For the time since having an android phone I haven't rooted on day 1. But this horrible tether limit is getting annoying and I think I'm going to root. I haven't yet because of this Knox business, if were not any closer to rooting without tripping the Knox I'm going to do it tonight..
Does anyone know of anyone working on a way to root without tripping it yet?? Or does it look like its not going to happen???
Thanks
fastfed said:
For the time since having an android phone I haven't rooted on day 1. But this horrible tether limit is getting annoying and I think I'm going to root. I haven't yet because of this Knox business, if were not any closer to rooting without tripping the Knox I'm going to do it tonight..
Does anyone know of anyone working on a way to root without tripping it yet?? Or does it look like its not going to happen???
Thanks
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Not gonna happen any time soon
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Thanks.. Rooting now!
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Not gonna happen any time soon
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What makes you say that? On the note 3, the root which didn't trip Knox came out one week after the first root
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What makes you say that? On the note 3, the root which didn't trip Knox came out one week after the first root
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As far as I know the Note 3 had knox implemented in an ota update, meaning its software based. The S5, however, has a hardware implementation in the form of an efuse which blows when a non samsung signed kernel is flashed. At least thats my understanding
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As far as I know the Note 3 had knox implemented in an ota update, meaning its software based. The S5, however, has a hardware implementation in the form of an efuse which blows when a non samsung signed kernel is flashed. At least thats my understanding
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Are you referring to the S4 because the Note 3 has the same efuse crap S5 has. Was the first phone with it
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Are you referring to the S4 because the Note 3 has the same efuse crap S5 has. Was the first phone with it
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No I had my facts slightly wrong. You're right it does have the efuse and can now be rooted without tripping knox but custom recoveries will still trip it.
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Which root method doesn't trip Knox?
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Which root method doesn't trip Knox?
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There isnt one for the S5
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There isnt one for the S5
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Screw it, thats what I think at least. Personally, I don't ever see me needing to get warranty on this phone. As for the Jump plan I have, they never checked a thing when I went in, so I assume I'll be good when that happens. I ahve insurance so even if it did break/malfunction, I'll just break it and pay the 150.00 bucks
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Screw it, thats what I think at least. Personally, I don't ever see me needing to get warranty on this phone. As for the Jump plan I have, they never checked a thing when I went in, so I assume I'll be good when that happens. I ahve insurance so even if it did break/malfunction, I'll just break it and pay the 150.00 bucks
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Exactly. Or report it as stolen and sell the parts
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So rooting doesn't cause knox tripping, but custom recovery will?
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So rooting doesn't cause knox tripping, but custom recovery will?
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Right... however we dont have a method of rooting that doesnt use a custom recovery
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I don't see the big deal with knox. With knox tripped the tmobile store will still take it no problem. Usually the first thing I do when I get a phone is root it and knox is never a worry of mine
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I don't see the big deal with knox. With knox tripped the tmobile store will still take it no problem. Usually the first thing I do when I get a phone is root it and knox is never a worry of mine
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Except we've had some reports of people being declined by tmobile because of tripped knox
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Except we've had some reports of people being declined by tmobile because of tripped knox
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a person I know tripped a knox in....note 2 i think? swapped it with a new note 2 because he dropped it. when he went to get the note 3, Tmobile declined him unless if he paid up front because of the knox. he used insurance to get it switched out. So they do check at some point it seems and note you.
Watch out, they will be checking
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Screw it, thats what I think at least. Personally, I don't ever see me needing to get warranty on this phone. As for the Jump plan I have, they never checked a thing when I went in, so I assume I'll be good when that happens. I ahve insurance so even if it did break/malfunction, I'll just break it and pay the 150.00 bucks
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You may have skipped by and got lucky like me the first time, but I know for a fact that the policy of the Jump company is telling them to check the KNOX counter. I believe and was told at the TMO store that they will be checking and are required to check otherwise the Jump program will take the money from TMO. So TMO is now going to hold employees accountable who do not check to see if KNOX is tripped and JUMP catches it. Just saying, hate to waste one hundred and fifty dollars every time I jump! It's bad enough just paying the damn sales tax! Then buying all the extras like a case, battery, etc.
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I don't see the big deal with knox. With knox tripped the tmobile store will still take it no problem. Usually the first thing I do when I get a phone is root it and knox is never a worry of mine
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You realize Knox was not on my Galaxy Note 3 when I received it, it came almost six months later. It is now a hardware, firmware feature of the phone and the TMO stores will be checking for it. We all got lucky this last time around but it will not be so when it comes time to Jump again. So be aware of that and find other ways to replace your phone or you'll be paying extra every time.
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So rooting doesn't cause knox tripping, but custom recovery will?
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Right... however we dont have a method of rooting that doesnt use a custom recovery
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For me, flashing Philz custom recovery through ODIN did not trip my bootloader's knox counter. I thought it was very odd and that maybe I got lucky. Then I flashed the SU zip file through the custom recovery and then my counter was tripped.
Instead of doing an insurance replacement, you could just do a free warranty replacement to get a phone without knox tripped.
Don't mean to troll, but on a side note, we poor AT&T S5 folks are waiting for even a very basic root
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We have root options now that don't trip knox, is there any other reason why I should wait to root my note 3? Or is now as good a time as any?
mike208 said:
We have root options now that don't trip knox, is there any other reason why I should wait to root my note 3? Or is now as good a time as any?
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If you feel inclined to, then go for it! If you want to keep your KNOX at 0x0 be careful but if you don't care, splurge.
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We have root options now that don't trip knox, is there any other reason why I should wait to root my note 3? Or is now as good a time as any?
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Only worries about warrantee .. If you don't care about that go get kingoapp and route away. .
I would make sure your upgraded to mj4 first thought
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Only worries about warrantee .. If you don't care about that go get kingoapp and route away. .
I would make sure your upgraded to mj4 first thought
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Well I have best buy insurance, and if my phone breaks I will just make sure its really broke, so I am not too worried about the warranty.
Just wondering if I should wait till it was more fool proof. But it sounds easy enough and kingoapp shouldn't even trip knox. I can wait on roms for now, but I really want to root so I can change my dpi.
Hello all, I have been wondering about all of this KNOX stuff. I understand what it does and that once you flag it you can "never" go back, and that your warranty is voided... BUT I hope there is people (with a much greater understanding than I) looking into this.
Resetting your KNOX count to 0x0 after you install a custom OS.
I don't know about you all, but I like the saying "never say never".
There is not a thread that I saw concerning knox on the S5, so why not start one now? Who has tripped KNOX on their S5?
Has there been any cases where although you rooted and flashed a rom, your KNOX count stayed at 0x0?
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Hello all, I have been wondering about all of this KNOX stuff. I understand what it does and that once you flag it you can "never" go back, and that your warranty is voided... BUT I hope there is people (with a much greater understanding than I) looking into this.
Resetting your KNOX count to 0x0 after you install a custom OS.
I don't know about you all, but I like the saying "never say never".
There is not a thread that I saw concerning knox on the S5, so why not start one now? Who has tripped KNOX on their S5?
Has there been any cases where although you rooted and flashed a rom, your KNOX count stayed at 0x0?
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Everyone has tripped their knox counter. there has been recent developments I believe on the note 3 side of things. Ways to undo it to my understanding. More importantly it kinda let's go of the thought that it was a fuse, hardware issue. Looking more like a software, it's possible. Who knows when or if ever comes here
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Check this. ..
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-now-secured-with-knox-2-0-20140507/
Hmmm
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Everyone has tripped their knox counter. there has been recent developments I believe on the note 3 side of things. Ways to undo it to my understanding. More importantly it kinda let's go of the thought that it was a fuse, hardware issue. Looking more like a software, it's possible. Who knows when or if ever comes here
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Interesting. I dont think it is hardware related either. I think it will be found out sooner or later.
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Odds are its permanent. After reading some posts from the big, recognized kernel devs, it seems like its an eFuse that gets blown when knox is tripped. The only way to fix a blown fuse is to replace it. The progress they made on the note 3 will likely have nothing to do with us, it seems the exynos has a different implementation of knox than qualcomm.
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Odds are its permanent. After reading some posts from the big, recognized kernel devs, it seems like its an eFuse that gets blown when knox is tripped. The only way to fix a blown fuse is to replace it. The progress they made on the note 3 will likely have nothing to do with us, it seems the exynos has a different implementation of knox than qualcomm.
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Oh okay, I hope that isnt the case. So if it is a fuse, it can be replaced... is that an option if you want it reset?
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Basically all Knox does is just void your devices warranty? I tripped my Knox counter on my Gs4 and I still did a warranty replacement with no problems.Im a little confused here about Knox could someone please explain a little bit. Thanks In advance!!!
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Oh okay, I hope that isnt the case. So if it is a fuse, it can be replaced... is that an option if you want it reset?
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I guess its possible if it's a hardware fuse, although it'll be damn hard. The alternative is its some sort of deeply embedded kernel partition type thing (im clearly not a developer ) that only samsung signed pckages can write to. I think our best bet would be to find a way to bypass the knox check at boot and find a way to "trick" the kernel into thinking its not tripped, you following? Again im not a developer so i dont know if this is even a legitimate possibility.
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xda23 said:
Basically all Knox does is just void your devices warranty? I tripped my Knox counter on my Gs4 and I still did a warranty replacement with no problems.Im a little confused here about Knox could someone please explain a little bit. Thanks In advance!!!
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Knox is implemented differently in the two devices. My understanding is that in the S4 it was provided in an OTA update and is software based. It seems like its Hardware based on the S5.
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Interesting article on KNOX, it states that it is implemented in the hardware as well as the software.
http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2013/02/25/Samsung-unveils-Samsung-KNOX-for-secure-BYOD-1
Guys, i want to install CM11 in my Galaxy SIII (GT-i9300) but i have affraid that in the future the phone may breaks and i need the warranty to repair it. So how much time do you think that i should wait before doing modifications to my phone. I bought my Galaxy SIII In the end of march 28 of march i think.
Please give me answers. I'm tired of this touchwizz crap being slow -.-
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Guys, i want to install CM11 in my Galaxy SIII (GT-i9300) but i have affraid that in the future the phone may breaks and i need the warranty to repair it. So how much time do you think that i should wait before doing modifications to my phone. I bought my Galaxy SIII In the end of march 28 of march i think.
Please give me answers. I'm tired of this touchwizz crap being slow -.-
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I think if you are confident enough to do the modifications you should do it, what can happen is a soft brick which can be fixed with Odin. Hardware bricks are rare. Though you should decide for yourself, the only thing I'm telling you is that there's no point to wait as long as you want to do it and you know what you're doing. If you need help you can ask me anytime
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I think if you are confident enough to do the modifications you should do it, what can happen is a soft brick which can be fixed with Odin. Hardware bricks are rare. Though you should decide for yourself, the only thing I'm telling you is that there's no point to wait as long as you want to do it and you know what you're doing. If you need help you can ask me anytime
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I have affraid of problems on hardware, like screen or touch that doesn't work or motherboard burned (sudden death problems for example)
Sudden death shouldn't be a problem with newer firmwares, but other hardware issues are relatively rare, so I'd go ahead my phone stayed stock for approximately 6 - 7 hours.
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Sudden death shouldn't be a problem with newer firmwares, but other hardware issues are relatively rare, so I'd go ahead my phone stayed stock for approximately 6 - 7 hours.
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And your phone never had a problem with hardware?
No never. I had a SanDisk SD card fail on me, but that was replaced under warranty but nothing Samsung related.
But it's your warranty so bear in mind that they may reject any claim, although in the UK the fact that you've modified software does not give them the right to decline a hardware claim.
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No never. I had a SanDisk SD card fail on me, but that was replaced under warranty but nothing Samsung related.
But it's your warranty so bear in mind that they may reject any claim, although in the UK the fact that you've modified software does not give them the right to decline a hardware claim.
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I am portuguese and i live in portugal. And i have affraid of losing the warrant and my phone brokes and i don't have warranty
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I am portuguese and i live in portugal. And i have affraid of losing the warrant and my phone brokes and i don't have warranty
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I don't think you should be that afraid of doing it. The chance of a fail is very low and the sudden death syndrome has been fixed long time ago. If you really want it, give it a shot... Personally I've never had any hardware related problems while flashing ROMs
And also the European buyer protection law is on your side
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I don't think you should be that afraid of doing it. The chance of a fail is very low and the sudden death syndrome has been fixed long time ago. If you really want it, give it a shot... Personally I've never had any hardware related problems while flashing ROMs
And also the European buyer protection law is on your side
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So you trust in that cyanogenmod installer?
eskorpiao112 said:
So you trust in that cyanogenmod installer?
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Actually I've never used it. I did the zip way xD
if you need help with that I can help you.
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Actually I've never used it. I did the zip way xD
if you need help with that I can help you.
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Thanks dude. I will think about doing that. I have many things to think and i have affraid of doing that :/
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Thanks dude. I will think about doing that. I have many things to think and i have affraid of doing that :/
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Just take your time in thinking... One can never think too much xD
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Just take your time in thinking... One can never think too much xD
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Ahah dude. I will wait more time for doing changes.
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Ahah dude. I will wait more time for doing changes.
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Sure, let me know what you decide
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Sure, let me know what you decide
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Okay dude. Thanks for the help!
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Actually I've never used it. I did the zip way xD
if you need help with that I can help you.
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I'm with you there, if you do it by hand you should have a better idea of what is going on, and imho if you don't have the time to learn what's involved then you should query whether you really want to go down the custom root
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I'm with you there, if you do it by hand you should have a better idea of what is going on, and imho if you don't have the time to learn what's involved then you should query whether you really want to go down the custom root
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I usually install custom roms on my phones but this phone was expensive and i dont want to lose the warranty
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I usually install custom roms on my phones but this phone was expensive and i dont want to lose the warranty
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Then don't do it, although I went custom route from day 1 I was using stock based roms until recently, this is the first Android device I actually felt comfortable using stock even if it was a little flabby.
Stick a launcher on and look around here there is a lot you can do without even rooting your device, there really is no hurry to do anything.
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Then don't do it, although I went custom route from day 1 I was using stock based roms until recently, this is the first Android device I actually felt comfortable using stock even if it was a little flabby.
Stick a launcher on and look around here there is a lot you can do without even rooting your device, there really is no hurry to do anything.
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Yes. And with the update cancelled i will wait for some update.
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when u are ready to root and flash custom rom, flash a custom recovery like cwm too. NANDROID BACK UP straight away after flashing custom recovery. The cyanogenmod installer is safe to use. I have personally used it and it was smooth. Back up ur efs too. If u dun know wat is efs, go read on it. Good luck rooting and flashing. It is safe unless u dun follow instructions or read carefully.
Hey all, excuse my ignorance but I have searched and still am kind of confused. I'm going to grab a phone on Verizon prepaid next week and would like to get the Galaxy S6 Edge, but am still kind of confused with what's going on in the development scene. Mainly I want root and a custom recovery. I'm OK with touchwhiz and a stock ROM, especially if I can get rid of some bloat, but really need root and recovery. WHere I am confused is that I don't know what version of the Edge I will get and if full root will be available and if I will run into any problems that will prevent root. It seems like the smart thing to do would be to get the Nexus 6 for root/ROMs/Bootloader, but I really like the S6 Edge and would love to grab it if it will work.
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Hey all, excuse my ignorance but I have searched and still am kind of confused. I'm going to grab a phone on Verizon prepaid next week and would like to get the Galaxy S6 Edge, but am still kind of confused with what's going on in the development scene. Mainly I want root and a custom recovery. I'm OK with touchwhiz and a stock ROM, especially if I can get rid of some bloat, but really need root and recovery. WHere I am confused is that I don't know what version of the Edge I will get and if full root will be available and if I will run into any problems that will prevent root. It seems like the smart thing to do would be to get the Nexus 6 for root/ROMs/Bootloader, but I really like the S6 Edge and would love to grab it if it will work.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60600131
Read that carefully. All your answer are there.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60600131
Read that carefully. All your answer are there.
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Thanks. Just got off work and heading to bed but will check it out later for sure. Really like the edge but damn I would hate to spend several hundred dollars on a phone that can't be rooted or only has a 'gimped' root.
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Thanks. Just got off work and heading to bed but will check it out later for sure. Really like the edge but damn I would hate to spend several hundred dollars on a phone that can't be rooted or only has a 'gimped' root.
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Basically if it has built of1 or newer it can't be done. If your getting a new one it's probably been updated. Oe3 and oe2 you can root. It's been awhile since the of1 update and nobody has found a way to root. You can't flash down either.
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Basically if it has built of1 or newer it can't be done. If your getting a new one it's probably been updated. Oe3 and oe2 you can root. It's been awhile since the of1 update and nobody has found a way to root. You can't flash down either.
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Don't forget that a custom recovery will trip knox as well, so if root is acquired, think twice before installing one.
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Don't forget that a custom recovery will trip knox as well, so if root is acquired, think twice before installing one.
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The only root method for verizon is pingpong and it does not trip knox.
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First day with my edge plus and I'm wondering if there is a root method and any roms worth flashing. Thanks.
Nope. Won't be for a very long time
Doubt there will be one but I am a rootaholic and since I got this phone I haven't felt the need to want to root. Does everything I need well.
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Why is that? why are you guys saying there wont be root nor roms for a long time? not a popular phone? or is it too new in the market? did I choose the wrong phone if I wanted mods?
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Why is that? why are you guys saying there wont be root nor roms for a long time? not a popular phone? or is it too new in the market? did I choose the wrong phone if I wanted mods?
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You're completely off. You chose the wrong carrier to buy phones from in general
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You're completely off. You chose the wrong carrier to buy phones from in general
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I've been with Verizon for ten years, 5 different phones and never had any issues getting plenty of roms and kernels for any of my phones, ever.
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I've been with Verizon for ten years, 5 different phones and never had any issues getting plenty of roms and kernels for any of my phones, ever.
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No issues I bet. But probably a difficult process to get there. T-Mobile seems the best for modification, but anyhow, the s6 edge plus just has a hard lockdown because of Verizon making modification difficult, I looked at the T-Mobile variant forumns and they have a custom kernel and a few stock based modified roms
Hopefully is just a matter of time then. Thanks for the info. In the meantime I downloaded Package Disabler Pro and disabled a bunch of bloatware.
Well if you don't care about texting and talking, the tmobile variants do work with Verizon 4g. I've tested and it connects just fine.
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Nothing yet, but it looks like they're getting closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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Nothing yet, but it looks like they're getting closer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv0I45HtgtQ
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how does a rooted g920f aosp rom have to do with a s6e+ on verizon?
those devices have unlocked BLs so they have way more options
I didn't know that. Sorry.
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I didn't know that. Sorry.
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no biggie..
to my knowledge i thought even if it did get rooted that it would no longer boot up on vzw/att? pretty sure youd need an unlocked BL regardless which most likely will not happen.. hasnt happened on vzwsammy since early s4 days lol
I don't think these phones have a good chance of getting root unless a universal method like towel root is discovered. Development is pretty much stagnant in the Verizon variants of these phones.
I blame all the a holes abusing unlimited data! With unlocked bootloader you can root, unlock WiFi Hotspot And feed the neighborhood
You don't need root for that... All you need is foxfi... Available on the Google play store
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I guess I don't understand what unlimited means.
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I blame all the a holes abusing unlimited data! With unlocked bootloader you can root, unlock WiFi Hotspot And feed the neighborhood
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Dumb statement. It goes deeper than that. With advertisement being one of the big reasons why it's locked down.
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Dumb statement. It goes deeper than that. With advertisement being one of the big reasons why it's locked down.
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That is true, but it's not a dumb statement , because that is part of it too.
So, you order all you can eat fish and get charged more and draw haters because you ate all you could eat. Wouldn't you be pissed if you bought a car with free oil change for life and 2 years later they wanted to start charging you because they never foreseen you actually using it and taking them for their word.
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