I see other carriers have been able to gain root access. I am wondering if anyone is working in a root?? Would love to donate for a root + wifi tether abilty (heck, even just root). Maybe us Sprint users can get a "bounty" going. I cant be the only one wanting root access and to able to take advantage of thesr amazing Spark speeds.
From what I know the reason sprint doesn't have root with the others is because it was given an update the other carriers never implanted.
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This thread talks about it a bit. Seems to be in the works and we may have it pretty soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/help/zv4-root-t2834145
There's also this info that just came out today.
http://phandroid.com/2014/08/08/lg-official-bootloader-unlock-solution-coming-soon/
kmshadoze said:
I see other carriers have been able to gain root access. I am wondering if anyone is working in a root?? Would love to donate for a root + wifi tether abilty (heck, even just root). Maybe us Sprint users can get a "bounty" going. I cant be the only one wanting root access and to able to take advantage of thesr amazing Spark speeds.
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Wrong thread bud
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Yeah, wrong thread. Got very excited for about 2 minutes
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GraphGPT said:
This thread talks about it a bit. Seems to be in the works and we may have it pretty soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/help/zv4-root-t2834145
There's also this info that just came out today.
http://phandroid.com/2014/08/08/lg-official-bootloader-unlock-solution-coming-soon/
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LG won't be unlocking the bootloader anytime soon. Go read the thread in the main G3 forum for the discussion.
MY understanding is that the reason the LS990 doesn't take the same root exploit as the other variants is that the directory structure is different so the vulnerability doesn't exist as it does on the others. Whether that is due to an update (that must have happened at manufacture as it was different on launch day) I can't say. And there may be other reasons, but that is the one I know about.
There is at least one method that is pending release, but the most optimistic date we have is mid-August, and my guess is even later owing to some bad eggs stirring the pot.
The answer to this question, every time somebody starts a thread like this, is WE DON'T KNOW when we'll get root, but we PROBABLY will and all we can do is WAIT. It's not for lack of interest that we're stuck waiting, so pounding on the door won't get it open any sooner.
Final thought: This forum will explode with threads all saying the same thing when a method is released, so you won't miss it.
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I heard it was out already, but it's just not being posted here for everyone else. There was a guy with a Craigslist ad in PA that was offering to root ZV4 for $50, but of course you have to meet him as he doesn't do it remotely. Jcase confirmed that he was legit in another thread.
Therefore, someone is being stingy...
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I heard it was out already, but it's just not being posted here for everyone else. There was a guy with a Craigslist ad in PA that was offering to root ZV4 for $50, but of course you have to meet him as he doesn't do it remotely. Jcase confirmed that he was legit in another thread.
Therefore, someone is being stingy...
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Ummm...SilverZero found and emailed him a few weeks ago. At least I think it was him.
haoleflip said:
I heard it was out already, but it's just not being posted here for everyone else. There was a guy with a Craigslist ad in PA that was offering to root ZV4 for $50, but of course you have to meet him as he doesn't do it remotely. Jcase confirmed that he was legit in another thread.
Therefore, someone is being stingy...
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There is more to the work of releasing a root then being stingy. If people like you keep trying to turn it around like you are entitled to the work of others, it will only keep you waiting longer. So Stop it!
There are a ton of reasons not to release it even if Root is possible, the actual process of Rooting the device may be a technical process that 90% of users would screw up and end up blaming the creator for.
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There is more to the work of releasing a root then being stingy. If people like you keep trying to turn it around like you are entitled to the work of others, it will only keep you waiting longer. So Stop it!
There are a ton of reasons not to release it even if Root is possible, the actual process of Rooting the device may be a technical process that 90% of users would screw up and end up blaming the creator for.
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First, I don't think I am entitled to anything. I am just making it known that it is available and has been confirmed available, but someone is holding out. Nowhere did I say something like "give it to me now or else" or anything of the sort. I was just making it known and yes, I am waiting patiently like everyone else.
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Ummm...SilverZero found and emailed him a few weeks ago. At least I think it was him.
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I didn't find him, somebody else posted about him, I just contacted him to get info. Honestly, I wouldn't pay 50 bucks even if I was local to him, I don't have that kind of money to spend on something like that, but he seemed genuine in his goals and his reasoning.
Anyway, the point is, let's not get at each other about being patient or acting entitled or whatever. We're all in the same boat. We're all waiting patiently (or impatiently, but it makes no difference). We can't sweet talk the devs who have the means and the knowledge, and we certainly can't manipulate or intimidate them into moving any more quickly than they wish. Heck, jcase is in Vegas with his family and was laid up with a fever and a sore throat to boot, and he's still been working (on other devices, but still). He's not just sitting at his desk reading these threads with his fingers tented and an evil grin. It's just not at the top of anybody's to-do list. We just have to trust that it's moving up every day.
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I didn't find him, somebody else posted about him, I just contacted him to get info. Honestly, I wouldn't pay 50 bucks even if I was local to him, I don't have that kind of money to spend on something like that, but he seemed genuine in his goals and his reasoning.
Anyway, the point is, let's not get at each other about being patient or acting entitled or whatever. We're all in the same boat. We're all waiting patiently (or impatiently, but it makes no difference). We can't sweet talk the devs who have the means and the knowledge, and we certainly can't manipulate or intimidate them into moving any more quickly than they wish. Heck, jcase is in Vegas with his family and was laid up with a fever and a sore throat to boot, and he's still been working (on other devices, but still). He's not just sitting at his desk reading these threads with his fingers tented and an evil grin. It's just not at the top of anybody's to-do list. We just have to trust that it's moving up every day.
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I have no problem paying for him to root , he did the work. I am local and hope to hear back as I responded to his ad.
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I have no problem paying for him to root , he did the work. I am local and hope to hear back as I responded to his ad.
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Cool, be sure to let us know how it goes.
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I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making a bomb kernel for our Phones once we get root! Because we will get root eventually! Anywhozle please state your donation and stay true to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Price: $469.99 (AMAZON PRICE i've been told)
Donations (6/30/11): $200 (WOW IN 2 DAYS, Gr8 guys Keep it coming!!!!!)
CLICK HERE TO DONATE AND CHECK GOAL STATUS TOO
http://netarchyevo3d.chipin.com/evo-3d
Since We are ROOTED NOW donate what you can, ANything Helps!!!! ))))
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I've edited a previous post of mine on the first page, but I'm going to repost it here as well in case anyone misses it.
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Since this thread has apparently been relocated, and the issues I raised with the original approach the OP took have been fixed, I can confirm that any donations going through the chipin link in the original posters post are indeed being directed at me for the purposes of raising funds to acquire an Evo 3D.
If the community sees fit to buy me the phone, I will be happy to develop for it, but I will not promise unrealistic miracles.
I can't promise that you'll suddenly win the lottery, or have better luck in life.
I can promise that any android device I own will get development time from me (yes that includes kernel development).
You should not feel obligated in any way to participate. The fact is, even if I don't get the phone, there is inevitably going to be a strong development community behind this phone. A good portion of teamwin have the phone, and given the strong sales it's a safe bet that there will be many other developers as well. Any participation in the OP fundraiser should be considered completely voluntary; I will not solicit anyone in this regard.
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I really am trying to figure out if this is violation of the rules of XDA. I see what you are trying to do, but others may not.
Also I believe this shouldn't be here either, but we'll leave those who have power to decide. Be prepared for people who are going to be rude.
Good luck!
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I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making bomb kernels for our fones once we get root! cuz we will get root! lol but anywhozle plz state ur donation and stay tru to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Start your Donations!!!! ))))
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Seriously? Need to stop and remove this garbage
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Language butchery is an art.
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Language butchery is A art.
DDiaz007 said:
I really am trying to figure out if this is violation of the rules of XDA. I see what you are trying to do, but others may not.
Also I believe this shouldn't be here either, but we'll leave those who have power to decide. Be prepared for people who are going to be rude.
Good luck!
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I hope not, totally not tryin to break any rules or rub the wrong way, just trying to help, so mods if need be please remove thread. I'm sooooo not trying to start any trouble.
no head hurts after reading that
hotboy8628 said:
I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making a bomb kernel for our Phones once we get root! Because we will get root eventually! Anywhozle please state your donation and stay true to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Start your Donations!!!! ))))
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It's nice what your doing but I think the link should come down. We all know how to send him donations. I have sent in many in the past to other developers.
I would like to do the same for Mik but we can't have a post for every dev. Im sure you see why they don't want us to post things like this.
Good luck with your mission..
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EDIT: Since this thread has apparently been relocated, and the issues I raised with the original approach the OP took have been fixed, I can confirm that any donations going through the chipin link in the original posters post are indeed being directed at me for the purposes of raising funds to acquire an Evo 3D.
I will be happy to develop for it, but I will not promise unrealistic miracles.
I can't promise that you'll suddenly win the lottery, or have better luck in life.
I can promise that if I'm able to get the phone, it will get kernel development efforts from me.
You should not feel obligated in any way to participate. The fact is, even if I don't get the phone, there is inevitably going to be a strong development community behind this phone. A good portion of teamwin have the phone, and given the strong sales it's a safe bet that there will be many other developers as well. Any participation in the OP fundraiser should be considered completely voluntary; I will not solicit anyone in this regard.
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Ok, if you want to do some kind of fundraiser type thing to get me a phone to work on, I won't turn it down (I'm no fool!), but you should do something with a defined goal and visible progress, not a post with my direct donation link.
The way you've got this at the moment does not look particularly good; there's no way for anyone to know what the total raised is, etc.
Also, this is probably in the wrong forum.
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Netarchy do you even want the 3D?
If you do then awesome and can't wait.
Why $549? you can get them new for $450 off CL or from me or from ebay so why $549?
What's with all the hate for this idea?
Net is one of my favorite developers and I can only WISH he would join the 3D family.
And how is this against the rules? This is done in every other phone section.. whats wrong with being here??
This forum is getting duller by the post.
novanosis85 said:
Netarchy do you even want the 3D?
If you do then awesome and can't wait.
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It'd be a fun phone to work on sure ;D If I were a rich man I'd prolly own most of the phones from all the carriers.
arozer said:
What's with all the hate for this idea?
Net is one of my favorite developers and I can only WISH he would join the 3D family.
And how is this against the rules? This is done in every other phone section.. whats wrong with being here??
This forum is getting duller by the post.
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I do not care if they do this i just see no reason to raise $549.00 when you can get the same thing for $400 to $450 elsewhere.
The op just did it wrong i think is why many are upset because no way to track how much and my reason why $549? that is sprints over priced price not what you can get them for.
Id use 1 of my upgrades and sell it for $425 bingo saved 100$ already.See what i mean by the op? he just did it wrong is all.
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Why $549? you can get them new for $450 off CL or from me or from ebay so why $549?
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I just took the retail price off sprint.com cuz net is a verizon customer and not sprint, but if it's found somewhere cheaper great!!!! but Idk if we will raise funds soon enuff to get a CL or Ebay Evo 3D, so that was my reasoning
This thread should be removed. Where are the evo 3d moderators?? The development section has a lot of garbage in it
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hotboy8628 said:
I just took the retail price off sprint.com cuz net is a verizon customer and not sprint, but if it's found somewhere cheaper great!!!! but Idk if we will raise funds soon enuff to get a CL or Ebay Evo 3D, so that was my reasoning
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Isn't netarchy on tmob with a nexus s?
I admit that I groaned when I saw this thread but I have to say that I applaud the idea. Maybe a better method could be suggested? I have no idea what that is though. I know this has been done in the past but, to be honest, I've never paid much attention to "donation" threads.
I would be happy to donate $$ to get netarchy this phone. Not just to get him to root it, but for all he's given to this community!
sent my $5. i know it isnt much, but every lil bit helps
wait would he be coming over from Verizon? sprint gives 125 for jumping carriers and the 3VO is only 200 on new plans...they might even buy his old/other phone from him....im not sure if they will from another carrier but they bought my evo 4g back from me for 150. Phone only cost me 50 bucks.
For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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what are you talking about? There's always problems, if you don't wanna read them then stay out the QnA section since that's what there for
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For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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welcome to rooting for me
YES its worth it 1000000000%
The forum is usually a place for questions, consumption & troubleshooting. I can post a thread about how happy I am if anyone cares. : p
But yeah that would be why you see what you see.
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Yup problems will be there no matter what but i preffer this threads then stuff about another phone or some problems with the phone itself, love root
And we would have less if people will read more thread or the whole description of how to root and what really is
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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what are you talking about? There's always problems, if you don't wanna read them then stay out the QnA section since that's what there for
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Yea there were some minor problems before root but now look...people losing 4g not being able to send and recieve messages. Web not working. Some batteries got better some peoples phones wont turn on at all lol. But the funny thing is. All these problems people are having from rooting if they dont get fixed there gona go into sprint store complaining.
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Im not lookin to start trouble or discredit the devs who busted there asses to get s-off. But im sure alot of people wanna root dont bc they see all these problems.
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Yea there were some minor problems before root but now look...people losing 4g not being able to send and recieve messages. Web not working. Some batteries got better some peoples phones wont turn on at all lol. But the funny thing is. All these problems people are having from rooting if they dont get fixed there gona go into sprint store complaining.
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I dunno, the "no calls/txt/data" is a problem that is hit-or-miss when you do a hands-free-activation....root or not. It happened to me, took me under 2 minutes to have fixed by Sprint, who did it happily.
People losing 4G? I don't think this network is robust enough to blame that on root...and even if that is in an area with a rock solid 4G signal I still think there may be some user intervention at play that isn't the fault of getting s-off all by it self.
The funky "turning on, or not, or plugged in, or not, or take out battery, or sdcard, or both, or not" problems were there from the begining...I used to think it was only certain phones, but, I think it's all phones in certain conditions. Being s-off and rooted gives us the ability to put the phone into more conditions where that may or may not happen.
...and as far as battery performance is concerned it's nearly impossible to prove that it ISN'T user/application related. I'm not saying it definitely IS their fault, but, it's impossible to prove that...so many conditions vary for your phone so frequently every day even if yours do not that battery life claims are nearly impossible to prove and impossible to refute based on any changed variable all by itself....not to mention a near 100% chance of someone else reporting the exact opposite condition.
...aside from my data going slow after hands-free-activation (which is fixed in 2 minutes) I have experienced none of these problems after rooting...okay, I take that back, I have experienced the "sometimes it turns on while plugged in, sometimes it doesn't"...but, it did that before s-off/root as well.
...and let's not forget that the s-off hack likely has nothing to do with these issues. I have the eng hboot...non-hacked. Just the way god intended. If it is from anything it would be from the rooting of the ROM, which I still doubt.
Honestly, compared to the initial period after the s-off/root exploits releases for other devices this doesn't seem out of the ordinary at all...and no offense meant, but, are you new to this?
EDIT: Oh yeah, to answer your question....yes, s-off and rooting were VERY worth it to me. Now bring on the AOSP
No way. I hate having a better phone
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I want to root my phone. The advantage far outweight the disadvantage? I am going to wait 1 more week.
Oh, I dont have any insurance on my new 3D phone.
Two words: User error. The problems you see are because people do not know what they are doing. Simple as that. Rooting your phone does nothing but give you permission to be able to do what you want to do with "your" phone.
No offense OP. But you sound like a news reporter trying desperately to make a name for himself by finding some giant issue in something that has mostly only brought joy to everyone.
"TONIGHT!!. Jon Andersen goes on localtion to uncover the truth behind...PUPPIES!. what he finds may disgust you to the point of wanting to flush your own puppy. Stay tuned!!"
Are We Not Phones?
We are EVO.
ARE WE NOT PHONES?!
3DEVO!
jayharper08 said:
Two words: User error. The problems you see are because people do not know what they are doing. Simple as that. Rooting your phone does nothing but give you permission to be able to do what you want to do with "your" phone.
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Yeah, that's a really good point. I think that Sprint in general has probably been taking in a lot of new users, likely mostly smartphone users, because of the unlimited data thing...and the fact that Sprint actually has the most compelling collection of smartphones right this second IMHO. Sadly I'm thinking about jumping ship since this signal is just useless to me in most places now, and that's to say nothing of the over-loaded network.
...not to mention the droves of E4G defectors who were following the developers, and the larger and more frequent droves of defectors from every phone from the last generation that want the developer support that the E4G had but they definitely did not see...and then there are all of the people who finally got off of their contract from Heros and Moments from when they were still hot items....
...so, yeah, there is just so many goddamned people in here that I'd be surprised if there weren't more complaints on average. Contrast this to the NookColor forum where there are far more actual tricky problems but nobody blames the root method for them missing a step or not understanding a process...not to mention how god damned civil it is around there.
Yeah, good call...
I dont need to explain myself. You, do not know what the hell you are talking about.
How is improving your phone worse? People ***** when the phone is not rooted..and people ***** when the phone is rooted.
Worst troll post ever.....
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For the whole month of waiting for S-off the only thing that was going on in here was people complaing and bashing other people. Well now that we have S-off it seems every thread is someone having problems with there phone after they rooted it. It seems to me this is why sprint and htc dont want us toying with these phones. Rooting a phone is suppose to make it better correct? It seeme to me its making the phones worst
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To me it was worth it. However I've noticed many issues are because folks don't read, can't follow instructions, make changes without knowing WHAT they are doing.
Sorry but if you don't know what changes you're making, what issues they cause, how to fix, how to undo what you screwed up, then they shouldn't be rooting, flashing and changing settings.
By "you" I don't necessarily mean you, but more of a "folks in general".
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Yeah, that's a really good point. I think that Sprint in general has probably been taking in a lot of new users, likely mostly smartphone users, because of the unlimited data thing...and the fact that Sprint actually has the most compelling collection of smartphones right this second IMHO. Sadly I'm thinking about jumping ship since this signal is just useless to me in most places now, and that's to say nothing of the over-loaded network.
...not to mention the droves of E4G defectors who were following the developers, and the larger and more frequent droves of defectors from every phone from the last generation that want the developer support that the E4G had but they definitely did not see...and then there are all of the people who finally got off of their contract from Heros and Moments from when they were still hot items....
...so, yeah, there is just so many goddamned people in here that I'd be surprised if there weren't more complaints on average. Contrast this to the NookColor forum where there are far more actual tricky problems but nobody blames the root method for them missing a step or not understanding a process...not to mention how god damned civil it is around there.
Yeah, good call...
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Agree with everything you said Dan.
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Compusmurf said:
To me it was worth it. However I've noticed many issues are because folks don't read, can't follow instructions, make changes without knowing WHAT they are doing.
Sorry but if you don't know what changes you're making, what issues they cause, how to fix, how to undo what you screwed up, then they shouldn't be rooting, flashing and changing settings.
By "you" I don't necessarily mean you, but more of a "folks in general".
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Thanks these are the types of non bashing answers i was simply lookin for
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felacio said:
No offense OP. But you sound like a news reporter trying desperately to make a name for himself by finding some giant issue in something that has mostly only brought joy to everyone.
"TONIGHT!!. Jon Andersen goes on localtion to uncover the truth behind...PUPPIES!. what he finds may disgust you to the point of wanting to flush your own puppy. Stay tuned!!"
Are We Not Phones?
We are EVO.
ARE WE NOT PHONES?!
3DEVO!
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Lol tryin to get famous? From xda lol? I could give 2 sh!t$ about that. I have a goddamn life you obviously must not.....i tell you what hop out of this thread and start scrollin down genera and Q&A. Everyones complain root did somethin to there phone
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bmoreboy02 said:
Lol tryin to get famous? From xda lol? I could give 2 sh!t$ about that. I have a goddamn life you obviously must not.....i tell you what hop out of this thread and start scrollin down genera and Q&A. Everyones complain root did somethin to there phone
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Hey dude, it was a joke... I read your post and that is how it looked to me.
And really?... basing the success of something on a DEVELOPERS forum's Q&A section?
I can pull up every single phones Q&A section and get just as many, probably more issues in the general dates of when they where first rooted/cracked/jailbroken.
Soooooo, chill buddy.
not trying to scare anyone, just a PSA
we know the droid 3 exploit works (its how about 97% of you rooted). however the electrify has a 2.3.5 update that blocks it.. which means that photon owners will prolly be rootless come next update. :O
the man who has brought out a good number of root exploits, Dan Rosenberg has a new trick up his sleeve. seems hes already got the next wave of motos rooted including the droid 4 that released today. thing is there is gunna be a lot of people using it (i know its what ill be changing the one click to so that we can root the electrify. and think about how many other moto devices that will be freed. with that in mind djrbliss is looking to get himself a droid 4 (ew who uses verizon? ).
anyways long story short, i included a we pay link he gets 200 he'll make it public and then any extra goes to the american red cross. so if you have root now, or in the future its prolly cuz of this guy. if your an electrify owner and want a nice easy one click? then shoot this guy a few bucks
https://www.wepay.com/donations/droid-4-root-bounty
shabbypenguin said:
not trying to scare anyone, just a PSA
we know the droid 3 exploit works (its how about 97% of you rooted). however the electrify has a 2.3.5 update that blocks it.. which means that photon owners will prolly be rootless come next update. :O
the man who has brought out a good number of root exploits, Dan Rosenberg has a new trick up his sleeve. seems hes already got the next wave of motos rooted including the droid 4 that released today. thing is there is gunna be a lot of people using it (i know its what ill be changing the one click to so that we can root the electrify. and think about how many other moto devices that will be freed. with that in mind djrbliss is looking to get himself a droid 4 (ew who uses verizon? ).
anyways long story short, i included a we pay link he gets 200 he'll make it public and then any extra goes to the american red cross. so if you have root now, or in the future its prolly cuz of this guy. if your an electrify owner and want a nice easy one click? then shoot this guy a few bucks
https://www.wepay.com/donations/droid-4-root-bounty
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Incorrect. When it reaches $500 he'll release it.
I'll be glad to kick in $20 whenever the time comes that I need to root for ICS or have to re-root because I couldn't ignore 2.3.5 (I'll ignore 2.3.5 if I can).
What if CM team ask for money before releasing or joker.....think about that for a min. Smh.
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radrian92 said:
What if CM team ask for money before releasing or joker.....think about that for a min. Smh.
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i could see where that is fitting i suppose. i knew most of the people who would be interested would be people who are locked out of root (droid 4) and possibly electrify owners that want a one click. just figured id let people know since he has done a whole lot for the rooting community.. :/
http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2012/02/11/rooting-the-droid-4-a-failed-bounty-experiment/
he posted a nice blog entry on it :/
ill be updateing the one click for its use, and putting a donate to him link
Wow! I guess if you aren't cooking ROMs, you can forget ever getting a donation...
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Wow! I guess if you aren't cooking ROMs, you can forget ever getting a donation...
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How is $575 (and he has stopped accepting) a failure?
With all respect to the dev, I think the mistake he made was the "I'll release it when y'all pay $500". THAT (his message) was the failure in the "experiment". The $200 for a phone was not the issue.
'nuff said - I am NOT trying to inflame anything here. I believe the dev has done awesome free work for us, but could have avoided all of this with slightly different words.
People are still people and the psychology of messages still counts!
Please take all the above ramblings in a respectful, positive and helpful tone!
No offense but if he did it, he has the right to wait for 500. 99% of us work for free. Ad clicks and donations are nice but not expected. That doesn't mean we don't have to work for free it just means we do.
So if you want to donate, its your money.
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No offense but if he did it, he has the right to wait for 500. 99% of us work for free. Ad clicks and donations are nice but not expected. That doesn't mean we don't have to work for free it just means we do.
So if you want to donate, its your money.
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I totally agree - he had every right to set a number and not release until that number was reached. He has no obligation to unlock phones for free.
But we'll never know in this case since he changed the rules mid-experiment, which means the experiment neither failed nor succeeded. When I saw the way he originally announced it, I thought "this won't end well" (see below for more).
The point I was trying to make was that, from a human psych POV, that a bounty (really a ransom here) is not an effective motivator for a bunch of opinionated, strong-willed contributors like us.
Case in point - a few years ago at ppcGeeks, $300 bounty, "release when paid" for a Win Mo phone (TP2 I think), people got ruffled, rules got changed, dev collected $1,000 in 2 days.
It's all about psychology and messaging, for although we are are bit different from a lot of people, we are still normal people. A carrot remains a better motivator than a stick.
In my opinion, the dev should have said "hard work", "please contribute", "first 200 to me for a phone which is a tool that will benefit you", "next 100 / 200 for my family", "rest to charity" (if that's really what he wants to; keep it all if he wants). Just my opinion of course - and I respect that the dev may or may not care in the slightest about all my words (assume he doesn't).
Sorry for the number of words - although an engineer, I took a lot of psych in college.
Dude shoulda bought a phone. Sheesh. Its donations, he can do what he wants with it.
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Dude shoulda bought a phone. Sheesh. Its donations, he can do what he wants with it.
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Yes - he should have bought a phone, and then dinner for his wife/gf ....... I told him that via a different route; also told him no matter what he did, he'd get some snarky comments that he should just ignore.
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This guys getting paid from most likely our fellow xda devs... i just flagged all his craigslist posting...
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well, i mean you never know...
but if i were to make a posting like that, i would make it say that i would do it for the users who want it but are afraid to mess up. and then i would basically state all the things that i know how to do and my forum profiles. and what i would charge would depend on how annoyingly painstaking the process is to get them the wanted feature.
in other posting this guy has said hes been hacking android since 4 yrs before g1 was released, i didnt know there was a Droid before the g1/dream
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in other posting this guy has said hes been hacking android since 4 yrs before g1 was released, i didnt know there was a Droid before the g1/dream
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haha there wasnt
That's nothing new...if you are lazy or dumb enough to pay for it then go for it. People offer paid services like that for everything from iPhones to Xboxes..ya know
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Spastic909 said:
That's nothing new...if you are lazy or dumb enough to pay for it then go for it. People offer paid services like that for everything from iPhones to Xboxes..ya know
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It's not about being lazy, it's about the conformity. We all go to the mechanic to fix our cars unless you know how to fix it, obviously. That's just how it works man. I do think that people not giving credit to the devs and all of the people that make this happen is really messed up though.
I don't believe in these kinds of businesses, here in Puerto Rico, there are lots of stores that dedicate themselves to hack iPhones or as they call it "unlock" it. And they charge like 30$!! It's ridiculous! I get disgusted every time I see one
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I don't believe in these kinds of businesses, here in Puerto Rico, there are lots of stores that dedicate themselves to hack iPhones or as they call it "unlock" it. And they charge like 30$!! It's ridiculous! I get disgusted every time I see one
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well its the same as a computer repair store pretty much...
but i dont believe in people stretching the truth so much like the snippet that was posted in the op. i mean if you want to help someone who's afraid to do it themselves, and they are willing to give you a couple bucks why not? now i wouldnt charge $30 for anything... the highest i'd go would be $10 lol
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well its the same as a computer repair store pretty much...
but i dont believe in people stretching the truth so much like the snippet that was posted in the op. i mean if you want to help someone who's afraid to do it themselves, and they are willing to give you a couple bucks why not? now i wouldnt charge $30 for anything... the highest i'd go would be $10 lol
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Yeah I also wouldn't make a big business out of either like the people I mentioned, I'll be honest, puertorricans can be pretty dumb most of the time, lol
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It's not about being lazy, it's about the conformity. We all go to the mechanic to fix our cars unless you know how to fix it, obviously. That's just how it works man. I do think that people not giving credit to the devs and all of the people that make this happen is really messed up though.
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Nah..I'm sticking with my lazy comment. people don't bother to learn anything anymore. Doesn't take long to read how to root and flash.
the business isn't about giving credit, it's about charging money for something that's free
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Welcome to reality!
Thing is I guarantee he is making his monies off people. Happens all the time. Business as usual and living the American dream.....even in different countries....
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Android SDK on the sidekick lol it just wasn't what it is today
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Some of you guys must not understand the difference between selling a service and selling a tangible product. You're paying for this guys time and knowledge of rooting android phones. Don't be such a stick in the mud
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Some of you guys must not understand the difference between selling a service and selling a tangible product. You're paying for this guys time and knowledge of rooting android phones. Don't be such a stick in the mud
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Agreed. I don't see the problem with it. Heck if I could make it into a side business I would. As others have said, they aren't selling the work that others have made, they're charging for their time, knowledge, gas (in a lot of cases they will travel to you) and convenience to root/hack/mod a phone that the owner doesn't want to do themselves. Yeah they can read some forums and do it themselves, but if they're willing to pay for it, it means they're either lazy and don't care or aren't technically inclined.
Some phones really aren't as simple as you would think to root and simply install wifi tether, for example. Downloading drivers, reading the root process for that device, downloading the scripts and tools, copying files to and from the phone, rebooting and the wait adds up into a lot of time and sometimes frustration. A lot of people don't want to deal with it, and if I'm going to learn all of that and sacrifice my time for someone I don't know, I want to be compensated.
I worked for Data Doctors (computer repair business) and while our prices (not set by me) were a little expensive, people gladly paid it because they didn't know how nor could they be bothered to fix the system themselves. That's business.
it took my around 5 hours the other day to figure out how to root, s-off and flash a custom rom on the Amaze. If I had already started my new job I would definitiv have paid the $15 to save me 5 hours of time.
Times are hard and knowledge is power.
If this guy knows what he's doing why not let him do it?
I think it's f*ed up that you flagged just because you're an XDA member who "supposedly" knows better.
He's trying to make some money off of his knowledge.
I mean, just because the information is here doesn't mean everyone who reads it understands it or could implement it.
Some people are not technology inclined.
YouTube has videos on how to do almost everything but just because you watch doesn't mean you'll be able to do it.
What was wrong with him trying to make money from the time and effort he invested into understanding the rooting and unlocking process of a phone?
Honestly..flagging him was a d**k move.
Took my girlfriends mytouch4gslide, he screwed up. Download ruu ....
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For me, I want to know how to root and flash my own ROMs. Without knowing how to do things yourself you're stuck with whatever this guy loads on your phone, and isn't that the point of rooting, being able to load custom ROMs.
be proud of your work cause shearing is caring i learned a lot form xda i do get paid to fix my friends phones for them but when i get paid i save it just for XDA DEV who's work i used to do the job it's not stealing it's called Redistributing & dev can always spot there work from a mile away i used to burn movies and sell it on Craigslist i even posted adds on hacking any games on android with gamecih ^_^ wow those were the days i would ask $20 a pop lol 1 day i had over 15 calls lmfao like ice cube said TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY
+ thanks to gay Bush n homo Obama
the economy is Focked
i don't wanna sell drugs / rob people not when i got 2 kids
now i work 13hr shift 6 days a week
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Times are hard and knowledge is power.
If this guy knows what he's doing why not let him do it?
I think it's f*ed up that you flagged just because you're an XDA member who "supposedly" knows better.
He's trying to make some money off of his knowledge.
I mean, just because the information is here doesn't mean everyone who reads it understands it or could implement it.
Some people are not technology inclined.
YouTube has videos on how to do almost everything but just because you watch doesn't mean you'll be able to do it.
What was wrong with him trying to make money from the time and effort he invested into understanding the rooting and unlocking process of a phone?
Honestly..flagging him was a d**k move.
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word fam i feels you on this ho ^_^ http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=848723
No xlue
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i think me, like many others, are checking these forums frequently to see if any updates or news to the roms for HDX, especially since the last waves of rooting happening all the way to newest OTA update, however the heat has seemingly died off with the hopes of updates, and that glimmer of hope with bootloader unlock that we all waiting for. I understand as long as this doesn't happen we are still limited to the Amazon kernel.
im not a developer but a savvy user like many others so im in no position to measure the difficulty of creating updates for the device, however with the floodgate opened before i was really hoping for lots of new roms and updates to existing, coupled with powerful hardware at cheap prices, and what seems to be wide audience, but didnt seem to be the case.
does anyone think there's any hope left for this device? should we just jump on to Tegra K1 bandwagon soon?
Last I saw the had unlocked the boot loader but was working more kinks and gonna charge for it. That was like 3xweeks or more ago. Who knows.
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Last I saw the had unlocked the boot loader but was working more kinks and gonna charge for it. That was like 3xweeks or more ago. Who knows.
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Yeah, that's what I last saw too. I think they're charging because they don't want Amazon to find out or something.
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Yeah, that's what I last saw too. I think they're charging because they don't want Amazon to find out or something.
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Yeah, not only does it delay Amazon's ability to patch the hole, but it also helps the developers of the exploit earn the money they deserve. I'm just currently concerned after that argument in the fire phone thread they may not be releasing the exploit due to legal reasons, which is bothersome.
I don't know but it really sucks and I also know this thread is not development related. As far as being in the development section I mean.
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Yeah, that's what I last saw too. I think they're charging because they don't want Amazon to find out or something.
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im sorry but thats a sorry excuse. theyre gonna charge $25 so that a multi billion dollar company cant find out? if it slows them down itll slow them down for a couple of hours and thats it.
lets be realist... theyre charging so that they can profit. theres nothing wrong with that and i dont have a problem with it but its a lil insulting if they expect us to believe that
I check every couple of weeks or so, but honestly just running the xpose framework module makes me happy. The only thing I was missing was the play store, and it allows me to have that. The Fire user interface has actually grown on me.
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Yeah, not only does it delay Amazon's ability to patch the hole, but it also helps the developers of the exploit earn the money they deserve. I'm just currently concerned after that argument in the fire phone thread they may not be releasing the exploit due to legal reasons, which is bothersome.
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The argument in that thread about whether bootloader unlocking is legal in the US or not is not even touching on the real issue. First, bootloader unlocking IS legal. Second, what is not legal though is hacking a device put out by a company and then charging other people and making money off of your exploit. And even if it were legal, it is against XDA TOS for members to charge for things like ROMs, kernel, bootloader unlock, etc. We can donate sure, but specifically charging people for access is a no-no.
Even still, Id pay for it. I really want to see some real development going on for this tablet. The Thor and Appolo gapps ROMs are great, but it would be nice to have a true AOSP build working.
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The argument in that thread about whether bootloader unlocking is legal in the US or not is not even touching on the real issue. First, bootloader unlocking IS legal. Second, what is not legal though is hacking a device put out by a company and then charging other people and making money off of your exploit. And even if it were legal, it is against XDA TOS for members to charge for things like ROMs, kernel, bootloader unlock, etc. We can donate sure, but specifically charging people for access is a no-no.
Even still, Id pay for it. I really want to see some real development going on for this tablet. The Thor and Appolo gapps ROMs are great, but it would be nice to have a true AOSP build working.
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Are you kidding? Lol working fastboot and files would make alot of ppl happy right now.
I check everyday. Lol
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I check everyday. Lol
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My HDX is still in the mail and I check here everyday. I hope the unlock sees the light of day before the HDX becomes obsolete eventually.
i dont have high hopes at this rate, this device target audience is opposite of most android users in the sense they're not the type to tinker with the software
its not like a Nexus device where most of the users going for it are expected with rooting and roms, i cant blame them, even the rooting process and safestraping rom slots is not common for android devices
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I check everyday. Lol
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Same here
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I know
holeshot77 said:
I check everyday. Lol
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This this device has turned me into a troll something horrible(@least three times a day). But at least I try to stay helpful when I'm here .sometimes the attitude pops out from the,dangled just before me rage. .. Got to love to hate this sh*t .. Been circling this carcass of a device for a months like a freaking vulture..waiting.. waiting waiting ....out of ten tablets nhouse i maintain 4 are hdx ...and currently no bricks lol
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i dont have high hopes at this rate, this device target audience is opposite of most android users in the sense they're not the type to tinker with the software
its not like a Nexus device where most of the users going for it are expected with rooting and roms, i cant blame them, even the rooting process and safestraping rom slots is not common for android devices
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I agree totally ,, and it also seems like this device is a favorite for parents to buy kids as convenient media babysitters and then the children think they need to come here and start modifying Bricking and crying ... It has been a bitter roller coaster ride I just want my unlock and fastboot stuff so I can unlock, archive the rest,and be on the next device. Uhg and I am sorry but this forum has given me fantasies such as hoping the next update will come with a choke Bart emoji on my keyboard;-p lmao only because of the face palming is starting to leave a mark ; (
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Are you kidding? Lol working fastboot and files would make alot of ppl happy right now.
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Someone was able to get fastboot working on Linux if your interested in taking a look at it in this thread here.
Apparently
shimp208 said:
Someone was able to get fastboot working on Linux if your interested in taking a look at it in this thread here.
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Your idea of working in my idea of working or two different things nobody has been able repair a brick device via our fastboot , I mean flash any files system files kernels or what ever as far as I know nothing has worked for this is to what I am referring .
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Your idea of working in my idea of working or two different things nobody has been able repair a brick device via our fastboot , I mean flash any files system files kernels or what ever as far as I know nothing has worked for this is to what I am referring .
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fyi, once unlocked, the normal fastboot behavior works.
uhg
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fyi, once unlocked, the normal fastboot behavior works.
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HASHCODE
You sir, are a meanie and a tease. LMAO, no but really that is the only reason I've been trolling these threads since Christmas.. Since then I have bought two more... so how about some hot salt in the wound then tell us about your KitKat on your HDX buahahahah
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fyi, once unlocked, the normal fastboot behavior works.
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Hi hashcode. Any info you can feed us would be appreciAted. I understand things are hush hush for numerous reasons but people here are starting to lose interest in our device and the longer we wait for a unlock the more talent we lose and, undoubtedly, potential donaters.
Your teasing and previous posts show u have some inside knowledge of the unlock. Any info would be great but specificAlly what is the snag the devs have run into? And I know it's rude to ask but how much longer are we lookin at for release?
I know u dint owe us anything but we thank u for ur support.
I'd really like to participate in today's Fire Sale (pun intended), but I'm not keen on getting a device that can't be unlocked. Decisions, decisions...