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Hi guys,
I've been looking fruitlessly for an FAQ where the following stuff is described:
- discussion of the different governors (smartass/smoothass/performance/...)
- discussion of the methods for overclocking (is NoFrills the only/preferred way to set overclocking, or are there better tools?)
thanks for pointing me in the right direction...
dryhte said:
Hi guys,
I've been looking fruitlessly for an FAQ where the following stuff is described:
- discussion of the different governors (smartass/smoothass/performance/...)
- discussion of the methods for overclocking (is NoFrills the only/preferred way to set overclocking, or are there better tools?)
thanks for pointing me in the right direction...
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Hi Drythe,
I don't know if there's a FAQ around here for that. As far as OC apps are concerned I've only used SetCPU which is free for download at its XDA thread. I guess NoFrills does the same as SetCPU but I've never tried it out as I never needed to. If you're using CM7 and you have CM's submenu under settings you can even set there the min/max CPU frequencies, the governor and the set-on-boot option. That's the standard options. SetCPU also gives you the possibility of defining min/max/governor profiles for a number of different scenarios (battery percentage or temperature;screen on/off, etc.) As for a way of setting the OC, any one of them is enough and none will give you better OC per se, of course
Choose the one you like the most and use it, it won't make a difference on the OC.
About the governors, some of them are self-explanatory (conservative, powersave, performance,...), some of them may not be. You'd be better off googling for the specific governor you want to know about and reading some results about it.
If you have the time and compile that information into a new thread, the better.
Happy OCing!
Cheers!
And when you do, please post in relevant section (not dev )
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And when you do, please post in relevant section (not dev )
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Yes yes yes...
By the way, Smoothass appears to be a very elusive target. I'm using it but couldn't find any info
Smoothass is an improved smartass. The way it scales between the frequencies was changed but mantains the smartass original concept. From what I reckon, smoothass is the advisable one to use.
Cheers.
is smoothass an improved smartass like said above?
sry,
for making a new thread bt please if anyone can help me... i can't find overclocking option in cwm settings/performance i hade undervolt option bt.. not overclock.... i just had these option
im using latest minicm2.1.9 with nAa-11
Change the max cpu frequency and min frequncy value..(its shown in the screenshot) If u increase the value you overclock it..
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You can change the values right in the settings themselves or you can get an app for it. Like setCPU or Antutu CPUMaster!
maybe you think about a "overclock option" or something implemented in cm settings. Remember that overclock means increase the speed of the processor, so, if you set the speed over 600 mhz, you are overclocking your device . Setting speeds lower than some values are also called underclock . Hope it helps
Hi there, I am using Omega V9.0 with SiyahKernel S3 v1.3.8 and the app EdTweaks. But I can not get hoger than 1.6MHz. I read the specs and it said steps to 1.8GHz with the SiyahKernel S3 v1.3.8.
Is it somewhere hidden?
You need more voltage, but take care.
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Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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sxi200 said:
Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
I overclocked my calculator the other day. I got 1,9 MHz. Crazy.
My phone does 1,8 GHz
master64nl said:
But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
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Hi,
For the 1.8Ghz slot the voltage is 1450mV, try by 25mV steps...
But I don't know the "tolerance" of maximum voltage, in my opinion don't go above 1500mV.
Maybe your CPU can't handle 1.8Ghz, if it's like some other phones, some can handle higher overclock, others can't...
You can use SetCpu, mostly don't set anything at boot...
EDIT:Re reading the OP..., in fact you do not see the 1.8Ghz slot???
Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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nodstuff said:
Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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Hi,
That's what I thought after thought , thanks.
It's right in ExTweaks there is not the 1.7/1.8Ghz slots
So you can use SetCpu, the 1.7Ghz and 1.8Ghz slots are present.
Originally Posted by sxi200
Use Voltage Control or similar from the Play Store.
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But I don`t know what settings for the voltage to get 1.8MHz?
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Voltage control will override the extweaks settings and sets the voltage according to your oc selection. Just open it and set to 1.8. If all is well you can set it at boot. If nit just reboot and reset but increase the voltage.
You can also check to see what it's running using CPU spy.
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victorator said:
I overclocked my calculator the other day. I got 1,9 MHz. Crazy.
My phone does 1,8 GHz
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:laugh: I mean 1.8GHz :laugh:
nodstuff said:
Guys I think he is asking why you cannot OC higher than 1600mhz in extweaks.
I don't know whh that happens but you can use setcpu to OC to 1800mhz.
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Yes, that what I ment :good:
Thanks everyone for thinking with me.
sxi200 said:
Voltage control will override the extweaks settings and sets the voltage according to your oc selection. Just open it and set to 1.8. If all is well you can set it at boot. If nit just reboot and reset but increase the voltage.
You can also check to see what it's running using CPU spy.
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But in ExTweaks there is no CPU slot for 1.7 or 1.8GHz. Only 1.6GHz. It has CPU undervolting. Is standard on NO.
But you can override GPU voltages levels. I don`t know how to use these or does it effect on the CPU?
I have use the app CPU Master of AnTuTu. Here there is a 1.8HHz slot but after rebooting and after a benchmark it is still 1.6GHz???
Perhaps I have to use the app SetCPU.
In Cpu Master have you tick set on boot?
Maybe a bit risky to 1.8Ghz unless you have tested this frequency for a long time and all is fine.
In any case with SetCpu the CPU freq remains after reboot.
And this is what I said, in ExTweaks there is not 1.7 and 1.8Ghz slot...Maybe ask to gokhanmoral why or if this is normal?
And the GPU setting affects only the GPU, not the CPU.
You can also try System Tuner on the Play Store for yours CPU settings, but be careful to not multiply the CPU apps setting to avoid conflicts in case of different settings in each apps
For example use only ExTweaks for your GPU settings and only SetCpu for your CPU settings... not more.
viking37 said:
In Cpu Master have you tick set on boot? Probably not, must check it.
Maybe a bit risky to 1.8Ghz unless you have tested this frequency for a long time and all is fine.
In any case with SetCpu the CPU freq remains after reboot.
And this is what I said, in ExTweaks there is not 1.7 and 1.8Ghz slot...Maybe ask to gokhanmoral why or if this is normal?
And the GPU setting affects only the GPU, not the CPU.
You can also try System Tuner on the Play Store for yours CPU settings, but be careful to not multiply the CPU apps setting to avoid conflicts in case of different settings in each apps
For example use only ExTweaks for your GPU settings and only SetCpu for your CPU settings... not more.
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So it is better to leave this way, only use ExTweak and uninstall the other tweak apps?
Yes, I would say to keep only one app for your CPU settings.If the 1.6Ghz slot is good enough for you or your usage keep it like that.If you want test above 1.6Ghz then installs SetCpu but use only SetCpu for your CPU settings, not extweaks because there could be conflicts (maybe) if you set 1.6Ghz in ExTweaks and 1.8Ghz in SetCpu, not normally but you never know.
And with ExTweaks you can set many other things with Siyah kernel like GPU, sound, etc... so with this kernel ExTweaks is the best app, obiously
It really depends on what you want LOL, SetCpu is very complete for CPU settings but only for that (volatge, governor settings).
In my opinion just keep ExTweaks with your overclock at 1.6Ghz and you are good!
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But in ExTweaks there is no CPU slot for 1.7 or 1.8GHz. Only 1.6GHz. It has CPU undervolting. Is standard on NO.
But you can override GPU voltages levels. I don`t know how to use these or does it effect on the CPU?
I have use the app CPU Master of AnTuTu. Here there is a 1.8HHz slot but after rebooting and after a benchmark it is still 1.6GHz???
Perhaps I have to use the app SetCPU.
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When I said voltage control, I didn't mean voltage control in extweaks. Voltage Control is an app in the play store which will allow you to set the CPU to 1.8. It overrides the settings used in extweaks. Set it to 1.8 and it will adjust the voltages accordingly. You can even change them independently if you like. Test at 1.8 for a few days and if you have no problems then tick to set it at boot. You will know if it's overclocked to 1.8 with CPU spy also from the play store.
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Aha
sxi200 said:
When I said voltage control, I didn't mean voltage control in extweaks. Voltage Control is an app in the play store which will allow you to set the CPU to 1.8. It overrides the settings used in extweaks. Set it to 1.8 and it will adjust the voltages accordingly. You can even change them independently if you like. Test at 1.8 for a few days and if you have no problems then tick to set it at boot. You will know if it's overclocked to 1.8 with CPU spy also from the play store.
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Aha voltage control is an app. I will look for it and found it. Finally there is the 1.8GHz :victory:
What to set with on demand? In ExTweaks they use pegasusq and in Voltage Control they use ondemand. There is also hotplug and performance. Is it better to deinstall the other tweak cpu apps?
Anyway this does not work. The same with CPU Master. Set it on 1.8GHz but it is hanging now with a benchmark. After rebooting it is back at 1.6GHz. Do I have to use another kernel?
viking37 said:
Yes, I would say to keep only one app for your CPU settings.If the 1.6Ghz slot is good enough for you or your usage keep it like that.If you want test above 1.6Ghz then installs SetCpu but use only SetCpu for your CPU settings, not extweaks because there could be conflicts (maybe) if you set 1.6Ghz in ExTweaks and 1.8Ghz in SetCpu, not normally but you never know.
And with ExTweaks you can set many other things with Siyah kernel like GPU, sound, etc... so with this kernel ExTweaks is the best app, obiously
It really depends on what you want LOL, SetCpu is very complete for CPU settings but only for that (volatge, governor settings).
In my opinion just keep ExTweaks with your overclock at 1.6Ghz and you are good!
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First I try what sxi200 said about Voltage Control.
I am not happy
Tested the Voltage Control but after setting it on 1.8GHz and tried a benchmark it is dead :crying:
Had to put the battery out for 10 minutes. I think I use ExTweaks with the Siyah kernel at 1.6GHz pffffffff
master64nl said:
Aha voltage control is an app. I will look for it and found it. Finally there is the 1.8GHz :victory:
What to set with on demand? In ExTweaks they use pegasusq and in Voltage Control they use ondemand. There is also hotplug and performance. Is it better to deinstall the other tweak cpu apps?
Anyway this does not work. The same with CPU Master. Set it on 1.8GHz but it is hanging now with a benchmark. After rebooting it is back at 1.6GHz. Do I have to use another kernel?
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Yeah I did set it to 1.8 a while ago and it also hung during benchmark tests. Maybe it needs more voltage at 1.8. Might be worth a try increasing it in the Voltage Control app.
After reboot it goes back to 1.6 unless you set it at boot within the vc app. But risky until you sort out the freezing issues. I'd recommend not to set it for now.
Personally, I found 1.6 to be fast enough so I just use extweaks. Also probably better for battery as well.
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Hi All..
First lemme give my phone details:
Galaxy S3 International (i9300)
Kernel : Siyah 1.8.9
ROMs (Dual Boot)
: WanamLite v5.5 (based on ZSEMA1)
CM10.1 Nightly
MODS : JKAY framework
My problem is that there is noticeable UI lags when in the homescreen or the app drawer.
I have not overclocked/underclocked the CPU. Have no undervoltage setting as well. In STweaks, the max CPU freq is set to the stock 1400Mhz and the min CPU freq is set to the recommended 200Mhz. And I have kept the "touch boost level" to 1200Mhz.
When I see the UI lags, I used CPU spy to monitor the CPU speeds. What I could see was that the speeds were at the lower end (200 - 800 Mhz) !!! Since the touch boost level is set to 1200, shouldn't the CPU jump to 1200 Mhz when I unlock/touch the screen ? I agree that the CPU speed needn't stay at 1200Mhz after the speed boost, but shouldn't it stay at a freq to ensure that there is no UI lag ?
If the operating freq is at 1400Mhz, the UI is perfect !!! It goes to this state automatically usually (takes a while ), or manually I can make this happen by setting the min CPU freq to say 1300 MHz from STweaks. Once this state is hit, the UI wrks with no lag until say I lock the screen, or maybe the device goes to sleep for a while.
Any ideas as to why the CPU freq stays at lower values and doesn't come up enough to give a lag free UI ?
stanzlavos said:
Hi All..
First lemme give my phone details:
Galaxy S3 International (i9300)
Kernel : Siyah 1.8.9
ROMs (Dual Boot)
: WanamLite v5.5 (based on ZSEMA1)
CM10.1 Nightly
MODS : JKAY framework
My problem is that there is noticeable UI lags when in the homescreen or the app drawer.
I have not overclocked/underclocked the CPU. Have no undervoltage setting as well. In STweaks, the max CPU freq is set to the stock 1400Mhz and the min CPU freq is set to the recommended 200Mhz. And I have kept the "touch boost level" to 1200Mhz.
When I see the UI lags, I used CPU spy to monitor the CPU speeds. What I could see was that the speeds were at the lower end (200 - 800 Mhz) !!! Since the touch boost level is set to 1200, shouldn't the CPU jump to 1200 Mhz when I unlock/touch the screen ? I agree that the CPU speed needn't stay at 1200Mhz after the speed boost, but shouldn't it stay at a freq to ensure that there is no UI lag ?
If the operating freq is at 1400Mhz, the UI is perfect !!! It goes to this state automatically usually (takes a while ), or manually I can make this happen by setting the min CPU freq to say 1300 MHz from STweaks. Once this state is hit, the UI wrks with no lag until say I lock the screen, or maybe the device goes to sleep for a while.
Any ideas as to why the CPU freq stays at lower values and doesn't come up enough to give a lag free UI ?
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ANNNNNNNNNNNND what rom are you talking about!?! CM10.1 or Samsung? if you want a LAGG FREE phone do the following.
1: OverClock the CPU to 1.6ghz, then set min to 500mhz, use a -25mV or a -50mV
2: Set Governor to LULZACTIVEQ
3: Set MIN GPU freq to 266mhz
4: Set MAX GPU freq to 640mhz
5: Disable "gentle fair sleepers" on the CPU tab
6: Set the SCHEDULER to CFQ
7: Go to settings and enable GPU rendering
and FINALLY if non of the above work, FLASH Null_22.1 for a Samsung ROM. and Revolt, cm10.1, jellybam for a AOSP rom.
IF NON OF THAT WORK'S download super wipe and flash a new phone.
Can I just say, 1200mhz?!?! Default is 800 and I'm using 700 on my device. It's a bit extreme.
Perhaps your governor is affecting smoothness. Try using pegasusq. Or it may be the app your using to change CPU frequency doesn't even have ROOT access
International S III 16GB / CM10.1 / Gokhan's SK
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ANNNNNNNNNNNND what rom are you talking about!?! CM10.1 or Samsung? if you want a LAGG FREE phone do the following.
1: OverClock the CPU to 1.6ghz, then set min to 500mhz, use a -25mV or a -50mV
2: Set Governor to LULZACTIVEQ
3: Set MIN GPU freq to 266mhz
4: Set MAX GPU freq to 640mhz
5: Disable "gentle fair sleepers" on the CPU tab
6: Set the SCHEDULER to CFQ
7: Go to settings and enable GPU rendering and disable hardware overlays (resets on boot)
and FINALLY if non of the above work, FLASH Null_22.1 for a Samsung ROM. and Revolt, cm10.1, jellybam for a AOSP rom.
IF NON OF THAT WORK'S download super wipe and flash a new phone.
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No. Do not disable hardware overlays. That will, if anything, cause your device to lag more.
Theshawty said:
No. Do not disable hardware overlays. That will, if anything, cause your device to lag more.
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O_O not in my case..
paintball23456 said:
O_O not in my case..
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This is a quote from a guy over at rootzwiki
Without a hardware overlay every application that is displaying things on the screen will share video memory and will have to constantly check for collision and clipping to render a proper image, this can cost a lot of processing power. With a hardware overlay each application gets its own portion of video memory, getting rid of the need to check for collision and clipping.
Basically, using hardware overlays can reduce CPU usage by quite a bit, so I would leave it enabled.
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This is a quote from a guy over at rootzwiki
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Right.. then why dafudge is my s3 SMOOTHER with it enabled?
paintball23456 said:
Right.. then why dafudge is my s3 SMOOTHER with it enabled?
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Maybe you're just lucky, I dunno. It's better to let a real dev share his/her input on this. I'm merely a noob who knows how to Google...
Theshawty said:
Maybe you're just lucky, I dunno. It's better to let a real dev share his/her input on this. I'm merely a noob who knows how to Google...
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L.O.L but not that big of a noob... thanks for the info - and also reminding me for the 100,000,000,000,000 time to sign up to rootwiki
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L.O.L but not that big of a noob... thanks for the info - and also reminding me for the 100,000,000,000,000 time to sign up to rootwiki
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Heh, maybe not.
Uhm, you're welcome, I guess? :good:
It's probably smoother due to the fact that the CPU will be working at a higher frequency more often. Those that have disabled hardware overlays are causing their CPU to ramp up every time an application has to render an image
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ANNNNNNNNNNNND what rom are you talking about!?! CM10.1 or Samsung? if you want a LAGG FREE phone do the following.
1: OverClock the CPU to 1.6ghz, then set min to 500mhz, use a -25mV or a -50mV
2: Set Governor to LULZACTIVEQ
3: Set MIN GPU freq to 266mhz
4: Set MAX GPU freq to 640mhz
5: Disable "gentle fair sleepers" on the CPU tab
6: Set the SCHEDULER to CFQ
7: Go to settings and enable GPU rendering
and FINALLY if non of the above work, FLASH Null_22.1 for a Samsung ROM. and Revolt, cm10.1, jellybam for a AOSP rom.
IF NON OF THAT WORK'S download super wipe and flash a new phone.
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The lag is more obvious in the Touchwiz based Wanamlite ROM.
1) As i said, when running at 1.4Ghz (with stock voltage settings) itsef the UI is smooth. So I don't actually want to overclock. . The problem is that the CPU speed doesn't rise up and stays between 200-800 causing the lag.
2) Will try changing the governor (first let me read how it is different from pegasusq ).
3,4) Again, with stock settings itself the UI is smooth. The problem is what i have said under point 1.
5) Already done.
6) WIll try setting scheduler to CFQ (again, lemme read bout it first )
7) GPU rendering is already ticketd. Hardware overlays are not disabled (thought this would increase the lag).
Is NULL_22.1 a Touchwiz based ROM ? And Jelybam is an AOKP ROM I supose ?
Wouldn't want to do the last option.
Also, I saw that you have mentioned three ROMs in your signature. Siyah lets you dual boot right, how come 3 ? Or were you just talking about your preference ?
And, does siyah 1.8.9 for the S3 let us boot with NULL_22.1 and jellybam in dual boot? Are all these combos possible ?
Sammy + CM10.1 (this works, I knw )
Sammy + AOKP
AOKP + CM10.1
raminica seemed
23Six said:
Can I just say, 1200mhz?!?! Default is 800 and I'm using 700 on my device. It's a bit extreme.
Perhaps your governor is affecting smoothness. Try using pegasusq. Or it may be the app your using to change CPU frequency doesn't even have ROOT access
International S III 16GB / CM10.1 / Gokhan's SK
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From what I understood, it just boosts upto 1200Mhz on touch and needn't stay there. Right ? The only downside there is battery life I suppose ?
Am already using pegasusq and yes, sTweaks does have root access.
Hi, I have a rooted SGH-i777. I am using the Resurrection Remix 4.0.5 rom and running the latest AJK kernal. I used Set CPU to change my CPU speed and i set it as 1200 as the highest mHz and 500 as the lowest. I use the performance governor but all the time, when I check SetCpu, it says that the max is 500 mHz and I always have to touch 1200mHz on my screen to make it go back to 1200 mHz. Please help! Thanks
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Hi, I have a rooted SGH-i777. I am using the Resurrection Remix 4.0.5 rom and running the latest AJK kernal. I used Set CPU to change my CPU speed and i set it as 1200 as the highest mHz and 500 as the lowest. I use the performance governor but all the time, when I check SetCpu, it says that the max is 500 mHz and I always have to touch 1200mHz on my screen to make it go back to 1200 mHz. Please help! Thanks
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AJK has CPU clock built in on stweaks. Open stweaks and look under the CPU tab. Use stweaks to control the CPU and ditch set CPU. By using them both you're making contradictions in CPU logic.
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AJK has CPU clock built in on stweaks. Open stweaks and look under the CPU tab. Use stweaks to control the CPU and ditch set CPU. By using them both you're making contradictions in CPU logic.
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Sorry for being a noob but where can I change the governor?
gainstatom said:
Sorry for being a noob but where can I change the governor?
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There are two governors awake and asleep. Scroll right in stweaks. Each has it's own tab
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Also there Is a q&a thread for AJK here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43954171