Hi,
I have just rooted my device and I am thinking which is the best and most stable recovery to install. Anyone who can give their opinions. I am mostly thinking of installing Sense 4.4 ROMs
I don't know if there's a "best" recovery since they all do the same thing just in slightly different ways. Personally I've been using twrp and have heard that clockwork is slower, but that's it. They all work fine, just personal preference.
Was just wondering, havent played around with my DNA such, So wanted a recovery which allows with to flash all the ROMs without trouble.Thanks I installed TWRP recovery
orangechoochoo said:
I don't know if there's a "best" recovery since they all do the same thing just in slightly different ways. Personally I've been using twrp and have heard that clockwork is slower, but that's it. They all work fine, just personal preference.
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TWRP is pretty much what everyone seems to use and recommend.
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I've used both, mostly cwm, but twrp recently and I really like it!
I've been using Clockwork Mod without any issue. Love that it has a "flash from last used folder" feature
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TWRP is pretty much what everyone seems to use and recommend.
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TWRP is awesomesauce!
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I use PhilZ's CWM touch recovery...sadly he hasn't updated the DLX build in quite a while.
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Can we use it? I'm a bit confused about this.
The latest I've heard is still no. I'm not sure why though.
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Seems to work well on cm7 and miui but cause wierd **** on samsung based roms.
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gunnyman said:
Can we use it? I'm a bit confused about this.
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You can use it with cm7, but not with stock based roms. I'm not sure about hellraised i9100 roms.
Nice to see you here. You have SGS II now?
creepyncrawly said:
You can use it with cm7, but not with stock based roms. I'm not sure about hellraised i9100 roms.
Nice to see you here. You have SGS II now?
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Yep after trying the atrix 2.
I'm a bit confused at how to flash an alternate ROM without being able to use CWM on the stock rooted ROM
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I'm a bit confused at how to flash an alternate ROM without being able to use CWM on the stock rooted ROM
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boot to recovery and flash? what do you mean you cant use CWM on stock rooted rom?
Rom manager is not needed for cwm. It just makes things slightly easier.
Flash a kernel that has cwm and boot into it by the command 'adb reboot recovery', three button hold, or even the 14 toggle mod reboot button. And flash away.
Rom manager doesn't equal cwm. It's just one of the things it can do. But right now it's not 100% ready for our phones.
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I've been using it on my cappy, and now with my Sgs2, no issues. But I'm a compulsive updater and obsessed with living on the edge.
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Majority of other phones it does work 100%.
And it does work with our phones. Just not 100%. If used enough there will be a time that it messes up (primarily with stock based roms). Hopefully in the near future the bugs will be worked out so that it is 100% with our phones.
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Thanks for the info
Hey Gunnyman, good to see ya here.
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IMO..With the devs putting the extended power menu in the roms which allows you to reboot to recovery It makes life easier to get to cwm..I forgot all about ROM MANAGER a long time ago....
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robmoney215 said:
IMO..With the devs putting the extended power menu in the roms which allows you to reboot to recovery It makes life easier to get to cwm..I forgot all about ROM MANAGER a long time ago....
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+1
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Thread title explains it. I've only ever used CWM and I'm not familiar with AmonRa. What's different about it, and does it work more or less the same as CWM?
Thanks!
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I think its pretty much the same from my exp...i rly wish my data would stop droppin so i can reply lol
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They are pretty much the same. Amonra has a couple cool features. For example, it can root a stock rom from recovery
Didn't know about it being able to root a stock Rom. Thank you sir
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Me either lol nvr heard of it
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I didn't know either until I was looking through it. It worked great and took 5 seconds. It is in the development section of recovery under mounts and stuff
Cool. Thanks for the info.
So are Rom images formatted for one or the other, or can you use them interchangeably? I'm sure we'll end up seeing CWM soon so I'm curious.
Thanks!
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Ok so i just ordered my new HTC EVO 3D off ebay since my EVO is officially done, so my question is, after looking through the DEV section ive seen a lot of information on TWRP recovery and im wondering are there other options like with the EVO.
For instance the EVO had TWRP, Amon RA, CWM, ect..
The reason i ask is because ive had a pretty bad experience with TWRP so im reluctant to use it with this phone when i get it.
I used clockwork before I got twrp 2.0
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I use twrp. havent updated to 2.0 yet...prolly wont.
fifasarajevo said:
Ok so i just ordered my new HTC EVO 3D off ebay since my EVO is officially done, so my question is, after looking through the DEV section ive seen a lot of information on TWRP recovery and im wondering are there other options like with the EVO.
For instance the EVO had TWRP, Amon RA, CWM, ect..
The reason i ask is because ive had a pretty bad experience with TWRP so im reluctant to use it with this phone when i get it.
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I made a handful of code commits to TWRP at the beginning of the project.. The project was started as Amon RA announce he was "retiring" essentially from updating his recovery to work with EMMC devices.
The EVO 4G was an MTD device so Amon's recovery worked well. The EVO 3D is an EMMC device so Amon's recovery would not work.
Personally, I've had good success with CWM as it is consistent across devices and I haven't had issues with it across the handful of Android devices I've had.
Ultimately, the decision is up to you. I only use the basic features in the recovery, adb shell access from recovery mode, nandroid backup/restore and ability to process a .zip. These three basic features I use are essentially the same or at minimum very similar across the different recoveries.
Different custom recovery's will offer different features, different support and different UI/themes.
Hope that helps! Good luck!
I use clock work mod. Alot of others use Twrp but I rooted my phone with the old revolution method and I have never had any problems with cwm.
I can't get clockwork to stick for some reason. Haven't figured it out yet but twrp is awesome.
I haven't compressed the backups but it's a nice feature that saves space. And I read that 2.0 is crazy fast at backing up and restoring. Took me 1592 seconds to restore the recovery partition tonight. Long ass time.
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ok thanks guy, when my phone gets here im going to probably go with TWRP as skeptical as i am about it....there is stock version that isnt touchscreen right that has proven not to do anything bad to the phone ?
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I can't get clockwork to stick for some reason. Haven't figured it out yet but twrp is awesome.
I haven't compressed the backups but it's a nice feature that saves space. And I read that 2.0 is crazy fast at backing up and restoring. Took me 1592 seconds to restore the recovery partition tonight. Long ass time.
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If you want CWM to stick for good, install it from Rom Manager. I have never personally used TWRP and hear it's amazing but I doubt I'll ever switch after using CWM for years and have no reason to. /endrant
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MikeyCriggz said:
If you want CWM to stick for good, install it from Rom Manager. I have never personally used TWRP and hear it's amazing but I doubt I'll ever switch after using CWM for years and have no reason to. /endrant
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Second thing I tried after adb. Doesn't stick.
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fifasarajevo said:
ok thanks guy, when my phone gets here im going to probably go with TWRP as skeptical as i am about it....there is stock version that isnt touchscreen right that has proven not to do anything bad to the phone ?
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link to previous version non-touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
I tried twrp 2.0 didn't like it, it would quit in the middle of a wiping process and I would have to reboot into recovery again but it does have a touchscreen interface so some might find that useful. I used CWM like somebody else in this thread said it wouldn't stick I had the same problem. My favorite is twrp 1.1.1 never had any problems at all and the best part is you can flash multiple zips all at once. Oh! one more thing. I found out when using CWM wiping davlik cache would sometimes not work.
Twrp is my vote non touch version
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What's so bad about the touch version?
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What's so bad about the touch version?
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It would randomly quit out then I would have to reboot. It could be good I guess if it weren't for that.
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What's so bad about the touch version?
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well for me and many others i tried the touch version on my original EVO and it pretty much broke my phone which is the main reason i got an EVO 3D now so that was the issue for me
The ones i know of are clockwork, something like TWRP? and another one called 4EXT or something like that. Can you guys give me input on which one is better and some of their functions?
I like 4ext because it uses touch screen and you can charge the battery while in recovery.
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4ext is my favourite however having a gs2 I cannot have it :/ so second best for me is cwm!!
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+1 for 4EXT as well. Not only is the touch interface real easy to navigate but it even has extra options like converting your partitions to the 4ext filesytem from 3ext (stock filesystem)
***Note: as far as I know, you can only convert to 4ext filesystem if the ROM you are running can support it or you will have problems.
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+1 for 4EXT as well. Not only is the touch interface real easy to navigate but it even has extra options like converting your partitions to the 4ext filesytem from 3ext (stock filesystem)
***Note: as far as I know, you can only convert to 4ext filesystem if the ROM you are running can support it or you will have problems.
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The kernel must support it too but I think all the thunderbolt kernels do. +1 to 4ext best money I've spent on an app.
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I use titanium backup really good
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I use titanium backup really good
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This is about Recovery software. Titanium is a backup and restore app. The Recovery mainly allows you to flash custom ROMs, however there are plenty of more goodies that you can tinker with in Recovery.
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I prefer TWRP over CWM (in recovery mode) . However, I like the ROM Manager app for CWM and am tempted to replace TWRP with CWM so I can use all the features of this app.
(Haven't tried 4ext yet, so I'm going to install it and check it out for myself)
4ext but it does cost money about bill gates type of money. For those who are broker then a crack head on pay day use cwm
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Old Amon RA always do the job for me.
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I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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Decepticaons said:
I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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Personally, I've never heard of what you're describing. The only way I know of with MK2 is to root using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758.
After that, your only option for roms is Safestrap. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441. You will only be able to install TouchWiz 4.3 based roms. Make sure they're compatible with Safestrap before you install.
My advice would be to do a lot of research. This is a good place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501.
Good luck
Edit: Just noticed your profile says your using AT&T. This is the Verizon forum.
Decepticaons said:
I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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This is the Verizon forum, not at&t. However I believe mobile odin is only useful for restoring the phone to a factory state without a computer, not flashing roms, yet you must be rooted. I could be wrong though.
riker147 said:
Personally, I've never heard of what you're describing. The only way I know of with MK2 is to root using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758.
After that, your only option for roms is Safestrap. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441. You will only be able to install TouchWiz 4.3 based roms. Make sure they're compatible with Safestrap before you install.
My advice would be to do a lot of research. This is a good place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501.
Good luck
Edit: Just noticed your profile says your using AT&T. This is the Verizon forum.
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Haven't updated that, I'm with Verizon.
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It is possible to flash rom via Odin have done it on me devices not sure if this would be a exception maybe contact some devs to see where this lies
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Bfitz26 said:
It is possible to flash rom via Odin have done it on me devices not sure if this would be a exception maybe contact some devs to see where this lies
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Well as far as I know Odin is just for flashing the firmwares and a custom recovery is for flashing ROMs. Maybe there is an exception, but I don't think so
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Mistertac said:
Well as far as I know Odin is just for flashing the firmwares and a custom recovery is for flashing ROMs. Maybe there is an exception, but I don't think so
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This is my understanding too..Perhaps one of our brainiacs can clarify
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
decaturbob said:
This is my understanding too..Perhaps one of our brainiacs can clarify
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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Maybe just clarifying what someone thinks a ROM is, guess you could think firmware is a ROM if you're new to this kind of stuff.
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Generally yes for recoveries and stock firmwares however it does need to be in a tarball file which would take some time I imagine trying to recall what phone it was but this was a few years ago a lot has changed since the n
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Ok looking like I misunderstood then. Thanks for the clarification. I don't think I trust the idea of the safestrap. I know it's safer, but I have been flashing ROMs for years and the recovery method makes me warm and tingly. I don't think they'll ever crack into the ability to flash the way we're all used to. For every genius we have that's capable of figuring it out, Samsung has 10 that can stop it. I pray they get it, but my hopes are fading.
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Decepticaons said:
Ok looking like I misunderstood then. Thanks for the clarification. I don't think I trust the idea of the safestrap. I know it's safer, but I have been flashing ROMs for years and the recovery method makes me warm and tingly. I don't think they'll ever crack into the ability to flash the way we're all used to. For every genius we have that's capable of figuring it out, Samsung has 10 that can stop it. I pray they get it, but my hopes are fading.
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safestrap has been around for years for other phones and recently hashcode ported to the S4 last fall. I have used it since that time with zero issues and have been running several ROMs at a time to evaluate, with again no issues with safestrap. Not sure why you wouldn't "trust it".....as it gives all us non-MDK owners ability to run something else than just stock.
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safestrap has been around for years for other phones and recently hashcode ported to the S4 last fall. I have used it since that time with zero issues and have been running several ROMs at a time to evaluate, with again no issues with safestrap. Not sure why you wouldn't "trust it".....as it gives all us non-MDK owners ability to run something else than just stock.
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Exactly, I've been hammering away on Safestrap since my RAZR and it's really safe just like the name implies. Granted I could flash AOSP on the razr, but my guess is at some point kexec will come around for the S4 as well. Too many really smart people working on that project for it to fail in my opinion.
Anyways.... For now Safestrap is awesome, and happy to have it.
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Now if there were more ROM options lol!
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Now if there were more ROM options lol!
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slowly getting there. Takes some time and while many SS roms are available they all come up short to my main day to day HD12 Rom....battery life is simply amazing