latest OS, or hardware, then the Mate7 might be a better option, or, the OnePlus One, which is similar
in price.
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Thanks p51d007. I don't necessarily need the latest OS. but I also don't want to miss out on new features being added to new versions of Android. But I think I am gonna go ahead and pick one up! thanks for the feedback
Huawei informed us last year that they'll be releasing Lollipop in the second quarter of 2015. 5 months and 3 days have already passed and if wasn't for a glimpse they provided some months ago, I would have found it difficult that our HAM2 will ever be updated.
I received my 1+1 about a month ago and tried Lollipop on it. I am not particularly impressed by Lollipop. I had to reinstall kitkat. Lollipop is over-simplified and has lots of white.
Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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I got ya. I agree. I am still hopeful they release Lollipop soon. They aren't the best at this kind of stuff though. Their track record is fairly poor related to supporting existing devices. I think they are trying to be better, though. Time will tell.
Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
I asked them on Instagram and got the usual "Thank you, we don't know anything, we'll tell you something when nothing does everything." kind of comment.
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Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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Yes, thanks. I'm well aware that they have different hardware.
I said to moan as US customers were told an update would be released in the first quarter of the year..... That hasn't happened.
I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I actually bought the 1+1 after reading rave reviews about it almost everywhere. I initially intended to keep the 1+1 and give my dad my HAM2. For some reason, the mate 2 was too good to give up. It has everything I want in a phone; large screen, very long battery life, fast, smooth transitions and most importantly it doesn't get hot like a stove. Anyway, at the end, I kept the HAM2 and gave my dad the 1+1. Seriously, I gave up the 1+1 with all its laudatory specs for the HAM2 and I have no regrets.
This phone's screen is too freaking big for me. I already have a tablet, don't need another one thanks. Unfortunately I can't afford to upgrade it right now so I'm stuck with it. And now Xposed broke so now I'm stuck with the ugly grey nav bar and enormous DPI. (EDIT: Nvm, I fixed that.) Seriously, why did Huawei artificially raise the DPI, the native 240 looks so much better than the stock 320, makes everything look much smaller and crisper and gives you more real estate.
I just want Lollipop. Then I'll see if it's worth keeping this phone or if I should make upgrading a priority.
At least the battery life is nice, but that's about all I can say is going for this phone, and I'm willing to bet in part that's because of the lower res (720p) screen.
Or the first week of February. Maybe something that doesn't matter to a lot of us who already jumped onto the leaked Lollipop build I have to offer.
I know I haven't seen many of the users who posted here before because Verizon surely did rip us. Yesterday I've spent quite some time looking at the Droid Turbo 2, LG V10, Moto X Pure, and the Note 4/5 at Best Buy. Snappier UI experience, amazing cameras, and surely they all got the best support of today. I would only jump ship knowing if I could get all of those + waterproofing on Verizon and that's that.
I only hold thread on my phone definitely for most of those features on an Xperia that was a flagship of 2014. And there's also that contract too. If the bootloader was ever unlocked, I'm pretty sure our two developers on the phone could do much more. For the time being, I do try my best in enjoying the Z3v with what's in this showcasing attachment.
Pretty soon...
The factory version would need to have additional features that I *would* use before I go back to OTA. My phone is stable and I am happy.
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Or the first week of February. Maybe something that doesn't matter to a lot of us who already jumped onto the leaked Lollipop build I have to offer.
I know I haven't seen many of the users who posted here before because Verizon surely did rip us. Yesterday I've spent quite some time looking at the Droid Turbo 2, LG V10, Moto X Pure, and the Note 4/5 at Best Buy. Snappier UI experience, amazing cameras, and surely they all got the best support of today. I would only jump ship knowing if I could get all of those + waterproofing on Verizon and that's that.
I only hold thread on my phone definitely for most of those features on an Xperia that was a flagship of 2014. And there's also that contract too. If the bootloader was ever unlocked, I'm pretty sure our two developers on the phone could do much more. For the time being, I do try my best in enjoying the Z3v with what's in this showcasing attachment.
Pretty soon...
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Do you have a source of this and whether it is a newer build our not?
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I don't know what it is with 5.0.2 but my experience with it compared to 4.4.4 has been awful. I haven't experienced as many app/phone crashes, freezes or instances of chrome running out of RAM for things like uploading a picture with rooted KK (if any) as I have with LP. It's so unstable for me.
Quite literally the only thing it has going for me is the Material design and even that I could work without if I let myself get used to Holo again. I'm hoping if VZW ever does come out with a more finalized build for its OTA that it doesn't crap all over itself like this build is on my phone.
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I don't know what it is with 5.0.2 but my experience with it compared to 4.4.4 has been awful. I haven't experienced as many app/phone crashes, freezes or instances of chrome running out of RAM for things like uploading a picture with rooted KK (if any) as I have with LP. It's so unstable for me.
Quite literally the only thing it has going for me is the Material design and even that I could work without if I let myself get used to Holo again. I'm hoping if VZW ever does come out with a more finalized build for its OTA that it doesn't crap all over itself like this build is on my phone.
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With all this extra time they are taking and considering it is a stage fought patched internal release people have been testing it already is 1 step ahead of the other sony lollipop releases unless they are on 5.1.1 now. That's what verizon should be releasing to us. My HTC m8 was and still is stuck on 5.0.1 and that's a rough update
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I took the chance with chatting with a Verizon representative and I was surprised he gave me an exact date for it. May be true or not, but it's something neat to tell others just in case.
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I don't know what it is with 5.0.2 but my experience with it compared to 4.4.4 has been awful. I haven't experienced as many app/phone crashes, freezes or instances of chrome running out of RAM for things like uploading a picture with rooted KK (if any) as I have with LP. It's so unstable for me.
Quite literally the only thing it has going for me is the Material design and even that I could work without if I let myself get used to Holo again. I'm hoping if VZW ever does come out with a more finalized build for its OTA that it doesn't crap all over itself like this build is on my phone.
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You can tell the difference for sure just by opening the Recents menu on KK and LP. It opens up without lag on KK, but you can see a slight delay on LP.
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With all this extra time they are taking and considering it is a stage fought patched internal release people have been testing it already is 1 step ahead of the other sony lollipop releases unless they are on 5.1.1 now. That's what verizon should be releasing to us. My HTC m8 was and still is stuck on 5.0.1 and that's a rough update
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Who knows, maybe? I wonder if someone questioned Sony whether or not they released an updated rom or patch for the Z3v against Stagefright.
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I took the chance with chatting with a Verizon representative and I was surprised he gave me an exact date for it. May be true or not, but it's something neat to tell others just in case.
You can tell the difference for sure just by opening the Recents menu on KK and LP. It opens up without lag on KK, but you can see a slight delay on LP.
Who knows, maybe? I wonder if someone questioned Sony whether or not they released an updated rom or patch for the Z3v against Stagefright.
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I'm still on stock kitkat awaiting a final ota.. but with this delay there has to be a change from the internal release? How often are internal releases the final build for a ota update? What are the chances of marshmallow that sony is releasing for all their devices?
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I'm still on stock kitkat awaiting a final ota.. but with this delay there has to be a change from the internal release? How often are internal releases the final build for a ota update? What are the chances of marshmallow that sony is releasing for all their devices?
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There's almost no chance at all Marshmallow is coming to our device. It's really sad to say even though we are the bridge between the Z2 and Z3, but we're locked within Verizon's boundaries.
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There's almost no chance at all Marshmallow is coming to our device. It's really sad to say even though we are the bridge between the Z2 and Z3, but we're locked within Verizon's boundaries.
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Was the verizon rep a friend or was it a random you spoke with over phone? Do you think it's reliable info?
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Was the verizon rep a friend or was it a random you spoke with over phone? Do you think it's reliable info?
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It's someone random, but that doesn't necessarily determine if it's reliable or unreliable. It's already one year after the promised date range of when the Z3v was supposed to get the official Lollipop rom. Whatever comes now is just a worthwhile announcement. If we get it, we get it. If we don't, then oh well.
Oh man not another ota thread! No one believes these any more. Aren't you the one that said there was going to be one in November?
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Oh man not another ota thread! No one believes these any more. Aren't you the one that said there was going to be one in November?
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Maybe I did say it, or didn't. It could have been a lot of other people saying it as well. I just want to share hope far the antics go with what Verizon knows for what they think the OTA release dates are.
Even thinking the Z5 coming to Verizon was almost too good to be true, but I would like to have a nice upgrade to another flagship waterproof phone.
Be careful what you wish for with Sony devices. The Z2 I had with AT&T and Z3V on Verizon were solid devices, but the Z3 and Z3+ I've tried with T-Mobile both had reception issues. i.e. in fringe areas they would have no signal at all while other devices would have signal. I don't know what Sony has done with their newer devices but it really hasn't been an improvement.
Even my wife's Note 5 gets better reception than the Z3/Z3+
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Maybe I did say it, or didn't. It could have been a lot of other people saying it as well. I just want to share hope far the antics go with what Verizon knows for what they think the OTA release dates are.
Even thinking the Z5 coming to Verizon was almost too good to be true, but I would like to have a nice upgrade to another flagship waterproof phone.
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Keep guessing you'll get it right one day.
Well I guess we'll see if this is meaningful tomorrow I guess.....
https://community.verizonwireless.c...200472/read&inboxId=2-1377392&fromStream=true
1linuxfreak said:
Keep guessing you'll get it right one day.
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Really try not to be a jerk, m'kay?
That'd be g r e a t.
Hi everyone
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Or the first week of February. Maybe something that doesn't matter to a lot of us who already jumped onto the leaked Lollipop build I have to offer.
I know I haven't seen many of the users who posted here before because Verizon surely did rip us. Yesterday I've spent quite some time looking at the Droid Turbo 2, LG V10, Moto X Pure, and the Note 4/5 at Best Buy. Snappier UI experience, amazing cameras, and surely they all got the best support of today. I would only jump ship knowing if I could get all of those + waterproofing on Verizon and that's that.
I only hold thread on my phone definitely for most of those features on an Xperia that was a flagship of 2014. And there's also that contract too. If the bootloader was ever unlocked, I'm pretty sure our two developers on the phone could do much more. For the time being, I do try my best in enjoying the Z3v with what's in this showcasing attachment.
Pretty soon...
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Could you please tell me how you got the xperia z5 camera to on your phone please
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Really try not to be a ****, m'kay?
That'd be g r e a t.
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I can't help myself, it's just my nature. :good:
I have not seen any hint of an OTA for our phones and I do keep watching for one, I think another forum member said he has a inside tipster who will let them know if there is to be an update OTA coming.
Well I just called Verizon to see if they would give me information that is in any way similar to what you received. The tech told me that they are focusing on updates for their HTCs LGS and Samsungs. He said that even though we can activate Advanced calling on our accounts the phone still needs the 5.0 update to actually use it. I asked him for a time frame. He said that the manufacturer hasn't sent them the update yet and then when I told him the manufacturer saidit was to be out by the end of 2015 and that competitors already have updates for their phones he kind of glazed over it.
So the time frame he gave me was possibly around spring break or during the summer in which he also said that sony is working on a new phone which would be coming around by then on Verizon and that they might be waiting to make the new phone before they push that update. So the false hope can be put to rest. The lead OTA would probably be our only option for a while and he said that they might not have released an update because they are still fixing bugs. And for the tech to try to relate he said that he is still waiting on an update for his samsung galaxy note 4 for Advanced calling.
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lg-sony-htc-samsung-apple said:
Could you please tell me how you got the xperia z5 camera to on your phone please
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In due time, it will be for everyone here. Pretty soon.
http://bgr.com/2016/06/02/2016-google-nexus-phones/
This could be good or bad.
It could be bad and me might have something like Samsung or LG and never get updates. (however, i dont think it will come to this as i feel that would take almost everything that makes a nexus a "nexus")
It could be good and the "Nexus" line might turn into something more along the lines of "Google Play Edition" or more like a Moto X style rom.
To me this makes much more sense. We still get the essence of pure android with a few cool tweaks.
If this were to be the case the number 1 thing i hope that comes out of it is that the OEM would provide the camera app instead of the garbage one Google has.
This was such the case with the HTC One M7 Google Play Edition (or was it an M8?)
And with HTC rumored to make the next set of Nexus phones we might just get that. Hopefully they dont use a garbage sensor though like HTC has recently been known to do.
What do you guys think this could mean?
We don't run "stock Android" now. All that article means is that the stock rom on Nexus phones will get more built in features.
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Nexus phones aren't selling well so they need something to give them more selling power. The average consumer sees Samsung phones etc with "amazing" feature so will buy that over a Nexus. The fact Google tried to market the 6P more at the mainstream shows that they're truing to get away from a developer type of phone and more features in the software shows this.Im not entirely happy with this, I'd rather have a pure Android phone and be able to the devs cook something better up rather than have a phone with unnecessary features which ultimately slow it down.
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We don't run "stock Android" now. All that article means is that the stock rom on Nexus phones will get more built in features.
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This.
I welcome new, proprietary features in Google's Android. I trust them not to bog down the OS like other OEM's do. After all, it's their OS.
This is great news and what might bring me back to a Nexus phone in the future. Stock Android is way too boring and feature thin imo. I definitely wouldn't mind features added by Google all while not bogging it down and keeping it lean.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
This is great news and what might bring me back to a Nexus phone in the future. Stock Android is way too boring and feature thin imo. I definitely wouldn't mind features added by Google all while not bogging it down and keeping it lean.
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Uhh how about no. The reason I stick with Nexus phones is for the pure android experience. This just says they don't understand their customer base at all, and are instead focused on the people who buy other phones (let them have their other phones).
Read this. It will help explain. Nexus phones are Google's Android complete with their proprietary apps and services. I happen to love it, but it is what it is.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/06/02/its-time-to-let-the-phrase-stock-android-die-opinion/
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Uhh how about no. The reason I stick with Nexus phones is for the pure android experience. This just says they don't understand their customer base at all, and are instead focused on the people who buy other phones (let them have their other phones).
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I don't see it that way at all. I just see this as the next step in the evolution of android. Naturally more and more features are added. The current form of android is much more feature packed than, say, the version that came on the galaxy nexus and previous. Those earlier versions didn't even have quick settings tiles, even though the galaxy s phones did. Would you prefer to be that way still? I sure as hell couldn't do without QS in the drop down. So, if you prefer having those over not having them, then you need to accept the next step. Besides, quick settings are one of MANY features added since the start. Go back to an unmodified galaxy nexus, I'm sure you would hate it after having what you have now. Face it, features get added as the OS matures.
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I don't see it that way at all. I just see this as the next step in the evolution of android. Naturally more and more features are added. The current form of android is much more feature packed than, say, the version that came on the galaxy nexus and previous. Those earlier versions didn't even have quick settings tiles, even though the galaxy s phones did. Would you prefer to be that way still? I sure as hell couldn't do without QS in the drop down. So, if you prefer having those over not having them, then you need to accept the next step. Besides, quick settings are one of MANY features added since the start. Go back to an unmodified galaxy nexus, I'm sure you would hate it after having what you have now. Face it, features get added as the OS matures.
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Right but those are now base features of stock Marshmallow. What I don't want is Google building their own Touchwiz or something else that only the Nexus phones get. That's hardly what I see as the answer. I hate what Samsung, LG, etc. do to the OS on their phones. But I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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Read this. It will help explain. Nexus phones are Google's Android complete with their proprietary apps and services. I happen to love it, but it is what it is.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/06/02/its-time-to-let-the-phrase-stock-android-die-opinion/
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Interesting article, but it seems more like a semantics issue than anything. I guess I fall into the group of "Stock Android" meaning as shipped on the Nexus phone by Google. But specifically in that it felt basically functional versus flashy and bloated like the rest of the manufacturers tend to shoot for. I don't want iOS, I don't want Touchwiz, I don't want any of the other variants. So to me it's like AOSP and Stock Android have blended and become synonymous to me. *shrugs*
I really think you're reading way too much into this. All the article says is that Google will be thoughtfully adding more features. Four years ago the quick settings tiles would have been one of these new features. Two years ago the fingerprint reader would have been one of these new features. This year with Android N multi-screen will be one of these new features. These have all been steps forward for Android, adding functionality and improving the UX. Adding new features doesn't mean they're going to add a skin or some of the bloaty crap that Samsung add, it just means new features.
This thread is just a huge facepalm..
Really if Google wants to slap a custom skin over stock android then who am I to care? Google always designs their devices to be customisable. So say you don't like it then you could flash a custom ROM built off of AOSP and you have what you wanted.
The Nexus line has always been built more for the developer crowd, but I have a feeling they're trying to reach out to your average consumer by adding "Features" while still appealing to the developers with the openness that they've always had.
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These assumptions don't make sense and you are reading too much into it. A custom skin? After all the money they spent and researching and developing Material Design? They won't change anything, they will add new features as times goes one. Android N is already an example of this. The design paradigm will change eventually, it will be an evolution to Material Design, just like Material Design succeeded Holo.
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There's always custom ROMs, as long as the bootloader's still easy to unlock who cares if they add more to stock rom, people will always create custom ROMs. If you don't know how to unlock and install a custom ROM then maybe a nexus just isn't for you.
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These assumptions don't make sense and you are reading too much into it. A custom skin? After all the money they spent and researching and developing Material Design? They won't change anything, they will add new features as times goes one. Android N is already an example of this. The design paradigm will change eventually, it will be an evolution to Material Design, just like Material Design succeeded Holo.
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The next change will be a huge one. Too many people complaining about the way MD looks. Even app developers are starting to refuse to use the MD guidelines. Can't say I blame them when people would rather pirate older versions instead of using the MD versions.
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There's always custom ROMs, as long as the bootloader's still easy to unlock who cares if they add more to stock rom, people will always create custom ROMs. If you don't know how to unlock and install a custom ROM then maybe a nexus just isn't for you.
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I wouldn't count on there always being roms. Google has even began not pushing fixes to aosp. Many developers are seeing this. Google will fix something in the release builds but never updating the code to aosp. So aosp stays broken.
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The next change will be a huge one. Too many people complaining about the way MD looks. Even app developers are starting to refuse to use the MD guidelines. Can't say I blame them when people would rather pirate older versions instead of using the MD versions.
I wouldn't count on there always being roms. Google has even began not pushing fixes to aosp. Many developers are seeing this. Google will fix something in the release builds but never updating the code to aosp. So aosp stays broken.
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Sources? That's doesn't seem right to me. MD apps are increasing day by day. If anything, only a niche of people complain about MD, and not because they don't like it, but because they tend to prefer apps not to change the design they have been used to for ages. Recently even Google said Material Design is being adopted at a really fast rate. It won't change any time soon, that is certain.
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Sources? That's doesn't seem right to me. MD apps are increasing day by day. If anything, only a niche of people complain about MD, and not because they don't like it, but because they tend to prefer apps not to change the design they have been used to for ages. Recently even Google said Material Design is being adopted at a really fast rate. It won't change any time soon, that is certain.
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Go look at the Google groups. The people that don't like it just really don't like it. It's not that they don't want things to change. MD is a running joke that people say should have a fisher price copyright to it lol
Me personally. I don't update any app that updates to the MD guidelines. I have like 15 apps with updates that will never be updated
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Go look at the Google groups. The people that don't like it just really don't like it. It's not that they don't want things to change. MD is a running joke that people say should have a fisher price copyright to it lol
Me personally. I don't update any app that updates to the MD guidelines. I have like 15 apps with updates that will never be updated
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So basically less than probably 1% of the users? Good joke. Luckily you aren't a designer and MD is growing faster than ever.
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So basically less than probably 1% of the users? Good joke. Luckily you aren't a designer and MD is growing faster than ever.
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Well considering the people here are the same percentage that mod their devices that is alot of people. I wouldnt call anyone that uses MD a designer. Not hard to find inspiration from a pre-K kids class lol.
I make my own themes and theme the apps on my phone so I personally dont have to worry about MD at all.
Its nots a surprise that alot of people like it. When their first thought of a phone is getting 5hr SOT (losers lol) and their first device was an iphone. What I and many devs find funny is that people were making fun of apple with the fruity design and yet its ok for google. And people wonder why devs dont take the average person seriously.
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Well considering the people here are the same percentage that mod their devices that is alot of people. I wouldnt call anyone that uses MD a designer. Not hard to find inspiration from a pre-K kids class lol.
I make my own themes and theme the apps on my phone so I personally dont have to worry about MD at all.
Its nots a surprise that alot of people like it. When their first thought of a phone is getting 5hr SOT (losers lol) and their first device was an iphone. What I and many devs find funny is that people were making fun of apple with the fruity design and yet its ok for google. And people wonder why devs dont take the average person seriously.
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Bollocks. Care to show some of these themes you make? lol
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Bollocks. Care to show some of these themes you make? lol
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You can find them around. They are all for personal use and I only share them with a few other devs and users on the site. Just have a look for Zelendel and gotham and you will find some older ones easy enough.
I never share my themes with normal users for reasons.