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I saw that the 4g antenna is in the battery cover (so dont expect to see 4g with the battery cover off! lol) So I was wondering if I could use one of these to improve signal strength? Or maybe solder it along the top / inside of the battery cover and connect it to the existing one? Thoughts?
Isn't there a connection under the rubber circle near the kick stand for this?
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http://www.cellphoneshop.net/inanboos.html
I saw that the 4g antenna is in the battery cover (so dont expect to see 4g with the battery cover off! lol) So I was wondering if I could use one of these to improve signal strength? Or maybe solder it along the top / inside of the battery cover and connect it to the existing one? Thoughts?
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Voiding warranty for a placebo effect...no thanks
magneticzero said:
Voiding warranty for a placebo effect...no thanks
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Voiding warranty how? You could easily take this out as easily as you can put it in..... its not like you have to take the phone apart.
thejondude said:
Isn't there a connection under the rubber circle near the kick stand for this?
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Really? What fits in there? Didn't notice that until just now... Haven't see any external antennas for this phone. Interesting.
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Voiding warranty how? You could easily take this out as easily as you can put it in..... its not like you have to take the phone apart.
Really? What fits in there? Didn't notice that until just now... Haven't see any external antennas for this phone. Interesting.
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solder? umm yeah that is definitely changing the phone beyond the way you got it
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solder? umm yeah that is definitely changing the phone beyond the way you got it
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Ok then maybe use glue or just use a piece of tape to connect them...... problem solved. And no its not a placebo b/c these things seem to work pretty well based on the reviews I've read.... worth a try at $2.
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I saw that the 4g antenna is in the battery cover (so dont expect to see 4g with the battery cover off! lol) ....
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You have no idea the retarded day I had until I realized this as well....
but I also am experiencing the issue where once it shows the 4g, I have no connection, and I have to drop the mobile network for it to reconnect back to 3g. I am going to the store to see if we are on border 4g coverage or should I have 4g with no problems.
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You have no idea the retarded day I had until I realized this as well....
but I also am experiencing the issue where once it shows the 4g, I have no connection, and I have to drop the mobile network for it to reconnect back to 3g. I am going to the store to see if we are on border 4g coverage or should I have 4g with no problems.
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Yea I started to get pissed when I was moving my contacts over from my old incredible.... then I realized what I was doing.... *DOH* :facepalm:
I've only seen 3g once but I live in the middle of the city.
Its On Battery Cover? I seee. The 3g on this is way faster than my fascinate already. I wouldnt mind trying the chip if it improves cell signal. ide use tape or somthing lol.
maybe this would work in that under the rubber circle near the kick stand http://search.vzw.com/1/u1/T4/summa.../accessory_category/x3/acc.brand/x4/acc.model
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Ok then maybe use glue or just use a piece of tape to connect them...... problem solved. And no its not a placebo b/c these things seem to work pretty well based on the reviews I've read.... worth a try at $2.
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I think that the guys who designed this phone are most likely WAY smarter than the marketing guys who are selling that. If it were to only cost $2 more to make the phone get much better reception, don't you think they would have done it in the original design?
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maybe this would work in that under the rubber circle near the kick stand http://search.vzw.com/1/u1/T4/summa.../accessory_category/x3/acc.brand/x4/acc.model
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that's exactly what that little port is for!
Just noticed that you lose 3g while the back cover is off too. Kind of annoying.
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gsxr1kmatt said:
that's exactly what that little port is for!
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Be interesting to see how those work.
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I finally fixed the heat issue with the Galaxy S4..
Type: MOD
Difficulty: Medium..Easy for tech savvy people like myself.
This MOD requires you to dissemble your Galaxy S4, Thus voiding your warranty, however, if you take it apart successfully without damaging it, verizon/your carrier/Samsung will not know
Tools Needed: Small Philips head screw driver , Guitar Pick, or case opener.
Remove all screws on the back housing and use your guitar pick or case opener to remove the bottom speaker assembly. Then use your guitar pick (I use my nail to avoid putting dents in the plastic) and go around the whole edges of the device. Doing this will release the clips. Now once you remove the back housing, remove all the ribbon connections from the mainboard. Then use your tool of choice to remove the antenna connections (these come off but simply pulling them up, do NOT twist them!) At the top right corner there is a black screw, remove that and you should be able to remove the main board. You should now see a pink square (the biggest one , that is the heatsink)
What to do next...
Simply find a heat sink similar to the big pink one that is already installed. Once you have that, simply cut it to size if needed and place over existing heat sink.
No hot screen ever since and I am on the MDK build and have been charging for an hour and max screen brightness. No heat issue
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h7eIt5c1uM
YouTube tells me it has finished uploading however it says please check back in a few minutes.
Can you make a YouTube video? If this is legitimate, thank you!
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+1
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kluster1999 said:
Can you make a YouTube video? If this is legitimate, thank you!
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Sure, If I get a couple more recommendations to make one
I'd like to see this as well. Thanks bro
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jdub251 said:
I'd like to see this as well. Thanks bro
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Alright. I'll post a video soon
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Simply find a heat sink similar to the big pink one that is already installed.
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I don't need a youtube video, I just need this step explained, preferably BEFORE I tear my $650 phone apart
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I don't need a youtube video, I just need this step explained, preferably BEFORE I tear my $650 phone apart
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Yeah probably should have explained that more haha. Well if you take the mainboard out, you will see a pink square on the frame of the device (check your mainboard if it's still on the cpu. this may happen if the phone is hot) It will be the biggest heatsink of them all. Its hard to explain. Once I finish flashing this ROM, I'll take my phone apart and take a picture. and a video...
I too would like to see this video... +1 here
Thanks for sharing
+1 on the video.
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Great work! And hells yes on a video/picture tutorial, if you would be so kind! I expect a high production value too - there better be guitar solos and explosions.
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Great work! And hells yes on a video/picture tutorial, if you would be so kind! I expect a high production value too - there better be guitar solos and explosions.
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Yes, I just finished recording..and just for you, I will put an explosion in for you haha
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Yes, I just finished recording..and just for you, I will put an explosion in for you haha
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Video is uploading..files size is around 400 MB to keep quality...i just went ahead and uploaded it instead of making people wait for explosions and magic :laugh:
Kinuser1 said:
Video is uploading..files size is around 400 MB to keep quality...i just went ahead and uploaded it instead of making people wait for explosions and magic :laugh:
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Shucks. That's okay, with the way the movie industry is today we'll just have to wait a little while for you to release the digitally re-mastered version.
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Shucks. That's okay, with the way the movie industry is today we'll just have to wait a little while for you to release the digitally re-mastered version.
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Why is it still stuck on 66%!? Should I try to re upload
I'm not an engineer or anything, I was just curious if you know if the added heat sink actually diffuses the heat more effectively or simply insulates it from the screen, masking the problem so to speak. Have you run temperature readings on the internals during intense use after the mod?
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For those wondering... the heat sink is probably made of a thin sheet of special foam rubber like material.
I have used it before. It can be self adhesive and it feels cold to the touch from how fast it draws heat away.
Adding another layer adds to the thickness and will allow better contact, and it will increase the total mass of heat sink material meaning better heat transfer. It may add a little more stress to the main board though due to the added thickness taking up room.
Use pictures for each step and describe in detail what's being done in each step. I think this would be better than a video and easier to put together.
This should be moved to the general forum as this is not development work.
The risk reward for doing this is not worth tearing into a $600 device either. The ribbon connectors are extremely fragile and tear easily regardless of how tech savvy you may be.
But go ahead and pull out your screwdriver and tear into your phone if you really feel the need.
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Why is it still stuck on 66%!? Should I try to re upload
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A tech savvy person like yourself should be able to figure that out.
From http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44929981#post44929981
plaster said:
What lg could have done, was put an aluminum heatsink that had a thin fin that spread to all four sides of the phone that would dissipate the heat from the center. Then again, I haven't ripped my phone apart. It may have that already.
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I've ripped it apart a few times, no fin, but there is enough clearance to do so, I might give that a shot just because.
Not sure of the potential interference to cell signal though..
Good idea regardless, even aluminum foil at that close proximity with maybe thermal compound or a pad would do more than nothing, in theory.
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So I actually went for it. This is 8 layers of aluminum foil stacked, by folding on of the precut sheets on top of itself until it almost exactly matched the internal dimensions of the LGOG.
This picture is slightly dated, The red+blue borderd box indicates more material I had removed and is no longer present in the rear cover of the phone. The WiFi antenna is located in the backplate for our phone, I thought it wouldn't be affected by the foil but there were two seperate issues.
1.) The contacts themselves didn't always make contact, effectively leaving no antenna.
2.) wireless signal sucked
Also, directly under that area on the opposide side of our mainboard is the LTE antenna. Again *should* is the key work that in theory it would run with no issues, able to radiate out the front of the device.
1.) LTE signal was dramatically impacted. Disabling LTE and using 4g showed fantastic signal. So if you don't use LTE or have LTE in your area this foil can stay, maybe increase the cutout around the contacts so WIFI antenna reattaches correctly.
Also note the cutout area on the bottom. That is our main antenna block attached to the speaker.
1.) Every part of the antenna areas has to be taped to try and use this area.
2.) Foil by itself with no thermal interface material is very unlikely to be sponging or collecting any heat at this relative distance from the hotspots anyway.
3.) Overall signal sucked, not worth it.
Take note of the two metal shims on the top and right of the battery. There is an almost entirely metal "basket" that houses every bit of our phone on the front side.
1.) This is in place to transfer some of the heat that the foil picks up from the transceiver module (metallic thing that is NOT taped over above the top right corner of the battery)
2.) This yeilds a very nice increase in thermal "density" overall. It is a much increased area over which has to heat to reach thermal equilibrium.
In the end I've been running this for about a week now. Placebo effect over and done, testing here and there and I can report.
It makes a dramatic impact on overall temperature regulation of the phone. It does not completely eliminate the hotspot on the back but it does spread it very effectively.
The phone can still reach "thermal saturation" as it were, and will given enough time. There is a weird tradeoff now involved, and I'd have to go back and test this separate to draw any definite conclusions, thusly;
1. You now have more material that can eventually heat up to the point where the phone throttles, this naturally takes much longer to occur (which is good)
however, in theory, this added material still has to find a way to radiate its heat, which might take LONGER to do so.
However, however: ..You also have a greatly increased the surface area that this material can dissipate heat over, so it could take LESS time.
Needs to be tested, but subjectively I can say it is better overall.
Most dramatic increases I get for my personal use case that made this worth it,
repeated restarts from multiple flashes and validating startup tweaks, voltage settings, governer advanced settings properly all taking and setting, etc. Much cooler overall, verified by constantly checking CPU and Battery temps during and after.
Running the phone on LTE, with bluetooth and GPS on, while actively navigating with maps, while actively streaming audio to my car stereo via bluetooth, while hooked up to car charger.
Does NOT hit the point where the screen is impossibly dim and refuses to charge because of how hot the phone gets doing this.
If you've used your LGOG as navigation while docked to a stand on your dash you know exactly how hot this phone can get. It also cools itself insanely faster after this.
Ultimate tradeoff: I have slightly less signal for LTE overall, and it's very slight. I could continue customizing my cutout, and will eventually, but this is working very well for now. It's almost much cleaner than the picture indicates, as once I finalized what worked I trimmed all the edges and cutouts around the backplate fasteners, etc.
Good luck and have fun if you're feeling adventurous.
Much cooler overall, verified by constantly checking CPU and Battery temps during and after.
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Could you share a few sample temps for comparison?
2.) Foil by itself with no thermal interface material is very unlikely to be sponging or collecting any heat at this relative distance from the hotspots anyway.
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Did you end up using thermal compound, and if so, where?
Ultimate tradeoff: I have slightly less signal for LTE overall, and it's very slight.
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Could you share a decibel amount of what you're used to getting, with regards to LTE signal, and what you are getting after the mod?
It's almost much cleaner than the picture indicates, as once I finalized what worked I trimmed all the edges and cutouts around the backplate fasteners, etc.
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Would you mind sharing an updated picture?
Overall, this is awesome! Great idea and I would definitely love to give this a shot myself.
ousoonerchase said:
Could you share a few sample temps for comparison?
Did you end up using thermal compound, and if so, where?
Could you share a decibel amount of what you're used to getting, with regards to LTE signal, and what you are getting after the mod?
Would you mind sharing an updated picture?
Overall, this is awesome! Great idea and I would definitely love to give this a shot myself.
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Yes to all these things, except thermal compount, not yet anyway. I wouldn't mind updating and trying to do with comparisons, but in my ADHD world right now I'm trying to get ubuntu booting under chroot on my phone to see if I can compile source, for the hell of it.
dont feel like opening my phone up at this exact moment but I will, eventually.
lol, awesome. I'm too poor to take my phone apart, but if it needs a battery replacement before 2015, I'll definitely try this out. If you could machine a solid piece of aluminum, or even better, copper, it would work even better. :good:
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lol, awesome. I'm too poor to take my phone apart, but if it needs a battery replacement before 2015, I'll definitely try this out. If you could machine a solid piece of aluminum, or even better, copper, it would work even better. :good:
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I've humored the idea of taking the much cleaned up foil template i made out, tracing it on paper, and getting a copper shim machined to the same size and similar thickness, believe you me
Wish I had the balls to do this
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Definitely gonna do this if i need to swap the battery anytime soon.
I remember you mentioning his on the BeanStalk thread. Didn't think you'd make a post. Well as an update for you, I go my dad to re-solder the battery connector, so it's like new i'm thinking i'll give this a try. I keep LTE off due to battery drain anyway.
You must live with spotty lte service. I get plenty of battery on lte with excellent signal strength. Your drain likely stems from frequently switching between lte and hspa
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So I recently discovered that the Rezound (and other phones) receive signal through the battery door. I did not previously know this. I was wondering if anyone had any information on how this works. The reason I want to know is because I am in a VERY low service area, and if I stand in certain areas or at a certain angle in my house, I can get service enough to make calls and send texts, but just the slightest move can ruin it. I know all about the Network Extenders and Boosters and all the external hardware you can obtain to help this problem, but I was thinking of a more direct way that one might possibly increase their signal.
What I was thinking is that old cell phones have antennas, right? So if the Rezound (and other smartphones) use a similar or at least some kind of antenna system (such as through the door of the phone) then maybe one could use a wire and rig it to attach to the door to increase signal.
I wanted to try poking a hole big enough to fit a small wire through the top of the door, but small enough to not be noticed, and then try and attach the wire to one of the pieces of the door that grabs the signal. I want to be able to remove it if I want to, but I would figure out how to do that part on my own.
I basically just want to know what part of the door is giving my phone its signal. I see that the door has what look like metal plates on it and I am guessing those have something to do with it.
Can someone give me a little more info on how this works so I can try to figure something out for myself?
Thanks a ton!
Btw I realize doing something like this (even if it worked) will increase the signal very insignificantly, but I figure that it might be kind of fun to at least try and see what happens.
TyWillems19 said:
So I recently discovered that the Rezound (and other phones) receive signal through the battery door. I did not previously know this. I was wondering if anyone had any information on how this works. The reason I want to know is because I am in a VERY low service area, and if I stand in certain areas or at a certain angle in my house, I can get service enough to make calls and send texts, but just the slightest move can ruin it. I know all about the Network Extenders and Boosters and all the external hardware you can obtain to help this problem, but I was thinking of a more direct way that one might possibly increase their signal.
What I was thinking is that old cell phones have antennas, right? So if the Rezound (and other smartphones) use a similar or at least some kind of antenna system (such as through the door of the phone) then maybe one could use a wire and rig it to attach to the door to increase signal.
I wanted to try poking a hole big enough to fit a small wire through the top of the door, but small enough to not be noticed, and then try and attach the wire to one of the pieces of the door that grabs the signal. I want to be able to remove it if I want to, but I would figure out how to do that part on my own.
I basically just want to know what part of the door is giving my phone its signal. I see that the door has what look like metal plates on it and I am guessing those have something to do with it.
Can someone give me a little more info on how this works so I can try to figure something out for myself?
Thanks a ton!
Btw I realize doing something like this (even if it worked) will increase the signal very insignificantly, but I figure that it might be kind of fun to at least try and see what happens.
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Antennas are very complicated....a wire really wont help you....if you can pick some up id get paint with a hight metal content of gold or copper...prefferably gold...and go over where the copper paint already is...thats the antenna and a slight elongation of the paints design can cause alot of issues....ive tried aluminum tape and it really didnt do much justice in signal...i tried gold content paint as i had some laying around and had great sucess....although the cost would be just as much as building your own signal booster antenna....which i can dig up the guides for you on that as well
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Antennas are very complicated....a wire really wont help you....if you can pick some up id get paint with a hight metal content of gold or copper...prefferably gold...and go over where the copper paint already is...thats the antenna and a slight elongation of the paints design can cause alot of issues....ive tried aluminum tape and it really didnt do much justice in signal...i tried gold content paint as i had some laying around and had great sucess....although the cost would be just as much as building your own signal booster antenna....which i can dig up the guides for you on that as well
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Hey thank you for the reply!
I would love the guides to making a booster. That will probably help me out.
Do you think if I got a copper wire, like the copper side of a speaker wire, I could strip it and close the door down onto it with the top sticking out? I mean, like I said before, I don't think the signal would be increased drastically at all, but could this help?
The gold paint you mean, is there an alternative or a cheap method of doing something like that besides what you had mentioned?
Thanks again.
TyWillems19 said:
Hey thank you for the reply!
I would love the guides to making a booster. That will probably help me out.
Do you think if I got a copper wire, like the copper side of a speaker wire, I could strip it and close the door down onto it with the top sticking out? I mean, like I said before, I don't think the signal would be increased drastically at all, but could this help?
The gold paint you mean, is there an alternative or a cheap method of doing something like that besides what you had mentioned?
Thanks again.
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no....they have to match the antenna design thats already there....like i said you can use a better copper paint which is cheaper than gold but gold is much better because of how well it can conduct...sticking a wire in it will proobably give you even worse signal than what you have...the signal booster will still run you a little bit of cash and requires a little bit of knowledge to do so...guides can only go so far sometimes...and unlike old school fliphones or old brick phones with antennas the ones is this phone are designed and programmed a very certain way and is complex...hence why your best bet would be a signal booster...let me google around for the right guide and ill get back to you
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no....they have to match the antenna design thats already there....like i said you can use a better copper paint which is cheaper than gold but gold is much better because of how well it can conduct...sticking a wire in it will proobably give you even worse signal than what you have...the signal booster will still run you a little bit of cash and requires a little bit of knowledge to do so...guides can only go so far sometimes...and unlike old school fliphones or old brick phones with antennas the ones is this phone are designed and programmed a very certain way and is complex...hence why your best bet would be a signal booster...let me google around for the right guide and ill get back to you
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About how much would the booster cost, and it'd work with other phones in the house too? Service is spotty in our house too for some of the phones.
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jagrave said:
About how much would the booster cost, and it'd work with other phones in the house too? Service is spotty in our house too for some of the phones.
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you can buy one outright for around $150 or make one for about $50 to $75....also depends on if you want one band repeated or up to 3 bands...rezound on verizon only uses 2 though....and yes it will work for any phone that uses that band and or carrier...the cheaper alternative is the paint...which runs about $30 for the gold or $15 to $20 for the copper
Heck, I would really love a signal booster. I usually have one bar of signal, and I can't ever call or text out here
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Heck, I would really love a signal booster. I usually have one bar of signal, and I can't ever call or text out here
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when i lived in the woodland areas of massachussets i had to try whatever i could for better signal...im looking for a good thorough guide on building one but not having much luck....may just write my own as i know how and whats needed
Right? I have to drive to the end of the street to make a call. We live in a valley in the middle of Nm, so the mountains don't help.
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Back in the days when I owned my Xperia Z3 there was a thread (linked below) that helped users check if their phone was waterproof by using the built in pressure sensor in the hidden menu, if you want to read it in detail then I've linked the thread, but basically once you where in the pressure sensor test you'd slightly compress the phone using your thumb and index finger by pressing on the display and back.
Then: (From OP)
"If all seals are intact the pressure should rise.
Your phone*with intact seals is a closed*system.
If you compress the volume the pressure goes up as a result.
If any of the seals is compromised pressure will not rise."
"Note: pressure will decrease automatically"
So basically my question is, is there any equivalent of this for our Mate 10 Pro, I had a nasty drop recently and I'm concerned it could have potentially compromised a seal or something, and water damage isn't covered in our warranty so I don't want to risk it.
Please no replies about how I just shouldn't use it underwater etc. I often take underwater shots with my Mate 10 Pro.
Any help/replies are really appreciated
Thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
Did u read the thread that you linked?
Simply download sensors app from playstore, open pressure section and check if the pressure rises when you apply force to the device...
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Did u read the thread that you linked?
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Clearly or I wouldn't have linked it here, quoted it, or made this post in the first place...
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Simply download sensors app from playstore, open pressure section and check if the pressure rises when you apply force to the device...
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A lot of the sensor apps don't actually measure the pressure of the phone they do the air pressure based on your GPS location, it's hard to differentiate the 2 when searching, also I've read that third party apps don't give a accurate reading without root access, that's why I specifically referenced the Xperia thread because that one was accessible through the built in hidden menu from Sony themselves.
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Clearly or I wouldn't have linked it here, quoted it, or made this post in the first place...
A lot of the sensor apps don't actually measure the pressure of the phone they do the air pressure based on your GPS location, it's hard to differentiate the 2 when searching, also I've read that third party apps don't give a accurate reading without root access, that's why I specifically referenced the Xperia thread because that one was accessible through the built in hidden menu from Sony themselves.
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Download "Sensors Test" by EXA Tools, go down to "Pressure", tap the graph, apply pressure and see it go up and down.
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Download "Sensors Test" by EXA Tools, go down to "Pressure", tap the graph, apply pressure and see it go up and down.
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I'll be sure to give it a go later, thanks for your help
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Clearly or I wouldn't have linked it here, quoted it, or made this post in the first place...
A lot of the sensor apps don't actually measure the pressure of the phone they do the air pressure based on your GPS location, it's hard to differentiate the 2 when searching, also I've read that third party apps don't give a accurate reading without root access, that's why I specifically referenced the Xperia thread because that one was accessible through the built in hidden menu from Sony themselves.
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You literally type sensors in the playstore and download the first app - sensors multitool.
Root access isn't required to perform such check. Even the thread you linked clearly states that the function found in the factory test mode is basically a barometer output readout which means any 3rd party app that is able to read sensors data should be fine.
Tho your device might still seem water resistant upon performing this, keep in kind that it only tells you that the seal isn't broken yet.
Meaning even a small splash could reach into the device if the seal is already weakened .
If you have any friends that are in the repair business ( Repairing latest flagships ) ask around, they usually have tools for determinating water resistance of devices after repair.
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Tho your device might still seem water resistant upon performing this, keep in kind that it only tells you that the seal isn't broken yet.
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Yeah I'm definitely aware of this, unfortunately I'm not sure what else I can do.
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If you have any friends that are in the repair business ( Repairing latest flagships ) ask around, they usually have tools for determinating water resistance of devices after repair.
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I'll be sure to ask around, thanks for the advice :good:
Thank you fo the tip. Could someone kindly post a screenshot of what fingers' pressure produce on a graph ? I had my Mate 10 Pro opened at a Huawei Repair center for a screen replacement (OLED oled burn in), and the pressure graph does not show any relevant variation...
Before and after they proceeded with screen (and back cover as they messed up the first time, it was not perfectly glued) replacement, I asked them about IP waterproof/certification, they answered me they take care of this applying a new seal...
Scalpos said:
Thank you fo the tip. Could someone kindly post a screenshot of what fingers' pressure produce on a graph ?
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It's worth me mentioning that I still haven't submerged mine in water, the slight spikes in the graph show when I applied pressure.
*If you try this don't press too hard*
Feel like that's worth mentioning lol
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
It's worth me mentioning that I still haven't submerged mine in water, the slight spikes in the graph show when I applied pressure.
*If you try this don't press too hard*
Feel like that's worth mentioning lol
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Here is mine. Pressure seems lower here
https://i.imgur.com/2DCUtao.jpg
ante0 said:
Here is mine. Pressure seems lower here
https://i.imgur.com/2DCUtao.jpg
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When you apply pressure/squeeze what does your number increase to? Mine goes from 1015.1 to 1016.3 briefly
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When you apply pressure/squeeze what does your number increase to? Mine goes from 1015.1 to 1016.3 briefly
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Yes, but not by much.
From 1003.5 to 1004.0, this was using a lot of pressure.
If I use "normal" it only goes up by 0.2
ante0 said:
Yes, but not by much.
From 1003.5 to 1004.0, this was using a lot of pressure.
If I use "normal" it only goes up by 0.2
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If yours is 1003 and mines 1015 and you know that yours is waterproof then I can only assume mine isn't right?, If you get a moment could you take out the SIM card tray and see what the number changes to? Because with the SIM tray out, then the phone obviously isn't water tight.
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If yours is 1003 and mines 1015 and you know that yours is waterproof then I can only assume mine isn't right?, If you get a moment could you take out the SIM card tray and see what the number changes to? Because with the SIM tray out, then the phone obviously isn't water tight.
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When removing sim pressure does nothing. It stays at 1003
But I guess, if yours was broken it wouldnt react to pressure either.
ante0 said:
When removing sim pressure does nothing. It stays at 1003
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Are you sure that yours is waterproof, I'm not saying try it but are you confident that it is, i.e have you submerged it in water recently?
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Are you sure that yours is waterproof, I'm not saying try it but are you confident that it is, i.e have you submerged it in water recently?
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I have never done that. But I haven't dropped it either... So I can't say for sure it is waterproof.
But I can compare to my Mate 9 which has been dropped a few times, not by high heights but anyway.
Edit: Removing case from mate 10 pro increased pressure rating to 1004. But it's exactly the same on my Mate 9. I guess altitude counts in too?
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I have never done that. But I haven't dropped it either... So I can't say for sure it is waterproof.
But I can compare to my Mate 9 which has been dropped a few times, not by high heights but anyway.
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I'm not too knowledgeable on the whole subject which makes things worse, hence the thread lol, I don't know why yours is 1003 and mine is 1015, if my phone wasn't water tight wouldn't the number be lower that yours which is water tight? A third persons results could be useful though to see what they got
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I'm not too knowledgeable on the whole subject which makes things worse, hence the thread lol, I don't know why yours is 1003 and mine is 1015, if my phone wasn't water tight wouldn't the number be lower that yours which is water tight? A third persons results could be useful though to see what they got
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I guess it would need to count in air pressure too...
I'm trying to find SOMETHING on this subject, but most topics are about already broken seals...
But as you wrote in OP, the seal should be intact if pressure goes up when you put pressure on the display. Which it does for both of us.
Right now it's 1009 hPa here in the air, 42m above sea level. I will check again tomorrow and see if 1004 increases or not
Edit: And checking the posts in the thread you linked in OP, all of them have varying "start" hPa.
Edit 2: at 1004,7 now
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Right now it's 1009 hPa here in the air, 42m above sea level.
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Where I am it's 1019 hPa and 30m above sea level.
The information around this subject seems to be scarce, hopefully someone who knows a bit more will check out the thread and have a different insight.
Mine is 987,7 hPa (altitude 215m)
When i press, it goes 988, 2 hPa