This may be a stupid one but it'll help me out. With the s-pen detection is there really a proximity sensor or does it just know the s-pen is not inserted?
I've misplaced my s-pen and occasionally my phone with notify me that I need to re-insert the pen. Does that mean the pen is close? I had it when I was in the car... Didn't have it when I walked in the house from the car. It's either in the car or in the bottom of My tattered bag but haven't found it yet. [emoji36]
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I believe there is a sensor in the pen letting you know the pen is too far. When does it go off?
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KwestJones said:
This may be a stupid one but it'll help me out. With the s-pen detection is there really a proximity sensor or does it just know the s-pen is not inserted?
I've misplaced my s-pen and occasionally my phone with notify me that I need to re-insert the pen. Does that mean the pen is close? I had it when I was in the car... Didn't have it when I walked in the house from the car. It's either in the car or in the bottom of My tattered bag but haven't found it yet. [emoji36]
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Actually, from my experimentation, it is more of a movement sensor...
The phone knows when the pen is out, and, if the user is walking, and the pen hasn't been used, it sounds an alarm. The proximity sensor for the pen is only a couple inches...
You can test this by pulling the pen, and placing it in a pocket. Walk around in a circle, with the phone in your hand. Mine sounds the alarm, I would imagine yours would as well...
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My s-pen would not stop docking and re-docking at the slights movement of the phone. I even bought a new pen. I took it apart and superglued thin strip of plastic to the switch lever to make it thicker. It works perfect now.
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Hey, have I just noticed this last night. If you use the top of the magic pen on the screen, it works just like your finger does. More specifically, it works like a capacitive stylus would! This wasn't advertised as a feature, was it? If not, I'm glad I figured it out. It makes it so I only have to use my fingers sporadically.
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HOLY CRAP YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!!!
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It's an old trick to use the negative side of a battery on a capacitive screen for a makeshift stylus. Since the negative side of the battery is cap side, it takes advantage of said trick.
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Actually it has nothing to do with a battery..
It's just a metal conductor touching your fingers with a large contact area, you could use a frozen sausage!
Use the back of a teaspoon on the screen and it works just as well!
Take care though, the metal can easily scratch the screen.
Best thing to do is attach a small piece of conductive foam (the soft black kind that delicate IC's are sold in) to the top of the pen.
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Actually it has nothing to do with a battery..
It's just a metal conductor touching your fingers with a large contact area, you could use a frozen sausage!
Use the back of a teaspoon on the screen and it works just as well!
Take care though, the metal can easily scratch the screen.
Best thing to do is attach a small piece of conductive foam (the soft black kind that delicate IC's are sold in) to the top of the pen.
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I will somewhat disagree.
While the pen may act as a conductor, holding the pen with a pair of insulated pliers and using it upside down also works. Thus, it is the battery as well
Sometimes I shouldn't be allowed to play with stuff when I get bored.
Regardless, it is a neat unintended feature
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kardain said:
I will somewhat disagree.
While the pen may act as a conductor, holding the pen with a pair of insulated pliers and using it upside down also works. Thus, it is the battery as well
Sometimes I shouldn't be allowed to play with stuff when I get bored.
Regardless, it is a neat unintended feature
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Agreed, it will work this way due to negative charge on capacitive coupling but we always look at MISS (Make it simple, stupid!)
If i can explain to readers, a better use of their pen with a nice bit of conductive foam on the top (EVEN if the battery is missing or completely flat) then that is the best option in my opinion, no need for confrontation.
Oh, BTW, your choice of pliers will have an effect on your experiment! If they have any metal content, the capacitive coupling pick-up from your hand is increased, just try it with non-conductive plastic tweezers/forceps and it won't work... We ain't talkin miiliamps here, were talkin nanoamps...
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Actually it has nothing to do with a battery..
It's just a metal conductor touching your fingers with a large contact area, you could use a frozen sausage!
Use the back of a teaspoon on the screen and it works just as well!
Take care though, the metal can easily scratch the screen.
Best thing to do is attach a small piece of conductive foam (the soft black kind that delicate IC's are sold in) to the top of the pen.
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List if things that worked
1 frozen sausage
2 popcicle
3 Starbucks straw with frapp in it
4 back of pen with battery taken out
5 sweat from my face from laughing so hard
Ps this all works on my EVO 3d as well
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Neat that those things work and all, but how cumbersome is it to use
some hulking monstrosity as a makeshift stylus that is intended to be used for delicate/precise touches such as drawing? Wrap a leaf blower in foil and connect that to 300 feet of copper wire which is spun around your body and leave a length of wire as long as your finger coming off the top of your hand and you don't even have to hold it!
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Hey, have I just noticed this last night. If you use the top of the magic pen on the screen, it works just like your finger does. More specifically, it works like a capacitive stylus would! This wasn't advertised as a feature, was it? If not, I'm glad I figured it out. It makes it so I only have to use my fingers sporadically.
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Yep this is a little old-- New news is that when Honeycomb drops it's supposed to have support for the pen tip to be used as the stylus.
So I bought a case from eBay that came from Hong Kong. It arrived to today. Its a flip case that closes with a magnet but I did not know that before I bought it. Is the magnet bad for the screen or S Pen?
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It seems if the magnet is strong it could cause issues. Although the Seidio case has a magnet on the back that does not affect the screen. I think it depends on location and strength of the magnet.
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The magnet is on the right side in the middle of the case (when its flipped closed) on top of the screen. I'll take a pic of it n put it here later when I get home. How do I know if its too strong? I really like the case but I don't want the magnet to mess up the screen, S Pen or anything else in the phone
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the strength of magnets doesn't affect the screens as much as the length of exposure. Magnets will cause a sort of dead spot for the s pen though. When you see a demo, go to a paint program and try to shade the whole screen in and you will see a circle the size of the offending magnet that won't allow itself to be colored in.
I contacted wacom, who I believe make the s pen tech and they said though magnets will cause things to not work, it won't cause any long term damage
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the strength of magnets doesn't affect the screens as much as the length of exposure. Magnets will cause a sort of dead spot for the s pen though. When you see a demo, go to a paint program and try to shade the whole screen in and you will see a circle the size of the offending magnet that won't allow itself to be colored in.
I contacted wacom, who I believe make the s pen tech and they said though magnets will cause things to not work, it won't cause any long term damage
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Oh okay. So I can keep it on n it will cause a little bit of an issue with the screen but eventually go away? I was thinking of throwing the case away but idk yet
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Well here's a pic of it. Upon further inspection the magnet seems to be next to the screen, not on top of it like I originally thought. Is there still a chance it could mess up the S Pen tho?
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xXJay_RXx said:
Well here's a pic of it. Upon further inspection the magnet seems to be next to the screen, not on top of it like I originally thought. Is there still a chance it could mess up the S Pen tho?
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The s-pen uses magnetism as a source of power. Introducing a magnet to the field simply disrupts the field and keeps the phone and the s-pen from resonating. Introducing a magnet will not harm the accuracy of the device. Removal of the magnet should immediately cease any inaccuracies with the s-pen. Long story short, use with confidence sir!
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The s-pen uses magnetism as a source of power. Introducing a magnet to the field simply disrupts the field and keeps the phone and the s-pen from resonating. Introducing a magnet will not harm the accuracy of the device. Removal of the magnet should immediately cease any inaccuracies with the s-pen. Long story short, use with confidence sir!
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Thank you :thumbup:
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Common issue on the Galaxy Note 10.1 (which is the supersized version of Note II) forum with cases with magnet affecting the Wacom pen.
I had to return my case for this very reason. There was a large round dead spot where the magnet was, moved the magnet away and the spot was fine. In addition, the note 2 manual states to not use cases with magnets, so back mine went.
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I had to return my case for this very reason. There was a large round dead spot where the magnet was, moved the magnet away and the spot was fine. In addition, the note 2 manual states to not use cases with magnets, so back mine went.
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I would return mine but to return it back to China n wait so long for a refund isn't worth the $7 I paid for
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Im still using tat type of magnet cover..
My cast that I got from Best Buy, the one that is identical to the Surface case, affects the S pen. That small magnet affects the drawing area even though its small and on the back side. Hopefully when my Active case gets here it wont have the same issue since there is the silicon case in between.
As the title says. This is the only thing I dislike about this phone. Other than that it is perfect. Anyone know how to make it recognize my face better while on the phone? It's always pressing keys and its a pain for people on the line.
Make sure your face covers the proximity sensor or buy the flap for it that they show in the commercials. You can talk with the screen covered.
I've made it so I almost never actually touch the screen with my skin because of that nice little cover. My screen is pretty and clean still.
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Make sure your face covers the proximity sensor or buy the flap for it that they show in the commercials. You can talk with the screen covered.
I've made it so I almost never actually touch the screen with my skin because of that nice little cover. My screen is pretty and clean still.
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i use the s3 case from samsung that covers the screen whist talking. its nice
Hit power button before putting up... Won't disconnect the call and no face pressing.
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Are you using a case? I've never had this issue with a naked Note2.
At first I did because I held it at a weird angle. Honestly it's probably just the way it's being held.
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Hit power button before putting up... Won't disconnect the call and no face pressing.
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Thank you..
Everyone else I had the flip case and it was a pain to keep flipping the cover when I wanted to do something. I switched to a rubber thingy to protect it from falls.
Is there anyone else experienced like this issue ??
My genuine S-View cover sometimes not detect cover open, i try two or three times again, finally it works...
So, am i have faulty one or is it normal ??
Same as well.
I have zero issue with my s view case
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I returned my s-view to T-Mobile today and got a Tech21. The s-view features were neat but the case would not stay closed causing my Note to wake. I also felt it offered little real protection if it dropped and the lid flopped open it would be like having no case @ all. (imagine it skidding down the driveway with the s-view opening and closing)
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I returned my s-view to T-Mobile today and got a Tech21. The s-view features were neat but the case would not stay closed causing my Note to wake. I also felt it offered little real protection if it dropped and the lid flopped open it would be like having no case @ all. (imagine it skidding down the driveway with the s-view opening and closing)
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Just got my S view case today and I am really liking it. There is nothing keeping the flap down, but I think in a drop it will be decently protected.
Also I thought it would be much more bulkier than it is. Folded back you can hardly tell it's there, other than the edges cutting your fingers
I got mine yesterday and I noticed that I on the right edge (where the stitches are) I had to run my finger across it.
It help the cover stay closed.
I feel that the S-view case needs to have more viewing options. It is very limited to accessing the camera, action memo, and music player. I also don;t like that we can only view incoming calls and text. There should be more options for other apps or at least access notification panel.
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I got mine yesterday and I noticed that I on the right edge (where the stitches are) I had to run my finger across it.
It help the cover stay closed.
I feel that the S-view case needs to have more viewing options. It is very limited to accessing the camera, action memo, and music player. I also don;t like that we can only view incoming calls and text. There should be more options for other apps or at least access notification panel.
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I agree, it even displays less icons in the notification bar through the window. Almost a step back from that perspective.
How does "auto on" work when I open my cover?
I have some cover here but when I open it S3 doesn't wake up.
Not everyone cover does function but what does it depend on?
There has to be a magnet embedded in the cover in a certain spot.
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I have the original tab s3 keyboard cover and it doesn't wake the tablet as well.
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I've tried 3 aftermarket covers and they all wake the tablet when I open it. Unfortunately I did not get the keyboard cover. (Too expensive here in the US)
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I have this on from amazon:
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There is also a small magnet in the front cover but how shoul it work.? Maybe some bug in samsung software?
I think the ambient light sensor manages the auto on function.
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I have this on from amazon:
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There is also a small magnet in the front cover but how shoul it work.? Maybe some bug in samsung software?
I think the ambient light sensor manages the auto on function.
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I'm pretty sure it's the magnet. It works in the total darkness for me, and manually covering/uncovering the ambient light sensor does not wake the tablet.
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There is a sensor in the top left corner of the tablet (when in portrait mode). You can try it using a small magnet.
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Now I found in each corner magnets.
But using a small magnet even with two pieces on both sides simultaneously tablet still wont wake up...
But something I must do wrong: my old Galaxy Tab S works without problems but for testing I can not bring it with my magnets for wake up...
Try a different cover/case. It must be a "smart" cover made specificaly for the Tab S3. If it is not a "smart" cover, the automatic screen on/off function will not work. Also, Samsung's keyboard cover/case does not include the neccessary magnet so you have to use the power button; their regular (non-keyboard) cover has the magnet and works perfectly
the samsung OEM official keyboard cover does have sort of "auto sleep/wake" function.
HOWEVER, IT WORKS AS FOLLOWS: tablet turns on when connected to pogo pins on keyboard......tablet turns off when disconnected from pogo pins.....
confirmed on my model this evening.
check the following:
go to settings > system > accessories.......then turn "on" automatic unlock.
The seller of this case claims it doesn't have wakelock magnets but it does... dont bother
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Attached photo is without the cover folded to the back..its MUCH worse when it is but I wasnt going to risk damaging my tablet to to take another screenshot..lol