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I've got it preordered from verizon. There's been talk on other forums questioning whether it will indeed ship with an unlocked /unlockable bootloader from Big Red.
Anyone have any info?
TBD. Mine will go right back if not! Dont think it will be a problem. It may not be unlocked from the get go but should be unlockable.
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There is a good possibility that they will, however nothing can be said until we get them.
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Both AT&T and Verizon appear to be equal in almost every aspect in my area( Coverage, cost of the plan I need, subsidized phone cost), so that leaves the 1 question that really matters:
Which is easier both to root, and even more importantly, unroot to the point I can still use my warranty?
qwer777 said:
Both AT&T and Verizon appear to be equal in almost every aspect in my area( Coverage, cost of the plan I need, subsidized phone cost), so that leaves the 1 question that really matters:
Which is easier both to root, and even more importantly, unroot to the point I can still use my warranty?
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As of right now there seemed to be no root for the Verizon version.
It's a cake walk for the At&t GS3
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It's a cake walk for the At&t GS3
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I know you can root without tripping the counter, but I thought roms still did. Am I wrong?
qwer777 said:
I know you can root without tripping the counter, but I thought roms still did. Am I wrong?
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Flashing ROMs will not trip the counter...anything flashed thru CWM won't trip it. ODIN does...someone please correct me if I'm wrong..pretty sure I'm right tho.
defnow said:
Flashing ROMs will not trip the counter...anything flashed thru CWM won't trip it. ODIN does...someone please correct me if I'm wrong..pretty sure I'm right tho.
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AWESOME! Now, it just needs to get easier(perhaps a one click solution or one done entirely from the phone). Hopefully by the time I get it mid august it'll be easier. The only pain in the ass is that, currently, it requires windows, does it not?
qwer777 said:
AWESOME! Now, it just needs to get easier(perhaps a one click solution or one done entirely from the phone). Hopefully by the time I get it mid august it'll be easier. The only pain in the ass is that, currently, it requires windows, does it not?
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Windows? After you actually have the phone in your hand and have read and searched the forums, let us know how things are going. Happy to help with the basics.
jcbofkc said:
Windows? After you actually have the phone in your hand and have read and searched the forums, let us know how things are going. Happy to help with the basics.
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Microsoft Windows, the os. It is required to do the no trip counter method right? I ask because I use linux full time.
Verizon has a locked boot loader and doesn't have Sims
Att (correct me if I'm wrong ) has ****ty lte coverage
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gtuansdiamm said:
Verizon has a locked boot loader and doesn't have Sims
Att (correct me if I'm wrong ) has ****ty lte coverage
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Well, in an area where my options are 'not LTE with Verizon' and 'Not LTE, but at least HSPA+ with AT&T' AND Verizon proceeds to lock the bootloader... I'm dropping Verizon after 6 years!
Think about it Verizon has a fast roll out of lte
Also after you've been a customer for a while you get special benefits
I know on sprint when I can't pay the bill on time I can just call and ask for a extension of about a week or so
This way my cell still has network access
As much as I like to pay my bills on time some times I can't and this helps
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Think about it Verizon has a fast roll out of lte
Also after you've been a customer for a while you get special benefits
I know on sprint when I can't pay the bill on time I can just call and ask for a extension of about a week or so
This way my cell still has network access
As much as I like to pay my bills on time some times I can't and this helps
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At&t has stretched my payment date by over two weeks before...as long as I make the promised payment they will do it every month and won't even charge me a late fee...
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The thing is you were on the carrier for a while
I heard that they don't do this to new customers
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gtuansdiamm said:
The thing is you were on the carrier for a while
I heard that they don't do this to new customers
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And even if they didn't, I plan to pay 6-10 months at once with student loans.
I wouldn't even consider Verizon with this whole bootloader issue. I say AT&T.
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elfhater said:
I wouldn't even consider Verizon with this whole bootloader issue. I say AT&T.
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I've concluded the same as well, but do I get a 2 yr contract, or buy the device outright and do $45/mo on straight talk?
Can someone who has the S3 with AT&T confirm the bootloader is unlocked. I am switching from Verizon and just want to make sure.
SpartanG087 said:
Can someone who has the S3 with AT&T confirm the bootloader is unlocked. I am switching from Verizon and just want to make sure.
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The bootloader is unlocked. I have Sprint but take my word on it, it's unlocked.
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elfhater said:
The bootloader is unlocked. I have Sprint but take my word on it, it's unlocked.
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I believe you and thanks. I am talking with a AT&T sales rep who said he knows what a bootloader is, but he is telling me it's locked. I don't have the S3 in my hands yet, but is there a way to check?
SpartanG087 said:
I believe you and thanks. I am talking with a AT&T sales rep who said he knows what a bootloader is, but he is telling me it's locked. I don't have the S3 in my hands yet, but is there a way to check?
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He can say the sky is purple it does not matter. The AT&T Galaxy S3 has an UNLOCKED bootloader. People already told you. If you don't believe them then stop asking.
Is there anyone get way to unlock bootloader of mopho 2.3.5 .. or any otherway to use any ics or jb rom ... plz tell
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My man! This is discussed countless times here already . You should search before posting. You can only unlock your bootloader if your device was on 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 shipped. If you have applied 2.3.5 update OTA, you cannot unlock your bootloader. There is no other way to install ICS or JB ROM without unlocking the bootloader.
And you've posted your QUESTION in DEVELOPMENT thread
Plz... devs... do something .. plz unlock bootloader.... m frustrated vid locked one...........
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Cooldevil1989 said:
Please devs do something. Please unlock the bootloader. I'm frustrated with the locked one...........
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It's not up to the devs. The OTA 2.3.5 encrypted the bootloader with a signed private key that only Motorola has access too.
If you want your bootloader unlocked, complain to Motorola. Start following the Support My Moto campaign, and help us out on that front.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32363139#
Waiting for unlocking of bootloader is becoming frustration .. motorola did this think is really. ???? Bad ..
Wishes wid u devs... al d best ... and show the motorola that u r best and smart then them...
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I got my phone used from a friend. How can I tell if it got the OTA installed?
Thanks
Jeff_in_LA said:
I got my phone used from a friend. How can I tell if it got the OTA installed?
Thanks
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Give this thread a look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650520
Guys, unfortunately if you want to flash custom roms, ur either going to have to move on to another platform, or try to find a MoPho with 2.3.4. Just accept it, this phone will be forgotten soon. Honestly, as much as I appreciate all the devs hard work, the custom roms on this phone are all lacking something, but that's not all their fault. Motorola screwed us all by cutting us out of the JB update. I think the MoPho works good out of the box. Rooting it alone is enough to make it a great phone.
I have not even been able to root my mopho since the update. Since my job will pay off the rest of my contract I am looking at a galaxy s3 or note2 through at&t. Any opinions out there? I have use Moto phones since Android came out, but this is a lame situation they put us in.
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richardhlee said:
I have not even been able to root my mopho since the update. Since my job will pay off the rest of my contract I am looking at a galaxy s3 or note2 through at&t. Any opinions out there? I have use Moto phones since Android came out, but this is a lame situation they put us in.
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Go with the note 2. It's no doubt the best phone I've ever had.
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Or if u don't want to get locked into another contract, get a Galaxy Nexus and go prepaid. I just picked one up a Sprint version on eBay in perfect condition for $200. I would love to have the SIII, but this Gnex is a great phone too. I loved my MoPho, but this phone puts it to shame. Easiest root and unlock I've ever seen on a phone, and the roms are amazing. Just saw LTE speeds for the first time the other day. Incredibly fast, and I got perfect signal where I never had one before. I highly recommend the Gnex.
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Or if u don't want to get locked into another contract, get a Galaxy Nexus and go prepaid. I just picked one up a Sprint version on eBay in perfect condition for $200. I would love to have the SIII, but this Gnex is a great phone too. I loved my MoPho, but this phone puts it to shame. Easiest root and unlock I've ever seen on a phone, and the roms are amazing. Just saw LTE speeds for the first time the other day. Incredibly fast, and I got perfect signal where I never had one before. I highly recommend the Gnex.
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What prepaid service are you on with your sprint gnex?
Sorry, I didn't explain well. I was just recommending prepaid. I'm not on prepaid yet, stuck with Sprint contract for another 8 months, but as soon as my contract expires I'll sell my Gnex and either buy another one hspa version, or an SIII. I'll proly go with Straight Talk or Solavei prepaid.
What exactly does this mean for us and rooting? The law seems extremely vague. Any answer would be greatly appreciated
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enik_fox said:
What exactly does this mean for us and rooting? The law seems extremely vague. Any answer would be greatly appreciated
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Your post is extremely vague also. I have no idea what you're even asking
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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styckx said:
Your post is extremely vague also. I have no idea what you're even asking
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Read some news. Its all over everything unless you happen to know of another law kicking into gear on the 26th.
duarian said:
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Thanks for the response. The wording is just so... Special its hard to make heads or tails of it.
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duarian said:
Pretty sure he is talking about unlocking cell phones becoming illegal on Saturday.
Means nothing to us tablet users. Our tablets aren't phones. From my understanding its more to prevent people from using phones on networks they aren't meant for.
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Please elaborate, what the **** is wrong with those bastards? I bought my device and I do whatever I want with it.
Fidelator said:
Please elaborate, what the **** is wrong with those bastards? I bought my device and I do whatever I want with it.
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And you still can but what this prevents you from doing is unlocking your phone and walking over to competing mobile provider B. and activating a phone with them that was originally only meant to work on mobile provider A. This is actually a good thing for Google.
styckx said:
And you still can but what this prevents you from doing is unlocking your phone and walking over to competing mobile provider B. and activating a phone with them that was originally only meant to work on mobile provider A. This is actually a good thing for Google.
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Actually this is just made to screw us customers and to help huge corporations in their never ending quest to get more money off us.
If someone buys a phone with a provider and switches it's because said provider didn't fit the needs of the customer needs, having choices is not bad at all.
The damn government is full of selfish bastards that just care about filling their pockets with bribes, this clearly doesn't help anyone.
Big Brother is not going to beat your door down because you unlocked your phone. Sorry if I ruin anyones day by posting that but unless you run a business doing that I wouldn't even sweat over it
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Big Brother is not going to beat your door down because you unlocked your phone. Sorry if I ruin anyones day by posting that but unless you run a business doing that I wouldn't even sweat over it
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The Galaxy unlock apps from the store might be banned and if we aren't lucky all of the *unlock your device* threads here in XDA will be gone too.
Here is an article and snippet that mentions tablets:
"Digital Millennium Copyright Act will make it illegal to jailbreak and unlock phones. According to the act, it is illegal to unlock both tablets and phones without permission from your wireless provider. ... Unfortunately, that window closes on Saturday, January 26th."
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/dmca-law-to-make-unlocking-phones-illegal-after-january-26th/
Of course any tablet without cell network connectivity or purchased from a cell provider is exempt.
so does this leave cyanogen mod in a tight spot? or can we still swap roms and stick with the current carrier?
I don't live in the US but it infuriates me when the government screws the people it's supposed to protect.
I sure hope none of you guys votes for the fags who passed this.
I agree it's a crock. Do we purchase the phone/tablet or rent it? If we are truly purchasing the phone then all they SHOULD be able to do is void our warranty.
This has nothing to do with rooting your phone or switching roms. The interpretation of the law is saying that you cannot take (for example) an AT&T phone that you bought on contract and unlock it to run on T-mobile without AT&T's permission. If you cancel your contract or it is up, AT&T says they will give you the unlock then.
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This has nothing to do with rooting your phone or switching roms. The interpretation of the law is saying that you cannot take (for example) an AT&T phone that you bought on contract and unlock it to run on T-mobile without AT&T's permission. If you cancel your contract or it is up, AT&T says they will give you the unlock then.
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Exactly.. It's not unfair, the `man' isn't holding you down and it's definitely not aliens..
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Exactly.. It's not unfair, the `man' isn't holding you down and it's definitely not aliens..
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Wasn't really worried about them holding me down... was more of a question of what is allowed and isn't... damn wording is so vague... i prefer the cyanogen roms... typically run much better than stock.
As long as i can still do that... i am happy.
Never know an alien could have provided blueprints for your phone
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Dont think it'll be enforced
I honestly dont think this law will be enforced.
Here in South Africa its illegal for the cellphone providers to lock the phones to the network. I guess lucky us.
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The provider sates "purchasing" the phone, and we all sign contracts with stated penalties for early termination. So basically they were able to convince the gov't to make a law to change the contract we already had with the provider.
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This isnt talking about rooting your phone, it is about unlocking which network it can be connected to. There are probably less than 1% of people in the US who ever unlock their phone to move them to a different carrier. Everyone in the US buys a new phone with a new contract, and most of the pay as you go stuff is unlocked anyway since you have to enter the APN info yourself or have a service rep do it.
The law itself is retarded and unneeded, and also shouldnt be within the realm of what government is allowed to say you can or cant do. But really it makes not one bit of different to just about anyone.
Worth a signature for s&g's response at the least.
http://wh.gov/VfI8
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Worth a signature for s&g's response at the least.
http://wh.gov/VfI8
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Signed.
Such acts shouldn't be aloud to continue in consumerism.
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You misspelled allowed which is strange because you spelled it correctly elsewhere. You do realize that the executive branch does not make the laws? If you want consumer protection then don't cry to the President, cry to your local, state, and federal legislators but even they aren't going to help you because you live in a capitalist country.
Most manufacturers claim they lock the bootloader because the carrier demands it. That seems to be the case with AT&T and Verizon but Sprint and T-Mobile have been pretty lax about bootloaders on other devices. If you really want to make change you gotta put your money where your mouth is. Avoid all devices that don't ship with unlockable bootloaders. Don't fall for that bull**** manufacturers feed you about promising to unlock the bootloader at a later time, you've seen how far promises get you right? Buy phones with bootloaders which can be unlocked immediately. I've ditched my Photon for a Galaxy Nexus and I don't regret it for an instant.
Money is the only thing that matters to these corporations. Buy a nexus and avoid carrier subsidized phones like the plague. Don't renew your contract with Sprint and move to a prepaid GSM network as soon as possible.