Hi all! I got my Razr Maxx in Singapore... just as Motorola was announcing it's pull-out from my region :crying:
Anywayz, I installed BMM and I quite like it, but I have a question:
I have my daily driver in slot-1, and I just installed a CM10-based rom on slot-2 (the special one that apparently uses unused partition space in Motorolas.
I was thinking of testing my slot-2 ROM further and installing apps, etc, so my question is, where are all these apps installed? Will they eat up usable space from my Rom Slot-1 system?
If 1 day I decide to packup my slot-2 system, how do I delete the slot-2 rom and all the associated data, apps etc?
If there's a BMM thread you guys could point me to would be much appreciated.
Cheers!
Slot-2 uses webtop partition which is unused of size 1.8GB and no it wont eat up any space from slot-1 as this is different partition....If u want to format then just goto format options in recovery of system-2 and format webtop partion...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149286 link to BMM support page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720351 link to BMM 02.7 which has answers to ur question
BMM 0.3.4, which is the only supported version at the moment (the current version is available in the Play Market), uses completely different approach, so you need to clarify which one you installed.
I'm using BMM 0.3.4
Got it while installing the Vodafone 4.1.2 ROM... now exploring other 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 ROMs using slot-2
Also, another query, I don't have an SD card in my phone, and my internal SD card isn't mounted when I boot to slot-2 on cm10.1 based ROMs! How do I manually mount it.. tried a few suggestions in various forums, but still doesn't work (camera app exits and says no SD card
I'm using SS 3.65 on my Droid Razr (XT912). I'm currently running SlimKat and, as backup, CM 10.1 on my two 'extra' slots.
I NEVER use the stock ROM anymore - I think in the last six months I've rebooting into it just one time. So I am wondering:
Can I just delete the stock ROM 'slot'? (and in doing so free up that memory for other use)
Or can I erase and put another ROM in that slot?
Finally, if I EVER needed stock again, is there a 'stock' ROM out there that I could flash back into that 'slot'?
I'd like to be able to use that memory space that the useless stock ROM takes up. Just don't know if this is safe to do... Or how to do it exactly.
Thanks.
-Tom
Runnin' SS 3.65, CM11 12/18, JBX 12/09, WIFIAP.zip, on "stock" slot. Stock slot is required and considered "non-recoverable" boot partition. Slots created by custom recoveries are "virtual", using system storage space to create and reduce internal storage space. There are various "stock" and "modded" stock roms available, as well as, utilities to root, reroot, and flash "stock" rom. You may flash on "stock", you can not delete or recover space, be sure "rom-of-choice" is working smooth, make back-ups, (i.e. nandroid/TB), flash to stock!! If "rom-of-choice" is working smooth on "stock" slot, you may "delete" virtual slots to "recover" internal storage space!!
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Runnin' SS 3.65, CM11 12/18, JBX 12/09, WIFIAP.zip, on "stock" slot. Stock slot is required and considered "non-recoverable" boot partition. Slots created by custom recoveries are "virtual", using system storage space to create and reduce internal storage space. There are various "stock" and "modded" stock roms available, as well as, utilities to root, reroot, and flash "stock" rom. You may flash on "stock", you can not delete or recover space, be sure "rom-of-choice" is working smooth, make back-ups, (i.e. nandroid/TB), flash to stock!! If "rom-of-choice" is working smooth on "stock" slot, you may "delete" virtual slots to "recover" internal storage space!!
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Sorry to knock the dust off an old post, but for the SS flash on the stock slot, did you just wipe cache, data, and android secure before you flashed? Or did you do something more extensive? Thanks.
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Hey all, I'm having a wee bit of troubles with getting this hyperdrive install to work. I'm using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301724
Here's what I'm having trouble with. When I go to create a virtual slot for a ROM, it gives me an assumed partition of over 5GB. I can only change the data partition size. I have watched videos of SS working well with the install, but when I go to boot options, it doesn't give me the option for partition size. SS version is 3.71. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Also, any way to free up any more system memory? I heard that Android takes up almost 8GB on these phones alone. So am I screwed for not getting a 16GB model (if they have one, idk)?
You need to flash a rom on the stock slot to be able to use all available space. This isn't supported by hashcode, the developer of safestrap, so be aware of the risk. Make sure you have odin and a tar file ready
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I have a 16 gb s4 and run 2 custom roms as well as the stock rom. I moved all data to my 32 gb extsd card.
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My apologies in advanced if this is an ignorant question. Is it OK to delete the stock ROM slot on safestrap and replace it with a custom ROM? If so how is the precise way to go about doing so?
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theErock said:
My apologies in advanced if this is an ignorant question. Is it OK to delete the stock ROM slot on safestrap and replace it with a custom ROM? If so how is the precise way to go about doing so?
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I've done it, and it's running great.
I first made a backup of the stock slot (I have a 64GB SD card, so plenty of room for backups ). Then, I also made a full backup of Slot 1, where I had CM installed, then wiped it so I would have more internal space. Then, with Stock slot selected, I simply went to install and picked the latest downloaded version of CM and gapps, installed just like it was on Slot 1, and things have worked great since!
Here's a bit more precise:
If you want to make backups
Boot into safestrap, select boot options and make sure the slot you're currently using (not stock!). Then, back to the main menu, choose backup. A bit more than halfway down, you'll see "Storage: " - I'd make sure your external card is selected - simply tap on storage to see which one / change it. Then, just swipe to back up.
Next, select boot options and select Stock, then repeat the next steps to back it up.
If you want more space
Next, go to boot options, select slot 1 (or where you have it installed), and delete it. (Make note of the size - I might be wrong, but if you ever want to restore the slot 1 backup, you'll want the same size created later).
Overwrite stock
Back in boot options, select Stock Rom, return to main menu and select Install. After this, just continue as if you're installing on a different slot. Assuming you've downloaded the latest CM and gapps (can't post full links ... grrr ... https [...] download [dot] cyanogenmod [dot] org [slash] ?device=spyder and saved it to your SD card, navigate to the rom zip file, select it, then add the gapps file.
If you have any trouble, post a reply. It was actually several months ago that I did this, so I actually don't remember if there was anything I had to do afterwards, but I believe it went smoothly.
Good luck!
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I've done it, and it's running great.
I first made a backup of the stock slot (I have a 64GB SD card, so plenty of room for backups ). Then, I also made a full backup of Slot 1, where I had CM installed, then wiped it so I would have more internal space. Then, with Stock slot selected, I simply went to install and picked the latest downloaded version of CM and gapps, installed just like it was on Slot 1, and things have worked great since!
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Thanks for all the details! I have to give this a try when I have an SD card with more memory (only have a 16gb internal sim card which is what was partitioned with safestrap, and only a 2gb external).
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theErock said:
Thanks for all the details! I have to give this a try when I have an SD card with more memory (only have a 16gb internal sim card which is what was partitioned with safestrap, and only a 2gb external).
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Backups are optional, of course - you could always try it without
gotmikhail said:
Backups are optional, of course - you could always try it without
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If safestrap was installed originally on stock ROM do I have to install it on ROM slot 1 where my custom is on? I don't have the zip anymore that I used the flash the custom on. What I really want to do is replace the stock with something smoother and different features. I'm perplexed because if I delete the Stock does that delete my recovery that boots my custom?
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theErock said:
If safestrap was installed originally on stock ROM do I have to install it on ROM slot 1 where my custom is on? I don't have the zip anymore that I used the flash the custom on. What I really want to do is replace the stock with something smoother and different features. I'm perplexed because if I delete the Stock does that delete my recovery that boots my custom?
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Shouldn't have to worry about that at all. I didn't do anything special. Internal storage is actually separate from the system level - people can correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology, but the point is, if it wipes your internal storage, it's actually not wiping the system level - it will overwrite stock, but you won't lose the recovery.
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Shouldn't have to worry about that at all. I didn't do anything special. Internal storage is actually separate from the system level - people can correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology, but the point is, if it wipes your internal storage, it's actually not wiping the system level - it will overwrite stock, but you won't lose the recovery.
At least, I didn't ...
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Also, if it makes you feel more comfortable, I recently made a full backup of the stock slot w/ CM11 on it, restored the original stock I had and booted it just fine in order to do some stuff with the verizon voicemail app (maybe I could have installed it in CM11, but I didn't want to), then rebooted to safestrap, restored CM11 to stock, rebooted and everything worked fine.
Yeah something is making me reluctant & apprehensive about doing if. On scared I'm might brick it.
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Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.
karll123 said:
Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.
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Tell me how it goes cause I'm scared to death of bricking my device I'd I do so. Good luck!
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karll123 said:
Thanks forth this I really need to do this myself.
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The primary drive for me was storage. Basically, with caching music offline and photos, the slot image basically just kept filling up. I tried multiple things, even going with a symbolic link method that I found ... somewhere on this forum ... but that still didn't work.
Since then, I haven't had any issues.
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theErock said:
Tell me how it goes cause I'm scared to death of bricking my device I'd I do so. Good luck!
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I've messed up several things in the past through the learning process, including flashing a build for the 910 instead of the 912 onto my phone, and I was able to recover from that. But, replacing stock w/ CM actually went very smoothly.
Feel free to message me directly with any questions - but continuing on the thread will probably be helpful for others.
gotmikhail said:
The primary drive for me was storage. Basically, with caching music offline and photos, the slot image basically just kept filling up. I tried multiple things, even going with a symbolic link method that I found ... somewhere on this forum ... but that still didn't work.
Since then, I haven't had any issues.
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I've messed up several things in the past through the learning process, including flashing a build for the 910 instead of the 912 onto my phone, and I was able to recover from that. But, replacing stock w/ CM actually went very smoothly.
Feel free to message me directly with any questions - but continuing on the thread will probably be helpful for others.
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Do you use bootloader or a recovery system like Safestrap or bmm (I think)
When I proceed to do so on safestrap it gives me a warning in red signifying not to install or wipe.
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theErock said:
When I proceed to do so on safestrap it gives me a warning in red signifying not to install or wipe.
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I use SafeStrap and yes it warns you with the red lettering about wiping/installing to stock because you're losing the safety net of having the stock ROM still installed on your phone.
I ran ROMs in slot 1 for several weeks to make sure it was stable before flashing to the stock slot.
I made sure my backup of the stock rom was in a safe place and made a fresh backup of my slot 1 install.
With the stock slot active, I went into Wipe then Advanced Wipe and selected everything except Internal Storage and Micro SDCard.
Then, Installed my ROM zip, GApps, and other zips that I use.
Then, I restored only the data partition (not system) from slot 1 backup I'd just made.
Rebooted and profited!
Keep in mind that the stock slot system partition is only 636mb, so something like the PA Stock GApps won't fit.
mikeoswego said:
I use SafeStrap and yes it warns you with the red lettering about wiping/installing to stock because you're losing the safety net of having the stock ROM still installed on your phone.
I ran ROMs in slot 1 for several weeks to make sure it was stable before flashing to the stock slot.
I made sure my backup of the stock rom was in a safe place and made a fresh backup of my slot 1 install.
With the stock slot active, I went into Wipe then Advanced Wipe and selected everything except Internal Storage and Micro SDCard.
Then, Installed my ROM zip, GApps, and other zips that I use.
Then, I restored only the data partition (not system) from slot 1 backup I'd just made.
Rebooted and profited!
Keep in mind that the stock slot system partition is only 636mb, so something like the PA Stock GApps won't fit.
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Thanks for the details. So using stock wouldn't take use of the 16gb that your SIM comes w/? Where does all that storage go?
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theErock said:
Thanks for the details. So using stock wouldn't take use of the 16gb that your SIM comes w/? Where does all that storage go?
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The stock 16gb is split in half, 8gb is the Internal SD storage available for any use, the other 8gb is used by the system including what SafeStrap calls the stock slot.
In SafeStrap, when you set up a ROM slot, the partition defaults are a usable 688mb for system, 1968mb for data, and 295mb for cache.
Motorola allocated the following usable in the stock slot, 636mb for system, 3078mb for data, and 1007mb for cache. So that is almost 5gb of that 8gb used by the system. Then the Webtop partition uses close to another 1gb. None of this can be changed.
If you flash to the stock slot, you will have your full 8gb of original internal storage since nothing is needed for ROM slots. You will also have a 3gb data partition which is loads of room for whatever apps you might want to install. The 1gb for the cache will help if you do video or audio streaming.
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The stock 16gb is split in half, 8gb is the Internal SD storage available for any use, the other 8gb is used by the system including what SafeStrap calls the stock slot.
In SafeStrap, when you set up a ROM slot, the partition defaults are a usable 688mb for system, 1968mb for data, and 295mb for cache.
Motorola allocated the following usable in the stock slot, 636mb for system, 3078mb for data, and 1007mb for cache. So that is almost 5gb of that 8gb used by the system. Then the Webtop partition uses close to another 1gb. None of this can be changed.
If you flash to the stock slot, you will have your full 8gb of original internal storage since nothing is needed for ROM slots. You will also have a 3gb data partition which is loads of room for whatever apps you might want to install. The 1gb for the cache will help if you do video or audio streaming.
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OK that makes sense thanks for elaborating on that :thumbup:
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Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
karll123 said:
Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Good luck!
karll123 said:
Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Like wise tell me how it goes. :thumbup:
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Just got home need to fully charge battery then try to do this, wish me luck.
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Success?
Not yet need new SD card I guess backed up stock, cheched to make sure everything was there and SD was empty. I won't replace stock enless I have the backups.