What is the latest on KitKat for MK2? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Hello, mine is running MK2 firmware, I545. With the helps from this forum, I rooted it and installed safestrap two months ago. My understanding back then was that CWM can't be installed to MK2. Has this been changed? Is there any way we can put KitKat to the phones like mine?

newshook said:
Hello, mine is running MK2 firmware, I545. With the helps from this forum, I rooted it and installed safestrap two months ago. My understanding back then was that CWM can't be installed to MK2. Has this been changed? Is there any way we can put KitKat to the phones like mine?
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Nope nothing has changed for your phone. You'll have to wait until Verizon sends 4.4, your way...but most likely running it via SafeStrap is going To take quite some time if its even possible.
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Mistertac said:
Nope nothing has changed for your phone. You'll have to wait until Verizon sends 4.4, your way...but most likely running it via SafeStrap is going To take quite some time if its even possible.
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actually were temp set on that aspect we'll be able to run safestrap with 4.4 just like the AT&T and Note3 users I've got all the file templates ready even in a minute or less i'll build these "magic" upgrade / downgrade SS methods . I've got everything ready just need a leak or official firmware and modem. so as soon as someone comes privy to it please PM me. I'm sure hash will be putting his own update out very soon but we wont be waiting because there will be a workaround. all the waiting tho... this is why If i didnt have unlimited grandfathered in (17TB tethered last month eat it vzw it was proven in court tethering is legal and were able to do what we want with our phones you can't stop us.) or I wouldnt ever b willingly giving my money to a company that deliberately delays and with holds updates from customers so they can lock their crap up more... when they know and we know no matter what they throw on it we will prevail. just stupid we'll be getting 4.42 as 5.0 comes out for the rest of the world lol also why Tmobile is taking over verizon's losing a large percentage of its customers to them next year or so. I was loading 4.4 on tmobile phones in jan its now april and were still waiting. we should start a bounty for a hacker to be pulling test firmware or leaks from vzw for us

gigilie said:
actually were temp set on that aspect we'll be able to run safestrap with 4.4 just like the AT&T and Note3 users I've got all the file templates ready even in a minute or less i'll build these "magic" upgrade / downgrade SS methods . I've got everything ready just need a leak or official firmware and modem. so as soon as someone comes privy to it please PM me. I'm sure hash will be putting his own update out very soon but we wont be waiting because there will be a workaround. all the waiting tho... this is why If i didnt have unlimited grandfathered in (17TB tethered last month eat it vzw it was proven in court tethering is legal and were able to do what we want with our phones you can't stop us.) or I wouldnt ever b willingly giving my money to a company that deliberately delays and with holds updates from customers so they can lock their crap up more... when they know and we know no matter what they throw on it we will prevail. just stupid we'll be getting 4.42 as 5.0 comes out for the rest of the world lol also why Tmobile is taking over verizon's losing a large percentage of its customers to them next year or so. I was loading 4.4 on tmobile phones in jan its now april and were still waiting. we should start a bounty for a hacker to be pulling test firmware or leaks from vzw for us
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Hey thanks.. I clearly didn't know how close you guys were to getting that working for SafeStrap. Some talented people on here for sure.
And I've been debating switching over to TMOBILE myself... Doing some more research first before I jump ship. Really in don't see too too many cons.
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[Q] Any roms yet for 4.3 yet?

I've been looking but I haven't found one of them yet. I guess I'm one of the rare ones with an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery but I don't need anything fancy just a stock rom. thanks!
The radios are out so you can flash them but no roms built from source yet. I haven't really seen anyone talk about putting out a standard srd yet just that sbreen and nitroglycerine will be updating their roms
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It's a painstaking wait since Sammy decided to fk around with Knox etc. Still rolling with my gimped Gear. Love the watch but would love like hell to get my sms/mms and be able to upgrade to the latest Gear Manager. Bastards picked a hell of a time to release a watch that relies on an OS that is a whore to custom rom out.
im feeling yo pain
AftermathLK said:
I've been looking but I haven't found one of them yet. I guess I'm one of the rare ones with an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery but I don't need anything fancy just a stock rom. thanks!
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been waiting myselfalmost holding my breath at times this really sucks but I'm no Dev so I have to wait just like a few of us this stuck with MDK and have full abilities and waiting for our fantastic day as to pick the crumbs E b******* out of Verizon update I've had a gear watch going on 2 weeks now with very few capabilities and I've almost taken the plunge several times now to go ahead and update but then I know I will be very very sad because I will lose my recovery so I guess it's on 2 waiting for more with hope hope hope
thank you, no pressure to the devs, just making sure I wasn't in the wrong place.
jimyv said:
been waiting myselfalmost holding my breath at times this really sucks but I'm no Dev so I have to wait just like a few of us this stuck with MDK and have full abilities and waiting for our fantastic day as to pick the crumbs E b******* out of Verizon update I've had a gear watch going on 2 weeks now with very few capabilities and I've almost taken the plunge several times now to go ahead and update but then I know I will be very very sad because I will lose my recovery so I guess it's on 2 waiting for more with hope hope hope
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I have MDK also loaded stock 4.3 from development works great runs silky smooth and still have bootloader it's lokied. Tether is possible with a few steps threw terminal emulator.

Not Much Development

I was considering this for my next phone but it seems like there isn't a heck of a lot out there for it in the way of ROMS. Looks like most of the major devs are staying away from it? Is there a problem unlocking/rooting it or what's up with that? Your takes on the phone?
Chopstix9 said:
I was considering this for my next phone but it seems like there isn't a heck of a lot out there for it in the way of ROMS. Looks like most of the major devs are staying away from it? Is there a problem unlocking/rooting it or what's up with that? Your takes on the phone?
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Yeah.....as of right now, if you don't have an MDK build you're kind of screwed. The phone is pretty locked down.
Stay away. It's your best option
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If you haven't noticed, the number of original roms have dropped drastically each new phone like OG droid-> DX/D2 -> tbolt -> rezound / s3 -> s4/motox/one.
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Chopstix9 said:
I was considering this for my next phone but it seems like there isn't a heck of a lot out there for it in the way of ROMS. Looks like most of the major devs are staying away from it? Is there a problem unlocking/rooting it or what's up with that? Your takes on the phone?
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S4 is still the best phone out on the market....and even those of us that don't have a MDK version can still run custom ROMS, though limited. I kept my tbolt for almost 3 yrs before I got the S4 last fall and I couldn't find a MDK version so I settle with what was available and hashcode worked his miracle in giving us safestrap.
My battery can go almost 48hrs between charges with moderate use, completely unbelievable. I have 3 roms on my phone that I can switch between in minutes because of safestrap.
It's the way of the future, especially if your on Verizon there isn't many new phones that have huge development like in the past. But there's the xposed modules that are widely developed, so I think things are just shifting... why rebuild entire rooms when whe can just fix the broken pieces individually.. It's a decent enough phone, root does a lot. if flashing is that important best to stay with a legacy phone!
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There are MDK s4's out there for sale.
I just want to inform everyone that if you want a MDK s4 you have to get the brown one. My mom and I went to best buy mobile in the mall a 2 months ago, after talking her into dropping that stupid iPhone. She got the the brown s4 and came with MDK. Now 2 months later I decided to get my daughter one since they are free with no activation fee for this weekend. Well to test the theory I had that brown is probably the most unpopular color it should have the MDK version and it did so I gave my daughter the black one that came with ME7 when I bought it.And of course kept the brown one so go get the Brown ones folks! I promise it will come with MDK. Oh and you have every right to check the phone out before the sale is final. If it's not mdk say nevermind or get the next best phone that you know has an exploit. I am finally flashing again my addiction is so satisfied now. I'm running cyanogenmod 11 and loving it! I like Beanstalk too.
be cautious
if your a crack flasher stay away.. maybe try an LGG2... that being said if you just want a stable phone GS4 is fine. Hyperdrive is a great go to rom, or the possibilities are really endless with just root + xsposed
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if your a crack flasher stay away.. maybe try an LGG2... that being said if you just want a stable phone GS4 is fine. Hyperdrive is a great go to rom, or the possibilities are really endless with just root + xsposed
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Yeah I'm not so much addicted but it's really fun flashing different roms to see which one suits me best. Hyperdrive and touchwiz isn't for me. I like seeing whats out there other than safestrap with only one rom flashable "HD" and touchwiz.. I prefer having clocking and volting capabilities I have the s4 because it's the best phone IMO. And your right the G2 is a nice phone indeed.. But I see soo many people in these forums wishing they had MDK S4. Or mad that they accidently updated their MDK s4's I'm just letting every one know that in a 2 month period I have bought 2 Brown Verizon S4's and walked out with the MDK version. And you will too.
Chopstix9 said:
I was considering this for my next phone but it seems like there isn't a heck of a lot out there for it in the way of ROMS. Looks like most of the major devs are staying away from it? Is there a problem unlocking/rooting it or what's up with that? Your takes on the phone?
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Phone is locked down. Not only that, it comes pre-loaded with an incredible array of crapware: both from Samsung and Verizon. It'll make your S4 run like my old HTC Hero. (Well, that is an exaggeration, but you get the idea. That crapware does negatively impact performance.)
My next phone will almost certainly be a Nexus.
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Yeah I'm not so much addicted but it's really fun flashing different roms to see which one suits me best. Hyperdrive and touchwiz isn't for me. I like seeing whats out there other than safestrap with only one rom flashable "HD" and touchwiz.. I prefer having clocking and volting capabilities I have the s4 because it's the best phone IMO. And your right the G2 is a nice phone indeed.. But I see soo many people in these forums wishing they had MDK S4. Or mad that they accidently updated their MDK s4's I'm just letting every one know that in a 2 month period I have bought 2 Brown Verizon S4's and walked out with the MDK version. And you will too.
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My cousin just got the brown it was on mi1
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joshm.1219 said:
My cousin just got the brown it was on mi1
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Maybe it depends where you get it from I got mine from a bestbuy mobile in a mall with a verizon store just 100 feet from it. so people will just go to verizon to get it. maybe factor in things like that. Like walmart might have them on the MDK. Order one from the best buy mobile in the empire mall sioux falls SD. Idk you can't buy them from places that have alot of traffic I'd think. maybe I'm wrong but I know brown is not the popular color. 2 months apart I got 2 MDK phones Brown. Sorry to here that though.
I'm not I guess what U would call a crack flasher ... I've been with my GNex since the week it hit the market. I like finding a nice stable ROM with some customizations I like and I stick with it... When I got my GNex, I ran Gummy up until they dis-banded for some time instead of trying to re-write their entire build when Jelly Bean came out. I switched to XenonHD then and ran that up and through 4.3 releases. They were slow coming out with a 4.4 build so I am running Liquid KK which is adequate. I am grandfathered into the old unlimited data plan, I get 17+ down and 8 on the upstream on the phone here, so I run the house off the phones, got rid of cable net long ago. So tethering is important to me, then just a few other things like customizabe status bar/tiles and navbar. Other than that I don't have a lot of other use for elaborate features in a ROM. Nice n clean n smooth is all. May be switching to a different phone and poking around to see what's out there is all ...
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Phone is locked down. Not only that, it comes pre-loaded with an incredible array of crapware: both from Samsung and Verizon. It'll make your S4 run like my old HTC Hero. (Well, that is an exaggeration, but you get the idea. That crapware does negatively impact performance.)
My next phone will almost certainly be a Nexus.
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Crapware isn't an issue, just freeze it with TiBU
Chopstix9 said:
I'm not I guess what U would call a crack flasher ... I've been with my GNex since the week it hit the market. I like finding a nice stable ROM with some customizations I like and I stick with it... When I got my GNex, I ran Gummy up until they dis-banded for some time instead of trying to re-write their entire build when Jelly Bean came out. I switched to XenonHD then and ran that up and through 4.3 releases. They were slow coming out with a 4.4 build so I am running Liquid KK which is adequate. I am grandfathered into the old unlimited data plan, I get 17+ down and 8 on the upstream on the phone here, so I run the house off the phones, got rid of cable net long ago. So tethering is important to me, then just a few other things like customizabe status bar/tiles and navbar. Other than that I don't have a lot of other use for elaborate features in a ROM. Nice n clean n smooth is all. May be switching to a different phone and poking around to see what's out there is all ...
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If that's all you need.
Update to MK2, then root.
Install Xposed, then Wanam.
Saferoot -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Google Wallet Patch -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454971
GS4 Tether Unlock -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512981
I'm putting my S4 up on swappa in the next 24 hours. MDK FW, FLAWLESS screen and body 2 original chargers, 2 Spigen cases and MIME Ghost glass installed with original box, and never used original headphones. So if interested just keep en eye out for it,
You guys should check our BeanStalk 4.4 for the s4
Awesome ROM really smooth. I know in getting into the mdk game a little late but .. Worth checking out
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Eric214 said:
I'm putting my S4 up on swappa in the next 24 hours. MDK FW, FLAWLESS screen and body 2 original chargers, 2 Spigen cases and MIME Ghost glass installed with original box, and never used original headphones. So if interested just keep en eye out for it,
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You won't have a problem getting rid of that
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[Q] Little direction please.

Moms X2 finally died, and I picked her up a new s4 on ebay. I need to get her permanent root and wifi tether. She currently has 4.3 and it's trying to get me to accept an update. I'm working on 2 hours of sleep in the past 2 days, and I'm not sure where to begin. Should I keep it at 4.3 or take the update. I've been through the forums a bit, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out what the best/safest path is to take for her phone to accomplish what's needed. Any advice and or links would be much appreciated, so I don't have to spend the next two hours researching what the best option is. Sorry for being lazy tonight, I'm a bit overworked atm.
DJJasonK said:
Moms X2 finally died, and I picked her up a new s4 on ebay. I need to get her permanent root and wifi tether. She currently has 4.3 and it's trying to get me to accept an update. I'm working on 2 hours of sleep in the past 2 days, and I'm not sure where to begin. Should I keep it at 4.3 or take the update. I've been through the forums a bit, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out what the best/safest path is to take for her phone to accomplish what's needed. Any advice and or links would be much appreciated, so I don't have to spend the next two hours researching what the best option is. Sorry for being lazy tonight, I'm a bit overworked atm.
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First off, never ever take an OTA update. You might possibly have an MDK bootloader and that's worth a lot around here. Go to "about phone" and give us some details about your phone. After that we can help you more.
Triscuit said:
First off, never ever take an OTA update. You might possibly have an MDK bootloader and that's worth a lot around here. Go to "about phone" and give us some details about your phone. After that we can help you more.
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Pretty sure if its already on 4.3 its not an MDK bootloader. In that case you may as well just accept the OTA and use towelroot to root it.
It is possible to upgrade to KitKat and still keep that 4.3 bootloader but it is an involved process for what is probably zero return.
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Pretty sure if its already on 4.3 its not an MDK bootloader. In that case you may as well just accept the OTA and use towelroot to root it.
It is possible to upgrade to KitKat and still keep that 4.3 bootloader but it is an involved process for what is probably zero return.
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It's mk2.
So update, towelroot, safestrap 3.72, install the zip to unlock toggles and tether?
I'm not going to put a rom on this phone. She is so lost on these things anyways, I wouldn't want to confuse her, so saving the bootloader for possible future exploit is pointless. As long as the phone works and she can tether to her laptop for netflix life is good.
Is towelroot as good as the previous root. I thought I read somewhere, that it's kind of hokey.
DJJasonK said:
It's mk2.
So update, towelroot, safestrap 3.72, install the zip to unlock toggles and tether?
I'm not going to put a rom on this phone. She is so lost on these things anyways, I wouldn't want to confuse her, so saving the bootloader for possible future exploit is pointless. As long as the phone works and she can tether to her laptop for netflix life is good.
Is towelroot as good as the previous root. I thought I read somewhere, that it's kind of hokey.
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Towelroot is money. Easy money at that.
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liljoe727 said:
Towelroot is money. Easy money at that.
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All done.
Took update
towelroot
supersu
busybox
safestrap
installed I545VRUFNC5_enable_tether.zip
Working great thanks.

**** Verizon. Seriously what the hell with 11C

Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Could you be a little more vague?
Can't revert to 11B
It's expected. Verizon is the Apple of android now. Locking and blocking so they can find ways to make even more $ from subscribers. Its shameful, but it's business. They have maybe the best service and until people start dropping them they can pretty much do what they want.
Just hang in there and hope that someone finds a way to downgrade so you can get root and twrp back. I believe @autoprime is looking into it in another thread. That's a good thing. :good: Be mad at Verizon still, but be patient too.
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Can't revert to 11B
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He means v10b and v10c, of course, and many people are reporting the same issue. It may still be possible to revert to v10b from the OTA'd v10c, which would solve our problems with this OTA, but anyone who has not flashed v10c OTA yet should avoid it best as possible until there is better clear information about reverting.
Remember when Google first updated the Chromecast firmware and that patched the only known exploit for it ? It took a while to get around that. I think the Chromcast Devs eventually did, though...I quit following and just stayed stock.
How about instead of being furious with Verizon, you point the blame at yourself. You're the one who was stupid enough to take an OTA, despite common knowledge being that OTAs will patch exploits and have been known to prevent rolling back to older versions.
Not to pile on, but I am really surprised by the number of folks that have eagerly taken the OTA. As with just about any SW update, it's usually best to let someone else be the guinea pig. Not to say I'm not sympathetic. Still, at least your not on a Samsung. I spent the last year on my GS3 stuck in the past usually running TW 4.1.2, but at least I was free!
I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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It looks like you cannot revert to v10b via .tot, either. Still might be a way, but things seem rather bleak about that.
What is bad for us all is that developers, already annoyed at Verizon and LG both, for good reasons, are likely see there very few Verizon LG G3 users that are ever going to be able to benefit from their work left. So, they will give hacking the Verizon G3 up as not worthwhile, maybe, and we will be stuck with a stock-only device. Its a problem to consider.
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GS3 got Knox at 4.4 and couldn't be rolled back as I recall (might even have been when 4.3 released). As bad as that was for the unfortunate folks that took the OTA or had to do a warranty exchange, the worst part was that it fractured the development into two camps, and that seemed to expedite the winding down of dev support for that device. I really hope that isn't what happens to the G3.
FYI- I just saw this post from @autoprime basically suggesting evidence of anti-rollback code in the new BL. Not a shocker, as VZW has been employing that for a while now - at least on Moto and Samsung devices. Sigh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56437577
Yep... First they locked down the S4...and a short time later the S3 got the Knox bootloader essentially locking everyone who updated into using TW. Safestrap helped many but AOSP was no longer an option for them. It really sucked for development on my S4 as you need to know if a room was for mdk or for Safestrap.
I'd hate to see that happen here to the G3...BUT i will not give up a custom recovery just to get the latest update.... Even if the development community never is able to get a working updated rom.
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patience is a virtue
Isn't this a fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-update-incoming-t2923354/page20
Someone on that thread found a way to get root and twrp back after the OTA. :good:
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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bkhorn said:
Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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as im writing this, im readying my ultrabook to do the same. Sorry, my Samsung knowledge refers to my Fascinate/Nexus days, when the world made sense lol
I was pretty tempted to take the update. But coming from experience with Motorola, I knew better. I checked the forums first before taking it.
Not to lecture, but any time you root it's best to use the free app Uninstall Expert and freeze any potential updates. It saves a lot of heartache.
Surely this will get patched it's just going to take some time...
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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jfriend33 said:
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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So far I love my G3...but the nexus 6 is looking sexy....
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I'm using a droid turbo right now because I broke my g3 screen. Can't stand this p.o.s. Excited for my g3 replacement device. I'll have it 2m and I'll be back to normal.
BTW, screen and digitizer are one in the same on the g3. Crack your screen and touchscreen no longer works. Just FYI
Verizon Moto Droid Turbo... No simultaneous voice and data? What year is it again?

Lack of Lollipop speculation

Could it be that verizon got so hammered from the issues surrounding the S5 update they are holding off on ours till they know its good
Not likely. I see Lollipop updates are released for other phones even the Galaxy S4.
I see people posting about how they're ready to give up on this phone because of the lack of update for one important feature. TBH, I don't blame them since I blame this entirely on Verizon. Serious lack of support here, and they couldn't even shoot a minor update for VoLTE. I'm just enjoying what I can with my phone and I'm on a two year contract anyway. If I were given the choice, I'd be grabbing the Z3 or Note 4 instead just because of more options. Until then, I do solidly hope there's something we can look forward to for just an update since it's already May now.
Exactly, figured today would be some sort of update since it's may the 1st and Friday which typically good things are always on Friday, lol. Just extremely annoyed when I need to look something up when I'm on the phone and can't.
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Exactly, figured today would be some sort of update since it's may the 1st and Friday which typically good things are always on Friday, lol. Just extremely annoyed when I need to look something up when I'm on the phone and can't.
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It's funny how terribly unreliable Verizon's own network info is to their own employees. First it's claimed we'll have VoLTE for Q1 2015, and we're in the middle of Q2. And all Verizon can say is subscribe to so-and-so link to receive updates.
Still no known info...
Now you see why "root" is so important, had we had root by now we would have a custom ROM of Lollipop at least.
Verizon always sucks when it comes to stepchildren phones (top tier phone but not of the brand Verizon wishes to push).
VoLTE will be just like all of Verizon's brilliant ideas, buggy, uses more bandwidth and works far worse than analog ever did, and no one actually asked for it.
Bombard Verizon with request until VZW gets tired of it, scream loud and scream long, only way VZW seems to listen. :good:
Yup I've been Facebook messaging Verizon every day about advanced calling. Just to bug them
so the tmobile version just received lollipop and again still no words from verizon and even the international xperia z received lollipop now. wtf!???
1linuxfreak said:
Now you see why "root" is so important, had we had root by now we would have a custom ROM of Lollipop at least.
Verizon always sucks when it comes to stepchildren phones (top tier phone but not of the brand Verizon wishes to push).
VoLTE will be just like all of Verizon's brilliant ideas, buggy, uses more bandwidth and works far worse than analog ever did, and no one actually asked for it.
Bombard Verizon with request until VZW gets tired of it, scream loud and scream long, only way VZW seems to listen. :good:
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No they wouldn't have been able to port another lollipop rom over just because you have root. Normally this is all you need for most devices but with the Z3, devs need the update to be released first before they can make roms for it.
The T-Mobile Z3 has been rooted for about a month and still has not seen one custom stock rom. Reason being lollipop hadn't been released yet by T-Mobile
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_massive_android_51_upgrade_plans-news-12525.php we will get 5.1 too
xuanphucn said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_massive_android_51_upgrade_plans-news-12525.php we will get 5.1 too
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Oh that's great news. I was hoping that since we had to wait so long that they would just skip 5.0 and jump to 5.1. So hopefully by the end of July or sometime in August we might see 5.1, I assume.
haggman7 said:
Oh that's great news. I was hoping that since we had to wait so long that they would just skip 5.0 and jump to 5.1. So hopefully by the end of July or sometime in August we might see 5.1, I assume.
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Please skip right to 5.1
haggman7 said:
Oh that's great news. I was hoping that since we had to wait so long that they would just skip 5.0 and jump to 5.1. So hopefully by the end of July or sometime in August we might see 5.1, I assume.
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i dont think they will skip 5.0 tho. tmobile just released 5.0 for the z3 so we will get 5.0 probably within the next few weeks
cvsolidx17 said:
No they wouldn't have been able to port another lollipop rom over just because you have root. Normally this is all you need for most devices but with the Z3, devs need the update to be released first before they can make roms for it.
The T-Mobile Z3 has been rooted for about a month and still has not seen one custom stock rom. Reason being lollipop hadn't been released yet by T-Mobile
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Like your optimism, thought I had read that when lollipop is rooted it needs a unlocked bootloader (Zygote was a temporary solution) cause you have to be able to flash a custom kernel to gain root, our phone's need an unlocked bootloader or we will be back in the same situation again, besides makes more sense to have an unlocked bootloader.
1linuxfreak said:
Like your optimism, thought I had read that when lollipop is rooted it needs a unlocked bootloader (Zygote was a temporary solution) cause you have to be able to flash a custom kernel to gain root, our phone's need an unlocked bootloader or we will be back in the same situation again, besides makes more sense to have an unlocked bootloader.
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Pretty sure we just need a pre-rooted ftf. That is the way it worked with my Z2. As long as you have root and recovery you can flash the prerooted ftf without unlocking the bootloader.
BladeRunner said:
Pretty sure we just need a pre-rooted ftf. That is the way it worked with my Z2. As long as you have root and recovery you can flash the prerooted ftf without unlocking the bootloader.
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Hope you are right, that would be nice.
It does sound possible from all the threads about the pre-root tool by zxz0O0.
Will have to wait and see.
Thought: why was there a root bounty when this was available?
1linuxfreak said:
Hope you are right, that would be nice.
It does sound possible from all the threads about the pre-root tool by zxz0O0.
Will have to wait and see.
Thought: why was there a root bounty when this was available?
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Because I don't think you could flash anything without first having root on it. lol
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GigaSPX said:
Because I don't think you could flash anything without first having root on it. lol
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Really, can you point out where it says you need to be rooted already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
Was this the method used to exploit root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900
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Oh, Motorola E is getting Lollipop 5.1. Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1linuxfreak said:
Really, can you point out where it says you need to be rooted already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
Was this the method used to exploit root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900
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Oh, Motorola E is getting Lollipop 5.1. Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Read the first paragraph of the PRF Creator thread
"What is a pre-rooted firmware
A pre-rooted firmware is a firmware, which already includes root. This is for example important if you want to update the firmware to a version, where there is no public root exploit. To flash a pre-rooted firmware, you need a recovery menu. An unlocked bootloader is not required."
Root is required to install the locked dual recovery, hence you need to be rooted already.
Hm, just a small say here. I flashed back to the shipped firmware that our phones came with from last year (still rooted), and I'm seeing for sure the battery doesn't die as quickly as the current firmware that's out today. What I'm trying to say here is, I hope Lollipop is designed for better battery efficiency for our phones that does have it achieve a 2-day battery life sort of deal. I don't know exactly what it is that the current firmware is making our phone die faster, but I hope Verizon does some right in it.
Plus, this is already halfway through June. Total bullcrap nonetheless about the lack of update anyhow.
GigaSPX said:
Hm, just a small say here. I flashed back to the shipped firmware that our phones came with from last year (still rooted), and I'm seeing for sure the battery doesn't die as quickly as the current firmware that's out today. What I'm trying to say here is, I hope Lollipop is designed for better battery efficiency for our phones that does have it achieve a 2-day battery life sort of deal. I don't know exactly what it is that the current firmware is making our phone die faster, but I hope Verizon does some right in it.
Plus, this is already halfway through June. Total bullcrap nonetheless about the lack of update anyhow.
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I felt the same way. So I did a factory reset from stock recovery, set everything up again but left it on the .44 update. The only xposed module I am using is gravity box and I disabled sync for google calendar and changed exchange sync to every hour rather than push. I'm using stamina mode with Extended Stand by, Extended Usage and Stamina Clock enabled. I sync a few google items and my outlook email. Location services are normally disabled. I've barely used my phone the past couple of days so this speaks more to what I am getting with it in stand by but I've been off the charger for 52 hours and 35 minutes and am at 52% battery remaining. My standby drain is ~.5% per hour. Which is pretty good.
edit: I'm on a moderate LTE signal most of the time, and used wi-fi for a few hours.

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